Do european older trans women exist who have been transitioning (including girlmoding) for a decade or longer? All the ones similar to me I meet are from the US and it feels a bit lonely always being the only european
>>45175661euro girls get gatekept and hondosed there are none that have been transitioning for that long
God wants you to be straight, nona
>>45175687You know diy exists right>>45175701I guess so, but I would also like some irl friends who are similar to me. Does god also want me to be friendless?
>>45175703Straight trannies in Europe are a dime a dozen. You can become friends with them. Do you live in Eastern Europe?
>>45175705I only ever met one straight trans girl and she was pretty crazy and on drugs all the time. I live in central europe, but in a small-ish city. I've been thinking about moving to a big city though.
>>45175722>central EuropeCzech nona, that doesnt exist.
>>45175661what do you consider older, does 30 count? lol but yeah we exist, i've met a couple of others too, but i think us europeans are just more extremely offline in general. my irl trans friends aren't on here or on discord or anything like that, i just met them through mutual friends.>>45175728you people are impossible to please lol the last time i said i lived in eastern europe and then after being asked the country said czech republic i was told "noooo you're not eastern european!!!" but then if you say central europe it's "haha you silly slav there's no such thing as central europe!!!". from now on i'm just going to say western europe because it's basically true anyway.
I've been transitioning that long but don't girlmode because I have a male skull
>>45175792>actually a CzechGot your ass lol
>>45175792Yeah 30 counts, I'm 30 too. How did you meet your trans friends? All the lgbt groups usually only have boymoders/reppers or people who just started transitioning.I wish more europeans used this board
>>45175808lmao, kinda funny that i'm considered an "older trans woman" now, the milf era really is underway i guess. i've never been to an lgbt group in my life honestly. i made one friend from nearby when she posted on this board previously and then she introduced me to another trans woman who had just moved to my city and then before i knew it i had a little network of other trannies. it's cool, we don't talk every day or anything but once a month or two we'll hang out for a few hours and it's always a lot of fun. it was basically just a series of chance encounters that got me here though, wish i had something more helpful to offer. living in a big city definitely helps a bit as you're more likely to have actual passoid tranners who live and work there and are open to socialising with other trannies. in europe it feels like each region has a couple of cities that are magnets for queer people from the surrounding country/countries so you're more likely to meet other trannies there, plus i know from experience that small cities in central/eastern/whatever europe are pretty asocial places.
>>45175661the average european woman in her 30s views the internet with distrust and probably still uses a fax machine
>>45175873Well, I say "older" because 90% of posters on here seem to be between 16 and 24...I guess I'll just have to keep posting then. And work on moving to a different city. I don't think I'm ever going to be happy here and I only moved here to study anyway.>>45175883>views the internet with distrustThat's a good thing I think. A lot of zoomers just post their full names on the internet and think that's fine
>>4517566132 year old trans woman here from the uk, 16 years hrt, i think i'm a semipassoid but am ugly. i'm ace so i'm not like a weird transbian or anything either>>45175687there are some
>>45175661My ex's aunt was an older trans woman. Post everything I think. t. italian
>>45175915How is it for you in the UK right now? I've thought about moving back but not sure for obvious reasons. The country I currently live in will elect rightoids soon, I'll probably have to move eventually.
>>45176130>The country I currently live in will elect rightoids soonnta but another uktran. you're never gonna believe what's going to happen in the uk soon too.
>>45176138Yeah I thought so. It feels like there's no good place left to move to in Europe
>>45176130I will keep you safe with my chaser muscles.
>>45176130it's okay, i usually pass in face to face interactions and went like a year without being misgendered but someone shouted poofter at me from a 3rd floor window after failing to get my attention when asking me "what's up" several times when i was walking home at night. i'm not even sure they saw my face, maybe they thought my silhouette was clocky. i'm not even sure if it was said at me, but i was the only person on the street so probably. honestly i view failing to pass as my personal failure so i don't blame that person for being a dick at all, this is my fault and means that i must now get more surgery. i was moving to taiwan but now that this happened i'm not sure, i may just stay here and live frugally so i can afford $100k for an ffs revision in like 6 months and then move>>45176138it could be worse and i like that burnham may be taking us back into the single market. but yeah i was planning to leave the uk for good in january, but the incident described above has upended my plans as i'd rather prioritize getting another ffs revision than having my savings get substantially dented by moving countries
>>45176138Or you. Im not picky. I just want a girl to hold at night.
>>45176182im lesbian sorry but if you transition then maybe! <3
>>45176174Thanks, I guess.>>45176181100k seems like a lot just for a revision?Taiwan seems like it would be really difficult to move to. Do you have any connections there or why did you choose Taiwan?
>>45176196Do you have any connections there or why did you choose Taiwan?yeah it's through their gold card thing, you get aprc with fairly minimal residency requirements and i already lived there before with it, it's quite nice. as to why i chose it, well, i wanted to live in east asia as i kinda vibe with how their society is, i like introversion and keeping out of people's business, and living close to japan and being able to travel there lots is kinda fun. i was only gonna stay in the uk for a few months to get my documents updated but this incident genuinely upends most of my plans and now i gotta get my face sliced up again for like the 3rd time. i was going to have a really chill year in 2027 of doing fun things and traveling and i thought i was finally gonna make it as a normal woman. i'm genuinely so upset over this because this proves that it was all just honfidence, as i doubt this incident would have happened if my face actually passed>100k seems like a lot just for a revisionfull ffs revision with top surgeons can be quite pricey so this is rip to my savings. ah well, i should probably be okay regardless and i can still probably move, but it'd have to be delayed by like 6-7 months
>>45176256I think just because you potentially got misgendered once, and aren't even certain they meant you, you shouldn't lose all hope. If you can admit that you pass usually, except for this one case, then I would just assume it is an exception. That could happen to anyone. You kind of sound like someone I knew once. I think you're going to make it, don't give up hope.
Lena
>>45176329If you're being weird, that's not who I was thinking of and also not who I am, sorry
>>45176301>and aren't even certain they meant youthey probably meant me, i mean initially i was looking down at my phone and texting my coworker and i noticed some commotion around me, i didn't pay it much attention but then was curious and turned around and a guy's head was poking out of the 3rd floor window and i think that's when he said something that did kinda sound like "poofter", so it was probably due to the guy being annoyed i didn't pay attention to him initially. but it's not something you'd ever say to a woman so it's basically the equivalent of being called mate or something>it is an exceptioni mean it is an exception but i think if you aspire to be stealth, you really can't have any sorts of exceptions like that ever. i guess the bigger question to ask is why he called me that, i normally dress like a guy anyway but have tranny bangs, i don't think i got read as a tranny by that guy, he probably thought i was a normal man. idk how much of a cope to say that he probably couldn't see my face well from 3rd floor at night, i mean there was street light and stuff>You kind of sound like someone I knew onceprobably, i think if your transition is entirely about assimilation and passing, dooming so much is pretty much an inevitability unless you're like a gigaluckshit. to be honest i'm not even confident that more ffs revisions will get me to where i aspire to be but what else can i even do at this point?
>>45176377I don't know, it sounds like you are stuck in self-doubt. I care about being stealth too. But I am confident enough that even if someone were to sir me from behind, I'd just think they meant someone else, or think they couldn't tell from behind so just defaulted to "sir", because that's what is commonly done in most languages/societies. If you've been transitioning for as long as you have, had FFS, pass 99% of the time, then I think this is really just an issue about confidence. You shouldn't let things like that dictate your life.I could come up with all sorts of explanations why they didn't mean you, or why this doesn't mean you don't pass, but in the end I think nothing will help because you will still doubt yourself.
>>45176430>I could come up with all sorts of explanations why they didn't mean youwhat would those be? like at the moment, my biggest cope is that maybe under street light my face may have looked particularly bad or maybe my silhouette and bulky coat made me look big, but surely we would have still seen my face>even if someone were to sir me from behindthis wasn't from behind, this was from the top for most part but i think he must have seen my face at an angle as well just as i was coming in his field of view
>>45176451Sorry, but like I said, I don't think me engaging with this will help you at all. I hope you are well, and hope you can find a way to live a happy and fulfilling life.
>>45175705i know 5 or 6 straight trannies in europe but we're all in our 20s and most are midshits who started hrt as teenagers
>>45176356idk what u mean, I was giving an example of an old trans woman. Idk why, but I thought you were asking in general.
>>45175661Yes me. I don't know any others, though.
