>>45172437
blast tren and make it brah

>>45172437
if you had either more fat or muscle it would probably hide your female pelvis
so the answer should seem obvious, work out and eat

>>45172446
>>45172459
I'm 164cm btw if it changes anything

>>45172581
i mean it does change a lot but you can't change your height, so there's nothing you can do anyways, so you can as well assume it doesnt matter for the purpose of this thread

>>45172437
big breast implants desu. your torso length reads male

>>45172437
women have thicker thighs and wider hips. workout those areas specifically, work out urass as well. eat more but dont workout ur upper body. and youll get the feminine body u desire. this shit is easy as hell but no one will ever do it.

>>45172588
isn't OP ftm?

>>45172587
Do you think getting leg lengthening surgery is retarded?

>>45172602
honestly i don't, as a troon who would go thru risky surgeries just to look more like a woman
as long as it wouldn't ruin your proportions
but you seem to have a long torso, so it shouldnt be an issue in your case

>>45172588
>>45172594
Not a MtF

>>45172437
You would have to shorten your torso by about 3 in, then reduce your clavital spread

>>45172636
My plan was lupo + hip shaving surgery + leg lengthening. I think that would also make me look objectively better not just as a man because I have shorther legs relative to my torso anyway and being short sucks

>>45172652
maybe try to get some muscle before resorting to surgery?

a nude body shot of a non-passing FtM on this board is like seeing a cryptid

>>45172655
I have a wide frame as you can see so I look heavy easily when I put fat/muscle on, I don't want to end up looking like an ogre honestly, especially as a short it'll draw more attention. I want to look like a normal guy and not some deformed hairy blob of meat. I need more length and less width as you can see

>>45172674
It's not nude retard

>>45172437
>four chan dot org why do I look like shit
>doesn't go to the gym or make any effort to not look like shit
every time

>>45172690
> I want to look like a normal guy
normal guys don't have such thin and petite bodies
your arms for example look clearly female and none of listed surgeries will fix that. please do some upper body workout.
i'm not telling you to go extreme, just get some normal muscle

Mostly what is missing from women that would make them men is dirt.

>>45172717
I mean I'm not petite and I see guys who are thinner than me around. I think my arms are fine my shoulders are blunt but not wide enough so my arms are closer to my torso making them look weaker. Surgery may not change that but it will fix my proportions and help me to get V taper

>>45172437
shoulders too pointy
arms too long
hips too bony

>>45172775
Nigga finish reading the title before posting

>>45172437
Why are you making your shoulders smaller put them down. You are tiny though you need to go high on test and bulk doing heavy shit especially deadlift and shit to thicken your midsection plus rows and pull ups to widen yoru back. Get hairy too unless your one of those weird larping yowie nonces

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>>45172859 >>45172864

>>45172811
What about this

>>45172842
this has to be intentional

>>45172842
I feel like you are pinching your shoulders which comes across female. Plus no definition in your forearm and obviusly the breedable hips but you can grow that section to be more square plus blast back to get a taper

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>>45172881 >>45172900

>>45172859
We look same in this angle I'm just skinnier

>>45172867
no you have extremely defined hips and 0 muscle mass which I know you know but I assume this is some weird detrans/sissy fetish thing

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>>45172867
Show us the back uncovered to get a good idea

>>45172864
>breedable hips
They're narrow I just have prominent iliac crest which is a masculine trait. The problem is despite my torso being bigger than average for females and hips being narrower they're proportionally still look weird and uneven I think that's why I look MtF. Ok I'll grow muscles anything else?

>>45172914
Pretend you are holding something heavy in each hand pull you towards the floor. Also your posture looks bad and you can try rib cage expansion exercises google them. Some HGH or a sarm could help

>>45172914
that's about the definition on the front, a wide iliac crest like you have is extremely female. you just look like an anorexic woman

>>45172927
>your posture looks bad
I'm thinking of doing conor harris exercises to fix that. Rn I'm broke so I can't leanmax exactly but I'm trying to eat more protein

>>45172945
I think you're delusional because I got called mtf when I posted the same pictures some other board (one of them was a terf board)

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>>45173014
What do you mean leanmax nigga you basically had a hormone disorder for life you need mass. You should be benching your bw in 3 months. Sneak some extra test and do GOMAD. You need to build your back out to hide those hips cause if I caught you looking like that in the gym shower you would be squirting like the soap dispensers

>>45173037
terfs are retarded, you look like an anorexic woman

>>45173063
Disgusting. He looks even more like a pooner on the left. I look more masc than this gross basedjak. I forgot to say I live in a third world country so I can't get on T. I meant lowering my body fat I'm only %17 bf rn, but my face looks shittier when I go below that ughh and I can't function basically. I'll try to get some anavar for now