is that an ai sopranoman?

>>45171631
shah of iran

>>45171624
take your HRT, retards

>>45171624
Go get your fuckin' sharps box

>i wanted hrt i compromised i licked female piss laced with birth control from the ladies toilet instead

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>>45172707 >>45175312 >>45178862 >>45179048

Is getting jacked in order to then be able to socially express small amounts of feminine behaviour the best way to rep?
Muscular guys can even get away with crossdressing

>>45172450
If you're a man wearing a dress in public 95% of people will automatically assume you are a tranny. And if it's not clothing but just general mannerisms, you get thrown into the gay man category. There is no life to be had for GNC men, so don't pursue it. All men will think you're gay and should be hated on. Most women will never sexually desire you. Ironically the group of women that accept gnc men as they are as people are autistic lesbians. Just be a regular man. It's hard for many of us but our lives won't improve otherwise. This doesn't mean we have to go die in a trench on the other side of the world, absolutely reject other men's control over you.

>>45171640
Why is he made of plastic?

>>45171624
As a mildly successful lateshit, I used to be one of the myriad of voices telling you all not to rep. However, I understand now that some of you look like Sylvester Stallone and it probably isn’t actually a good idea. However, if I find out that any of you fucks have potential that you’re trying to throw away out of self harm, I will find you and lock you in a basement and force feminize the everloving shit out of you.

>>45173188
>I will find you and lock you in a basement and force feminize the everloving shit out of you.
please do,,,

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>>45171695

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>>45173687

>>45173445

>>45173537
Hi, I'm Anon E. Mouse, CEO of Repping Incorporated. I'm often lurking /repgen/ and other various threads to distract myself from my pathetic Y chromosome.
Don't stab me! Don't inject me with E! Don't do it. Please.

is getting on hrt to become a t4t transbian retarded?

>>45173739
Not really because chances are you'll be into the same interests and not have to watch endless reruns of a 20+ year old shows like you would with a cis woman.

>>45173877
Kidding btw

I'm procrastinating my whole life away

>>45173188
people say i do but i don't

I want to die because I'll never have a cute tranny wife

>>45174476
I want to die because I'll never be a cute tranny wife

>>45174506
I want it so bad

I used to be really jealous of good looking trannies who had gotten lucky, but with the years I stopped caring frankly.
I wish I could be a woman, a real one with everything that it entails, being a troon is pointless even if you look good.

Imagine if you were disabled and had to use a wheelchair and then nobody would know you're 184 cm
>>45174529
Some troons are real women though
>>45171624
Tf? What kind of fucking likeness is that?

>>45174529
I'm honestly more jealous of good looking trannies because I could have potentially been one if I didn't fuck up and rep. It definitely doesn't seem pointless to me.
Obviously I'd rather be a foid if I could choose, but since they're further removed from possibility I'm less envious.

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>>45174620 >>45174625 >>45174748 >>45175869 >>45176117

How do I know if I'm actually a repping tranny and not just some larping mentally ill pervert?
>what's the difference haha
The only thing keeping me from going through with this is the thought that I'll discover I was larping and never recover.

>>45174613
tell me your symptoms

>>45174613
probably not mutually exclusive, the longer I rep the more mentally ill and perverted I seem to become
my whole life is just larping

I'm gonna get so wasted tomorrow, maybe I'll even do it outside of my room since it's socially acceptable for a day

>>45174620
>depersonalise/derealise almost 24/7
>hypervigilant all the time
>goes away when I dress like a woman and wear makeup for some reason
>don't get horny from doing it but don't feel like it's completely innocent either
>thought I was gay, but efforts reveal I don't feel any kinship with the gay community whatsoever
>slightly androgynous, have been mistaken for a woman a couple of times and felt inexplicably happy because of it
>don't feel like I'm meant to be a woman, but never felt at peace being a man.

Maybe this is just the product of being mega molested as a kid and I just forgot about it?

>>45174668
do you wanna be my gf?
I'll force fem you

>>45174529
I would kill to even be the amount of feminine that troons are, let alone be a woman
Though I'm enbyrepper so may not apply to you
>>45174613
It's impossible to tell q.q
>>45174668
I'm so envious that you have malefailed the only time it happened to me was once in high school

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>>45174748
I have no idea how it happened, letalone twice. I'm 6'2 and look 1:1 like picrel. It has to be something about how I carry myself + living in regional Australia where most women look like picrel already.

>>45174778
>look 1:1 like picrel.
You would totally pass if you trooned out... I remain envious

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>>45174840 >>45174854 >>45175089

>>45174793
I'm not sure if I even should troon out. Even if I could pass, I don't know if it's BDD, AGP or what. We should swap bodies.

>>45174805
To be honest I don't think most people that transition ever fully rid themselves of the idea "what if I regret it" but at some point the numbers game just heavily favors your transitioning even in the small sense you regret it (empirically we'd think it's like 2% regret rate? Which is extremely good for a medical treatment)

>>45174840
NTA but even if transitioning has a lower regret rate than medically necessary life saving procedures, which it does, it doesn't guarantee that I specifically won't regret it

>>45174778
>>45174805
be my gf

>>45174852
That's true, but it does indicate the best choice you can make with the current information you have. To be honest I think most reppers would benefit from at least being on HRT, not even necessarily passing.

>>45174854
sorry anon but I've got a boyfriend and I love him too much to get raped and gaped by a chaser instead. Also he would be upset if his handsome twinkhon manmoder boyfriend turned into a sneedhon.

>>45174886
>malefailed
>but on hrt
...

>>45174886
holy larp
get the fuck out of my general you tranny

trannies have the rest of the board to attention whore in, leave this thread for us please

>>45174916
>>45174918
im sorry guys, I didn't know that -hon implied HRT. I'm just trying to fit in i'll lurk more I swear.

>>45174964
be my gf

>>45174964
>>thought I was gay, but efforts reveal I don't feel any kinship with the gay community whatsoever
what the fuck does this mean if you have a BOYFRIEND you retard

Do you think that transitioning is something that can magnify your emotions in the sense that it can make you significantly happier but also significantly more miserable?

would you rather have kids or not have them?

Do you tell/ would you tell the people you date/ romantic partners that you are a repper? how unethical really would it be not to tell a potential hypothetical partner that you browse/ browsed ttt or transgender online communities in the past.

>>45174529
I do think you have to be kind of brave and reckless to transition. I mean, who randomly decides that they are going to join one of the most ostracized bullied and oppressed groups in society?

I wouldnt describe it as envy but i have been unable to stop browsing transtimelines and i do feel like if i dont at one point get ffs i would give up on the notion of living my life to the fullest. So its a calculation. I suppose that if you have low intensity dysphoria or some pseudo dysphoria its better to rep. Like, probably im not trans, just autistic or a sperg. Doing hrt and getting surgeries is like a high risk high reward scheme and maybe its not worth it.

I do have a lot of respect for trans people. I feel like they are people who make a highly impulsive decision that is determined by their emotions more than by a rational conclusion.Sometimes when you take a shot like that it can go really well but it can also ruin your life probably. Im the opposite. I overthink everything.

>>45174976
sorry I didn't type it good. I meant that I am kind of a fag, but I don't get along with the community and 99% of gay guys may as well come from another planet. I get along with the man I'm with because he's also repping and we can commiserate.

>>45175028
be my gf
I'll treat you like a princess

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>>45175141 >>45175282

>>45174778
>I'm 6'2 and look 1:1 like picrel
>Australia

>>45174805
I love this fucking snail

I genuinely may just be neurodivergent. I dont even have a story of gender dysphoria as a child. I just started browsing trans communities at 18 because i thought i was an ally or just more aligned with progressive politics and because they were different. It had been something i hadnt seen before or considered that closely and i have been unable to stop, im 21, i still browse some of them, not all.

I think that if i had been born 30 or 40 years ago, i would not have considered the possibility and had i considered it, i would have been far too old and by then it would have been really clear to me that i was giga fake trans.

Im not really autophilic (im bi but like 70/30 leaning towards liking women), i think that picking a female name would be kind of weird and so would be voice training and idk, i dont really want to identify as a trans person, i think its weird. Navigating life as a trans person must be really weird.

I also think that growing breasts through hrt would probably make me distressed, especially though not uniquely because id just be a guy with boobs. And my skull is probably longer than the male average.

But i also get a sense of frustration about the possibility of not getting ffs or transitioning ever and genuinely if i was secluded from the rest of society i would 100% go through the process of hrt and surgeries and probably not come to regret it since even if it went poorly, i would be invisible.

The idea of having biological kids kind of disgusts me but i dont know if i should try to get over it to be a more normal person or if i should just let that inclination dictate my life.

What is this mental illness called?

Ive also browsed kiwi farms and its a problem. The people there are horrible. If you want some repfuel you should read their comments on trans people.

>>45175086
be my gf

I do wonder if someone from kiwifarms/ other groups who hate trans people browse the board. If thats the case and one of them is seeing this, i hope you die. You are a terrible person.

>>45175135
>>45175239
kiwifarms is just aging reddit onionllennials trying to sate their gooner's remorse by playing internet morality police, very low grade repfuel imo

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>>45175323 >>45175329 >>45175332

>>45175086
How does every OZ repper look the same? Is it something in Victorian tapwater?

>>45175135
I feel all of this. I'm confused and don't know how to navigate these feelings. Fucking a guy didn't feel as gay as introspecting on this, and spilling my spaghetti here only makes me feel even more retarded. I can't articulate it, I can't pathologise it, all I know is that I must keep repping.

>>45175239
Isn't hating trans people the reason /repgen/ exists?

I also feel like if i dont ever have kids and choose not to use that as an opportunity to troon out, i will have wasted my life.

>>45175251
There are some women in the platform. Its not just men. Since ovarit got taken down where else can one go to engage in digital self harm?

>>45175286
spoiler alert, half of them aren't actually women irl
I am very good at clocking other reppers online

>>45172450
they can get away with it purely in the context of a joke
what's the point of crossdressing as someone who could never pass anyway?

>>45175282
be my gf

>>45175282
Do you feel like you have at least made progress in the sense that some things became clearer to you in regards to whether you should transition or not?

it really just feels like either decision is a pyrrhic 'victory'. If you rep, you will be socially integrated, face less/ no discrimination but you will be unhappy with the person you are, whereas if you transition you risk ruining your dating life/ the perception that society at large has of you/ your employment prospects... and you could end up being happier with the person you will be, but that is not really guaranteed. Many tw regret their transition because they dont pass
>Isn't hating trans people the reason why repgen exists

not necessarily. I may not want to identify as or be trans, but i still think that trans people have a right to exist and that they deserve to live long, happy and healthy lives, whereas many political factions actively want them to suffer as much as possible and they want to take away their rights.


sorry, i had to repost it because of a typo.

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>>45175383 >>45175465

>>45175282
NTA, but I'm definitely not a repper by choice
(well technically I am, but it isn't a realistic choice with my unfortunate stats)
I try to be happy for those that can pull it off, spite just makes me feel worse.

I do not enjoy being a man
but oh well, too late

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I rep because time is a flat circle

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>>45175465 >>45175625 >>45175764

>>45175332
occasionally, ive seen timelines of trans women who did seem to have a somewhat larger than the average skull, but they still looked great after ffs. But obviously they took a risk. You cant just go back to having a normal life as a cis male if you ever decide to get something like ffs or even start hrt, but that was just the skull, which is what i focused on because my height is average (im like 5'9 or 5'10).

https://www.reddit.com/r/transtimelines/comments/1xjpbrl/some_random_pre_everything_pics_vs_2_years_hrt/

>>45175365
>>45175370
same

>>45175365
Its not too late. Skull size and height in that order are the most impactful things imo. Some people have transitioned being middle aged or even as elders and they look great because their skull size is within the male or female average and they took care of their skin. I wish there were some guidelines where some surgeons told you: ''beyond these measurements you are never going to make it and you should just rep and you shouldnt even consider getting ffs ''but that obviously would sink their profits and they would never do it.

Trans culture being as hugboxxy as it is, would never give you a useful answer, and neither would a medical professional, because they also engage in toxic positivity.

I don't think it's even a real feeling or something I believe in, I'm just a man in every way

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>>45175329
The longer I go on, the more I learn and the more I doubt myself. Repping is agony. It's such a unique form of spiritual torment. Every decision is a fight with your back to the river with no good way out.

>>45175332
We're here because we're trying to navigate our feelings the best we can, and be the best people we can be. I pray we can all have the maturity to continue emotionally supporting each other no matter what choice we make. reppers strong together.

>>45175383
FFS is scary, but at least it's cosmetic (ignoring the nerve damage). HRT is what really scares me. I hate not truly knowing what effect it may or may not have on my body or personality.

>>45175432
Toxic positivity and hugboxxing creating doubt has been the biggest obstacle to me being able to make a concrete decision. I hate not knowing what I'm signing up for. Is that just me?

HRT doesn't affect your personality, it's a myth. Unstable levels are responsible for all moodiness. "I feel bitchy sometimes and then I feel good" said nobody on undecylate ever.

I wouldnt even ask a surgeon about skull measurements because they would probably realize im mentally ill and that is also a point of no return kind of. The same is true for hrt appointments/ gd therapy sessions where if you dont disclose that to a potential partner, even if you continue to rep, that would be really unethical i think.

Thankfully ive never made the mistake of telling any therapist that sometimes i wish i was a woman. I honestly dont even deserve to be one. Ive harbored some mysoginistic feelings and made some mysoginistic comments in the past. Its something that i need to work on, regardless of what i do with my life but i did make the mistake of telling a therapist i was bisexual.

>>45175465
>FFS is scary, but at least it's cosmetic (ignoring the nerve damage). HRT is what really scares me. I hate not truly knowing what effect it may or may not have on my body or personality.

What would you not know? the effects of hrt would be breast growth, fat redistribution, your skin texture changes. Its the same for everyone, some trans women get cone shaped breasts.

>>45175490
Conetits are from improperly administering HRT btw, if you ensure your T is always adequately suppressed they don't happen.

>>45175475
>>45175490
The hormones might not affect my personality on its own, but who's to say a few years down the line that the consequences of flabby conetits, sterility or mediocre gains won't fuck with my head? What if I turn into something disgusting and can't take it back? What if I'm signing myself up for an unseen risk of cancer or stroke? What if I simply lose my partner's affection because I can't get it up anymore?

Maybe I'm just being irrational. But I can blame a plastic surgeon for fucking up. How can I blame a chemical?

>>45175502
>flabby conetits
See >>45175501
>sterility
Reversible if needed unless you've had orchi. You can also freeze sperm. I don't see why it would mess with your head if you've already thought about it.
>mediocre gains
Yeah, this is possible. But detransitioning is basically just getting keyhole/double masectomy. Obviously don't get orchi/srs if you're not dead set on it being permanent.
>What if I simply lose my partner's affection because I can't get it up anymore?
No offense but should they really be your partner if they aren't going to work with you being trans?

Yes, you have correctly identified that your self-perception influences your self. This is true of anything you do. I don't see why HRT specifically would be any different.

>>45175502
Sure well obviously the thing is that we are talking about stuff that is not normal. SRS for instance is also a thing where many trans women end up having complications years down the line, and its because surgically altering your genitalia is not a normal thing to do. Neither is the idea of a guy growing breasts.

In the past i had thought a lot about what if i actually transitioned at one point in my life, and then it hit me that its not just society at large that I would have to deal with but also my parents, my extended family etc. I think it would be really embarassing and definitely family relationship ruining to troon out. I seriously dont know how people do it.

Please give me the courage to kill myself

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>>45175524
Can't argue with that, you seem pretty authoritative. This might just be the post that convinces me to do it.

>No offense but should they really be your partner if they aren't going to work with you being trans?

He would, but it would put a strain on the relationship. I don't own him. Seeing me change into something unrecognisable would break his heart and upsetting him would break my heart. Even if he supported me every step of the way, it would kill the spark.


>>45175530
Funny, that. Most of my extended family is dead, I have the best father a repper son could ask for and a narcy bitch of a mother. The worst thing that could happen is that I get closer to my dad and never have to deal with my mother again. And here I am wondering - How anybody could make the gamble on drugs and surgery?

>>45175605
Tell me why you want to kill yourself first, anon.

>>45175383
Most of those angles are way more forced than in the pre-transition ones. I feel like it looks like drag in person.

>>45175621
Also if you take bioidentical estrogen (which is the majority of modern HRT) your risks for everything are practically the same as a cis woman.
>it would kill the spark
What makes you think this? If anything I would say that it ought to make a greater spark because you'd be more embodied in yourself?
>change into something unrecognisable
This contradicts "he would work with me". Pick one. At the end of the day, do understand that he is just a partner, and you can very well have other partners later if that happens. He is not your life. You are your life. We often forget to be selfish. And that aside your situation with your parents seems good at best, neutral at worst.

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>>45175648
That's true. I need more time to think about it, maybe discuss it with him. The repping shall continue until clarity improves.

>>45175621
Nothing will ever get better and I am not going to be doing anything about it
It's extremely unlikely that I will make new friends in the future

>>45175677
What isn't going to get better, anon? Career? Social life? The agony of repping? We might not be friends, but you can at least emotionally depend on your fellow reppers.

>>45175718
Even if I transitioned I would still be socially invisible, with no friends, at best acquaintances
I lack the ability to reach out to people and talk to them normally
It isn't ever going to get better because I'm not ever going to work on improving that or practicing, because there's no point

>>45175732
Hell is other people, anon. Surely there's more to life than the affirmation of strangers.

>>45175742
It's not about the affirmation of strangers. I couldn't care less. It's about not having the affirmation of anyone close.
There is nothing more to life than those close to you.

>>45175135
Our situations are a bit different I guess because I do remember having pretty prevalent GD as a child that kind of dissipated for a while, but I feel similar in a lot of ways to you. I think I would probably be more firmly trans if I had any chance of passing but my material situation has kind of made me want to actually transition less (even if I would in a perfect world). If I was a foot shorter I'd DIY tomorrow, but alas.

>>45175383
If you're less than 6' you can probably pass eventually

>>45175465
> not truly knowing what effect it may or may not have on my body or personality
I really want the mental changes of estrogen. I hate how masculine my mind is and unable to feel emotions. I hate that I can barely cry. Might hop on it with SERMs so I can enbyrep.

>>45175502
> sterility
Maybe it's because I no longer see a future for myself really but I don't care about this much. Honestly I may never have kids because GD is probably inheritable. Also it would involve sex as a man which I'm a bit disgusted by. idk.

>>45175530
> would have to deal with but also my parents, my extended family etc
I have little sympathy for bigots but I understand people are propagandized and misled

There's my text wall I hope everyone loves it

>>45175764
>If I was a foot shorter I'd DIY tomorrow
It's about proportions. If you can make your hips wider and your boobs bigger then being tall gets overlooked. If anything being tall it's a little easier to work with your ribcage.
>mental changes of estrogen.
I'm sorry but there aren't any. It's basically all socialized. At best the only thing that will happen is you get mildly less horny.
>Might hop on it with SERMs so I can enbyrep.
This is not as easy as it sounds. It's also expensive and not known to be safe long-term. You can't just take estradiol with SERMs, you'll end up growing breasts anyways. If you don't know what you're doing, don't. I don't mean to gatekeep but it's a low bar of competence.

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>>45175747
We believe in you. And I pray for the health and good fortune of all the repper scum in this thread, even if our existence spites god.

>>45175764
I don't want to procreate right now, or even for the foreseeable future. But I can't be certain that in a decade I won't suddenly have an awakening and want a family. Doubt, that is what keeps us repping.

>>45175790
Thank you. I am sorry to have talked you into a corner where you have little more to offer beyond condolences.
Am I now justified in asking for the courage to kill myself?

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>>45175804
im sorry anon, but your life is sacred.

>>45175818
Why? I am suffering. It is only going to get worse as my youth wanes and even my weak acquaintances drift away.

>>45173158
dreamworks filter
https://imagetocartoon.com/#upload

>>45175829
Your time has not come yet, anon. You need to get a credit card and go on an exorbitant shopping spree first.

>>45171624
how do I know if I have genuine gender dysphoria coming from the inside or if I'm just some impressionable mentally deranged retard
>hard mode: without seeing a therapist

>>45175846
Kek that made me laugh

>>45175860
when you figure it out, tell me too please >>45174613

>>45175860
>>45175869
You don't. >>45174840

>>45175778
> It's about proportions. If you can make your hips wider and your boobs bigger then being tall gets overlooked.
Yeah maybe if it was at ALL possible for me to be seen as a tall woman, but I'm literally 6'5" pushing 6'6", I almost never encounter someone taller then me. Maybe you're right though, sometimes I convince myself I can do it and others I can't bear to think of standing out even more then I already do.

> It's also expensive and not known to be safe long-term
err well fuck then :(
was kind of using that as my repfuel

> I'm sorry but there aren't any
I've heard plenty of anecdotes otherwise so I'll choose to believe them. Maybe they are placebo but wtvr.

I think in general my main inhibitor is being seen as trans, I just really don't want to be. I feel like it will fuck up any hope I have at an impactful career because now "trans" is in front of everything you are, "trans woman," "trans politician," "trans artist," "trans developer." I am very interested in going into political commentary and politics in general and am taking steps to educate myself appropriately and I feel like being seen as trans would make people take any beliefs I have so unseriously. Maybe I have delusions of grandeur or something.

>>45175885
>I'm literally 6'5" pushing 6'6"
Yeah you'll have to definitely consider surgery for your proportions, it's not unlikely that HRT alone will be insufficient. But keep in mind that normies basically do snap-judgment of whether you pass. If you look like you pass the height can very well be waived.
>I've heard plenty of anecdotes otherwise
For some reason none of these people have the theory of mind to consider that their changes in behavior are simply from expressing themselves as transgender. It's likely, even if you're a hardcore transphobe, that you think a trans woman is more "allowed" to cry than a cis man? And when you take HRT you are in a sense bringing yourself closer to that and thus allowing yourself to embody that feminine behavior more. Placebo is one aspect but also remember that you view yourself through a social lens.
>because now "trans" is in front of everything you are
Not quite. Trans woman sure. The rest I don't understand. Would you say that someone born black would have to put "black" in front of all of their hobbies and professions? Black politician, black artist, etc.? It seems a bit absurd. Of course it doesn't help that you want to go into politics but any sort of marginalization will give you the same treatment. I know, it isn't fun. Welcome to the club.

>>45175913
> If you look like you pass the height can very well be waived.
How can I look like I pass with my height. Do I have to meet everyone sitting down? Maybe I will amputeemaxx (/j)

> also remember that you view yourself through a social lens
Part of the placebo I feel. I don't know what my crying problem is, up until a few months ago I was very sensitive. I think I've just become so mentally jaded and shut down after being depressed/dysphoric/suffering from executive dysfunction and adhd for years now.

> Would you say that someone born black would have to put "black" in front of all of their hobbies and professions
So, I more-so mean that is how people will see you. Not that that is how YOU have to describe yourself. Also, this happens to black people too. Anyone who is not cis-white is impacted by this phenomenon.

>>45175998
I mean for one, tall cis woman of that height are proportionally more similar to the men, and so you'd have an easier time passing. This is kind of what I was alluding to earlier >>45175778
>Anyone who is not cis-white
Yes. So? Such is life in society. You get judged for a lot of things you didn't choose.

>>45175880
then what am I supposed to do with these thoughts and feelings if I can't even properly identify them

>>45176035
Make the best choice you can now with the information you have available. Look in your heart, you know what will give you less suffering and dread.

>>45176032
>>45175913

> I know, it isn't fun. Welcome to the club.
> Yes. So? Such is life in society.
Yeah, it's selfishly hard to give up my privilege I have as a tall white straight guy I guess. I mean shit, I'm not even out as probably gay and that's one of the more accepted things you can be nowadays.

Sorry for seeming like I'm shutting down your advice. I appreciate it. I'm just so unsure about so many things I guess I'm just trying to play defense for my repression. I don't feel like I have the worst face ever for passing, I've been told I "have potential" by some people who tried to (very annoyingly) egg-crack me not knowing I'm a repper lol. A bit of an uggo nose but not a super masculine roman one or anything.

i'm 5'6 and my face is decent but i have linebacker shoulders
I should kill myself

>>45176070
>my privilege I have as a tall white straight guy
It's genuinely just tiring at this point. Please complain about something real instead of whispering from your ivory tower.
I'm sorry nona I just find it hard to sympathize with this sort of thing because it just absolutely crumbles unless you hate anyone and anything that isn't identical to yourself.

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>>45176071
> i'm 5'6
You're good, people can overlook the shoulders if you're short. You're very lucky you weren't morphed into a 6'+ giga

Face is a good bonus too

>>45176083
Fair, sorry, I'm just repcoping and have to justify it somehow. Thanks again for the advice and assurances

>>45174613
>>45175860
you can only tell over time since dysphoria is a meta condition most people troon in 30s and 40s

>>45176071
Lower body 5x a week and pray for god-tier fat redistribution + pio
Do keep in mind that you can lose a bit of apparent shoulder width as the tendons, muscles and surrounding soft tissue atrophy over a long time. This applies especially if you ever did anything with your upper body in the past. There are more androgen receptors in that area of the body so even slightly stimulating the area results in significant growth; this won't be the case once you're on HRT.

>>45176044
>>45176117
guess I'll keep doing nothing and hope I don't crash out in my 30's and 40's
or I'll see a therapist idk

>>45176209
it's a feature not a bug
some people can even ignore a crash
another indicator is that you keep raising the stakes on femininity even while knowing very little about tranny shit or dysphoria as though you keep trying to transition instinctively until something big time discourages you

its 6am should I stay up and get breakfast in an hour or go to sleep? decisions

>>45176084
i just wish i knew what hrt was when i was 14 and started getting these feelings and didn't rep for another decade
>>45176125
I always assumed I was too old for significant body changes, is that not the case?

>>45176252
same and I'd like to know too

>>45176384
> i just wish i knew what hrt was when i was 14 and started getting these feelings and didn't rep for another decade
I learned what HRT was when I was about that age, but I was so deep in repping and had internalized transphobia from my parent's indoctrination and shutdown of my expressions of GD as a kid that I would vehemently deny that HRT even worked and refused to further research it. So I might be in an even more regrettable situation than you, if it helps you any lol

>>45176384
yeah i knew what hrt was at 14, told myself i didnt really need that and somehow i could do something else, puberty raped me, repped until 25...

Reppers over 30 unite!

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CP Edgerunners 2 was kino

>>45176384
Well it's not going to change your bones. Soft tissue absolutely will change with enough time. Fat distribution and boobs and hips of course. I wouldn't rule out losing a bit of shoulder width from soft tissue changes as I said.

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>>45176459 >>45176477 >>45177094

>>45176424
37 here and I still want to be an anime girl it doesn't get easier

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>>45176431
Capri is my wife

>>45176438
you know what to do, become an uncle making female protagonist hentai games

>>45176438
I do too but it's a quieter desire and doesn't interfere with my life as much.

>>45176477
Yeah it's more like a quiet despair in the background of my life.

>>45176487
Life really drains you doesn't it. It used to be so hot to fap to AGP stuff now it's just boring. I don't want to be a girl as much. I don't want to do anything as much.

It's just blah. Life is dull.

>>45176401
god i'm sorry, i had a similar childhood and it sucks so much
>>45176419
literally me, I thought i'd just figure out some way to be feminine as time went on and nothing happened and i just got older and more masculine
>>45176436
i hope that could be the case for me, I might be huffing copium though

>>45176419
also I forgot to ask how it's going since you're no longer repping?

I'm getting closer to being a woman in my dreams. It's getting there.

>>45176586
The only time I can reliably get lost in my fantasies is that time after you wake up in the morning and are still half asleep. Sometimes I stay in bed all day just dozing in and out of sleep so I can spend as much time in that state as I can.

I threw out all my girl clothes but now I want them back but Im too poor to buy new stuff. :[

>>45176767
I'll buy you some

>>45176767
i want more expensive girl clothes

>>45176819
hmm, tempting I have to say.

>>45176960
I would be happy with just some cheap stuff. You put it on and meditate or relax letting you "be yourself" for a little bit before going back to normal clothes. (And for jerking off, naturally)

>>45177012
yeah but i do that on my own the key is to act like a spoiled rotten whore so once a man has spent enough on your he'll feel like he owns you and will fuck you like that too it's like a mini marriage

>>45177061
That's kind of hot. But I don't think it would fit my personality. I'm a total hikikomori.

>>45176438
I'm only four years younger. I don't think I will ever transition. It doesn't do what I want it to do: it doesn't turn me into a woman because I never was one, and I'm not one.
I'm a man in a male body, my gender is congruent, I have no dysphoria. I am a cis man with a delusional obsession.

>>45176530
its going better than it was at 25 thats for sure however nothing much has really changed and im probably never gonna be the person i could have been, but i dont wanna rope as much anymore, thats probably because i have some actual relationships more than the hrt though.

still the only valid repper

>>45176431
I wish CP in cyberpunk stood for- well, I think I better not finish that thought.

The writing is on the wall: I'm a moral failure, not because I've done something wrong, but because I've done nothing right.

>>45177908
I'm a moral failure on both accounts. I have done wrong, and have not done anything right.

I need to be fucked hard to get all of the dysphoria out of me.

>>45177076
all you need is low self esteem

>>45178322
I'm way too shy to go out and try to find sex. It feels alien to me.

>>45178336
same i'm just goofing lol

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>>45178808

I realized I was just wanting to troon out because of autism and it wouldn't have changed anything in my life
Repping probably saved me from killing myself, at least for now

aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh change the theme i do not like a festive vibe

>>45178458
oh you

What's the point of living if I can just not live?

>>45177927
Now that I'm remembering, I used to be a big jerk at times.

>one online acquaintance hasn't emailed me back about a topic I really wanted to talk about

me sad. me lonely repor

>>45178568
Yeah because people with autism struggle much more with fitting into society and it turns out that society really cares about gender and how well people conform to it.

>>45172450
A little yeah. I've been jacked on a couple occasions and people really do let you do whatever. Kilts, earrings, long hair, open shirts, floral prints. People are genuinely less aggro about you expressing some feminine beauty as long as your also expressing some masculine beauty at the same time. It's actually been a functional cope for me.

>>45172450
>>45178862
gross
first thing i want to be is thin and androgynous like a ballerina lol

crazy how nobody posts stories of their dad or relative trooning lol

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>>45179096
I've got one for you. My parents used to go to these inner city dress-up parties/drug ragers when I was a kid. Apparently my dad was getting feminised by my mother and pressured into doing drag. Apparently the final straw for him stopping was seeing himself malefail in a bathroom mirror.

holy shit, wait a minute... he always used to talk about how he appreciated androgyny and is the only one in the family that doesn't care that I'm a faggot. Is my dad a fucking repper as well?

i've kissed a girl
ama

>>45179190
proud of you anon.

>>45179190
Are you going to kill yourself, or may I?

>>45179203
for a few hours btw
>>45179270
nah, i'm good

she knows btw :|

Happy Halloween reppers

sometimes i want boobs but usually i don't
what do

>>45179661
i too have finally settled on wanting boobs but then i notice my shoulders and ribs and wonder how bad it'll look

if I didn't have executive dysfunction life would be sweet.

>>45179685
i don't want boobs
but i want to be seen as a woman
but that means having boobs which theoretically is okay
but i would become super dysphoric if i had boobs
fuck fuck fuck
clearly i'm just a porn addict and not trans? or something
non-negotiably i want every other part of being a woman (well i wouldn't mind keeping my dick)

>>45179715
but even sometimes i don't want a dick

>>45171624
If I'm 25 and a kissless autistic virgin, should I really be holding out for the vaguest possibility of being a husband and father or just yolo it on HRT? I'm not interested in socially transitioning, though, and I don't want to do it if my face gets unambiguously feminine. Seriously what do? Put yourselves in my crusty cis male agp shoes.

>>45179749
>not interested in socially transitioning
Just be a sissy

>>45179767
I like the thought of having the fat redistribution too much.

Wish i was dead

>>45179695
I was going to learn how to draw today, I decided on it. But the ED said no and I had to do something in the morning that whatever daily energy I had out of me.

>>45179323
Ain't no way you told a girl who you kissed for the first time that you're a repper. I'm not trying to judge, but this seems like insanity to me.

>>45179749
if you aren't young and already look like a fem boy you will not look feminine lmao!
hrt isn't magic. what it most likely will do is give you some boobs.
there is no requirement of social transition.
>>45180269
you will be soon enough.

>>45179858
Total femboy death

>>45179695
doubt it, would make things easier though.
i can hardly tie my shoes nowadays. fml.

>>45180358
>you will not look feminine lmao!
What about just looking outright odd in the face? Maybe this is a situation of wanting to have my cake and eat it too, admittedly.

>>45180368
You don't mean that, anon...

>>45180344
indeed i did. she hit on me first obv, i'm hella avoidant. i've told her on the second day of texting, we both had a meltdown and yet we talked the all night, she asked me many questions and confessed that she still wants to be close with me (i'm actually awesome beside trannism), she asked for sexting, so i wrote her some, idk if she came (i didn't touch myself). so we didn't sleep all night and after work she came to my apartment and we cuddled and kissed for a few hours all like we agreed before.

i'm not proud, i'm mentally ill and i just had very bad emotional swings and she triggered something in me because she flirted with me a lot.

idk, i feel really better, it was very good, i liked every second of it

and yea, that's insane

>>45180709
kys

>>45180721
why?

>>45180745
>poor me i get to make out with women
Fuck you

>>45180773
she's bi but she doesn't wanna date me tho :/ she doesn't like trannies and i'm just a man in her eyes. idk i think we will do it again but wont have sex bc i don't wanna use my genitals

>>45180358
oh hey durian I thought you were dead
what are you up to?

>>45180709
Getting bitches and still having AGP fantasies. I don't get it.

>>45180807
kys

>>45180709
nta, kys why are normal people posting here
>i'm actually awesome beside trannism
narcs even

>>45180538
I do mean it. There genuinely couldn't be anything worse, along with their smug hate of trannies.
If they weren't literal demons full of snide and pettiness I wouldn't hate them but alas.

>>45180830
actually she got me, i did nothing
>>45180895
idk wdym many people are good and well adjusted. i'm like below mid and women are still somehow interested in me.

i can't get any man tho

>>45180941
>actually i get bitches without even trying
This just makes it even harder to comprehend.

>>45180941
kys

Reppers are spiritually NEET . We are meant to not work and to collect bux and watch anime.

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH IVE NEVER HAD A JOB IM A HIKIKOMORI MY LIFE IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN I WILL NEVER EXPERIENCE FRIENDSHIP OR LOVE OR INDEPENDANCE WHAT AM I DOING

and then i repeat the same day again

game modding community i used to be in 10 years ago when i was 14 y/o is full of troons now, literally brimming with them, when you open a mod page there is a more than 50% chance that it is a troon

>>45181214
Which one? I assume it applies to most anyways...

i wish i was into something niche and cool like game modding, but whenever i try and get into a niche thing i start feeling this is a strange waste of time, even though i spend 90% of my time playing video games or doomscrolling.

I think me being so friendless and isolated is actually the reason I can rep without consequence. I probably would be feeling envious of foids going to fun halloween parties with friends but I haven't gone out and done something fun in prolly 10 years, therefore there's no way to externally interface with gendered social activities. Brain in a jar theory.

>>45181316
yeah life is much easier not interacting with women ever

>>45175305
I rolled my eyes into my skull when I saw one claim to be a "Japanese Lesbian" years back when I lurked there. Totally not a weeb yurimaxxed repper larper. No sir.

>>45179173
> Is my dad a fucking repper as well?
I've heard a LOT of stories of people's dads also potentially being reppers. GD is probably inheritable somehow.

>>45181167
>IVE NEVER HAD A JOB IM A HIKIKOMORI MY LIFE IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN I WILL NEVER EXPERIENCE FRIENDSHIP OR LOVE OR INDEPENDANCE WHAT AM I DOING

never cared cuz im schizoid. Not being independent kinda does suck tho

Is anyone else getting thoughts that maybe they don't deserve happiness?

>>45182066
yes obviously some people are meant to be miserable.
that is why i was born male and my family sucks.
it will never be fixed and it was pre-destined

>>45181167
real

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>>45181007
We are honestly owed reparations in all of this demiurgic bullshit we find ourselves in

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>>45182731 >>45182782 >>45182795

hi im back did anyone miss me?

>>45182709
You should make posts/comments on reddit and see how long your account lasts

>>45182731
reddit doesnt like me :c

>>45182709
>>45182738
are you on hrt?

>>45182782
no

>>45182709
>last post before that one was a reply to me
welcome back anon

>>45182795
hi im sorry for being a bad person

i told my mom i need money to buy diy hrt, we got in a argument and now im sad

i'm scared shitless to do the same so i won't

i've been thinking about asking my brother because i know he'd be accepting but i'm not out to anybody irl and i feel awful having to ask for money

>>45179336
Happy Halloween. Did you do anything festive?
I painted my fingernails black. Figured it's the day I could get away with it. Still felt awkward as fuck when I went to get dinner, even though no one said anything.
I'm too old to feel this way and to hate feeling this way...

>>45183036
in my country we do not celebrate halloween

>>45183046
It's my favorite holiday because I like the spooky vibe, but broadly speaking you're not missing much.
Also, >>45182738
If reddit did like you, that'd probably be a bad sign.

>>45183065
>If reddit did like you, that'd probably be a bad sign
i discovered the beautiful land of 4tran because of reddit so im forever thankful to the great reddit moderators

Any minor bright sides to life we've found as reppers? I've found that more outright wanting to be a woman has helped me accept and even feel grateful of being short as a man.

>>45183098
>Any minor bright sides to life we've found as reppers?
no

I am so close to losing it I cant be a man forever I dont want it im so close to crashing out again and quitting my less than minimum wage job why am I even alive anymore

>>45183098
I know that I will never be a conservative, misogynist, masculine rapebeast because I at least have disdain for my masculinity.

>>45183217
>misogynist, masculine rapebeast
yeah thats me

girl in the hallway opened her door and I was walking by. i felt like i was being looked at like a monster. just one more thing in my retarded moid ropefuel life! oh well :(

>>45183228
> yeah thats me
You literally don't have to be a rapist or a misogynist lol, they aren't inherent things. Just don't be or something

>>45183238
i will never rape but being mean to afabs makes me feel good

>>45183243
Misogyny contributes to transmisogyny, and transmisogyny contributes to our cissexual-heteronormative society's chagrin at the existence of trans people, which contributes to us repping and suffering. You only hurt yourself.

>>45183234
That's probably in your head anon. Most people are too wrapped up in themselves to care about strangers.
But, yeah, I know what you mean. If I was there, everyone'd be staring at me.

>>45183268
its ok im not a tranny, i am a disgusting evil amab

i think im having a panic attack?

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>>45183268

somebody here needs to forcefem me so i don't kms myself

>>45183277
> i am a disgusting evil amab
This is the transmisogynistic terf rhetoric that we internalize and must defeat. I have felt this way before, but we cannot help the soul that has been put into our body until we recognize we are more then our body. Transsexuals have more similar brains to their opposite agab sex, despite the chromosomes and primary sex characteristics being aligned with a cissexual person's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QScpDGqwsQ

>>45183283
I can only offer my condolences, sorry :(

>>45183287
> sounds like some fucking commie gobbledygook
giga

>>45183364
same i need someone to save me from my misery

>>45183377
>Transsexuals have more similar brains to their opposite agab sex
idk i just wish i had the body of a woman, but instead i have the body of a disgusting evil monster

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>>45183364
> kill myself myself

>>45183394
> i just wish i had the body of a woman
Exactly. GD is a condition that stems from that LITERAL incongruence. Your desire for a female body is valid (not in a heccin valid way but is a response that makes sense given the circumstances of your self)

>>45183441
so knowing i will never be a beautiful afab, i should just give up and kms?

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>>45183452
No, you should not. I take it from your post history and saying you had to ask your mom for HRT money that you're pretty young. There is absolutely time to be saved.

Even if my assumption is wrong, there's no point in kys because you wouldn't be an afab. As I said before that's dangerous rhetoric to internalize and this is exactly why. You can basically change your primary sex through SRS and your secondary sex through HRT. Surgeries do some heavy lifting too.

Also, not to mention these two options: contributing to progressive movements in regard to trans-rights as a 'cis ally' in order to help save people who can do what you could not (even though you should do it, these are last resorts); or, just using your male privilege to make in impact in another field you care about while putting your satisfaction in life with your actions rather than with yourself. Does that make sense at all? Hopefully it does. I just try to help!

>>45183502
>using your male privilege to make in impact
i am a loser neet that does nothing all day

>>45183515
> i am a loser neet that does nothing all day
i get that you're probably freaking out about a lot of aspects of your life right now but you can certainly change that I feel

anywhoodle, use what I've told you if you can or don't

>>45183548
if i get a job i will try to get on hrt, but even if i do get on hrt i doubt it will do anything for my disgusting moid body

i'm 25 and a neet
I should kill myself

i do not hate afabs i only hate that i do not have a feminine essence, i suppose you could call it the deepest level of envy
>>45183502
eternal trvthnvke

>>45183593
>i do not hate afabs
i hate afabs

>>45183587
come back after 10 yrs kid

Should I chase here? Which one of you has the most potential to be cute I’ll pay for your surgeries

>>45183618
i wish more people would chase here so i could get adopted desu people say i have potential

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666 consecutive week streak of having suicidal thoughts Award.