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how do you make it stop
no amount of boob growth is worth this torture
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>>45158837
what?
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>>45158837
what?
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>>45158846
progesterone and its consequences have been a disaster for the bagel
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>>45158878
what consequences vague faggot
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>>45158884
are you stupid or new
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>>45158884
the bagel is gooning over men
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>>45158890
normal
>>45158895
lmao
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>>45158895
i do not touch myself i am too dysphoric
>>45158905
>normal
>on the tranny board
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>>45158923
>normal
>on the tranny board
straight
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>>45158923
i'm slightly surprised you don't own toys
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>>45158979
im not a pervert
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>>45158837
i didn't realize bagel still posted here
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>>45159027
once in a blue moon
im normal now so i dont have any need for this place
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>>45159046
completely understandable tbhon
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>>45159016
well if you had toys you could cum like 2 or 3 times and that usually ends the prog horny episode. It might return worse next time or you might just end up low level horny constantly like the people doing locktober, especially if you don't ever cum except from a partner. But even so, its not that bad honestly. Estrogen horny is not as debilitating as moid horniness.
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>>45158837
didn't bagel get banged by a black guy? And posted a picture of her short hair, smiling face saying she had a black bf and comparing it to the mef bbc sissy poster? It was pretty funny ngl if that was bagel in the photo
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>>45159126

Fuck no i hope not, stupid ass coalburning trans women need to get off my board
can't believe bagel fucked a nigger IF true
bet he smelled like rotten socks, Newports and fruit-scented products that mix with the BO.
ICK ICK ickkk mega ick jesus

on the chance that poster is making this up i'm sorry bagel just stay away from black ppl
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>>45159118
i will not be doing that. my hole belongs to the lord
>>45159126
please don't involve me in your weird racist fetishes
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>>45159155
its retarded to be a Christian tranny, you're basically just larping. When you go to church everyone doesn't really accept you or want you to be there, they will always think you're just a gay man and not accept you, regardless of denomination. They are just being polite if they haven't said anything or are letting you join in worship. I'm serious i struggled with this for a long time but ultimately just had to accept that you can't really be in a church/religion and do the social rituals or public things with people as a tranny. The doctrine and belief system no matter which one it is, usually has inherent genders and biological truth as key points and so you are just fucked forever as an mtf
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>>45159170
im not reading all that i didnt say anything about being christian
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>>45159154
please stop watching cuck porn
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>>45159180
you didn't say you didn't fucked a black guy yk...
I am a bit worried desu
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bagel retvrn spoiled by bbcposter
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>>45158837
does prog really make you horny or is that honscience? I've been considering getting on it for breast growth and increased libido would be a nice addition
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>>45159155
Wow! A retarded tripfag! How craaaaaAaaaAAzy!
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>>45158890
>you don't know my tripfag lore therefore you must be a newfag
pathetic desu
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you can't. you either live with the mental instability or you stop. cypro does it too. be grateful you aren't a cisfoid with no choice in the matter
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>picrel
Dude think he aizen fr fr
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>>45159791
honscience
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>>45159791
I think the increased libido is real but the "prog fills you with an uncontrollable lust for beefy men" thing is honscience
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>>45158837
it kinda reverses prostate atrophy, idk enough about epigenetics for the rest, just get an njoy pure wand they're good for relieving yourself (had mine for 12 years)
>>45160059
lol
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>>45160241
>lol
?
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>>45160270
can you explain why? or it's just honscience because
>le funny contradiction refuse to elaborate haha
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>>45160295
it's honscience because it has never been proven and because there are like millions of reasons to be skeptical
so trust anecdotes I guess?
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>>45158837
stop prog if taking it isnt worth it?
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>>45159791
there isn't great evidence suggesting it does much at all. it can increase breast volume but apparently only while you're taking it. i was on it for a year and didn't notice anything.

i think you are better off focusing on T levels for libido (or just making sure blood is regularly flowing to the region, low T interferes with this) and E levels for breast growth
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>>45160525
i get what you mean but this is a very reddit way of thinking
>there are like millions of reasons to be skeptical
there are?
>so trust anecdotes I guess?
go off queen, slay with your WPATH SOC 8 pathway
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>>45160656
>there are?
men don't get hornier when using progestins
women don't get hornier when using progestins
women are hornier around ovulation, when estradiol is high and progesterone is low, compared with both the early follicular phase and the whole luteal phase, when estradiol levels are moderately high, but lower than ovulation levels, and progesterone levels are high
many other mammals don't have higher libido when progesterone levels are high. in some of them, progesterone actually suppresses libido because it is a hormone that supports pregnancy or a possible pregnancy, not one that triggers ovulation
it would be weird for progesterone to increase libido in women because its levels rise after ovulation, so women would have more sex after their fertile window?? (I know this is simplistic)
the female dual mating strategy hypothesis and the ovulatory shift hypothesis, two hypotheses that say that women experience changes in libido, mate preferences, and short term/long term mating preferences around ovulation and during the luteal phase due to the different effects of estradiol and progesterone on libido, have failed after being tested in high quality studies (excluding the libido increase during ovulation). mostly because progesterone is neutral
is this enough?
>i get what you mean but this is a very reddit way of thinking
"prog makes you horny" is recent (less than a decade old), completely made up, and comes from reddithons btw
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>>45159791
I was practically celibate for years after SRS. I got on prog last year and within a month I was on the dating apps. It made me touch starved and desperate to cuddle. I was already attracted to men though, it just increased my feelings for wanting a relationship.
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>>45160778
men don't shove bioidentical progesterone up their ass in close proximity to their prostate and seminal vesicles
women don't have a prostate to try this with, skene's gland while homologous isn't functionally the same
animals (hopefully) don't do the same either
i know it's rodent models and far from exhaustive but here, some DOIs I found when I was looking into androgenic effects of progsterone years ago:
>10.1691/ph.2009.9583
>10.1111/iep.12050
otherwise i cba to get into a publication flame war
my anecdatal hypothesis is for trannies, for whom the prostate is atrophied, progesterone (whether directly or via. androgenic metabolites or other paracrine factors) applied rectally (skipping first pass, close proximity) helps reverse some of that atrophy, and it's either this reversal or some other cascading effects from such that libido is perceived to be increased
of course it's not defacto insurmountable proof, but i have enough first-hand experience myself through 10yrs of HRT fuckery that progesterone still does and continues to affect my libido when inserted rectally
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>>45160970
does the bagel boof it?
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>>45159808
it's not about the trip lore it's about prog effects also you are absolutely anewfag & should commit suicide
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Im like 3 months on 200mg rectal nightly and apart from some mood improvement and good boob growth all it did was move my libido from 0 to 2 out of 10. I kinda envy ones like you
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>>45160970
>big prostate = attracted to men
>small prostate = attracted to women or asexual
uh... new blanchard typology?

prog is known to have antiandrogenic, androgenic, antiestrogenic and estrogenic effects
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>>45161084
>atrophy is when small
my sides
get a grip, go back
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>>45161403
are you retarded?
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>>45161429
it's not just being fucking small is it retard, normal functioning is reduced
consider the prostatic plexus, consider the pudendal nerve and pelvic walls, consider what atrophy means with regards to normal functioning of said organs, then consider killing yourself
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>>45161403
Yes it is...
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>>45161403
>>45161498
doctorhon meltie o algo
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>>45161498
So you should use another word.
And why would the nerves be involved? Stop with the broscience "hon"
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>>45161498
clitty leak
>consider the pudendal nerve
?
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