22 yrs old6'1 trannyI've always been super underweight and I'm currently 120lbs but I've finally had enough so I've been trying to fat max. I've been having about 6k calories a day (usually from fast food and heavy cream) if I keep this up I have to eventually get fat no? Any tips for accelerating weight gain?
>>45156016alcohol
>>45156030Yes, do this if you want to look really ugly with gross skin and a gross beer gut and destroy your body internally!
>>45156038Yeah I'm not doing alcohol but I do always have a cup of heavy cream by me c:
Protein shakes/weight gainer 5000 type powdersheavy whipping cream is a great one too, but if i drink more than 4 oz in one go I get weird yellow poops
>>45156016Pio and heavy cream
>>45156016prog
>>45156016>picrelgiwtwm
>>45156016How the fuck do you eat 6k calories when I can't ever go past 1200
>>45156921Lots of heavy whipping cream and 700 calorie starbucks cookies
>>45156016>Any tips for accelerating weight gain?Eat lots and lots and lots of simple sugars and high calorie, low satiation foods. The kind of stuff where you can down 800 calories and without knowing it and then be hungry again 20 minutes later. Make sure you always get large, full sugar soda. Candy is perfect for this. A common snack I would eat while unintentionally fatmaxxing as a teenager was to get a Blue Jolt (RIP blue jolt), Sour Skittles, Sour Patch Kids, and probably some Chips (all family size) then eat it all in one sitting while playing World of Warcraft. The real secret to fatmaxxing is absolutely eviscerating your metabolic health in addition to eating a calorie surplus.
>>45156016you can try to develop insulin resistance as fast as possible but you'll also want to focus on keeping enough unsaturated fats in your diet. that and enough carbs is supposed to do better with gaining overall bodyfat rather than just visceral fat in your midsectiontheres papers about this shit but honestly it becomes 50/50 pseudoscience after a certain point
How does this heavy cream taste that everyone talks about? I don't want to go to the store just to throw up...
>>45157197Doesn't really taste good or bad, tastes like thick watered down milk
>>45157197On its own like thick slightly unusual milk. It’s just very high fat milk.If you use milk flavor mix(like chocolate or strawberry syrup nesquik stuff) it’s just like thicker milk or a milkshake. Get that if your nervous
>>45157197it usually leaves a film when you drink it straight if that could be an issue
>>45156016start baking bread
>>45156016God id love to be so fat, I'm talking like 300-400lbs fat. I think it'd make me pass better too
>>45157197It's good with melted ice cream!!
>>45157322Just find one of several dyke feeders on the prowl on this board
>>45157537Where do I find said dyke feeders?To all the girl feeders on the board, hiiii please sponsor my heavy cream purchases!! ^^ I live in Chicago
>>45157613there's one here>>45131342two here>>45134908and there's one that goes by Croix
>>45156016I'm so unsure whether fatmaxxing would be for me. I like being slender, but being fat with good female fat distribution is hot to a concerning degree to me. I don't think I could live with the guilt and shame for being a fetishist
>>45156038It doesn't do that unless you become a heavy drinker. Occasionally having a beer or two with dinner is just really nice, and can bump your weekly calories by 800-1000 easily without making you look disgusting
>>45156016>6'1don't.
>>45156016you should slow down a bit imo, you don't want to just gorge yourself with fast food because you'll just gain too fast and end up with stretch marks, belly fat, etc. especially if you've always been thin your body is probably gonna want to store abdominal fat first so take it slow. figure out what your TDEE is and eat like 500 calories more, 1000 if you do a lot of exercise (which you should, it helps you gain weight healthily, no need to overdo it but some sport and strength training is good). ideally just eat a lot of nutritious but calorie dense food, dairy is your friend. get lots of protein too. it takes time, i'm 5'9 and i gained almost 60lbs and it took me over a year. this year i've been in a bit of a recomposition phase where my weight has stayed the same but i'm trying to lose stubborn belly fat and gain more muscle especially in the lower body, i'm starting to be pretty happy with my body now. i carry weight pretty well though because of my bone structure (i have a large-ish frame and am curvy, at 140lbs i had a tiny waist but my cheeks were hollow and i looked tired) and the fact i don't gain much face fat, i still have a defined jawline at BMI 29 lol>>45159199i love beer but unfortunately i have to say cutting out alcohol six months ago helped a lot with my body composition and my general appearance. i have less belly fat, better skin, better gym gains, etc. i wasn't a heavy drinker, just a good beer or two like once or twice a week. i don't think i'll be teetotal for life, it sounds kinda sad especially when we have the best beer on earth here, but rn i'm happy with the alcohol-free options.
>>45159350I find it very hard not to drink at least in winter. Spring and summer, I'm abstinent, but in winter there is just nothing to do here and everything is depressing, so I drink a few beers on the weekends and immediately gain like two kilos over the course of a few weeks
45159401i'm kinda the opposite, i can get through the dreary winter without drinking too much, i'm way more likely to cope with comfort food instead of alcohol. spring/early summer is the hardest season, like imagine it's may and it's sunny again and all the beer gardens are open and full of people watching the ice hockey... fuuuuck they get me every time dude, like a cold pint of pilsner straight from the tank on a beautiful may evening after work? who could refuse that honestly?
>>45159485Yeah, but that's social drinking. I do it too, but less often than just depression drinking in winter, and never as much in one sitting. And I'll often have non alcoholic beers in summer too, I just drink for refreshment and not to forget how miserable the world around me is in summer
>>45156016heavy cream is an elite meta. i hope they never patch it
>>45159485used to have a bad drinking problem but I replaced it with Chef Boyardee
>>45156016gallons of man cum every day, taken orally, as a suppository, or lathered on the skin. you should be v smelly
peanut butter is cheap, yummy, high calorie, and has way better macros than the sugarslop feeders will try to get you to eat. it won't let you gain as quickly (arguably a good thing as long as you're gaining at all) since it fills you up, but you'll probably feel a lot better physically. ppl also say to meal prep but i don't because i just eat microwaveable slop that's like 90% carbs instead. it tastes good as fuck what can i say.this helped me get to like 135 from 115 but i stopped there and went back down because i couldn't handle the feeling of my tummy pressing on the inside of my clothes and my genetics aren't made for fatmaxxing either
>>45156016>1 mention of pio in the entire threadjoin the discordtheres a whole channel dedicated to eating properly, beyond the drugsalso you dont need to fatmaxx now, there are drug combinations you can specifically use for short cycles to all but outright prevent weight going to anywhere other than your tits and ass
>>45160145>there are drug combinations you can specifically use for short cycles to all but outright prevent weight going to anywhere other than your tits and assAre they mentioned in the server? If not, can you please tell which ones you're referring to?
>>45160203yes, check the GCs channel and its pins in the verified section
>>45160229Thank you!
What did you do to help the white race today >>45160145Retarded server with verification and paranoid schizos who think that everyone is a fed or wants to steal their info. Either post your shit in a non retarded way or gtfo
>>45160145>I may have information I can copy paste for you but I won't
>>45160488>>45160454the last time we did this some retarded cis women posted she was going to put an immunosuppressant on freshly microneedled tits. we continually have problems with idiots on twitter reposting half a protocol without any of the info needed to make it safe, and the processes were using were still refining and collecting information on. why on earth would we dump the protocol on 4chan to sit in the archives forever as a potentially flawed or bad idea.
>>45160608I talked about your server where I either doxx myself as a tranny for (((you))) or I can't see shit on a serverYou just gatekeep some retarded information that is not even proven to be working, what's the point to have a secret club like that
>>45161309im sorry you lack the ability to read
>>45161338>no links>no text>no mentions of anything>0 info postedYeah, I like to read your mind. I have a telepathy and superpowers now. You're a retarded gorilla nigger who keeps vagueposting without saying anything related to the topic.
>>45161452you apparently had access to the server prior. you while there chose not to read. thats on you.
I am sick of EVERY weight gain thread getting derailed by this asshole arguing with everyone and shilling their private discord
>>45161476I was telling you that you made it private and forced users to dox themselves to get an actual info from it. Your users are also deranged paranoid schizos who believe that everyone is a troll/fbi agentI don't even get what you're trying to say here. If your info is good, considered the topic, you'd share it to improve it or at least verify. If your info is shit, you'll just keep it at your "community"
keep doing what you are doing but make sure you get 1g protein per pound body weight and do strength training. focus squats since legs are big. then you will gain muscle and fat at the same time.double the weight, and you will have scaffolding to support and push our your curves accentuating them. and also if you just sit around and eat you will lose muscle to atrophy! so you will gain slower that way. plus your body is always burning and depositing fat all the time. so if you move more it will do it more and you will get better definition redistribution too. that is, assuming you arent trying to transition into a sphere
>>45161723you are asked to post a video of your HRT, name, and fingers. you are in no way doxxing yourself, schizo.>>45161590i keep posting because it keeps improving peoples results substantially
a vegan diet gets u the best kinds of fats so tons of pb&j and onions milk to truly be a basedboy
>>45162988Yeah yeah keep pretending it's not doxing. The results will also be hidden, unless you "prove you're a legitimate person". Fucking palantir type of BSUnless you're willing to show anything, your entire "community" and advice should be taken as an attempt to: 1) groom people and 2) ruin their bodiesAlso, it's nice to see that there's no way for people who don't take hrt to enter the server. Yeah, very inclusive of you.
>>45164324go back sneedy
>>45164324thank you for containing your noHRT BPD to 4chan. I hope you get better soon.
>>45157613holy moly i live in chicago too.. feeder dykes beware fat trannies await you in chicago
>>45166904- trolling (checks)- 0 useful information (checks)- 0 reading ability (checks)Seek a medical help, you're literally retarded and you shouldn't be on the internet
do i try to get more body fat % or just keep exercising?https://n.uguu.se/bWnTVJGZ.jpghttps://h.uguu.se/lXGzvGsR.jpg
im going to ignore their noHRTer ass i think>>45167429your central and outer gluteofemoral depots are underfilled, you could do with some volume there
>>45167695how much more weight would that be roughly?
>>45167733really depends on where you and your body puts it. typically fat pad shape is set by puberty and requires doing weird shit to unset. if nothing else youll need to gain on pio.
>>45167736i was skinny but not underweight most of my life, im already at my heaviest rn by about 7kg. considering the pic can i just do more of the same?
>>45167746it depends entirely on where the septae and connective tissue in your subcutaneous stores are loosest, and what you feed yourself. the first and probably most important bit of information i can say is that approximately speaking insulin = male pattern fat, PPARy = female pattern fat. high glycemic index foods are your enemy, healthy fats are your friend. pioglitazone makes this process much easier and is a very heavy hand on the lower body distribution as PPARy receptors are mostly found in your lower bodys subcutaneous stores.the second bit of info i can give you is that where fat goes is also strongly affected by tissue self regulating signals, including inflammatory signalling, vascular support, and mechanosensors that tell your body fat how stretched the local fibrous matrix its embedded in is. the tl;dr of that is that the more you strain a depot against the shape it was set in during puberty, the more it fights further expansion and the more fat goes to other places. there are tools you can use to deal with this, but theyre not exactly idiot proof and for safety reasons basically nobody discusses them in public so twitter tards dont an hero with them by not understanding how to use them safely.t;dr is it really depends, and it depends mostly on what puberty decided your internal adipose connective tissue structure should be like.
>>45156016>6'1 trannyGrim
>>45167830tldr i eat peanut butter and seeds? not really interested in getting sucked down a rabbit hole
>>45167859You can start with that and slowly let yourself fall down the rabbit hole. It's not a slippery slope and you have free will but if you like female fat distribution then it will be hard to stop at "just enough"
>>45167859peanut butter is an absolutely solid choice desu, plenty of olive oil too as oleic acid is a natural PPARy ligand and healthier on you than palmitic acid.
>>45167873its more that i dont want to autistically try to understand all the systems and meds and then still not apply myself properly.
>>45167695You're a fucking retard where did I say I don't take it, you're retarded brown trannyRe read what I said, I was talking about people WHO DO NOT TAKE HRT and you automatically assumed it's meNow I'll automatically assume you're a typical discord child groomer and prevent anyone from joining your server. If you'll keep spamming it, I'll ensure your cult will get banned for grooming
>>45156016Gain muscle.
>>45168429schizo
>>45168521Still no arguments and you keep vague posting with no sources to people who ask for a health related advice :)
>>45168544no spoonfuls of sugar for the retarded today
>>45168566I know you personally, so I don't even know what pissed you off so much about my posts that you refuse to do it. You also do this thing again when you're coming up with imaginary scenarios, I didn't ask you for help, but a person above did, and you gave a vague response, no links, and no sources
>>45168579if you know me personally why are you complaining when you have the ability to read everything? what is your objection to >>45167830
>>45168758Re read what I said about your discord community and I told you exactly what's wrong with your postI was in the community long before it reached the point of gatekeeping everything behind a KYT (know your tranny) policy
>>45168790are you the lunatic with the fucked tits?
>>45167830>the second bit of info i can give you is that where fat goes is also strongly affected by tissue self regulating signals, including inflammatory signalling, vascular support, and mechanosensors that tell your body fat how stretched the local fibrous matrix its embedded in is. the tl;dr of that is that the more you strain a depot against the shape it was set in during puberty, the more it fights further expansion and the more fat goes to other places.do you have sources for this? i could look it up but it's kinda annoying looking up anything that involves fat in pubmed because you have to sift through a bunch of bullshit about weight loss
>>45168801No, but if you care about the breasts, they're petite, but in a good shape (I guess because they're not that big). I'm saving for a surgery and plan on making them a look "bigger than naturals"
>>45156038so wrong, drinking a beer or 2 has shown to raise estrogen levels, unironically has been the best thing for my transition, I’ll wake up with clearer smoother skin and feel amazing, beer ftw
>>45169058oh well good luck with that
>>45169089It's the most retarded thing I've seen in a while. Even telling someone to eat McDonald's to get a bigger ass is a better advice than this>>45169130Thanks
>>45169019from an in server writeup:Broadly speaking superficial fat is broadly organised in a cubic fashion, with vertical collagen septae traversing the superficial fat pad lower fascia to the skin layer. Deeper fat typically has a greater proportion of cross linked collagen structures forming its ECM. Neither of these patterns is universally the case, as male sex determination results in a greater tendency to cross linked collagen structures, and fat exhibits variation across its structure with a tendency to favour collagen structures over fatty structures in load bearing areas like around joints. These collagen structures are thought to contribute to the bodies ability to mechanically resist force, and its long established that sex differences in gluteofemoral fat distribution contribute to different strain patterns at the hip.ECM is not merely a passive structure, but has properties that affect fat depot function and growth. Complex mechanosignalling pathways provide mechanisms for adipocytes to sense resistance from the ECM to limit expansion ([10.3390/ijms20194888](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6801592/), [10.3390/biology11050765](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9138682/)) and alter gene expression ([ 10.1177/19373341251405218](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41468065/)). The bodies ability to remodel this ECM limits the extent of fat pad expansion, as without remodelling intracellular signalling and hypoxic cell death and dysfunction provide hard breaks on adipocyte growth. Addressing fibrotic content, vascularisation, and elasticity of ECM is thus a significant consideration in fat pad expansion.
>>45160145where can i find the link to the discord?
>>45169152>In addition, MMP inhibition during weight loss modifies adipose tissue inflammation during weight regain, suggesting that the MMP inhibition could be an exciting target to establish weight cyclers>Therefore, it is probable that a more significant reduction in ECM remodeling capacity during the weight regain might lead to immune cell trafficking and retention, which suggests that resident inflammation after weight loss increases regain risk and might contribute to worsening of physiologic responses during weight cycling.weight cycling is a big maybe as per usual kek
>>45156016go on dates with me then let me feed you ice cream and rub your belly until you pass outalso just eat all day you can even set reminders to snack more
>>45169944Okay come to chicago and take me out then silly
>>45156016>I want to not only be ugly but fatYou do you.
>>45170252I'm already cute and being fat would just make me pass even better
>>45169149literally aint, im chronically underweight and drinking 1-2 beers every night or so has noticeable improvements, look into the studies on how beer affects hormones dawg, trust, getting drunk on beer is bad for you but drinking just enough to stay under tipsy has more benefits than downsides
Weyes que se hace aquí en 4chan apreté aleatorio y vi este mensaje, nose que hacer
>>45169476https://enjoys.rocks/?a6bb3d5a0b6190a9#6Fsf7RoAvMrgEyCKXiNXbqvTY6mdV7qKG2Tt2mejxJrhpassword: pioglitterzone2>>45169569lol
>>45169149what's wrong with mcdonaldsit gave me a bigger ass
>>45169944>>45170233cute
>>45170373Kazibwe R, Chevli PA, Evans JK, Allison M, Michos ED, Wood AC, Ding J, Shapiro MD, Mongraw-Chaffin M. Association Between Alcohol Consumption and Ectopic Fat in the Multi-Ethnic Study of Atherosclerosis. J Am Heart Assoc. 2023 Sep 19;12(18):e030470. doi: 10.1161/JAHA.123.030470. Epub 2023 Sep 8. PMID: 37681576; PMCID: PMC10547290.corroborates your statement; it says drinking more than two drinks a day makes you have higher visceral fat, less subq, but drinking a little helps a bit. i didn't read the whole thing but the abstract says alcohol consumption and ectopic fat follows a J-shaped curve. be careful not to drink too much!
>>45156065were you posting about heavy cream in the peanut butter thread or is this just a thing...
oops i meant to post this one
>>45175415No that was not me wtf T~T eating straight peanut butter sounds like hellDrinking heavy cream is a thing for weight gain. It's extremely calorie dense and just tastes like weird milk
>>45175415i know heavy cream is the meta but how viable is it to do this? i could force myself to eat a jar of peanut butter every day, im just not sure how effective it would be compared to other options
>>45156016alcohol, pregabalin and milk
>>45175461Peanut Butter isn't BAD, but it's not good either. Nutella gives you a bit more bang for your buck, but more importantly it digests faster and fills you slower. Peanut Butter is very filling.
>>45175479>Peanut Butter is very filling.yeah because it actually has protein and isn't just saturated fat slop
>>45170653its malware why am I not surprised
>>45175573Well yeah but this thread isn't for gaining muscle it's for gaining body fat so the fat slop is good
>>45175601high IQ post
Holy fuck, more trans women with huge asses, tits, and cute stomachs to rub. Please for the love of god send one of you my way. I will become a devote god fearing christian. this is the only way oh heavenly lord. Grant me this one wish during my earthly existence, hopefully my piety will let you forgive the unbridled lust I have for chubby and thick women
ew gross why
>>45175823Fuck it. My discord is frenchfarmsMaybe by the behavior I've shown I'm a chaser. But I'm more than that. I was mainly raised by a single mother and elder sister. I have dated trans women before and shown restraint and respect.I'm 26, very tall, eastern timezone. My life is a mess again but Im working tirelessly through self study, therapy, and exercise. I don't have any mental disorders, aside from ADHD and maybe some autism (lmao).Fuck it. Come message me.
>>45175573I don't want protein tho
>>45175573Why would I want protein in my fat slop?????
>>45175615>>45177062>>45178327because surely you are also exercising for bigger glutes and thighs instead of just gutmaxxing?
>>45178342No I'm scared of burning calories, I been just hoping that prog and E will put the fat into the right places
>>45178465And to be fair so far it's been doing wonders for my chest
>>45178465calories burned directly from exercising amount to almost nothing
>>45157197Update, it tastes like I'm drinking butter.. its difficult to tolerate and may need chocolate syrup or something added like an anon said
>>45178535It's also good in a shake!!
>>45178465>Two commonly used exercise training prescriptions (12 weeks (4 days week–1) of either moderate-intensity continuous training (MICT; 70% maximal heart rate, 45 min) or high-intensity interval training (HIIT; 90% maximal heart rate, 10 × 1 min) increased collagen type 5a3, while reduced MMP-9 and fat cell size in human subcutaneous adipose tissue of adults with obesity [104]. However, these exercise-mediated changes did not induce weight loss.>These findings support the hypothesis that aerobic exercise training leads to adipose tissue ECM remodeling, which regulates fibrosis by macrophage mitigation in obese mice.from >>45169152 >https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9138682/this isn't that generalizable because the amount of exercise these ppl are prescribed is very high compared to what's easily achievable with consistency but it's a way to think about things. also, exercise activates ppar alpha which iirc MIGHT have a greater effect on lipolysis in ectopic depots. don't remember where i read that but i think it was on a pubmed study
>>45178342no i'm just a fat slug and it still all goes to my ass
>>45178563Do you have like a TLDR retard-proof exercise regimen for maximizing lower body gains during weight gain / bulk?
>>45156016im gonna give yall some wisdom, weed, get a pen, some bud, edibles, doesn't matter, get weed, get blazed, get fat, simple as
>>45178535Syrup will help
>>45178655nope! sorry :P
Does anyone know a site on where to purchase Pio from? With US shipping preferably
>>45178844Unitedpharmacy does but you will need to learn to crypto
>>45178465nona you need some muscle too. a little bit isnt going to make you look all bulky and you dont want to end up with problems from not having enough muscle over time
>>45179221Are you sure :c what's wrong with not having enough muscles?
>>45179094been out of stock for a while and shipping is absurd for united currently, any other sites?
>>45179400well for one it'll be hard to get around. secondly it makes your ass and legs look way fucking uglier if you have no muscle. not having enough muscle is also just generally bad for you because it makes you frailer (more likely to get hurt from random stuff) and it also makes your movement more likely to hurt your joints and bones
>>45179400can lead to osteoporosis and also increases the load on your joints
>>45156016youre gonna look disgusting dont do this
Should I continue my skeleton maxing or should i become fat. I'm currently 52kg at 5'5. Being skinny feels good, having a body that remains but food can taste good but is a very temporary thing. Do you anons like being fat or skinny more?
>>45183072if you're mtf get on pio first, but yes get fat
>>45183072You'll be much happier fatter
>>45183072i'm the exact same height and weight and i'm trying to gain weight, but maybe just 5kg first and see how it goes
>>45183200Explain pio to me >>45183241I do like food, of course I enjoy milkshakes, icecream with chocolate junks, pan fried bananas, popcorn, burgers, fries and such but as I've said before it's quite a temporary thing. I think I'll get my BMI down to 17 then after a while of that I'll consider fattening up to 20 or even MORE (slowly) then I go back to 17 BMI or lower. Experimenting on myself
>>45183417It's a drug that makes fat more feminine, makes more fat the harmless under the skin kind instead of the risky around the organs kind, and prevent diabetes
>>45183416How much weight are you planning on gaining?>>45183436Appreciate the explanation
>>45183453>How much weight are you planning on gaining?just 5kg to start to see if i like it
>>45178465exercise really doesn't burn many calories lol even my most intense cardio day where i do like an hour of stairmaster only burns like 500, 600 at most which is nothing. i don't track how much my weightlifting sessions burn but probably not that much, building muscle improves your metabolism though.>>45178655if all you want is lower body then go gym and hit it twice a week, maybe three times if you recover fast, but you need to hit it hard so if you can do it three times a week i'm skeptical as to whether it's hard enough. you don't need to spam 10 different exercises or do loads of sets and reps but they should be hard and the form should be good. if you squat then squat deep as you can, if you hip thrust then make sure you squeeze at the top of the movement, etc. like i see girls doing these exercises at the gym a lot but half of the time the form is shit, there's no point hip thrusting 100kg or whatever if the whole movement lasts a millisecond. could be good to get a trainer to show you proper form at the beginning. on a typical leg day i'll do barbell squats, hip thrusts, RDLs, lunges, leg extension, lying leg curl and box jumps. have a few other exercises i rotate in and out too. the next day you should be in actual pain if it was hard enough, if you feel like you can already work out legs again it was too easy.>>45181583this anon is right. if you want to be thick in an attractive way you should ideally have some muscle under the fat, when it's just fat it's shapeless. i was severely undermuscled because i just took E and pio and didn't do any resistance training and i hated how i looked, it wasn't until i started going to the gym and lifting heavy that i saw a difference. it takes months though but you need to keep doing it and being consistent. and yeah you want to have a healthy level of muscle mass for general health especially as you get older, being frail isn't cool.
>>45183072I don't regret getting fat whatsoever.
>>45183982What did you eat to get big?
>>45184003Mostly dairy and chocolate
