>>45147704
are you trying to imply that transgenderism is an inherently antisocial ideology?

because i agree with you if so

>The broad definition of anti-social behavior ("conduct that has caused, or is likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress") under Respect Orders could be misused in ways that disproportionately affect trans individuals, particularly in the context of the new EHRC Code of Practice on single-sex services:

Enforcement of Single-Sex Space Rules:

>The EHRC guidance states that access to single-sex spaces (like toilets) can be determined based on an individual's "physical appearance, behaviour or concerns raised by other service users." If a trans person is challenged or harassed by others for using a facility that aligns with their gender identity but not their biological sex, their presence could be framed as causing "distress" to others.

Risk of Policing Gender:

>Critics and UN experts warn that the new guidance risks "institutionalising discrimination" and encouraging service providers or the public to "police gender" based on superficial assessments. This could lead to trans people being reported for anti-social behavior simply for existing in spaces where they are not perceived to match their biological sex.

>Disproportionate Impact:

>The London Assembly and human rights groups argue that the combination of these measures creates a climate where trans people face heightened risks of harassment and exclusion, potentially leading to them being subjected to Respect Orders if their presence is deemed disruptive by those enforcing the single-sex space rules.

Here's what should happen:

>revoke gender reassignment as a protected category
>revoke legal gender change by the government
>ban gender affirming care for minors under the age of 18
>retroactively ban all trannies in the UK military
>ban all diversity, equity and inclusion thought public institutions

This is the difference between the UK and anywhere else on earth.

The USA and Russia are like "we gonna ban trannys" and then trans people can say look, they're harming us. The UK passes the most vague shit ever, causing alarm. Alarm! So you could be a non passing tranny, be reported and the police can question a member of the public "were you alarmed when you see this trans person?" If they say yes, they can ban the trans person from walking outside.

Walk outside and you can get 2 years prison. And it isnt just the police that can hand out these banning orders, landlords, supermarkets and other authorities can issue a Respect Order.

But it doesnt specifically target trans people, its framed as keeping the public safe so now the authorities can kill us off under the cover of darkness

>law about antisocial behavior
>it specifically enables if not encourages antisocial behavior
war is peace
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength

>>45149349
As expected of Airstrip One.

>>45149349
If you harass others, you're the victim.

Like when the police paid Graham Lineham £25k because he attacked a kid

>>45150311
that's not why he got 25k

>>45149349
brits are going Children of Men at mach fucking speeds and they didnt even need a global fertility crisis to spark it. its like they have a natural inclination towards cruelty and destruction, even their own.
heres hoping scotland and wales get out unscathed.

>>45147704
Malicious compliance should be responded; start decrying any foid that doesn’t look “up to standard”. Throw in terfs for their aggressive behavior. Start fighting fire with fire and reveal how fucking ridiculous and easy it is to turn their own weapons against themselves.

>>45150647
Yes it is. The man incited mass violence and attacked a kid.

So the police arrested him and he had to go to court. But the UK is the most corrupt shithole on planet earth, so they paid him money, despite him actually admitting to attacking the kid. But the judge overruled him and said maybe the phone magically broke just before Linehams attack

>>45150901
Already happens, go on mumsnet and plenty of terfs are crying they got accused of being trans

>>45147819
I warned leftists throughout the 2010s that the UK's hate crime policies were insanely vague and authoritarian and would one day be used against them. Arresting someone based on the subjective feelings of someone else is fucking insane but for some reason people across the political spectrum in the UK seem to think that this is acceptable. You can't just flirt with authoritarianism and not expect it to bite you in the ass. All it took was one wealthy terf to change things around over there, and a lot of her TERF friends had done prison sentences which gave them a persecution complex and a lot of sypathy they did not need and unlike in the US where I think a lot of these anti trans laws will be repealed very quickly...The UK might actually be heading towards TTD.

>>45151908
trannies are pathetic all you have to do is stop them from talking to kids and they cry genocide

>>45147704
I do wonder why britain became terf central and their strongest fortress despite being extremely liberal on basically every other issue at least relatively to the western space. I honestly expected it to have had its terf movement die off by now

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>>45147728
waow (based)

>>45151916
No I actually sympathize with them here. Allowing any woman to "feel uncomfortable" and call the police on a tranny is authoritarian and insane. Given how petty and unreadable and mood swingy cisfoids are I pity anyone who is on the recieving end of that.

In the U.S. the president and the DOJ have actively talked about revoking the 2nd amendment for trans people. They have legitimate grievances. If you ask me troons rights should be codified like the second ammendment. "Congress shall pass no law infringing on the right to change gender, posess a gock or goon one's sissy clitty, the right to troon out and the enjoyment of the aforementioned SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

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>>45151920
The UK is to the left of the US (NHS (good), wacky rules about how much people get paid (bad)), but it's not more liberal than the US. Cameras everywhere, licenses for everything, stricter internet, etc.

>>45151976
Fuck off the NHS is total fucking dogshit, I'll take the US health system over it

>>45151988
Haven't been to the UK in a long time, maybe it's not so good now. Either way my point is that the UK is a conservative place even with some economically left-wing stuff.

People need to stop bringing up left and right in regards to the uk, there is no left or right here, its just regime puppets doing a dance for normgroids so the regime can stay in power
Notice how tranny hatred and tranny association with grooming went into overdrive once people and those not just in the uk were exposed to a snippet of some court documents detailing what victims of foreign rape gangs went through
Well there you go, pakis continue to rape kids because the regime lets the normgroids bash trannies instead to "cool tensions"

>>45151976
No, its a very conservative country.

The public are racist as fuck, they hate lgbt people, they want the death penalty back, they yearn for authoritarianism.

Its not liberal at all, what fucking world are you living in, go wear a brightly coloured coat in one of the many shithole towns up and down the country, tell me how long before you get attacked or harassed

>>45151976
>but it's not more liberal than the US

I cant fucking read. Im sorry. Im actually agreeing with you.

>>45151976
>The UK is to the left of the US

Oh no wait. Its not to the left, the US is very diverse, you cant compare Oregon to Louisiana, two different realities.

Thats another interesting point, the USA us diverse, with different cultures and view points. The UK is homogenous, you have the class system but the views remain consistent, the upper classes, middle classes and lower classes all broadly agree on the same topics, even if they express it in different words.

Non conformity is aggressively punished. I was just reflecting on how violent England is, everywhere feels unsafe all the time

>>45151973
>Allowing any woman to "feel uncomfortable" and call the police on a tranny is authoritarian and insane

Divide and rule tactics. Pretty horrible

r/transgenderuk makes me laugh

Every week theres a post ssying "hi, im a non passing tranny from XZY country, will i be ok in Britain", and every single reply says absolutely nothing bad will happen, its just a few bad newspaper posts, the average Brit is lovely, wonderful and friendly. But we are literally more extreme than any red state in the US or Russia.

Just last week one of the richest men in England was attacked and robbed outside an exclusive restaurant, the UK is anarchy. Why do they lie to these naive tranners, its really horrible here

>>45151908
>All it took was one wealthy terf to change things around over there
It's a whole ass industry funded by influential old money and people like rowling

>>45147704
so in other words your existence is obscene and illegal in public
STOP TOLERATING FAITH

>>45154899
>nothing bad will happen
>post every couple of days of someone saying they are getting harassed while out and about
That sub just wants others to join them on their miserable shithole of an island

>>45154899
>>45156059
I posted there asking about experiences looking for jobs while being visibly trans and 90% of the comments told me to boymode lol. The majority of the user base are complete and utter doomers. At the same time though I do roll my eyes a bit at the catastrophising when I’m one of the ones getting harassed while out and about and I’m 10x less doomy than the paranoid shut-ins who live in the nicer areas in the south of England.

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>>45156059
You kind of just get used to a lot of shit and stop noticing it. I sometimes think things are pretty good and that I don't really experience transphobia in daily life, but then someone talks about an experience that I also had and only then does it register again. Fades into the background, ups baseline stress level. They're probably not malicious, they just don't realize how shitty they have it.
>>45156254
>looking for jobs while being visibly trans and 90% of the comments told me to boymode lol.
To be fair, is there anywhere in the world where that wouldn't be the standard advice? Pretty sure being a non passing tranny will make finding a job hard no matter where you are

>>45156270
Why do Brits say muslimah and not just Muslim women? It's very weird in the English language to have a dedicated gendered noun. Americans don't use this, I've only ever seen British people do it. Whenever I read it, I can't help but hear it in Richard Dawkins' voice

>>45153650
will be hard to get the majority to look beyond tribalism unfortunately, at the rate we're going we'll never reach that stage of enlightenment

>>45156254
Travel and you'll see that Britain is uniquely shit

do people realize UK has a monarchy? that's fascist society by definition.

>>45158512
The monarchy are largely ineffective, its the aristocracy that cause immense misery

>>45158512
a lot of european countries still have monarchies, and none of them are as bad as the uk

It’s an anti white law rather than anything else.
Truly terrible what has happened to men who pushed the globe further after Greece and Italy were the ones to pick it up.
What has happened to western civilisation.
I could never be a wife to this century.

>>45147704
Hordes of black kids cause issue issues in town centres in England. The issue cannot be dealt with directly as it would be framed as racist. So they make this indirect law to deal with the issue. The real question is if this law will be applied to the blacks or just used against the natives. England has a real issue where most of its issues are caused by foreigners or browns but they are unable to deal with them because of the racism shield. Nobody cares about trannies enough to call the police on them.

>>45147704
Yeah yeah, "an ASBO for pissing" or whatever but if you're intelligent you realize this will only clear hons off the street, so if you're against this you're either not thinking it through orrrr... honus malonus

That said this >>45159698 is 100% correct, the comedy is that it's a tool created to deal witha problem it absolutely won't in practice be used to deal with because the enforcers are just as scared to use it for its intended purpose as the framers of the law are to speak clearly about what they want done, so trannies (whom it will actually be used against) are just a wacky collateral damage in reality

>>45151973
>If you ask me troons rights should be codified like the second ammendment. "Congress shall pass no law infringing on the right to change gender, posess a gock or goon one's sissy clitty, the right to troon out and the enjoyment of the aforementioned SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
lmao trying to pass this amendment would be the quickest route to total dismantling of trans rights in the US

>>45150885
i'm not british and have no stake in either nationalism or unionism but it's never going to be not funny to me how much the scots managed to rehabilitate their image and paint themselves as victims of the english when scotland benefitted as much as england (if not more) from the empire. most of the people actually doing the colonizing in places like india, ireland and the caribbean were scots, they were by no means just some passive nation that went along with what england ordered. i mean glasgow and edinburgh were both basically built on profits from slavery. i don't really feel much sympathy for them being caught up in england's bullshit.
>>45159698
this is crazy if true, did the whole backlash over how the grooming gangs were dealt with there not make the police any less afraid of being accused of racism if they intervene in crimes whose perpetrators are mainly non-white?

when exactly did the english go from
>let's take a crack at the mick
to
>racism is le bad akshually

>>45158512
yeah but like people online told me it's good the king gets executive oversight and power
cuz like it's totally never used for insider trading or to carve out exceptions in policy for them and their mates
and always used in good faith, like when they killed self-id in scotland

>>45159698
>>45159904
>uhhh muh nigger infestation uhhh muzzies ahhhh nooo indians too foook
zogbots full steam ahead
>>45159974
nothing to do with race and everything to do with the state of the country
it's a corruption racket ran for the elite, like america and the rest of the neoliberal world, there's no interest in building an actual functioning country, everything deemed 'policy' is just a side effect of corporate meddling
nonsense policy around policing and race stuff comes from this, it's not actually down to race or "woke" or whatever reactionary culture war shit zogbots want you to believe

Don't forget the new porn ban that's coming in on Nov 6th too. Possession of imagery or videos related to breathplay including facesitting and motorboating, incest roleplay and 'barely legal'/age-related roleplay is punishable by up to 5 years imprisonment and this applies to all material already saved to your devices.

https://x.com/MylesJackman/status/2115778403877982587

>>45161140
What does this have to do with the law in the OP or with trannies though?

>>45161140
>motorboating is illegal
Joke of a country

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>>45161166
The Christians pushing this also hate trans people

>>45162430
This one actually isn't too bad, it's being implemented along with a massive restriction on asylum seekers etc. generally, basically a legislative version of "if you like them so much why don't you let them live in YOUR house". Basically the governent is dumping all the costs of immigritos on the bienpensant middle class who will have to fund charities to pay for their integration.

>>45164122
>basically the government is giving free feign to billionaires to enact divide and rule wherever they please

Amazing

>>45165486
This would be a problem if lax immigration were genuinely driven by evil billionaires trying to population replace, but fortunately that's a qtard conspiracy theory and what's actually going on is that the retarded middle class is ideologically captured by Ultra Retardation 3000™ (deluxe package) (maximum savings) and promoting immigration out of sheer cretinism. Once they have to pay for it themselves instead of dragooning other people's tax money, nature will heal.

>>45147704
>lets see how it helps transgender people
It won't.
Every law is a double edged sword...
Will it provide you protection?
Sure. As long as you meet the following 46 criteria.
But the second a Police Officer finds themselves on the low end of arrest quotas, you're screwed.
Where else can you get charged with a "non crime hate crime" and "offensive tweets".
Sure, it may feel good calling the Police when you are offended, but when you are the one making others feel offended, do you still feel good whilst down at the station?

>>45165661
Its in the super richs interest to have cheap labour and for the workers to fight amongst themselves

>>45165713
The police have never helped trans people, you live in a fantasy world

>>45165727
I'm talking about "the law as written".
Without sounding religious, no law that doesn't stem from the 10 commandments (or Jewish/Islamic/Buddhist/whatever) teachings is there to actually help anyone.
And even some of those are moral/religious crimes.
I don't think your holy book of choice has "Thou shalt be imprisoned if you refuse to pay the BBC in order to watch ITV" for example.

>>45165713
>It won't.
That's the joke anon...

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>>45166852

my towns high street went from busy and all locally owned businesses to dead and then all replaced with brownoid owned businesses like turkish barbers, ethnic food slop, phone repair places all in the space of 4 years. sexual assaults and drug use have skyrocketed since then too.

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>>45166078
So what?

>>45165747
Ok, well the police target trans people, there has never been a time the British police were on the side of trans people