Pistol caliber carbine generalPCCs, sub guns, PDWs, whatever you got.>in b4 a million MP5s edition I welded a Skorpion and designed a suppressor, what are you anons up to?
>>65621289I don't have a pcc but I want one.
>>65621300What ones are you looking at? The ruger charger used to be a kind of "why though" gun but there's an FRT now so you can larp interwar sub guns with it I guess.
>>6562128911.5 PSA AR mogs all/thread
What solid FRT options for the vz61 are there, I preordered one of those kits that are going to be coming in and it'd be neat to have that option.
What solid FRT options for the vz61 are there, I preordered one of those kits that are going to be coming in and it'd be neat to have that option.>>65621320>doesn't have both
>>65621334>wasted money on bothretard
>>65621335>frogposting on a Friday morning
Always wanted an mp5.I’ve been debating buying the sp5 or the ap5.Even if I get an Ap5 that’s “just as good” I worry I will always regret it not being a real HK.On the other hand the HK is just so much more expensive it’s crazy. It’s usually not 2x as much but closer to 2.5x as much.I wonder if it’s worth the investment and pride of ownership over saving so much money and just having a blast shooting.
>>65621289Bought myself a scorpion. Once I get my kit in, I'm looking at designing a section of weld on picatinny that will attach to the lower portion of the trunion. I might even take it a step further as a "modernized" VZ61 that uses a extruded aluminum upper with all the modern accoutrement sounds so hilariously stupid that I want to make one. Or I might just keep it simple and design the rail to have a floating top section as well. Wait and see. I'd rather just buy a separate stripped upper to tear apart than waste my one good upper.Also looking at 3D printing a ~30 round casket magazine. Its going to depend on how .32 acp acts when feeding is merged. In previous experinents I've done, even 40 round casket mags, properly designed, can work extremely reliably if you're not trying to stupidly make a sprkng push 3 fucking pounds of ammunition.
I was worried about being attacked by a hundred unarmed, unarmoured people so I built a ppsh on a glock frame with a monopod.Also did the maths and a 3/1 variable rate of fire, like a cyclical burst is ideal for target acquisition in full auto
>>65621289ah fug, i've always wanted to get a vz61 and i didn't grab one when czechpoint had them for like $600.
>>65621385Keeping scorpions as pets seems wrong. Its a wild animal, let it go anon
So, if you have a stock ap5 and you put a rare sneed in it, what degree locking block do you need and what grain 9mm should you run so it doesn't beat itself to death?
>>65621289Do skorpions come in 9x18 mak or just 32
I currently have Kriss Vector CRB that's getting it's barrel cut down and threaded. I'm gonna add a Jaki Titanium Hunter suppressor and when I'm done it's likely the only civilian legal suppressed Kriss Vector currently in my cunt.
>>65621372ive tried both, theres literally no difference. buying the HK version is always done as a weak flex.
>>65621372>want to sell it in the future>more focused on having a pristine condition "real" mp5 to post on redditSP5>want to actually shoot itAP5
>>65621289Prototyping a better FRT for the DB MP and putting the finishing touches on my abomination
>>65622031Still waiting on a taller hammer and have to pick a muzzle device, otherwise it's done.
>>65621710the vector is cool but man that charging handle takes some effort to pull back, at least on the 10mm
>>65621334as far as I know there's one or two 3D printed ones out at the moment that mostly work, but they're single position and have an absurd rate of fireunless you're going to 3D print your receiver to be able to use an ar-15 FRT and then you'll have more options, albeit a bit ugly
>>65621661100 or 90 degree. If you plan on using a suppressor 90 degree would be the better option just to keep the fouling down a tad but both will work just fine. Any non +P+ ball 9mm will suffice, flat nose stuff is hit or miss depending on your gun.
>>65622035is this ai generated or just a failed mockup?
Bought this thing today and I wanna brag so I suppose this is the thread to do it. The Rhodesian LDP pistol, this specific model was actually produced in Rhodesia.Took it out to the range for the first time today and this thing fucking blows. It light strikes constantly, throws a ton of sparks when shooting, the stock can just collapse itself mid firing and also it can't hit the broadside of a barn. It's to the point where at 15 meters my groups were the same size as my groups at 50 with a Garand. That being said, it's may not have reliability nor accuracy but it does have character and I'm overall happy with my purchase.
>>65622094Very cool anon
>>65622094You can probably fix the light striking with a heavier spring if the pin protrusion is good. If it's not you might be able to trim back the shoulder on the pin itself.
>>65622081Neither
>>65622107>You can probably fix the light striking with a heavier springI thought of that, but idk what I think of the pin protrusion yet and also I only got this thing yesterday so its all work in progress, so to speak
>>65621332There's a metal 3-pos one coming out soon, and there's a 3d printed one available currently (and a metal clone of it) but you gotta do some grinding on anything made with surplus parts>>65621401You can just make things you know. This skorp took me 9 hours to re-weld and the whole gun cost me $300 including the suppressor that I designed myself. >>6562166732, 22, 9x18, 380>>65622094Well it looks cool as fuck at least
>>65622199>There's a metal 3-pos one coming out soonSnazzy, they got a site?
>>65622057Thanks anon
>>65621661Don't listen to the other anon.If you have the full-size AP5, don't change a damn thing. It will not function properly with the FRT. I've been down this road with mine. I bought the other locking piece in preparation for use with a FRT because retards like him said so. Gun was a jam machine. Swapped the factory locking piece back in, everything worked. I shoot with and without a suppressor, also shooting 115gr, 124gr, and 147gr.Keep it as stock.The ONLY people who need to worry about switching the locking piece are those with the K (AP5P) version. The k models are the ones that everyone has issues with and damaging their guns.
>>65621372I've shot the MKE, PTR, and I have the SP5 now. And I will say, there is not functional difference unless you really want to just flex on people.
>>65622398>swaps locking piece >doesn't check bolt gap>blames others for their own stupiditykek such is quality of /k/ posters these days
>>65621372Ironically, the AP5 is closer to the original design than the SP5.
>>65622454Bolt gap was within limits with both pieces. I wouldn't be dumb enough to try shooting it without checking.The fact is, the damage issues are prominent with the K version. There's no reason to fuck with the full size.
Anyone try the Springfield Kuna? Was considering is since I want another roller delayed.
>>65622457How so?
>>65622467The SP5 was specifically designed as a semi-auto. Complete with the cuckshelf.The AP5 was more of a US market conversion of a production submachine gun.
I'm probably a faggot for this, and loving dick, but man I kind of want that meme of the month CAR-15 SD in 9mm from last year
>>65622467The AP5 literally has a full auto trigger pack in it. They take machine guns off the police production line, clip the tip of the auto trip, and braze in a couple blocking tabs
>>65621710I wanted badly to buy a vector until I shot a suppressed .45 w/FRT as a leftie. Absolutely the worst. The gas dumped straight into my fucking face. Like it was designed to.Fuck, I'd rather chainsaw left handed than shoot that thing.
>>65621401Even without rewelding you could probably build one on a tortort for close to that
>>65622467They made the SP5 unable to accept original MP5 trigger packs. That's what the other anon was talking about with the cuck shelf.
>>65622510How is that legal if you could just swap in an mp5 full auto bolt and trigger pack without modification? Wasn't nfa compliance the whole reason they had to put the shelf there in the first place?
>>65622517There's a couple tabs MKE added to prevent full auto part functionality. I haven't looked into how easy it would be to convert them, but they met the minimum requirement for the ATF.
>>65622467The SP5 has all sorts of alterations made to it, to the point it's down an entire pin and has gay warning label bullshit. You're paying top-shelf prices for the single most cucked MP5 offering there is.
>>65622541Lol this might as well be the honor system kek
>>65622094>It light strikes constantly...did you try it with more than one ammo? Could be the ammo.
>>65622035A crude mockery of perfection.
>>65622094That thing is fuckin tits m8
Used a mp38 stock with a little sanding and it fits and functions perfectly
>>65622801I like m11s, the purpose of this project was to design something that could be made entirely from things shipped to your door. Upper and lower are non ffl items and the pieces to be joined to gether can be ordered from a print/cutting farm without raising any flags.
>>65622478Kinda looks cool. Would be better looking with a Colt 607 style stock, though, IMO. I don't understand why the MP5SD silencer look got copied onto mostly ARs suddenly but I think it'd look more coherent this way.
Wood stock fucks on Uzi.
>>65622763I did, I bought 2 different brands and I tried a third one that I borrowed a couple rounds of from someone at the range, cause I figured it might like some kind more than another. It's absolutely the guns fault.At first I assumed the inaccuracy is my problem too, cause I've never shot anything open bolt so I assumed it's just the forward travel of the bolt throwing off my aim. The instructor there was curious though so he gave me his uzi to try out and I put 5 rounds nearly in the same hole, so that's also definitely the guns fault.
>>65623489How does it fuck it up? Uzis have a buffer tube back there or something?
I'm looking for a PCC for home defense. Literally just something in 9mm I can slap a light and can on. Preferably an mp5 clone but I'm open to others if they're cheaper but still high build quality. Thanks in advance!
>>65623504uzi's have buttholes that the wooden stock docks into and the folders have a lil plug that it screws into
>>65623567AP5 / SP5.> those are too expensive!Sub2K. > Ew, KelTecM&P FPC. > Ew, closed-off hardwarePSA AR9.> Ew, PSAJust google it.
>>65623677Is the AP5 the best option if I want to one day drop an FRT in it? Or is the MKE the better option?
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>>65621289Important question, is there such a thing as a PPSH FRT with a hellacious ROF either out there or in the works? Would be pretty neat for a garbage rod special
If I buy an Ap5 navy, are there any parts I should swap out for Hk made ones?Seems like I heard something about this before.
>>65621661AP5s are turk roller guns so don't listen to either of those other retards. The correct answer is "it depends". As far as ammo goes it's typical MP5 advice. If you don't go over 147gr and don't have pre-existing issues with the gun then you shouldn't need to worry about grain weight. 124gr is typically the most reliable in AP5s, 147s are frequently flat noses and can cause feed issues. Mine dislikes some but will feed others with a narrower meplat fine. As far as locking piece goes the standard AP5 locking piece is at a higher degree than the standard MP5 LP(100degree). This may cause issues or may not depending on the gun. Mine was running way too hard with the stock rollers and locking piece, both needed changed for proper function regardless of FRT use or not. Yours may be fine. If you plan to run suppressed and yours is running fine then you may consider dropping down to the 100 degree but I'd run it stock at first and check your ROF and brass. Shoot for around 800 or 850RPM, check that your brass isn't getting absolutely mauled by your ejection port, check that your ejection is consistent but not overly strong. Locking pieces are only $40 bucks so it might be a good idea to grab a 100 degree one and give it a try, just remember to check your bolt gap again after swapping it out and before shooting the thing.There is no one size fits all answer for roller guns, let alone turkshit roller guns, each one needs to be treated as an individual.
>>65623504holy boomerwhen some says "this fucks," that means: "cool"
>>65623785right, so when someone says "Epstien fucks children" that means it's cool? Sure thing pedo>>65623776good info
>>65623776This would have been more applicable to the first guns that came into the US before MKE implemented their revisions.Their manufacturing has improved significantly. All the stuff people complain about on older forum posts don't really apply anymore.t. Owned one of the first AP5s and purchased another last year
>>65624038It’s a reference to the show Silicon Valley that was adopted into the lexicon. It only works when you don’t specify what or who is being fucked.
>>65624038>millennial pretending to not know slang just to seem more adult
What's up gamers!
>>65624292Dual wield thoes
>>65624292>does what a purpose-built PCC does, except worse in every possible way
Straight people use colt pattern mags in their AR9Glock mags are for flaming homosexuals
>>65624292That is cool as shit dude.
>>65624292Waiting on those stocks to come back in stock to build another flux. Off thread but there's a kit for the halo 2 shotgun
>>65624416Thanks man. >65624374is a no fun allowed faggot. He must be absolutely miserable lmao
>>65624450I want one but they're $$$
>Not bad25yds, standing, shooting like a pistol
>>65621310I am considering going for an mke ap5p or maybe ap5. I also want a beretta cx4.
>>65622812Is this printed?
