The best infantry firearm of WW2. And it was made by the Italians.
>>65619104>infantry firearmif you had settled on SMG, you might have kept your dignity, people might even have agreed with youbut you expanded the definition to include the M2 browning, so you are now wrong
>>65619110The MG42 was a better machine gun than the M2
>>65619124only if you are dumb
>>65619104Boyo...some real mental illness hours tonight.
>>65619124How many Japanese aircraft did 7.92 take down then smart guy?
>>65619104>best infantry firearm of WW2
>>65619130Same OP is cross-posting topics (not just this one) at /pol/rn
>>65619110>>65619167Let's keep it man portable>KP31>Owen>M2 carbine>M1 Garand>Stg44 Yes, I know they have a short lifespan>Zb 26/Bren/Type 97>MG42
>>65619186Even discussing individual weapons and crew serves is inappropriate
>>65619186You've gotta be crazy listing the Suomi higher than the Beretta. The Suomi was a good gun, but heavy and not as accurate.
>>65619195Lift some weights or get a 44 then. I wanted to say MP18/28 or Lanchester but I thought that might be stretching the timeline a bit much, even if they were used.>TEN POUNDS OF WOOD, STEEL, BRASS, AND LEAD
>best SMG of WW2That would be the Orița Md. 1941/48
>>65619110Mid2 Browning loses to the DShK because the mounting options for the latter are far better>>65619206>TEN POUNDS OF WOOD, STEEL, BRASS, AND LEADif that's your criteria then the MP34 is the best and it's not even close
>>65619298>Mid2 Browning loses to the DShKjust like that, you have no ethos
>>65619304and (You) have no AA mount worth a shit, owned
>>65619104I prefer the M3.
best ww2 firearm is the garand.
>>65619104>left hand ejectyeah I'm thinking based, total normalfag death
>>65619470its a mirrored image, the MAB38 was conventional, the Bergmann MP35/i was left-hand eject but right-hand charging
>>65619298>Mid2 Browning loses to the DShKloses the "unaccurate short-lived communist piece of shit" competition, maybe
>>65620286>short-livedDhsk is almost as old m2 m8
>>65620680>DhskDShK>drunk
>>65619124Kek, Lol, No.
>>65620680dshk is trashed after a minute of firing which is why it was discarded by every military that didn't get it as part of a tank after ww2.
>>65620705That's wrong though
>>65620705>>65622131every military that could afford to.
>>65622141>Ukraine: Also produces a variant with a bipod and large muzzle brake for infantry usage.[35][53They are still being made anon. I'm sorry but I do not think you are correct
>>65619104It's easily the best SMA and arguably the best individual small arm.
>>65619293>Orița Md. 1941/48>best SMG of WW2>suggests a gun that didn't exist until 1948....I think you mean the Orița Md. 1941Thing looks long as fuck.
>>65620286>>65620705>>65622141fun fact, the phrase "drop a deuce" originally stemmed from the M2 Brownigger being a boat anchor-sized piece of shit.>inb4 proofs????I made it up, just like your DShK """"facts"""".
>>65622886least deranged zigger dilation
>>65622149>hurr durr they have a dozen rusting in stock after being pulled down from an equally rusty T-54admit it, it's a total piece of shit compared to any gun, let alone M2 which might as well be a pace blaster in comparison
>>65619104>mauser makes guns for evil nazi incel chud adolf trumpler regime and gets dissolved>every japanese armament manufacturer dissolved for same reason>italian ones allowed to continue because uh just cuz
>>65622947>I-I'm not mad, you're mad!!!I always assume anyone sperging out over trannies perpetually dreams of smoking a nice fat pole at any given moment, because I don't see any other reason why you'd suffer thinking about them to begin with.>>65622960>more Wattpad fanfictiondid an DShK screw your pops or something?
>>65622960Where on the doll did the perfectly functional dshk touch you?
>>65619104>The best infantry firearm of WW2Stg44 beats it easily.
>>65624704>easilyit beats the Beretta 38, although not sure if it's best of WWII overallCertainly the most groundbreaking and innovative infantry small arm of the war (being a new concept and design, it was flawed in some aspects)
>>65619186>>Stg44 Yes, I know they have a short lifespanThey were actually really rugged.Modern examples usually aren't, but that's because they're 80 years old.The link's a translation of troop trials that confirm that.https://pastebin.com/sxdPeheK
>>65619104Gee, Billy, two triggers?
>>65624708>although not sure if it's best of WWII overallIs there literally any other infantry rifle you'd rather go to war with, either back then or today?>Certainly the most groundbreaking and innovative infantry small arm of the war I think it wins even if we ignore that, based on its merits and performance alone.>(being a new concept and design, it was flawed in some aspects)Like what? Sometimes people bring up supposed reliability issues, but the only real one there was about the stocks seizing on the springs if humidity got in there for too long in early versions. And the easy fix, both in production once it was noticed and in the field, was to simply bore out the relevant hole a tiny bit.It was reliable, perfect for CQC, had all the range you could realistically use on the battlefield and it was (and is) very pleasant to shoot.
>>65624704Nah. Go look how the thing is head spaced
>>65624716Try shooting one before talking shit.
>>65624364>zero cooling and a fixed barrel HMG>perfectly functionallol, lmaso even
>>65619104>The best infantry firearm of WW2Sakkijavren Polkas your way
>>65619195How much accuracy do you need out of an smg? The Suomi smokes targets from 150m and is still effective up to 200m.
>>65624715The only infantry weapon that could give the Stg 44 a run for it's money in WWII in the Garand, IMHO.
>>65625067I feel like I wouldn't hesitate to choose the stg44 in over 90% of the scenarios encountered in WWII. Whether you're maneuvering, covering or trying to kill somebody. The stg44 is going to make your life a lot easier. Being able to use less men for more effective suppressive fire also means that you get anywhere you need to be much faster when lead flies.
>>65625083M1 in 30-06 would be vastly more effective at laying suppressive fire than an stg with two or three mags they germans were issuing.
so, what if the US raised a carbine platoon, where every rifleman had an M2 carbine and every machine gunner got the M1919A6 instead of the A4?and every rifle battalion got 1 of these platoons for assaulting enemy positions
>>65625067M1 and M2 carbine isn't far off.
>>65625257the M2 carbine is maybe the only "heavy" SMG ever madeit was treated as an SMG by the US army, but it had the firepower of .357 fired out a long barrel which puts most other SMGs to shame
>>65624715>brainlet fedoratip textwall the StG 44 (not the rifle itself, the 92-33 kurz cartridge<---weakest link) was an unproven concept, that was rushed into development. The rifle was heavy weight. It was an innovative idea (yes in later decades would prove in other cartridges-rifle designs to be ideal for infantry). It was not thoroughly proven and only saw service during final two years of Germany's war by which time they had far far FAR larger problems (shitty manufacturing QC and lack of mineral raw materials after 1942 barely scratch the surface of those) than 'what small arm to give / is best for infantry'.It wasn't a fully realized combat tool by May 1945. By May 1970, the """""""""""""intermediate"""""""""""" cartridge infantry rifle is seen to be a fully realized tool.
>>65625268>the M2 carbine is maybe the only "heavy" SMG ever madeinb4 anon discovers that M2 is lighter than every ww2 smg.
>>65625339heavy in terms of powermost SMGs fired 9mm or .45 if they were american.30carbine has the same punch as .357 magnumonly a few 10mm and .357sig SMGs are really in the same league as it, and those are pretty rare and only came in decades after
