They are nuking their best products. Are they going to make only 10/22s???
>>65601364literally nobody bought those
>>65601364>All the revolversFuddslop>1911Everyone else makes one>LC/PC charger/carbineUsed to be good but pistol chassis is the new PCC meta>No 1, 77, hawkeyeHunters are all trailer trash poorfags and never bought them
>>65601364>revolversSold more in pawn shops than new, you wont notice a single difference>all those NFA cope """pistols"""why keep manufacturing braced pistols or stockless SBRS when you can finally uncuck your supply line and make real gunsand seriously who the fuck actually bought a Vaquero
>>65601364>Are they going to make only 10/22s?They are keeping their AR-15, RXM (Glock clone) 10/22, Ruger Wrangler, 5.7 pistol, and possibly some other things I don't remember.
>>65601364Shareholder value must go up so they can report even more profit this year. If they don't profitmaxx and make line go up that means their company is dead, even if it means gutting themselves in the process. I'll bet dollars to donuts they wanted to axe the mini and the 10/22 and only push strikerslop but it's only thanks to cuckstates and the canucks that they're allowed to live (for now)
>>65601443The "cope pistols" are pccs which Ruger was genuinely good at and you could always just slap a stock on if you wanted. Getting rid of these doesn't have anything to do with this court decision.
>>65601364>their best productsObviously not. Are you retarded as well as autistic?
>>65601450youre a virgin
>>65601465The SP101 and ghe GP100 are iconic revolvers.The PC Charger and the PC Carbine are the PCCs that started the PCC fashion, the SR1911 is a 1911, how are those no great guns?
>>65601364What about the lcrx
>>65601503Because in the face of their competition so few people were buying them that they are now being discontinued. Why do you need this spelled out to you like a toddler? You act like they're doing it to spite YOU, specifically, the gunless autist on the internet.
>>65601364Few people wanted the revolvers nor the hunting rifles and if they did, used gun stores are full of high quality used-once examples. For the PCC stuff it probably wasn't worth maintaining the product and marketing it in the ban states because nobody was buying that junk in the free states.
>>65601503>ruger revolvers>iconicanon i...
>>65601534What competition?
>>65601549>anon i….’m retardedFtfy.
>>65601503>SR1911Who is buying this when $300 Tisas exist. Your average Rooger customer is a cheapass.
>>65601556if it's not a python, model 29, or SAA nobody gives a fuck, that simple
>>65601569I had one. I'd say it was better made than the colt I currently have, the fit was way better, and I personally thought the finish was nicer. The trigger on the Ruger was also a lot nicer with a better break, and the colt has a lot of slop on the top and bottom where it wiggles when the Ruger had none.
>>65601364the only ones of those im surprised about are the lrc. and to a lesser extent gp100. mostly cause i thought the lcr was doing good and theres nothing to replace the gp100.
>>65601364Boomers are dying and revolvers will mostly die with them.Sure a few will stick around but they are the smart thing to end production of first.>inb4 Ruger is acquired before the end of next year
>first 3 posts obvious bait spamRussian bots didn't stay down long enough
>>65601449Mini 14, im surprised they didnt kill it but then I remembered they sell them to other countries police like France for example.
>>65601364line UP
>>65601694you weren't buying them doe
>>65601457>court decision.Are you in the right thread? We are talking about Ruger announcing that they are closing some production lines. No court decisions at all.>>65601694>I would 100% support restricting gun rights for anyone who didn't own a gun before 2020.Awful idea. In the short term it'd keep some undersirables from buying guns; however, in the long term, with no new gun owners, the number of anti-gun advocates would sharply rise within 20-40 years.
>>65601585No.
>>65601721The 2nd amendment is not absolute
>>65601721Sorry I thought you were saying why would anyone buy a "cope pistol" because with the decision you can put a stock on anything. I was saying whatever the final configuration may be there's still a market for pistol caliber rifles, and it's one of the things Ruger does well that others don't.
>>65601734>I was saying whatever the final configuration may be there's still a market for pistol caliber riflesOh okay, now I get what you were telling the other guy. I read "court decision" and was confused, but it makes sense based on the message you were replying to.
>>65601694This is a spam post copied and pasted directly from the handgun general.
>>65601760Uh huh. Is this Boogeyman in the room with us now?
>>65601585Their big boy revolvers are overbuilt and plenty iconic. But, maybe not as much as a python, saa or the older smiths. I think a lot of people who buy the gps and sps like them and keep them. I never see them on the secondary market and a lot of people on here who own them say they inherited them. Really if you want to know which guns are best look for what you dont see for sale used. Those are guns that people arent parting with after buying new.
>>65601719>doeI was. You weren't old enough to. Maybe you still aren't.
>>65601364>no more Ruger No. 1are you fucking shitting me? they didn't change the cartridge options for YEARS, like since the 2010s. tfw no 45-70 No.1 >:( im mad but also not bc fuk ruger i dont want their dumb guns
>>65602287This.getting rid of the No. 1 and Redhawk revolvers?is the OP picrel a troll-joke
I really hope they're just going to rebrand the revolvers to Marlin
>>65601364Beretta
>>65602886This, beretta has been attempting to take over ruger for a few years now, my guess is that they paid off all the big youtubers to not talk about it so most people have no clue it's even happening.
>>65601443>>revolvers>Sold more in pawn shops than new,this really is the big one. revolvers simply last a long time, especially if fed primarily .38spc and ruger revolvers are dummy thicc so the last especially long.
>mini-14 isn't going out of productionwho even buys them these days?
>>65601364>Ruger stopping production of all these models>Beretta really trying to get more shares of Ruger>Savage bought by S&W>Aguila building a new manufacturing plant...oops no components and sorry we suspended production of specialized 22 loads until that plant is completeEverything is totally going good guize. Also can we at least have the non-gay Savage logo back now?>>65603077I kinda want the Mini-.300 but IIRC the drop for subs isn't much better than 9mm to the point I question my wants.
>>65601475I pray you don't vote.
>>65601465>>65601534>>65601549>Just be exactly like every other company.Truly geniuses of business.
>>65601585You know nothing and the lazy manner in which you type tells me all I need to know about your character.
>>65601364Makes sense as revolvers make 0 dollars and 0 cents unless it's colt of S&W. Plus the Rxm taking off and Beretta taking over has to factor in
>>65603387>but IIRC the drop for subs isn't much better than 9mm to the point I question my wantsThink about the difference in bullet weight though, that .300 will hit with quite a lot of thud
>>65601569Not only that, but literally every other company has stepped up on 1911/2011 while ruger did nothing. Why get that when kimber has a 2011 at the same price, or a S&W which is just an upgraded ruger at a slight increase?
>>65602886Beretta only owns like 25% of the company and only has like 3 seats on the 12 seat board. Also if they knew any better Beretta would integrate themselves more with Ruger and basically do a Beretta branded RXM that's fully parts compatible. This is likely due to them overhauling their production lines so expect to see some of these products come back with some kind of improvement or being made obsolete like the PCCs likely being replaced by an RXM PDW chassis. It could also be normal retarded corporate greed of some unqualified numbersfag not understanding that all these random products that don't sell super well at least ensure Ruger's brand dominance across the entire industry and trying to get rid of them to make line go up
>>65603059>my guess is nobody (I happened to watch the video of) mentioned this almost irrelevant fact, therefore they all must be paid to not mention itAnd you wonder why people laugh at you
>>65603393I highly doubt women post here
>>65603434But men who argue like women do
>>65603432What a strange post? What's your point anon, or are ya just trollin
>>65603438We call the foreign
>>65603486The point is that the claim he or you made was mentally retarded
>>65603069>Have S&W Model 19 Classic>Mostly shoot .38 out of it because it's cheaperHot damn I'm gonna have that thing forever.
>>65603422>Beretta branded RXM that's fully parts compatibleJust do a better polymer framed 92
>>65603414It will, but at the least it's also a question of ammo cost. A few loads of .300 matched trajectory pretty close with similar sub/super loads of 22WMR and 9mm which I don't particularly think of as super flat shooting. Having a dedicated and handy 22LR hunting rifle (silenced) and .223 hunting rifle (20", soon to be silenced), I'm struggling to find a good enough use case for .300 when costs for that ammo IIRC are nearing .223 hunting ammo. Not to mention .223/5.56 costs are rising again. I'll end up getting a Mini-30 in .300 and probably SBRing it but probably not before buying an MP5 considering bulk 9mm and 22WMR prices are about even at almost half of 223/5.56 prices. Also I'm wondering if, even on the largest game I'd probably be able to use it on, a coyote, I'd see much difference from 9mm defensive loads vs a .300 hunting load. Not to mention having to add "and not fuck up the hide even more". It's a neat gun and I'm likely to buy one in the next 5-10 years, but I wonder if it will actually fill a niche sometimes. The A-TM stock combined with SBRing it and silencing it will certainly be a lot handier than my 20" .223 though.
>>65603496Fair enough, nail on the head, am I wrong though?
>>65601364In a perfect world they'll introduce a CZ75 copy with a steel frame but this is not a perfect world.
>>65603491>ESLspeakpalpatineironic.gif
>>65603422>expect to see some of these products come back with some kind of improvementMan I wish I was this naive.
>>65601364Nothing is confirmed, but the way they talked about it, it's implied that they are going to bring more revolvers back for around 2030, be it the same designs, with updated manufacturing or/and designs, or optionally replacing some with new designs.That COULD be just trying to ease customer's minds, but consider that they once discontinued the Mini-14 for a while to then bring out an improved and updated one later. The Security Six and Speed Six revolvers were very popular, so popular you can still find them used for pretty reasonable prices, but Ruger discontinued them and replaced them with the GP100 design. Perhaps the GP100 is getting replaced.We'll see.>65601370>65601428Very low quality posts.>>65601443>Sold more in pawn shops than newWhere are you hearing this?>NFA cope """pistols"""Now they can just put stocks and VFGs on them out of the box. Well, I guess cuckstates would still need the braced ones. I guess we'll see if they'll come back in 4 years.>>65601682If anything, that it's staying in production can imply that the Mini-14 isn't important enough to revamp (again), so they just keep current production going. It doesn't seem as popular these days.
How’s Taurus for ‘vulvas these days? Sad that I won’t be able to make a Blade Runner LCR in the future
>>65605591Nice gun.
>>65605591for some reason, this stirs my "Film noir detective" vibes. It does have some colt detective special-ish to it. Which is not a bad thing. Also, it's harder and harder to find images about film noir detectives with revolvers without running into some AI slop. I hate that shit.
>>65605601Ain't it just? If Ruger actually will replace or update the GP100, I really wouldn't mind seeing something with a half-lug and spherical recoil shields like the old Sixes, I think it looks very pretty. Perhaps as a variant model.>>65605652Those kinds of guns were typically Colts and Smiths in .38 Special, so I feel it's kind of distinct from that.
>>65605596ok/10. triggers are crunchy but not the disgusting ratchety feel of GPs at least.
>>65601465They sell very well, yes.>>65601503>The SP101 and the GP100 are iconic revolversI'd say the Blackhawks and Redhawks are more iconic, but they certainly aren't lacking for popularity.>The PC Charger and the PC Carbine are the PCCs that started the PCC fashionThat's not really true. Good carbines, but not true.>>65601569>but bro, you can buy a dirt cheap and rough foreign one insteadSome people are interested in something nicer.
>>65604199How about just a DA/SA alloy frame for their 1911 slides? It takes double-stack mags.
>>65601364They're not going to junk the plant or tooling. It's either clapped out or the market is saturated. If there's any demand they'll be back once they're done doing whatever is more important right now.
I don't understand this, they're killing off what makes ruger ruger, and keeping their same clones that everyone else makes? Company must be doing real bad to pull a stunt like this, I doubt they'll survive but who knows
>>65606135See >>65605921 and >>65605591
>>65602781If bud dwyer was a cat
>>65601364Nobody buys the 7 different cowboy grip revolvers.Nobody buys the upmarked mid rifles.Nobody buys Glock magazine carbines.Nobody buys the 1911 clone that offers no improvement from the original. That's the truth. Rugar will do fine. They don't need to cater to everyone that won't buy if their current catalog only offers little return. In fact it will hopefully reduce the cost of the current products that matter or reduce the loss from products unsold. That's basic business.
>>65606922>In fact it will hopefully reduce the cost of the current productslmao
>>65606939He said cost, not price.
>>65601364>overpriced Hi-points, boomer cowboy event guns and again overpriced slot filler deer riflesIts rationalization OP
>>65601364There are a lot of theories but the leading one to me is>Ruger over extended itself acquiring Marlin/Anderson/etc>Beretta swooped in buying up their stocks and is aggressively trying to take over>Gun market in general is down a bit except for bump in former NFA items which Ruger doesn't make >Now Ruger has to either cut costs or sell stocks>But if they sell any more stocks, Beretta will take them over >So they have to cut all products that cost money to make and therefore have high retail cost/low turnover Cheap shit sells right now but it's the ONLY shit that sells. Average Edgar isn't going to buy an $800 GP-100 when a Taurus is half that price.>>65601370They did have a market with their revolvers but it's entirely plausible that there just weren't enough sales to make it worthwhile. Cutting all their revolvers other than the Wrangler might even allow them to mothball an entire factory, which would save them a ton of money. Restarting production after laying off everyone who had been building them for years is going to suck though. At least if that's what they are doing.>>65606922The PC did have a market in ban states because of it's featureless configuration, but at least the Mini-14 survived this round of cuts somehow. Californians will have to cope with that.
>>65607430>but at least the Mini-14 survived this round of cuts somehowWood stock makes it a "hunting" gun qnd not one of those scary black ones
The Ruger GP revolver series are expensive as fuck for what they are, a do-nothing-better-than-smith&wesson cast piece of shit. And you think because these are cast, that they would be cheaper? WRONG. Personally, I never wanted to roll the dice on buying one due to the 50/50 chance of needing to RMA it because of bad timing/lockup due to Ruger not QCing this stuff. And as was mentioned by some other anons in this thread, you can get barely used Ruger revolvers for cheap on auction sights, no need to buy new.
>>65601364All of the current mainstream revolvers are trash, until you go into the boutique $4k guns.I just bought a Colt Anaconda 44 magnum with the 4.25" barrel. I wanted a new hunting/hiking sidearm.The trigger return is fucked and gets stuck 90% of the time and the sights are plastic garbage. I had to send it back to Colt to get a better trigger return spring. I also had to buy rear and front sights from Wilson Combat.The only reason I bought the Colt is because the new S&W 629 and 629 mountain guns are even bigger pieces of garbage than the Colts. At least the new Colts are heavy-duty, with good timing, smooth triggers and very tight cylinder locks (when the trigger is pulled), with great finishes. The new S&W even have garbage finishes, terrible cylinder gaps, weaker forcing cones and still have the Hillary Holes that CAN lockup when shooting hot 44 magnum loads.I've never shot a ruger red/blackhawk, so idk about them.
I kind of wanted a 9mm LCR. I figure with moon clips, it would really confuse a forensics expert why the bullet is 9mm but there are no casings.
>>65607999>trips>anon caps a Guatemalan stealing his tools
>>65606922False and conjectural.>>65607430Better guesses, though Ruger bought Marlin for I think $27M from Remington's bankruptcy, and quite some time ago, so I don't know that they're the biggest factor.
>>65607445It's not so much the wood as the traditional shape of the stock. The PC Carbine benefitted from the same configuration so it's an excellent ban state PCC. This also helps a lot because the same states frequently have few ranges that have strict caliber restrictions, particularly indoor ranges that are pistol caliber only. PCs are also much cheaper than Mini-14s so I don't see why they axed it. Perhaps just not "cool" enough to compete with $3000+ MP5 clones.>>65607616>>65607967Rugers revolvers are never refined or particularly smooth but they are notably solid for what they are. The proliferation of cheap used ones is a testament to their build quality. QC can be spotty, but still better batting average than S&W or Colt.>>65607999Charter Arms have a 9mm that doesn't use moon clips.
>>65608791I'd wager the PC got axed because of stuff like the Sub2K, the S+W clone, and possibly lower sales because it wasn't an AR-pattern carbine which means less "build-a-brick" and more proprietary parts. I'm currently in the process of assembling a parts list for an AR9 and every day all i hear is "just get a Sub2K" and I want to strangle them.
>>65607967>All of the current mainstream revolvers are trash, until you go into the boutique $4k guns.No kidding. I wouldn't buy anything made after the scamdemic under any circumstances. QC at most companies was slipping for a long time before but that sent it straight down the toilet.
>>65607430Their stock gained ~25% after the announcement, but has fallen back to almost normal.
>>65607967>talks about how his Colt sucks then extols the quality of Colts to shit on SmithMerely pretending
>>65608791>>65608889>>65608988My Colt is genuinely a very nice gun. Everything about it was perfect EXCEPT those two things, which I knew were going to be an issue since I did research beforehand.Changing out the sights and getting a better return spring is annoying, but the rest of the gun is solid. I'll take that over literal cracks in the frame and/or forcing cone, burrs, an out of time cylinder and a Hillary Hole.
>>65609221>literal cracks in the frame and/or forcing cone, burrs, an out of time cylinder and a Hillary HoleOh shit, 15 year old memes are still getting air time
Beretta did this
>>65601450They would never stop making the 10/22. It's THE .22lr rifle, essentially. That's like saying they'd stop pushing the MkIV before they have a MkV to replace it.
>>65609221>an out of time cylinderIt was Colt's revolvers that had this problem (before being bought out by CZ), not S&W.
>mfw I own a GP100 and I missed out on getting a SP101
>>65601364>revolversSad kinda wanted an sp101>chargers and carbinesCarbines are heavy as balls and the chargers were meh other stuff does it better for cheaper also takes glawk mags>mark 1Crap I wanted one just figured I had more time to get one cheap..>1911Meeeh ok? Other stuff is cheaper and as long as you don’t get turkish it’s fine
>>65601364Something tells me it's time to reinvest in new tooling and they decided rebuilding those production lines (in part or in whole) was not an intelligent business decision.
>>65609429>>65609466I snagged an SP101 when they finally dropped down to $600. It was still painful since I remember when they were $450 NIB but damn am I glad that I pulled the trigger. According to gundeals you can still find them for that price but they're rapidly going out of stock.
Revolvers last a very long time and are less popular than semiautomatics. The market for them is oversaturated. The PCC is going the way of the Scout rifle now that SBRs are on the table. Hopefully they can take this opportunity to cook up some cool new ideas. If we’re honest they were kind of turning into the Harley Davidson of guns.
>>65601364>Why?they don't sell enough and want to concentrate on their core products. they're guns, not funkopops. people don't need to buy the same gun over and over. they're durable goods
>>65601450why would they drop the 10/22? isn't that the best selling .22lr?
>>65609429My dude my heart is broken wtf is going on in this world when ruger drops revolvers? Now I have to hunt for the lipsey half lug gp100s one in 327 and one in 357. And a single seven In 327. I put it off because of all the bullshit I've seen in the gun world I never ever thought this would happen.. ever.. it would be like springfeild armory quit 1911's out of the blue. Now I get to over pay on gun broker
>>65601364pc charger bros :(
>>65601503LCR is the only one that is iconic because of the silhouette the rest are too generic
>>65601364 is the no. 1 any good
>>65606135Those "clones" sell very well, and at least in the case of the RXM it does so because it's such a solid pistol for what it is >but it's just a Glock clone!Yes, a very good Glock clone that improves a lot of stuff on the Glock, is cheaper than a Glock, and has a ton of parts compatibility with the Glock. It's a better gen 6 than gen 6 is. I'd really like to see how many Ruger has sold so far, I bet it's a ton
>>65608988Genuinely the IQ of this stupid board drops every fucking day holy shit expressing two separate opinions in a single post is a death sentence for understanding here
>>65609272How and why would they do this? It does not benefit them at all to drop millions of dollars trying to buy a company only to crash it. Fuck you guys respond to things like children it's unreal
>>65608791>PCs are also much cheaper than Mini-14s so I don't see why they axed it. Maybe they really will bring it back later?
>>65610536HAHAHAHAHAHAAnd maybe all the fathers that went out for milk and cigarettes will still come home
>>65610501>>65608988 is a retard.
>>65601675why the fuck would russians be posting about ruger sales, yuronogunz?
>>65601724come and take it, yurotranny>>65601721>No court decisions at all.they/them is referring to the court rulings on the NFA stuff. cuckbrace gun sales will likely fall as long as companies can sell SBRs without NFA paperwork
>>65601364Great! Now I can sell my Bearcat Shopkeeper to a larping cowboy mega boomer for $1000!
>>65610446For a single shot? Sure.
>>65605689>Some people are interested in something nicer.Then don't buy a 1911.
>>65610998They're genuinely furious the entire board isn't exclusively dedicated to them and their faggy boring little war>ooooh we don't have starlink today, can't fight D':
>>65602287>>65602720same, that's the only gun I'm annoyed they are getting rid of, even though I have no reason to buy one since I live in a shotgun only hunting cuck state>>65611041we really need a board split. /k/ for private gun ownership and some other board for yurotranny war tourism bullshit
>>65601364Millennials and Zoomers are too much of a pussy to handle .357 Magnum, let alone .44 Magnum, so Ruger has to make more polymer 9mm handguns since that's the only handgun that sells.
>>65611105They also categorically refuse to buy non-military/police calibers
>>65609429I got one from a pawn shop for $400. Its weight gives it nice recoil management.
>>65611010Did you diy those grips anon? I want to learn how to for some guns I have
>>65607967>All of the current mainstream revolvers are trash, until you go into the boutique $4k guns>>65610965Yeah, ok, I'm the one that's wrong, you're clearly not just schizo babbling out of your ass
>>65611050>we really need a board split. /k/ for private gun ownership and some other board for yurotranny war tourism bullshitIt really belongs on /pol/. I havent seen a Ukraine thread that doesnt devolve into conscript gore footage and yurotrannies/brownoids malding about Drumph and israel.
>>65603077I think there are a decent number of brown third world countries like france, el salvador, australia and hunduras buying them for police shit but idk how many they are buying and if they still buy them
>>65611414Not him but here's some piece of irony in a currently running thread. According to them, everyone who doesn't want to cry about Russia all day lives in an echo chamber
>>65603387consolidation is gay. it's a natural result of capitalism or whatever you want to call what we have is. imo the gayest part is that new companies will be founded to replace the old ones, but the new companies are just going to sell ARs and polymer 9mmsI wouldn't be shocked if most of the hunting rifles become import guns like how a lot of .22lrs are made overseas
>>65609563>Revolvers last a very long timeNo they don't, revolvers are fragile as shit, drop one on a hard surface and it goes out of time, throw one in the mud and you now have a hand grenade
>>65611425>capitalism >but the new companies are just going to sell ARs and polymer 9mmsIt's a vicious cycle in that today's consoomers are demanding to have only those things, the market is merely providing what the post 2020 new gun owners want which is exclusively ARs and polymer striker fired 9mms.I blame vidya and fatherlessness for it
>>65603077Californians
>>65611447hunting has been on the rise over the last 5 years after dropping by like half since the 1970sbut how many hunting rifles do you need and it's not like hunting rifles need to be replaced very often>>65611414>>65611423the issue is that a certain fatso is a no gunz yuropoor and is fine with this shit on /k/ when it should be on /pol/. it's always so strange what is or isn't on topic or how it's basically impossible to get banned in an actual has guns thread because fatso never checks those threads
>>65603396>people buy product X>no one buys product Y>better sell product Y to no one
>>65603422it's probably>damn sales are down across the market because there isn't any major gun ban threat, tons of guns were sold in 2012, 2016 and 2020 and now the economy is kind of ass>better cut our lowest selling guns
>>65611503>because fatso never checks those threadsI feel euro anons are a lot more likely to mass report every post they don't like, in addition to that.
>>65605591>Well, I guess cuckstates would stilla lot of cuckstates have laws that were intended to ban tec 9s that now affect cuck braced guns. like if a state has an awb that's based on the 1994 federal awb, which a lot of them are, there's usually a weight limit and/or a ban on having a mag well that's separate from the grip. I think deagles technically fail the weight limit part so nearly every cuck brace gun is going to fail it
>>65611105>>65611134This is literally the correct reason.
>>65611134Of course. We need to be able to source ammo when the happening begins.
>>65611704>when the happening begins.Aka your murder fantasies
>>65611704You people had 50 chances over the last 20 years to begin a “happening” over worse things than the founding fathers fought a revolution over. If it hasn’t happened by now, it’s never going to.
>>65601503Springfield and now kimber ate their lunch in mid and lower mid 1911s. Pinoy and turk 1911s dominate the low end, and the 3 former are all grappling for corner cases therein.I can’t comment on revolvers because I’m not a revolver fag, but they seemed like great blastable guns if fucking ugly and sloppy. Normies and brokies are probably just buying macaco shit now rather than a ruger, and snobs will buy nu and old colts etc, if they didn’t already inherit them and their rugers (x1000% value (personal)The pdw cut were unironically great in category but aged.The could feel the need to tighten up all of the above, you’ll notice their cut items are all things that pay big dividends on the customer end if it’s reasonably doable to do so with whatever ruger is working with. The pccs are in the opposite direction, where they don’t need to be tightened, but seemingly are relatively easy to relaunch with the current year in mindYou’ll also notice it otherwise wasn’t cuts to the bad black handgun catalogue, largely. Which you can’t begrudge them is pretty gud either generally or specifically, and usually for their price points.The no1 is a tragedy. That lil nigga lives in my head rent free no cap. If it doesn’t return there will be a national izzat deficit until someone else brings it back.Thots and prayers.
>>65611797Exactly. At this point these fuckers have proven they'll put up with literally anything. They just (think they) want to kill people without having to commit to joining the military. Sick of everyone pretending it's not merely a desire to kill people like in an arcade shooter game. If they cared about the world, their religion, their people, their race, their country, they'd be doing something to improve it instead of mindlessly hoard more and more ammunition
Retroactive justice for Bill Ruger being a piece of shit.
>>65611820All this is doing is hurting the gun market, not some dead guy who died having gotten what he wanted, dumbass
>>65601682>Mini 14>police like France for example.Those "Mini-14s" are Mousqueton A.M.D. carbines, select-fire AC-556 variants.Only some of the parts of those were manufactured by Ruger, many other parts were made locally in France.The frogs still make GP100 clones that are significantly nicer and better built than the originals.
>>65609261I have a Springfield 1911 with a Hillary hole in the grip
>>65609563For the second time now, People buying pccs has nothing to do with sbring guns. People have always been able to sbr or brace either. People buy it for other perceived advantages like not over penetrating, using the same cheap ammo as their pistol, less recoil in a small package.
>>65611848>perceived advantages like not over penetratingI know you used the word perceived, but it's funny that people don't realize that a 9mm PCC will over pen more than an AR
>>65611848>>65611860Primary advantage of a 9mm over an AR is cheaper ammo and not blowing your eardrums out if you have to shoot indoors>inb4 .300BLK SBR with suppressorWay too much dough than the average dude is willing to spend for home defense use
>>65611889Careful, what you're saying is like the batman symbol in the sky to every unbalanced AR fanatic on this hemisphere
I swear I'm not a nigger but this looks pretty cool.
>>65611934I feel a profound sense of indifference
>>65611828Screw your "market," wheelguns and all the other fuddshit getting discontinued have been overpriced for years. They're so overpriced that the next generation were entirely priced out of the fudd market, and moved on to more reasonably priced, arguably more fun weapons.Bill Ruger wanted a fudd world where every civilian owned cucked mags, had no more than 50 rounds on hand at any moment, and threw up their arms in surrender at the first sight of a feddie boot looking to trample on god given rights. He wrote the rough draft for Clinton's '94 AWB and probably breathed a sigh of relief once it passed. If you weren't a cocksucking faggot who worshipped the oval office and the ass that sat in it, Bill Ruger hated you.Nowadays practically everyone in the country has gotten their hands on standard 30 rounders, either through freedom weeks/grandfathered mags, or by living in a free state. The NFA is dead, SBRs and suppressors are more plentiful every day. Bill Ruger is rolling in his grave, and his company is going to follow him. Good riddance, I hope the Italians squeeze them for everything they're worth then toss em like a used condom.
>>65612017>no one "needs" anything besides an ARYeah sure thing freak
>>65612017>>65612022Also, you type like a tranny
>>65605591I hope something like that's actually the case; Ruger no-bullshit permanently discontinuing everything they make that makes them stand out as a company from every other "AR, Glock clone, maybe one or two other things" company out there would be a decision so stupid only an MBA could make it.
>>65611934That finish only looks good on units that come out looking like an oil slick. That particular one just looks like a cosmetic blem simunition gun.
>>65611899Even if you're terminally ARfagged, a 9mm one is a great cheap training tool at distances where 5.56's external ballistics don't matter since the ammo is half the price, most of them are straight blowback so they end up having at least as much recoil as the real deal, and many of them are unreliable enough to give you plenty of practice diagnosing and clearing malfunctions that would happen way less frequently on a worthwhile 5.56 gun.
>>65612148I'm partial to this finish because I didn't get to buy one of pic related when it came out.
>>65612168That one's pretty good, yeah
>>65601364I have a pc chargerWonder what my gun store would offer for it after it’s discontinued
>>65612017Damn boomer, did Bill Ruger piss in your cereal one morning and you hold a grudge ever sense?
>>65612017Bill Ruger has been dead for fucking decades, they started selling big magazines as soon as was possible once he croaked.
>>65612224It's crazy that people are better at "never forgetting" some fag turbofudd than 9/11 and other dates that shall, allegedly, live in infamy
>>65612492That fag probably wasn't even born when Bill Ruger was alive
>>65612492Further, while I despise that part of Bill, I still think he was a pretty good designer.
>>65612848I think the 1873 and marlin 1894s are the best looking lever guns, but I'd be real tempted to get one of those .44 mag rugers over an 1894 if I lived in a place where people hunted with .44 mag
>>65612168I liked the Kimber one in amethyst but I’m indifferent to the blue
Insane, they're ending the GP100 and SP101? Why?
>>65603069>revolvers simply last a long timeTf does this even mean? It's not like Glocks and polymer guns realistically wear out other than $5 springs after 20,000 rounds.
>>65613824Most people who buy the big revolvers are crybaby booger bitches who can’t handle the recoil so they never go shoot them and they live in safes as perpetually brand new guns.
>>65613824>Steel object>Plastic object >"Why would one outlast the other???"Turn in your guns anon
>>65613730>ruger in heated "conflict" over ownership and shareholding with Beretta>Beretta going in for that hostile takeover>Ruger leadership knows they're going to get raped regardless of how much they bitch and protest>might as well profit from it>Ruger leadership announces that they'll discontinue everything>profit from short term panic sales>fire the wagies, sell off the production lines, tooling etc>stock tanks>Deathspiral.jpg>those in the know buy all the shares they can while the garbage-tier stocks are cheap>6 months later Beretta buys Ruger>Beretta announces that they'll bring back all the classics with improved quality control>Beretta has to pay for all the new machines and staff>garbage-tier Ruger stocks hoarded by Ruger leadership triple in value overnight>???????>profit
>>65613824Most people shooting revolvers are shooting .38 Special, which is a low pressure cartridgeLower pressure means less wear over time
>>65613836Steel objects will crumble into dust within a human lifetime or two if not properly cared for. Plastic objects will still be here thousands of years from now, whether we like it or not.
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>>65611836>better builtRuger fucking made the frames and parts lmao
>>65611446You should probably stop parroting shit that you have no fucking clue about.
>>65607430>Cheap shit sells right now but it's the ONLY shit that sells. Average Edgar isn't going to buy an $800 GP-100 when a Taurus is half that price.kek, truthIt's funny how much Edgar culture in general seems to be influencing consumer decisions
RIP nigga
>>65614419The raw castings, yes.Ruger didn't machine shit on these things.
>>65605591personal preference but that grip is hideous
>>65613880I'd rather they have stayed American owned.
>>65614804Not mine, just a random example. I think they're worth appreciating.The old Sixes shouldn't really be affected by panics given they've been out of production for decades already, so they'd be an option for someone wanting a Ruger revolver, they still go for about $500 on average. Speed Six has fixed sights, Security Six has adjustable, multiple barrel lengths, blued and stainless, most are in .357 Magnum but they did do some in 9mm Parabellum, and much more rarely, in .38 Smith & Wesson for Indian police contracts (don't know if all that many of those made it back).Overall solid revolvers, don't feed them any Buffalo Bore tier stuff though, they won't detonate, but they aren't built quite like the GP100 and Redhawks, it'll wear them out.
>>65601364>generic boomer double actions>generic non-clone correct single actions>generic 1911>generic hunting rifles>generic PCCshmm it's almost like all of these market segments are dead or dying, I wonder why they would discontinue them?
>>65615308>non-clone correct single actionsSo?
>>65615381"It's very important that my single-action .44 Magnum be able to P320 me if I don't load it in the historically correct manner" or somethingSome people out there think every single-action revolver's gotta be an SAA clone
>>65615634Period clones have their appeal, but being able to get a slightly better take on a classic revolver with adjustable sights, and in common modern calibers, just seems like it's an easier product to sell. They still let you use them for Cowboy Action anyway.
>>65615381only autists buy SAAs, and autists want clone correct
>>65615664Also the cylinder stop on the original SAA's being a leaf spring that was violently slammed sideways by the hammer every time the pistol was fired was a downright retarded design.They broke all the fucking time.That's just one example of a change implemented on modernized SA revolvers are objectively and inarguably significant improvement over the original design.
>>65615800Yeah, no.Even if someone released a truly 100% clone correct SAA, complete with components made of craptastic case-hardened wrought iron that makes even cheese-grade Chinesium look good by comparison, the autists would rather spend their money on an original antique.
>>65615381he probably hasn't shot a SAA before, "clone correct" ones with the plow handle grip are fucking atrocious if you're shooting modern calibers because it slams the trigger guard directly into your fingers. of course, ruger decided not to produce picrel in years despite being the ideal single action >elmer keith no 5 style grip>bisley hammer>stainless>target sightsmagnum research and freedom arms do this, why can't ruger? they can even make it a convertible 357/9mm to attract the rxm buyers who only stockpile cheap 124gr fmj
>>65615844There was speculation earlier in the thread that Ruger was discontinuing those lines in advance of a range refresh, so maybe the Bisley frame will be the default option for the *New* New Model Blackhawk
>>65615844Last SAA revolver I had was chambered in 9mm, and it was very cool and fun to shoot, but it was low quality and literally disassembled itself within 100 rounds. I had it warranty repaired but sold it immediately when I got it back. It would be nice if Ruger could make a 9mm SA revolver that I could rely on not to completely fall apart on me, but alas, they probably won't do that. RXMbro as well
>>65615800Oh please.>>65615844>"clone correct" ones with the plow handle grip are fucking atrocious if you're shooting modern calibers because it slams the trigger guard directly into your fingersIt's not that bad with a .44 Magnum. It IS brutal with .454 Casull though, I'll give you that.>the ideal single actionThe look and feel of the original plow grip makes me cum though. I'd really want that with a Bisley hammer and adjustable sights. Also you're forgetting muh hourglass cylinder axis pin.
They discontinue 77? I sure hope that doesn't include 77/357 just as suppressors become transferable.
>>65616621Hope is the root of all disappointment.
>>65616621>>65616626discontinuing a manual PCC when cans became unregulated seems like a weird choice. are they going to put out a ruger American in .300 blacked? do they already have one?
>>65616742"Yeah, we used to make a .44 Mag bolt-action that'd be a perfect fit for your one-size-fits-all .458 can, but…"
>>65615308>generic hunting riflesWho else makes falling block guns like the No. 1?
>>65616742Theyve had a 300 mini14 out for a bit now
Ruger actually does make some seriously good guns. However their leadership and working conditions and equipment are fucking atrocious, almost thirdie tier. Absolute fucking retard tier. Also no one was really buying the LC carbine and charger series for real. t. former wagie on several of their lines also a long time Ruger gun owner
>>65611801Is Kimber fully unfucked now?
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>>65619227Bass Pro has them for $550.
>>65619222I wouldn't say that, but they've slowly been getting better ever since Ron Cohen moved onto destroying SIG's reputation instead.
>>65619216No shit? Tell us about working there. What's up with the equipment? Any good stories?
The good times for gun manufacturers is ending. 2020 is going to be close to 7 years ago and even if dems take congress its still a Republican presidency which has been one of the most pro gun one's we've had in ages.
>>65619245I've been tempted on a few of their products lately but I can't shake the Jewish juju
>>65619227
>>656194422028 could be big, but again it's going to just be ARs, glock clones and maybe el cheapo shotguns
>>65619455I'm not clear on what's being sold here
Honestly I hope that mistake kills them, serves them right after what they did to Anderson.
>>65607430>Gun bump from former NFA items >Pause production of 3 of your most NFAable items Besides selling the charger right now as a 2 barrel removable folding stock combo, which they aren't, why kill their 9mm carbine right when they can sell an 8" charger barrel to every single owner of their takedown carbine. It doesn't make any sense.
>>65620688Idk why he replied to the other guy with thatwe were originally talking about NFA/suppressed guns so the one guy posted that they were still selling the el cheapo shit ruger American line in .300 blacked (and .350 legend) and for some reason the other guy replied by posting the even cheaper model/trim for the ruger American but in .30-06 with an unthreaded 22 inch barrel. none of which has anything to do with the >why aren't they releasing trapper (SBR) bolts and lever guns in easy to suppress cartridges with threaded muzzles so they can host a suppressor and be a very quiet and very shoot gun
>>65621688I was not aware this existed.Anyone know anything about .350 Legend in subsonic?
>>65601364So where would I get a revolver now? My inner /k/owboy was awoken earlier and I have a mighty need.
>>65622036Option 1:Buy a real deal pre-1970 classic 'murrican wheel gat. (Don't buy an old Colt unless you can fingerfuck it first and make sure the lock work is still okay and properly timed)Option 2:Pay like 4 or 5 grand to get any one of the various Gucci-brand revolvers currently being built in Europe for fart-huffing gun snobbs who think that their shit doesn't stinkOption 3: Brazilian/Philippine-made pot metal garbageOption 4:See option 3 but with a stamp on it that says "Made in USA", to justify the borderline trash revolver costing 2 or 3 times more than cheap 3rd world imports built to similarly poor standards.
>>65619216How bad is it? My covid era 10/22 came out of the factory with a non-deburred extractor that literally couldn't move. How the fuck does that even happen? Gun runs great after that was fixed though. Also IDK why their front sights overhang the back of the threaded portion of the barrel on some 10/22s when they've done that since at least the 90s for Euro markets.
>>65622029>henry supreme henry makes the ugliest looking lever guns
>>65622029>300 BLK lever gun>16.5"How easy is it to find a gunsmith who'll reattach the front sight on a gun like that after chopping the barrel?
>>65622754Just diy. Its one screw
>>65622029>Anyone know anything about .350 Legend in subsonic?Both Winchester and Hornady make some for about $1-$1.50 a round.
>>65622029.350 in supersonic is roughly comparable to the old .30-40 U.S Krag, so reasonable oomph but not a shoulder bruiser.In subsonic you're looking at long and heavy bullets, like a 250gr .355 projectile doing 1000ft/s from a 16" barrel. There's even heavier than that, like 265gr, and I've heard of people approaching 300gr, I'm assuming you will need a specific twist rate, and probably it will not fit in an AR15 at that point.
>>65622919>There's even heavier than that, like 265gr, and I've heard of people approaching 300gr, I'm assuming you will need a specific twist rate, and probably it will not fit in an AR15 at that point.Anon also needs to remember, assuming that this still might be close to fitting, that if he wants to put it in an AR, the longest OAL can be had in 20rd GI style mags. IIRC Magpul is shorter by a good bit. And even brand to brand of USGI vary. That is assuming he wants that kind of load in an AR if close to possible
>>65622083>How bad is it?They have shipped GP100s with unrifled barrels.
>>65619216>However their leadership and working conditions and equipment are fucking atrocious, almost thirdie tier. Absolute fucking retard tier.That's been literally every factory I've ever worked for and it's why I don't take "Made in USA" seriously
>>65601364>10/22>Mk4>RXM>Generic 16in AR>Generic 308 bolt actionAll a man needs desu, someone in ruger has ball knowledge. maybe add a mossberg 88/500 if you need to shoot birds or something
>>65625073It's still an unfortunate rationalization of their production. I'm worried the new "meta" is/has been standardization of a very narrow variety of guns based around ARs and polymer striker fired pistols. I want variety out there, not a homogenization of the market
>>65625255Endless polymer 9mms and ARs is what the current shooting generation wants
>>65625278I know part of it is because they're good but I think they're simultaneously being pushed that direction as well. There's some anons around here (and irl) that love those kinds of guns so much they get whipped up into this fury of believing only those kinds of guns should exist. It's obnoxious and we don't see it nearly as much as aficionados of other guns
>>65625073>>65625255>>65625278idk how much the marlins cost to make. also you don't need to only make .308 bolt guns. the only difference between .308 and 6.5 sneedmore, for bolt guns, is the chamber cut and bore diameter. you can use the same mags unless you want a super heavy sneedmore round and the same bolt like there's no reason not to offer sneedmore if you also make .308 bolt guns
>>65625284I think part of the problem is that a lot of the current shooting culture looks at what's "practical", and anything not a polymer 9mm or an AR is considered "impractical" and thus a waste of time and money.Money also tying into the other reason polymer 9mms and ARs dominate. 9mm and 5.56 are cheap, relative to everything else. People don't want to spend more to shoot, so they avoid anything not in 9mm or 5.56 (or .300BLK, I guess). They'll even put down anything that may have some advantages so as to justify following the meta.These are the kind of people who think a cartridge that's, I don't know, $3-5 a box more expensive than 9mm/5.56 is too expensive to shoot.
