Previous: >>51328795All AKB sub-groups and related Japanese *48 groups welcome.FAQ: https://pastebin.com/vnf5EBHe>News(10/28) NGT48 12th Single (Kaze no Kataomoi). Kitamura Yuha center(12/09) NMB48 34th Single (TBA). Sakata Misaki center(02/24) AKB48 69th Single (TBA). Ito Momoka center>Useful LinksTheater Schedules and Ticket Application: https://ticket.akb48-group.com/home/top.phpLive Shows: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JnKp_AEeGUNTNePfY3C3AO4veiVi7frza82lRo44ejQ48/46 Group Masterlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B1HFVF5iQBgvjDrPnmwfbq0Iz6VvaOmDep0C2x8yoMo
>>51352887>that grass>that tree>that lake>that hills>that flowing hair of the flower ladyanon was bullsbungholio yet again.https://warosu.org/jp/thread/51112815#p51131082
Holy kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sufdy32WTYs
Dicen que no es asquerosa
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2invh4
>>51353079wheres Ono Erena?
I don't like aitakata at allBad song
https://x.com/jano1dbdspe2/status/2113824667521937664?s=20Someone on twitter is pondering about how lackluster AKBs 12th and 13th generation were
12th generation Basically no standout membersMy favourite is Tano Yuka and the most popular now is maybe Tomu or Hirata the gravure whoreThere was no way this generation could help AKB in any wayOf course and Juri who betrayed us and debuted in a kpop group
13th generation looks better because they were saved by YuiriThe other members are all mediocre tooAnd of course we have Sahho who is still in the group but should have graduated like 5 years ago
The 15th generation were way better. They had the 3 musketeers and really good songs
I find the 16th generation mediocre too. They debuted at the time when sak&michi groups were at their peak and had promoted lookism throughout Japan You would think the management would select beautiful girls to keep up with the current era but all the girls were meh at debutManaka and Kurumi grew into sexy members and Zukki looks nice now though
>>51353577Tano is my least favorite member ever, just seemed a nasty piece of work to me. I saw a Chiyori video with Tomu in the other day actually. Chiyori is very single and seems very, very unhappy about it, so get in there if that floats your boat. Tomu wants a boyfriend she never sees, I think she's been completely burned out by shaking the hands of a million sweaty wotas and prefers the stockmarket and pokemon at this point.In other doomscrolling I was quite amused to learn of the depth and extent of Erii's crush on Onishi Momoka. The funny thing being if she'd tried she could have got a bit further than innocent Erii seems to imagine.
Ultimately AKB failing to recruit beautiful members in the past really hurt the group.Of course beauty isn't all. AKB at its peak wasn't exactly a group filled with beautiful people but if you are going to select talentless members at least make them visually appealing
>>51353601>In other doomscrolling I was quite amused to learn of the depth and extent of Erii's crush on Onishi MomokaCan you enlighten me? I have never heard of this
>>51353610Its in a video from her old channel (Erii Erii Gogo or something?). She did a series of "general election" videos where she basically just talked about other members she likes for different reasons, its quite sweet really. The theme is which member would you want to be your boyfriend (guest star: Maho). Its obviously just fun and games but it stops being ironic and she gets a bit carried away discussing her number one choice.
>putting AKB decline on 2 random subpar generations in 2011Completely clueless. "uhmm akshually this almost completely irrelevant thing is why everything got bad".You could've chosen Maeda graduation, Kami7 graduation, Sashihara graduation, Mahohon scandal, but no, the fact that this one batch of girls did not produce super stars is the real reason.One of these events caused SSK, Janken, Kouhaku and multiple TV shows being cancelled at the same time. And it sure as shit not Hirari's broke ass being groped on video.
>>51353577Tomu stood out from the get go. If management (and a certain ex-Kami 7) hadn't done literally everything in their power to try and stuff her in a box she'd have shone brightly from 2014 onwards.
>>51353706It is a combination of several factors but subpar members really countWhen your oshi graduates you would want other members to like but when you have to choose between mediocre members your only choice is to look for other groups
Sakma×××chi has popular members spread out from the first generation to the current whiles for AKB it is from the 1st generation to the 5th with Sashihara. You could stretch it to Paruru and kawaei but that is it
>>51353647No wonder she looks depressed now. All her friends have graduated
>>51353588Both 12th and 13th were hamstrung less by the quality of the members (which they had in spades) and more by mgmt choosing to push the least suited of both generations. Karen had a neat story and some talent but she was never going to be very popular. Tano's personality was always going to turn fans off. And Juri likewise. They pretty much ignored or deliberately sidelined everyone else.For 13th, they pushed Ryoka and Kaoru (neither of whom are even in your screenshot, somehow). About the only thing Ryoka had going for her is that she was friends with all the other shitty mistake pushes of the era. And Kaoru bailed at the first chance she got. Saho and Yuiri both had extreme fan popularity from the start but neither of them were pushed for years. By the time they started acknowledging Yuiri's existence she'd already eclipsed every other new gen in popularity among fans.
>>51353590The three musketeers are 14th gen. I agree that 15th had strong members, but those weren't the ones they pushed! Again!
Also besides Kojimako and Naachan, 14th gen was terrible. Even with them, it was still worse than 12th or 13th.>>51353737She has Remitan now. Unfortunately.
The real reason that era struggled is that their time to shine came in 2014-2015, and that's the year management was putting all of their effort into a) sister group kennins, and b) Team 8, leaving everyone else to founder.
>>51353727It's a matter of exposure and personal taste.You can objectively judge exposure and when it actually declined. Thus pointing out when general public would have a lot less opportunity to find an oshi in the group.Whether the group/generation at the time has a member you personally would push is purely subjective.
>>51353732 This judgement does not hold up when you look at the numbers. Even Shitsuren Arigatou senbatsu was still outdoing Sakamichi.
>>51353751The sister group kennin was needed because AKB alone could not workPeople say it was a mistake but it was a necessity at that time
You have to know that even without AKB staff interfering the most successful members of the AKB group from AKB 10th generation onwards have all come from sister groupsThe only exception is Honda hitomi who is from team 8 not AKB proper
>>51353770The most valued member was Naachan which is why they didn't let her go to Korea.
>>51353761I think the sales were just based on pure momentum That is why it dipped massively after covid when the momentum was broken
>>51352878Aitakatta was released 20 years ago today
Raimon san es genial
>>51353756chica pura
>>51353601>Chiyori is very single and seems very, very unhappy about itjapanese men are really the lowest of the low
>>51353770Sorry, “team 8 not AKB48 proper” is sending me. Lmao
>>>/hr/5296856Kiss your stepdaughter.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9kXstb9FF4
>>51353806>>51353706At the time I felt it really all went wrong when Yahagi Moeka left but its not fair to blame it on her really. Although it was really more a business thing after that, running down the assets without investment, that dire later period of low energy greatest hits medleys and no new records. Things are a lot better now, there is someone very smart in charge these days, I wish I knew who they were and they gave interviews.
>>51353706Partially true such that old AKS failed to cultivate viable candidates for the Legends to pass their Matrix of SEXship, Matrix of Aceship, Matrix of Leadership, Matrix of Kawaiiship, Matrix of Varietyship, etc.
I wrote another poem. This one is called:A Poem About the Heights of Select 3 Members of the HKT48 Idol and Theatre Group,Reia is tall,Ikuno is quite tall,But Kurumi is quite small.By Anon A. Anonson Thank you.
great shot
h-hiyuka?https://x.com/nekozitas/status/2114370042519285898
>>51355335Susoga lil sis bulking up with protein shake since baby ready for future wrastlin. Look at /our lil sis/ baby eyes like a lioness eye of a tiger.Theme song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob8TNqQw2hY
Can anyone explain wtf happened in Indonesia at the fan event?
we don't talk about that incident here
>>51355529nip being shithead nothing new
>次回の「いいねちょうだい」は・・・>HKT48 #生野莉奈 さん ご出演let's fucking go!
are there recordings of the broadcasts anywhere?
>>51353766It was absolutely 100% not necessary and directly killed the momentum of the gens we're talking about.
>>51354061such a dweebadorable
>>51355781AKB promoted members were crushed by sister group membersIf the sister groups didn't exist AKB would have even sunk lower. The talent just wasn't there
are they lesbians again
>>51355814Never were.>>51355813It absolutely was there, they just stuffed it in a box and sat on it until it was mostly too late.
>>51355848Even outside the AKB system all who have succeeded in other areas are not from AKBLesserafimIzoneCandy TuneFruits zipperHonda hitomi with Say My Name but she is from team 8
>>51355868Rocket Punch will not be disrespected
crime signs
https://gofile.io/d/VrIiYIWR
>>51355868What part of "they squandered the talent they had" did you completely fail to comprehend.
>>51355868You're just proving his point, but you probably think the KPOPs were organically successful (not sure the point of mentioning the random whos that got into random who idol groups).
>>51355925What talent?If they had talent why didn't any of them gain popularity or success after leaving AKB?
>>51355929My point is that even girls who were originally from the AKB groups who moved to other groups and succeeded are from sister groups not AKB itselfIt proves that the management were making the right choice of putting Nako, Sakura etc in AKB
>>51355945It proves jack shit. Do you think Sakura is where she is because of "talent"?
Nako has some actual talent, but her being in AKB prevented other members from developing theirs. It was absolutely a mistake what they did with kennins in 2014, and it's a large part of why the group stagnated for so long.
(2027/01/13) 13th Gen 15th Anniversary Performance
>>51355948AKB team B around the time Mayuyu graduated had Mayuyu, Yukurin( OG members) Kizaki Yuria( Originally SKE ace), Kato Rena, Miyuki Watanabe(NMB) and Nako(HKT) as the only standout membersThe rest who are what kpop fans call nuguA team 16 people and the only standout young person is Nako who is from HKT
>>51355978>2017You do realise what you're describing is the effect of the kennin era, not a justification for it, right?
>>51355947Sakura is talentless when it comes to singing or dancing but has idol power which trumps talentThe problem is that the original AKB girls dont have talent or idol power in them. They are just regular girls
>>51355989Completely false, but naturally you wouldn't know this since you're a kpop tourist who only knows about the group because of a rigged survival show.Thanks to AKS's mismanagement there were basically two separate versions of AKB48 in 2014-2019, the one fans followed on stages and local events where lots of girls blazed with idol power, and the boring TV version that was packed full of geriatrics and sister group members. Sure by 2018 a lot of those other girls had given up, and the situation was really getting dire, but if they'd capitalized on what they had in 2014 instead of trying to play it safe with girls who were already popular in other groups then by 2016 we'd have had a completely fresh lineup of stars. But instead they buried them.Talent is not success is not talent.
>>51355983Why should management allow unpopular AKB members to waste resources when they can move popular sister group members to Tokyo?But but but if management natured them....No it wouldn't work.You guys underestimate how weak AKB would look without sister group members
>>51356010>you underestimate how weak AKB would look without the very thing that made it weakNo, no I don't. Also I don't fucking care about "weak" especially not when it's just temporary. They needed to do a rebuilding from scratch narrative when Yuko left and instead they opted to patch the new garment with the old.
>>51356017Let's looks at our breakout stars who are supposed to carry AKB forward-Owada Nana-Mion-Okada Nana-KojimakoKekOkada Nana is the only great person here
>>51356028I even forgot to mention the fact that all of them got into dating scandals It seems management knew what they were doing more than I even thought Should I promote the pure talented Hakata Nako instead of the talentless Owada Nana whore?Tough choice
>>51356028Oh dear, you genuinely are retarded.Naanya was a mistake, she had literally nothing going for her except a pretty face. Mako wasn't much better. They had tons of other members they could have pushed had they not used all their resources on the idol equivalent of foreign immigrants.
>>51356028NTA. Although not my cup of sake, 2018 Mion would have seemed like a different proposition, its hard to remember now. But of course by the end of the year Yahagi Moeka was being talked about like Itomomo is now, a false dawn as it turned out.
>>51356059Comparing Moeka and Itomomo is silly. Moeka was an obvious bad apple during the auditions, and that only became even more obvious after she joined.
>>51355922>naanya's singingyikes
>>51356062OK, obviously in temperament they couldn't be more different but people really were saying the same things. She's cute, she can sing, she can dance, we've finally got the center we needed all along and she's young enough to have a good run. And then she quit.
>>51356076>she can danceI don't remember anyone saying that.And regardless of what people were saying, if anyone making decisions for the group couldn't see the disaster coming from miles away they have no business managing an idol group.
>>51355767you mean the radio broadcasts? i usually download them with yt-dlp. you can also find some of them here https://hktdouga.blog.jp/
>>51355922Absolutely terrible singing
>>51356089thank you!
>>51355922Without Yuiri this would be unwatchable
tamago
>>51356313She needs a better hairstyle
I honestly do not give a f about problematic idols from the past, team 8, pre-NGT scandal era, etc. all that is ancient history and the only AKB48 members that matter right now are in the current lineup or are otherwise still engaged with the group and with the broader Japanese entertainment industry (Yukirin/Yuiri); everyone else can fuck right off, including the kpop idol known as Sakura from the group Le Sserafim
>>51356559(mostly) agreed
>>51356045I've seen a number of j-dramas where opening a food truck is the happy ending. I don't know if this means there is some sort of cool artisanal food truck scene in Tokyo or its just a meme.
Odiamos a Kasumi y Morikawa
>>51357194It makes sense that even if you are a fan of the new members you will not be a diehard fan who will sit at her seat instead of sitting in Yuiyui's section
>>51357216
Con una portada así venderemos 1 millon
>>51357115MeiMei is playing with fire, here
https://youtube.com/shorts/hLp3AA92ZHA?si=gOHcF-YOnScP8EJvThis is getting to be too much and also not nearly enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjdEaxJnx8A
>>51357034I love them so much it hurts
>>51356223For me, it;s Moka.Hinata - a bit too much of a slutAmane - disloyalUnjo - Too smart Moka - perfect
https://files.catbox.moe/v7n62y.webm Ibuki501
>>51357194>Kondo Sakiwwww>>51357222The good KKS
https://i.imgur.com/PbGmYE8.png>>>/hr/5297760Goblina Slayer Maxima Full Metal Berserk
>>51357251nice feet
>>51357819Just a daily reminder to be nice to your neighbor's daughter, (You) never know when she'll get a growth spurt and bloom daddy issues one day.
>>51358183>trad idolreally tho?looks like a semen demon to me
>>51358223
>>51357454Same
https://files.catbox.moe/859yf7.webm Rarapa58
https://youtu.be/vnHSBML2fg8Naru/Kohina. Surprisingly interesting.
>>51358183She looks like she belongs more in Tokyo burlesque rather than a 48G stage
>>51357948… who?
Beautiful NMB48 trainee
>>51359313Future absolute ace
>>51358211with a face like that, she's never blooming
>>51359334Tbh I’m glad that Seira is carrying the visual/gravure/spotlight of NMB 11ki. That lets my girl chill out
>>51359495She’s destined for greatness as long as she doesn’t fuck things up: missed rehearsals, interpersonal problems, or caught with a boyfriend…Oh wait, I’m just describing that commoner ex-19ki
>>51359666Plastic surgery can make a young jp girl glo the fuck up
>>51359723No it can't.
>>51358447kosher
>>51357107repostan I'm not sure which mod had a hormone imbalance and post assblastum syndromehttps://x.com/nagekinohina/status/2114682732848840998>Sa-ho-san: At 32, my dream is to open a food truck.>Members+fans: EEEHHHH?????anon was bullsbungholio in repeat.https://warosu.org/jp/thread/51291035#p51292334
>>51358183>>>/hr/5297760Goblina Slayer Maxima Full Metal Berserkhttps://www.reddit.com/r/AKB48/comments/1xhe88z/ske48_kurashima_ami_goes_viral_on_x_over_one/
>>51359857Sexy
>>51359752I think Sorara should ditch the twintailsYes she looks good in it but we need variety
>>51359666You can never know what she might grow intoShe looked better before she joined AKB.
>>51359255KekTokyo burlesque likes singing AKB songs for some reasonAnd surprisingly they are better singers than AKB girls
>>51359897It is kind of crazy to think about the fact that when Sahho joined the group kosaki and 2 other members weren't even born
>>51359929Whoa, you're right. Maybe AKS should consider making a new sister group, ala. SDN48, and name it BBY48 all 4 to 8 years in preparation of graduating to instead graduating from.
>>51359938Pedo
>>51360100gookification suits her
>>51359925Girls can always get uglier as they age. But with experience one can usually tell if an ugly girl has the potential to get prettier, and Kosaki doesn't.
>>51360100Interesting to see her turn into a kpop cloneThis means that kpop idols are not as ethereal as they seem. It is all cosmetics
>>51360272>It is all cosmetics...and plastic surgery.
>>51360295That is why they look so much better than jpop idolsThe difference is insane but it worksKpop is global now ajd extremely popular in Japan
>>51360320Literalmente cualquiera de nuestras chicas se ve mejor
>>51360341Chica de 28 años
>>51359924cállate
>Airi Sato: "It's really frustrating that the number of views on our music video hasn't yet translated into increased concert attendance." [AKB48 Ai-chan]
>>51361151Sounds fake to me.
>>51360320>kpop idols>looking better than jpop idolsIn no universe has this ever been true, the fuck. And plastic surgery is a huge part of why kpop girls are disgusting comparing to jpop idols.
>>51360272there is astronomically more candid footage of kpop idols, and they generally look the same as they do on social media. can't say the same for jpop idols, many of whom rely so heavily on filters that seeing them in a fancam is like being introduced to an entirely different person.
>>51361255How can there be "candid" footage of brainwashed robots made to live in what amounts to a debtor's prison for bonded labour. The whole thing is disgusting.
>>51361151Where did she say this? Mobame? Weverse? Some media interview?IMO, this is the problem of catering too much to the young female demographic - they get you the views, the social media trends, the overall internet influence, but that doesn’t really translate to increased concert attendance unless they’re girls already living in Tokyo. The foreign western weebs who are still in school / younger than college grad age (< ~22-24) who end up loving AKB48 for their viral TikToks and because they like the cute outfits simply don’t have the money to travel to Japan for shows unless they’re from rich families
>>51360320The only (Korean) idol kind of on the same level as jpop idols is Oh My Girl Arin post-surgery but before her massive amounts of weight circa 2023-2024. Everyone else is pretty bleh or looks uncanny
>>51361658Not that poster but it seems to be this. Really the standard "Tokyo Dome" argument.https://www.saga-s.co.jp/articles/-/1817174I'm unlikely to ever go but they don't exactly make it sound easy to go honestly. Apply for this. Apply for that. Entire a lottery for this, pre-register for the chance to enter a draw for that, and then maybe you can got an arena show. From the way they made it sound Three Concepts was going to be at least as oversubscribed as the normal theatre is.Maybe in 2026 the walk-up ticket is dead but they don't need to make it sound harder to book a seat in exchange for money than it is to get a skilled worker visa.
>>51361755Ah, yeah, AKB makes it a pain in the ass to buy tickets. You basically have to do the equivalent of a white collar job’s task to even *apply* for tickets or for handshake. My chika friends don’t even bother setting up the digital infrastructure for this shit even if they find certain members cute (Itomomo, Zukky, etc.)
>>51361764Even if you go the JTB route which I'm aware is a bit of a rip off but just to make it easy as a solo traveler, you're still entering a lottery. If they weren't definitely going to be sold out that is moronic and even if they are going to be: take the massive mark-up on the ticket price and your cut of the hotel booking fee like everyone else on the planet does and hold some tickets for people with more money than sense. Unless we're now pretending a signed Erii Chan photograph is worth 200 dollars on its own. I'm not travelling half way around the world on a lottery draw.
>>51361777What I’ve seen people do is, book the flight and hotels anyways before the lottery results are announced. You normally win if you have eizo and hashira no kai. I guess if, if those plans fall through, you can still have a great Japan vacation. You would just miss the days of the concerts you didn’t win. It’s a long flight for me, so I wouldn’t fly to Japan *just* for an AKB48 concert, and instead it would be an activity within a broader two-week Japan vacation. But you’re right, by keeping these as lotteries, we’re basically locked out of a quick weekend trip to Japan just for the concert itself (even if the flight is 13-20+ hours)
>>51361777On a slightly related note, whats this...>We hope that your numerous cheers and support posts on social media will reach out to even more overseas fans as well as the global music community. It would mean so much to us if you could share what attracts you to AKB48 and “Suki-ish,” in English and various languages!! AKB48 is excited to take this next step, together with your support!I've always thought Japan is for the Japanese (as is their culture, I'm just a nosey foreigner intruding into something you are slightly embarrassed about in many cases and that is fine) so I'm prepared to forgive and forget years of trying to take down anything fansubbed with no alternative and a rather tardy stance on activating even YT translate options, but it did make me laugh. Now you need to gaijin huh grammy-kun.
>>51361792No, I'd build a longer trip around it (and probably pay a premium therefore to lock it down) but the idea just stops being fun almost immediately and if its not fun, its not my job to go is it.
>>51361802It’s definitely a bummer. I find that Japan has plenty to offer beyond just AKB48. heck, even more than theaters; I have more fun sitting at at @home than watching a stage performance. Anyways, you do what works for you
>>51361811Of course, its more of a bucketlist thing at this point. The doing it is more important than what it actually is.
>>51361793See, my problem with *this* strategy is that it’s the most hilarious turn of events for AKB48. Suki-ish is as anti-foreigner/anti-westerner/anti-eigo as it gets. Us westerners tend to like modern, highly polished, contemporary music that feels like it belongs in a nightclub or mainstream radio, not a Showa-inspired song.
Omoide Scroll would have been a much better export for foreign audiences than Suki-ish imo
>>51361814I don't agree. What I like about it is an appeal to something traditional that isn't just Japanese. People go and watch Abba holograms at this point, they do still want songs with intros and jazz chords, middle eights and brutal key changes. And stupid dances you can learn and daft videos. This is also true in terms of what people actually listen to on Spotify as back catalogue even if all you get on the radio is someone grunting with autotune to a four bar loop whose idea of a stage performance is to stand around in a track suit.The other thing I think about a lot with AKB's hit songs you can laugh at me for saying, but they have a quality of joy to them you only get with really good pop music that has been missing in the west for a long time now. And Suki-ish really does have that.I was watching the member reaction video earlier, it seems everyone's favorite bit is Azu getting wiped out in the pillow fight scene. You don't get that from Billie Eilish.
>>51361848I don’t like it *precisely* because it feels like it’s trying to make me feel happy using a fairly standard AKB-style AkiP arrangement. Something like White Scorpion, or shit even nogizaka46 feels more polished and more apt for western ears than suki-ish. And those are all coming from AkiP. If you want maximum happiness overdrive, you’re probably listening to iLiFE or some other Heroines group.But really, there’s a reason westerners tend to lean more towards the alt scene rather than AKB/trad idols, and it’s because the alt scene aligns better with typical western tastes (not necessarily Billie eilish style. Just… things that make sense for our taste)
Perfect little Aryan queen.
>>51361255nothing kpops do is "candid" you dunce
>Anna-sensei: Akimoto-san did originally ask me to guide them. This first lesson for Oogoe Diamond, I taught them strictly. Seeing the change when they danced properly, it was scary. But when I returned, they were back to normal. A member asked, 'What's the point of doing it so seriously?'>The centre position is held by someone who didn't want to be there, and didn't put in effort.>Originally, Takamina was centre. She was the #1 hard-working girl that everyone acknowledged. The moment she was removed and Acchan became centre, AKB became that kind of group.>'If working hard means I can become centre, I'll work hard. Akimoto-san put a girl who didn't work hard, and didn't want to be there, in the centre, and she was successful like that. So isn't it pointless to work hard?' I don't know what to say to the girls who think like that.>I don't want to say 'They're pitiful', but... The adults around them tell them 'Do your best!' But the girls they choose are different. So the girls motivation gradually fades away. If just one staff member acknowledged them properly... They might change if you keep telling them.Management has always been the group's biggest handicap. And she mentions Acchan but I don't necessarily think that was an issue, the group would not have been as successful with Takamina as the face. You have to consider other factors besides just "working hard". Looks matter, talent matters. Personality matters. But they consistently failed to reward girls holistically or consistently, and created an atmosphere of low effort.
>>51361864Yeah but fuck western "taste".
>>51362026Do you mean working hard as in being a good dancer or singer?That has never mattered in AKB
>>51362026I think the only girls who weren't awarded was someone like Amina who ranked 8th in the general election and was never rewarded with senbatsu
You can make a claim for Yuko who won the 2010 election. Was center of the most popular AKB song but never got a single center reward from AKB management Instead Acchan still got 2 in a row and won the 2011 election making it 3 in a rowSashihara too but Amina was treated the worst
>>51362065That's the problem, yes.>>51362066There've been plenty of girls who tried hard and got nothing for it, neither by management nor even sometimes by (enough) fans.>Sato AminaThe first SSK had extremely low vote counts. She didn't have a large fanbase, her fans just pioneered bulk buying and probably the fanclub membership exploit. It still should have been rewarded more, but SSK was never as significant as fans wanted it to be.>>51362068Ironically Yuko was far more of a hard worker than Acchan, if they'd have rewarded her more after Hebirote they could have turned things around. But for some reason the powers that be (including Takamina) mostly seemed to want to erase her legacy.
>>51362073>That's the problem, yesI feel like in a way depending on good dancers and singers would have hurt the group way moreSasshi's group =love can't have a regeneration of members because there is no way they can find members who sing as good to replace the current members
>>51362073>There've been plenty of girls who tried hard and got nothing for it, neither by management nor even sometimes by (enough) fansIn a way that is what life is. It is depressing but doing your best or being the best doesn't mean you will be rewarded I mean look at how much Sak*mic** groups are worshipped in Japan even though they haven't produced anything worthy of that dominance
Sashihara is the most successful idol of the 21st century by a large margin and she literally has 0 idol skillsThe songs she has written for her idol groups are doing well and she has been recognised as a good songwriter but that doesn't explain how she dominated AKB from 2013 to 2019
>>51362126Variety is an idol skill
>>51362073I don’t understand this obsession with AKB fans wanting idols to be rewarded for their hard work. That’s never been the impression I got from Senbatsu. An idol could work really hard, be an excellent theater girl, work her ass off st the concerts and still not get rewarded for Senbatsu (or any other prestigious high-influence/high visibility position granted by management) because other members are simply more deserving or are worth more investing inI also don’t think Senbatsu is a “okay, this idol has worked really hard for the past few years, let’s give her Senbatsu.” It’s almost a forward-facing signal that management will continue investing scarce resources in the idol, and that can be completely independent of seniority and effort.
>>51362372Life doesn't end on senbatsu. Noro Kayo is one of the most successful AKB members, but during her time in the group she was mostly rewarded with being called a fat bitch.
>>51362411I agree with you, but please tell that to every single mf akb48 fan who gets upset or depressed when their oshi doesn’t make it into Senbatsu
>>51362026Sashihara would say that is misunderstanding what the product is. Don't take lessons before you join, fans want to say you are terrible, they want to say they saw you get good. Its your job to provide that.It is true that is very 5th generation, very Sasshi herself who got TV shows out of a ponketsu persona and little early HKT perhaps when they had a bratty image.But that isn't how Sasshi stayed, its not how HKT stayed and it certainly isn't how =LOVE is run and I don't think its true of AKB now either. Members often talk about experienced senbatsu members working harder than they imagined in a way they find inspiring or a kick up the backside. As to senbatsu specifically I think they can have multiple reasons that are honorable (as opposed to lazy/corrupt) that aren't just "works hard". Much we don't know about anyway I'm sure.
>>51362420AKBs activities have dried up a lot. There is nothing to do every year beyond the 2 singles they releaseIf your oshi is not in senbatsu she rots in the theatre for a whole year. Very discouraging
>>51362411Noro Kayo is indeed a fat bitchWhat is needed to succeed in the idol group is different from what is needed to succeed in the entertainment industry as a wholeIn fact I think the ones who are worst at being idols will find it easier to succeed elsewhere
The SKE pornstar is the most successful SKE member but she was a terrible idol.
>>51361658I get that AKBs goal is tokyo dome so they need huge concert attendance but I don't care about tokyo domeSakamichi groups makes it look easy but it is incredibly difficult to sell out there
>>51362476Internal success in AKB48 (handshake sales, Senbatsu status, etc.) doesn’t necessarily translate to broader j-ent success. And, to be honest, I would agree. I think someone like Yurina gyoten would do well externally since she already has prior gravure and fashion modeling work
>>51362471That’s just the nature of getting into a group like AKB. Plenty of idols are “rotting away” at livehouses instead. Why should I care about someone else’s AKB oshi?
>>51362372It's really fucking simple. As expressed by Anna-sensei in a recent interview >>51362026 rewarding hard work encourages hard work. Lazy idols are shit idols.
>>51362411>Noro Kayo is one of the most successful AKB membersNo, she's one of the most successful EX-AKB members.
>NMB Mobame is gone for goodwtf
>>51362733Hard work is not enough to make it into Senbatsu. All Senbatsu members work damn hard.
>>51362743Honestly, good riddance. The meta is all on Instagram broadcast channels and TikTok bulletin boards. Mobame is just a legacy artifact for the 48G boomer/gen X fans.
>>51360100Boss Pantomiyah Maybach refilling Hope (left) and Dreams (right).
>>51360063papa anons always remember to be nice to your neighbor's daughter (You) never know if will hit hormones enriched jackpot.
>>51362783nice back
>>51363417cumming soon
>>51363634>I need Kohina, Yuiri, Hotechan and Soara for a job immediately.>No can do boss, they already working today.>Get me the slightly rougher looking SKE versions thenMaybe its just me.
diosa / asquerosa
BAHIYYIH
>>51363777>throw in discount Hinanon too
Manager-san tells all.https://youtu.be/5mxinpqCjjY
Por que las japonesas creen que "loli" es un disfraz de halloween?
>>51365183Only about halfway through but lots of interesting stuff, he is being more indiscrete than I'd imainge. Came to AKB from 'cabaret clubs'. "I thought it would be easier because underage girls don't drink".Quite a lot of funny Sashihara talk as I think this is a business publication really. "She wasn't stunning or anything, you asked me if someone had transformed, you should look up her debut photos [laughter]".And contrary to recent speculation here, handshake events run at 60% gross profit apparently.
>>51365202I don't even know why they celebrate Halloween I hate the fact that Japan is so cucked by America.Very embarrassing
>>51365218>I was focused on looks, I came from a cabaret background, it would be a shame if someone ugly got in and had no fans>But Mr Akimoto said if there were eight judges and one judge said someone was good, let them in. There is nothing interesting in someone everyone agrees on...it wasn't that he didn't care about looks at all. But as a result those unpolished girls, not all perfectly proportioned, resonated so hard with people and drew in fans because they had room for improvement and to become beautiful...its not interesting if its finished from the start.That makes sense honestly.
>>51365218Can people stop talking about sasshi for 1 minute?A 1000 members of AKB group and everyone is obsessed with Sasshi
>>51365477It depends on what your priority is.Unpolished girls like Acchan and Sasshi ultimately carried the group but beauty would be a huge plusI don't watch theatre stages with busu girls
>>51365475>i don't know why the country obsessed with cosplay celebrates a holiday about dressing up in costumes
Sasshi has summoned Maeda for her new member auditions
>>51365495It is not only Halloween The country practically worships AmericaVery disgusting given the history and even the present situation between the 2 countries Americans words everywhere, they worship baseball an American sportWorship Americans music, American movies, Disney worship Uses American wordsShameful
>>51365500>>51365500Halloween is fun.
>>51365500Ah you're retarded. My mistake.
>>51365537Imagine Palestinians celebrating Hanukkah
>>51365500As an American, I’m glad we have this particular dynamic with Japan, as jp local otaku fans are more likely to view you positively
>>51365218Got a publicly available source for that 60% figure, or is that hearsay from people you know in the industry (and obviously can’t reveal where you got this info from)Also, I’d be more curious about net profit. Still, 60% gross profit sounds impressive. The whole thing is a temporary mini-city with hundreds of contractors/staff and likely a couple operations managers supervising the whole thing
>>51365617Its in the video from Tomonobu Togasaki himself. He organized and ran all of them until he got demoted for a hookers and blow incident after which the members demanded Shinobu take over somewhat against her will.
Is there ever a day when they are not performing reset in the theatre?
>>51365202Immediately thrown under the bus by Aichan>She's 23.
>>51365732
>>51365576Hanukkah sucks
>>51365576What a retarded comparison. Perfectly on brand.
>>51365624>the members demandedMore like Akimoto did another one of his asspulls, with typically terrible results.
Although given the timing maybe it was Yoshinari instead of Akimoto. Makes sense. Woman takes over the company, replaces the most effective man in the company with a completely unqualified woman who then proceeds to bungle everything.
As a HKT chad, I mostly only know Sasshi for the HKT work, which is amusing, since it is by now the least important part of her career.
>>51365855did she see a comically enormous Toblerone in the audience?
Miu looks so gorgeous (even more than usual, somehow)https://www.tiktok.com/@miumiu_1343/video/7702338712973184264
https://files.catbox.moe/0q50r0.webm Maritan26
>>51365624When’s the last time he organized a handshake event? It sounds like this is old information unless he was demoted recently
>>51366045He worked for Office48 between 2004-2018 but also ran SLDK 2010-2019 which is the agency that actually ran the handshake events for 48 groups.
>>51366312Gotcha. So that is very old info and might not reflect handshake profits today
>>51366014It’s the blush makeup/filter. A lot of akb idols also look much better when they’re not wearing the stage costumes
>>51366389Yes, I'm sure he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
>>51366463I mean, his knowledge might have been accurate at the time, but he’s likely just wrong for 2026. It also doesn’t sound like he’s been in a position of responsibility in a while, so I wouldn’t trust him even if he said something today about handshake profits
>>51366537
>>51366542Yes, he invented them as mass events, ran hundreds of them and led a specialist agency for nearly a decade. Clueless basically.
>>51366667I know you’re being sarcastic, but I genuinely don’t assign much weight to what he said in the past. AKB48 could have a completely different operational environment now.
>>51366537>>51366546pure sex
Bebu
>>51366681It doesn't, for better or worse.
haum
Kurihara Sae-sama announced graduation
>>51367414Let’s fucking gooooo
>>51367577So this is what the newcomer looks like when she’s not in a stage outfit. Interesting
>>51367252yes please
>>51367414Important. Queen.Sae is very special. A core member of the Axis of Purity (though it cannot be denied that she had a certain sexuality about her). She played an important role in HKT, not least for being the rock upon which my oshi, Mirun-chan, found stability.Curvy, slightly tall, and with a beautiful, strong face, Sae-chan had the appearance of a lead. Yet she seemed to lack a certain professional confidence — or will — that might have taken her to higher places. What that means, however, is that she was a great fit for HKT, where few of the girls are social climbers or striving divas.But we must not describe her as shy. She was comfortable with her friends and within the group, and rarely, if ever, showed signs of frustration or unease. She smiled and giggled, and took delight in being a girly-girl — powdered, pampered, and plush. We can easily imagine that she was most in her element when in the dressing room, helping the other girls settle on makeup and styling, those areas which she knew best.Let us enjoy two clips of Sae-chan. In one, we see her during a photoshoot, making her good friend Mirun-chan laugh as Aki takes a photograph. In the other, we see her playing a game with Mirun-chan and Yuuna. This is how we remember her: nestled with other members of the Axis, that group of girls whose shy personalities Sae-chan’s presence did so much to bring out.https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1793459618732743.webm>>>/wsg/6262136https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1793458818732628.webm>>>/wsg/6262141Before Mirun-chan graduated, we had watched her mingle joyously with Sae-chan throughout the years. Sae-chan goes back to her now.
>>51368099Beautiful. Stunning.
we like this one actually
>>5136793745,000 likes on XMaybe the AKB renaissance is here
https://files.catbox.moe/h5qkq4.mp4
from the new lot it's only the gigantor bambina in akb that has an interesting head. i would like to see her interact with saki from tuide.
How does Sashi feel about her time in HKT?
>>51368373she's so cool
>>51368386luma6nZ9z98 - watch saki from 2:11
Sasshi is superhumanHow does she manage to do so.manu things without being worn outIt is still insane to me that she learnt the choreography for Nemohamo Rumour for the 20th Anniversary
>>51368380We will never know anyone's true feeling about the groups they were in but she stayed for 7 years in HKT even though she could have graduated in 2013 and still made it big in showbiz
>>51368674do you think she regrets not learning korean earlier? she's so wasted there. imagine her happy interactions with moka and iroha.
>>51368434I want to suck her boobs and lick her farts.
>>51368596>>51368589Sexxo
>>51368732>>51368737in a b reg transit behind greggs :3
don't ctrl-f5 the page...i repeat: don't ctrl-f5 the page...
>>51368875Look like a tall Remitan
I wish my waifu had a penis so I could eat her cum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F8w2qyVg1c
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1793502497403990.mp4https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1793502719054777.mp4
does your imam know?
