Why is "Amerifats vs. Europoors" a thing? Why do they hate each other? Or to be perfectly honest with you it seems as though Euros hate Americans more. Really I don't know the difference between most of Euros or Americans. Sometimes I can distinguish Americans because they wear the baseball hat.
>>225902473They both fight over who gets to have more indian immigrants
>>225902473The US thinks that if Europe unites it will recolonize them and always saw them as a risk due to Catholicism/socialism (same shit according to Dostoevsky). Remember how Japan was isolated for 250 years petrified of Catholicism? The US is afraid of exactly the same thing so it constantly meddles in their politics and prevents them from federating. On the schizo end of this you have groups like Mormons that thing the antichrist will arise from a unified Europe. Europe thinks the US is backwards, anti-human, and holding back Progress.
>>225902576>The US thinks that if Europe unites it will recolonize themI think I can't agree with your take. Europe is objectively weaker than the USA even united, it relies heavily on American tech and capital markets, and the USA has thousands of thermonukes to Europe's few hundred. The USA has more commissioned aircraft carriers than all of Europe's navies combined. It seems impossible for me to believe America is scared of Europe in any way...
>>225902473mostly because of you ivan
Europe isn't a single country, and Europeans don't all think alike even if they do come from the same countryNovel concept for HIVans and eastern Asians alike, I know.
>>225902724I think most Euros no matter country don't like the USA and usually think same about this. At least online. And many Euros want Europe to be a country.
>>225902473We don't care what Europeans think any more. They've allowed their civilization to be taken over by Jihadist invaders. Until they sort that out, we have zero respect for them. Trying to argue with 90% of Europe is a waste of time. Their people are beyond demoralized. Intergenerational cucking has completely drained them of the will to stand up for anything virtuous, even the basic animal values of self-preservation. They are essentially told they must care for every foreigner, and many of them go along with it. Euros are educated in self-destructive nihilism from birth, and the fruit of this despondency is a complete spiritual collapse of the continent.The reality is, Europe is just becoming a satellite continent for Africa and the Middle East. There is no visible assimilation or even an attempt at it. Europeans are nothing but the dogs of Muslims. They have established themselves as the ruling class in Europe, they live there, but are not subject to European laws or values, while native Europeans exist to serve them and must placate their every whim.A Muslim can mass murder dozens of Europeans. And what is their instinct? Mourn for their dead brothers and sisters? Desire revenge? Make sure it doesn't happen again by getting them out? No. When an attack happens, Europeans don't shed tears for the dead. They shed tears thinking about the backlash against Muslims. They cry about how, "oh, this attack will cause the far right to be more popular!" Meanwhile they reassure themselves that we are all human while Muslims laugh at them for being weak spineless cucks and blatantly take advantage of them, proudly sucking Europe dry.It is like they want to go extinct. They hate themselves more than anything else in the world. A continent of useless, self hating pussies who somehow think they are also superior to the rest of the world because they care about "muh human rights" (lel)
>>225902783>And many Euros want Europe to be a country.What planet Earth are you living on because it's not ours.
>>225902802Most Euros are pro EU and support further EU integration. UK is definitely an exception but now most want to rejoin EU.
because the elites want that we hate each other. politicians can get easy votes by simply blaming other countries for national problems.
>>225902836Divide and conquer never involved unification. Divisions are created then if one faction reneges another side is backed. When you think about it if all the eggs were in one basket it's easier to carry, but there's no insurance if it all tips over. Seems more like a calculus than simple populism.
>>225902783CoolHave you got any numbers to back that up
>>225902792Holy fuck get a life dude
>>225902473I dont know. US is obcejtively better than Europe so it seems like a stupid rivalry
>>225902829Most people are pro-EU, that’s true, but that’s a far cry from wanting to move toward a federation. The average normie in my country would take some time to wrap their head around the idea that Spain would no longer be an independent nation. I assume it’s the same in other countries. Also, while I’ve encountered Spaniards online who subscribe to all sorts of different ideologies, I have never once come across a group that advocates for a European federationI do not rule out the possibility that Europe might become a single country, it is quite possible, but at the earliest, this would happen toward the end of this century
>>2259024731990s-2000s: Far left Europeans getting butthurt over American superiority and some legit issues like unnecessary wars2010s-2020s: Far right Americans getting butthurt over European superiority and some legit issues like bad immigration system
Europeans are lazy complecent and prideful meanwhile Americans are driven and hard working. Americans have been on the for front of all the Technological advancements post ww2, current world we live in was largely built by American discipline. Europeans are too prideful to admit their fall off post ww2.
>>225906439Europe had a solid track record until WW2, the US basically used to be China to them. Tons of factories and the US stealing their inventions via patents. Only after Bretton Woods did the dynamic flip. I'm not even 100% sure how the US went from producing sleazy businessmen like Thomas Edison to geniuses like Robert Dennard.
>>225902473A lot of Russians trying to stir shit between regular Americans and Euros
50% of Americans are propagandised by right wing media that wants them to hate Europe so they don't request basic policies like free healthcare, etc. The richest Americans spend hundreds of billions every year to for this.
>>225902473It's Trump and his band of grifters. Europe were fine with Obama and Clinton. Even the Bushes were tolerated.
>>225907000Bush didn't have thirdie-tier levels of corruption at least
>>225907000Bush Jr. Was hated more than Trump. Some Euros actually like Trump. No Euros liked Bush. Which is silly in a way because Bush was a committed Atlanticist.
>>225907291Nah, Trump is way more disliked. Bush didn't mess directly with Europe in the same way.
I'm feeling frustrated by the comments from American sycophants of the paedophile-in-charge that taught them to hate Europe and NATO. they're too simple in the brain to realise that we just joined NATO in 2023, too fucking retarded to understand. in a way, you could say I'm disappointed in NATO given what an absolute retard the average NATO member is
>>225902473I dislike them because of their gross culture and their sheer arrogance despite most Europeans living better than they do.
>>225902792>we
I think my prediction hold out well that they will hate Europe for being racist.
>>225907468I feel like "Americans are super arrogant" is one of the biggest misreads Euros have on us
From my observations, the hate mostly comes from woke western Europeans>muh racism>muh ICE>muh george floyd>muh TrumpIt's rare that anyone hates the USA for based reasons(though it sometimes happens).I myself am a bit salty that due to how influential they are, and due to young Romanians being mostly proficient at English, every time some new white female retardness gets invented over there, it finds its way here real quick.And it's a bit unfair that I gotta deal with both 3rd world problems and 1st world female mindset all in the same country.
Bashing random Americans is dumb, though there's a lot of propaganda. Anyone who's ever watched some YouTube videos or listened to some podcasts or whatever know there's a lot of just regular dudes. Kinda polarized where it often goes to batshit crazy when it's not a regular dude at most.
like holy shit, the americans on this very site make me believe they gave up on the concept of moral integrity years ago. I truly hate to see it, they were the ones to watch the soviet union implode by itself. admittedly there were a bunch of retarded western european countries who were naive enough to believe that it was the end of war. hell, I wouldn't trust the spanish to aid us in any way, shape or form, during a war. or even germans given their russian-funded afd-cuckoldry. or the french for the same reason. who can you trust at all in case of war? maybe swedes, I dunno. they're pretty cucked yet at least principled
>>225907291Trump has a celebrity worship cult, it's not the same thing as people liking or disliking a normal politician. Trump tapped into something completely different.
>>225907591It's not arrogance in a typical sense, it's more like misinformed confidence. Americans will confidently say something while being completely wrong and knowing nothing about it. Take the typical American rightoid example. There's a whole "Europe has fallen!" meme, while the Americans spouting it have never left their state and your demographics are far worse than any European country.
Funnily enough these are good things to call each other. We are fat and should be bullied into not being fat anymore. They are poor and should be bullied into not being poor socialists anymore.
>>225907835How much of your interactions with Americans is hypothetical? I get the impression it's all of it reading this. I get this impression every time I hear someone complain about American culture yet either mention something hyper specific or completely non-specific, as if this place isn't fragmented into thousands of subcultures.
>>225907785Think some people go crazy for that flavor of indomitable confidence
>>225907785you really got your media truth from journalists back in those days, while feeling far more convinced that nothing could possibly threaten your gay paradise. you felt very much free to criticise those yankees back in those days. after a couple of decades of western european naivete, you have to face the fact that it wasn't the end of history and maybe the british military is there for a reason, after all
>>225907878Was my example not extremely specific? American rightoids on twitter are representative of tens of millions of Americans.
Why do faggots go on and on about the "Trump cult." He's a political leader. This is how democratic movements work. Someone says he's going to do something for certain people, they follow and vote for him, he follows through, they become more loyal. This is all that has happened. You can hate his agenda all you want but acting like loyalty to the guy who delivers the things you want is "cultish" is just retarded. What's the fucking point of democracy then? Abolish it and let our "superiors" make all the decisions like you apparently want.
It's like>THEY'RE the cultists, not me, the guy that continually votes for people and parties that deliver nothing for me and make me perpetually poorer, disenfranchised, and more cynical, I'M not in the cult
>>225907968He has a political cult. It's not like a typical political movement in a Western nation. It's like something from a thirdie country. It's about vibes, feelings, aesthetics and not policy.
>>225908002You are in denial. Trumps has a political cult like Putin, Erdogan, Modi, and other thirdies.
>>225908009It is quite literally a straight up policy issue. There is nothing aesthetic about the clear and obvious statement of "we hate foreign mass migration and want it to end." And the more he does it the more rabid his core gets.What is a "typical" movement, anon? Voting en masse to stop the boats like you did but actually getting 100x more boats because your leadership are total sellout fucks?
>>225908052I live in a country where people gather to riot and kneel for dead nigger criminals I think I know what a cult looks like
>>225902473For a century, Americans saw themselves as isolationists in a new civilisation derived from English customs and French fashions. From the late-19th century onwards, they became more aware that they had the bulk of a continent to utilise - and colonise - and that they could afford to become more involved in Old World affairs without any great danger to their own existence. They've taken a leaf out of the British book and played European nations off against one another, with the occasional show of brute force, to their own benefit. Obviously, being a prime destination for 'brain drain' expats is an additional weakening of England, France, Germany, etc.
>>225908061Are you really going to argue that Trump doesn't have fanatical vibes based cult supporting him and is more like Keir Starmer or some other firstie president from Europe?
>>225907878you want to talk about being "fragmented into thousands of subcultures"? the average magatard absolutely is convinced that europe is one country. I've had countless encounters just on this website from them seething about "us" being "freeloaders on NATO". it was in national news how we just got a delivery of two F-35 fighters, that is how retarded your countrymen are
>>225908052He's a fed and those are national leaders. And yes the US isn't a normal nation it's a federal republic. Russia is the RSFSR and Turkey/India count as a single polity. No one likes feds, even Reagan was campaigning on small government.
>>225907878>>225908144I mean I should have known it doesn't mean shit to your retarded populace in reality. at least your leadership somewhat acknowledged this
>>225908144Who cares what the average magatard thinks? Most people in the US can name about as many countries in Europe as Europeans can name states. I don't expect you to know where Omaha is anymore than you expect someone in the US to know where Andorra is.
>>225908192That has nothing to do with Trump forming a political cult based on vibes and celebrity worship.
>>225902473things are more simple, new american administration doesnt like eu because they want to bribe each country particulary for their mundane business, they have to respect eu laws if they want to start any major trade and they dont like that.
>>225908241from now on I will be even more respectful towards omaha than before (had internet romance with someone from oklahoma in my teenage years)
>>225908144A bunch of those threads back from around the election seemed like divide and conquer propaganda though. Dumbest one the Russkies did recently was over the AC thing. I don't think the average American hates our guts.
>>225908052Trump will be out of office in two years he's not those Thirdie dudes who can declare themselves president for life.
>>225908585He has unleashed and dogged on the thirdie mentality in your electorate. Trump will go, but it's only a matter of time until another gritting demagogue taps into the same thing. It's not going back in the bottle.Are you ready for the absolute shitshow that will erupt next week when he loses the midterms and claims it was fraud btw?
>>225903736>1990s-2000s: Far left Europeans getting butthurt over American superiority and some legit issues like unnecessary warsthe reason France was memed on during the Iraq War was mostly because their numerous military interventions in Africa are well known to all so nobody was buying their antiwar schtick
americans are fat racist redneck retards who cut off half of their dicks and believe the world is only 6000 years old and they deserved pearl harbor and 9/11 and also they eat big mac for breakfast and think jesus created americait's the most racist country in the world but also number one in interracial marriages so they're all mutts but also KKK members o algo
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>>225908769It's the most schizo country in the world kept together entirely by it being wealthy. If the US actually became poor, like hyper inflation Germany, it will be absolute chaos
>>225907468>I dislike them because of their gross culture and
>>225902792this is a truth nuke but people need to understand america/NATO caused it
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>>225908842OPEC is HQ'd in Austria, they have no right to complain since they do their own management. Sadly the US has to tard wrangle the ME otherwise the petrodollar makes no sense.
>>225908689please also remember that the mainstream media in European cunts is very left wing and basically an appendage of the DNC
>>225906857Europe has always had slow but steady progress. What happened in the 20th cent is that two large superpoopers rose, an anarcho capitalist and a centrally planned capitalist one (us and chyna), and it's very very hard to comoete with either.Europe is in the middle of these two extremes, but maybe it's the most preferrable for the average citizen.
idk man, Thomas Jefferson once said that Europe was 300 years behind America in politics, science, and religion
>>225909870Thomas Jefferson fucked Negress slaves
>>225909870How does that even make sense? Jefferson lived in the 18th century. Was he saying the native Americans were ahead of Europe?
>>225910153you know those slaves got here in colonial times because the crown imported them here, right?
>>225907456You only joined to wean off NATO after the start of the 2022 Invasion just to stick it to Russia and suck up to the Bidenites. The Bidenites never wanted peace, they decided fuck yeah we'll give those anti gay Ruskies a war. Joe Biden himself said to Putin back in 2011 when he first met him "I’m looking into your eyes, and I don’t think you have a soul." Trump has never been a Cold War idealogue like Biden, but sees advantageous transactions as good and bad transactions as rot. Trump warned Germany of its dependence on Russian Natural Gas and Germany just laughed at him back during his first term. NATO should have been temporary, yet the Neolibs have insisted it on keeping on life support. American Neolibs (both Biden and Bush are part of the problem) have become so arrogant and detached, thinking they can paint the whole world rainbow (realism > idealism). Alliances should be purely transactional and temporary. Its become so obvious that Europe wants to stay as a dependent, meanwhile Japan wants to be like the USA, independent and self suffient, capable of launching war against China. Despite being out of war, Japan lusts for it, lusts for the spilling of Communist blood. Europe doesn't share this same bloodlust. They would rather apologize and duck behind the USA then to openly admit Communists are subhuman creatures that must be treated only one way: through violence.
Politically motivated assassinations of Communists? We don't do that in Germany.
>>225902473exactlywe hate baseball
>>225902473i don't hate euros they're just annoyingthey're very convinced that they are better than the rest of the world even though they have hardly contributed culturally or technologically in 100 years. they even have a feeling of superiority to countries that objectively massively out perform them like korea, koreans widely report more discrimination traveling in europe than in the us
>>225902473I like americans
I like the idea of America but Americans themselves are annoying and want nothing to do with average American. In short love the US government, hate the people.
what a retarded thread
