>greeks were invented in 1822, when the brits, french and russians, under the initiative of bavarian king ludwig i, invaded the once-albanian-turkish morea region of the ottoman empire and forced the population to hellenize.>ludwig’s underage son, “otto of greece”, became the first king of greece, ruled for 30 years and brought bavarocracy.>later, yanya (“ioannina”), selanik (“thessaloniki”), girit (“crete”) and kıbrıs (“cyprus”) followed. by the first balkan war of 1912/13, the population had either been forcibly hellenized, massacred or expelled to what is now turkey. all under the reign of danish king “george i. of greece”.>greeks are hellenized albanians, pomaks and anatolians. this was also the mainstream view in the western world (fallmerayer theory) before pan-europeanism, designed by kalergi, took over after ww2.>fallmerayer, a critic of bavarian philhellenism, said, “not the slightest drop of undiluted hellenic blood flows in the christian population of present-day greece.”>the word “greek” doesn’t exist in the turkish, arabic or persian languages.>istanbul was never called constantinople during the ottoman empire; it was called islambol.>athens had 4,000 inhabitants in 1833 and was an albanian village.>hagia sophia was created in the 19th century by the italian fossati brothers, who later claimed it had been “restored”.>greek mythology is goyified kabbalah. father time, chronos, eating his children is actually saturn eating the goyim in the black cube time prison.>sirtaki was invented for the hollywood movie alexis zorbas.>the term greek yogurt was coined around 2001 by the fage company.
This is true. My great-great-great grandfather told us about it.
>>225787018There were no Greeks in 1821?
>>225787078ludwig von bayern?
>>225787115Nö, Heinrich von Württemberg.
>>225787177not prince christian vilhelm ferdinand adolf georg von schleswig-holstein-sonderburg-glücksburg aka "george i. of greece"?
Why does an Austrian care so much about Turkey
>>225787428Austria and Turkey have been both enemies and allies at one point.
>actual footage of "greek independence war" circa 1832
>>225787428any more ai generated memes about the fake greeks?
>>225787018You forgot to add the Illuminati being instrumental in the creation of Greece
>>225791421literally freemasonry uses greek letters, greek gods, greek rituals, greek mythology. it's their invention.the masonic "g" stands for gamma, is in reality the hebrew gimel, the camel, the animal that crosses the desert hell to transport life elixir.it's so fucking hilarious!
>>225791421>Johann Wolfgang von Goethe>Johann Gottfried von Herder>Friedrich Münter>Karl August, Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-EisenachAll members of the Illuminati who were instrumental in the creation of Greece. You also need to add the fact that Greeks spoke different languages. Pontic Greeks spoke a language called Lazika, which is unintelligble to modern Demotic Greek.
>>225791622>Albanians are genetically closer to Norwegians than Pontic Greeks are to Macedonian Greeks. Pontic Greeks live today in Greek Macedonia as they uprooted the Balkan Slavs there and replaced them with oriental pontics.
>>225791622>Lazikathe laz are a south caucasus people that has nothing to do with greek. i would laugh my ass off, if "pontic greek" language happens to be just a rip-off from laz language.but yeah, it's like a puzzle game, the more pieces you find, the more you know what a scam the whole greek identity is.
>>225791622>>225791779You do realize Serbs and Albanians have the exact same type of schizo theory about Albanians, right?
>>225787428Probably a Turk in Austria.
>>225791957your fake country literally stole one of the turkish islands ("midilli") and renamed it into lesbians.you're not quite in the right position to post orientalist gay myths.
>greeks are hellenized albanians, pomaks and anatolians. While this is true, you still logically had to have an original core group doing the assimiliation and these were the actual Greeks in Pelopones and the island + Greek diaspora. So yes, there were actual Greeks. >fallmerayer, a critic of bavarian philhellenism, said, “not the slightest drop of undiluted hellenic blood flows in the christian population of present-day greece.”Anyone can and has said this about every single nation in the area. >the word “greek” doesn’t exist in the turkish, arabic or persian languages.Wow, different laguages use different terms for the same people >athens had 4,000 inhabitants in 1833 and was an albanian village.Alright, but that doesn't mean everything else is true. >hagia sophia was created in the 19th century by the italian fossati brothers, who later claimed it had been “restored”.All modern European "castles" were restored in the 18th and 19th centuries and most don't look like their original versions at all. It doesn't mean that castles didn't exist at all. I don't even like Greeks, btw.
>>225791930>Serbs and AlbaniansI assume you mean Greeks. Their theories do not have any substance. If i was dishonest I would accuse Serbia of being a fake nation, but it is not. Greece however is. Greeks identified as Romans, spoke various languages. The Greek revolution was a result of local Albanian warriors revolting after to the Albanian rebel ruler Ali Pasha was deposed. It was reteroactively made into a "Greek" struggle by members of the Illuminati and various other philhellenes like lord Byron. Tell me, what organic national identity has a foreign king which enforces a new revived ancient name on to them?
Also the Bavarian king was actually disliked and Greeks tried to assassinate him. And he wasn't fat.
>>225792137>While this is true, you still logically had to have an original core group doing the assimiliation and these were the actual Greeks in Pelopones and the island + Greek diaspora.Peloponese (back then morea) was a majority Albanian area, ever since the mass settlement of Albanians during the late medieval period. The rebels from Morea were the former soldiers of Ali Pasha, who the Turks deposed of. They revolted following his ousting.>Anyone can and has said this about every single nation in the area.There are outside influences in most national movements. The French supported Italy and Romania. The Austrians Albania. However in none of these instances did a foreign king come and straight up mash together different peoples who spoke unrelated languages with what would have been a brand new term.
>>225792141serbia is just as much an artificial product from the 19th century nationalist era. i forgot the names of the people who invented the serbo-croatian language and serbian myths, because i seriously don't give a fuck. i only know that one of them was a viennese kek.unbeknownst to very most, the entire balkan was majorly ottoman muslim and most of them were either massacred, expelled to modern turkey or christianized by force.
>>225792223Russians supported Serbia and Bulgaria and pretty much sponsored their succsesful uprisings. However there were Serbs and Bulgarians before, and they fought for their own nation. The Greeks did not. 90% of their fighters were Aromanians(a people related to Romanians now almost all gone due to Greeks hellenizing them) and Albanians. Their struggles against the Ottomans which had deposed their previous semi-independent liege was not because of Greek nation but a general wish for freedom. Only after the allies intervened did this become a "Greek" struggle, at it was fully imposed on them by foreigners.
>>225792337Nah they are real. During medieval times balkan slavic identities were more fluid amongst eachother. But they had crystalized prior the 19th century.
>>225792141>I assume you mean Greeks.Shit, yes. I typed too fast. >It was retroactively made into a "Greek" struggle by members of the Illuminati and various other philhellenes like lord Byron. Serbs say something like intellectuals from Austro-Hungary "invented" Albanians>The Greek revolution was a result of local Albanian warriors revolting after to the Albanian rebel ruler Ali Pasha was deposed. This is true locally, but there was the whole Eteria organization from all over the Balkans.Anyway, this is a weird hill to die on. One can safely and reasonably accuse Greeks of all sorts of crimes without adding this.
Btw, Moldova and Wallachia in the 18th and early 19th centuries were literally ruled by a Greek elite.The education that was done back then for the few urban elites was mainly done in Greek, for exampleLocal Romanians even resented Greek rule. Later on removing their rule was one of the early priorities of modernizing the states. We called them "Greci" and saw them as a distinct people. Some assimilated as Romanians.But get this. This was way before 1822.Greeks were Greeks back then.And probably all their conquest and assimilation plans come from their idea that all Orthodox nations in the Balkans should be ruled by them. No Bavarian or Western ruler had to tell them this.Thy had their agendas and plans way before that;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turco-Albanian KEK still haven't recovered from that shit
>>225792811t. grandpa arrived from turkey in 1922 and didnt even know greek>>225791622
>>225792891great grandpa arrived from anatolia in 1922 after fighting in the balkan wars, WW1 and greco turkish war for 10 years sigger instead of impregnating goats in bumfuck nowhere kukës
>>225792572>Serbs say something like intellectuals from Austro-Hungary "invented" AlbaniansAustro-Hungary did not retereoactively declare a mishmash of different peoples Albanians and force them to change their own self-identifying term + assimilate minorities. AH only supported Albania once it became clear that Serbia wanted to annex us. Serbs+Montenegrins supported us more in our nationalist struggle materially by providing guns and such. Ironic.>>225792807We called the Gerk. Westerners called them Greeks wheras they themselves said tha they were Romans(Rhomoi). Turks called them Yunan or Rum. A lot of the Greeks who ruled Wallachia and Romania were actually Hellenized Aromanians. Byzantines would refuse any term like "hellene". They saw hellenes as foreigners which their ancestors conquered, and enemies of trojans which they traced their roman ancestors too. Byzantines themselves hellenized foreigners. The Anatolian languages still had speakers in the Byzantine period.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaurian_language
>>225793086Greeks stopped existing by the point the Eastern Roman Empire more or less came to be.Then mainland Greece also got swarmed by slavs and other minority groups and was ravaged by raids all the time.In fact, has there ever been a point in history except ancient greece in which mainland Greece was a point of interest and not some random areas in western anatolia or thrace?
>>225792223my nigga I don't know about Greeks but in Switzerland you're literally seen lower than literal blacks and arabs lol you're literally the lowest caste of the earth why are you on the internet shitposting about other ethnicities
>>225787018Um bros is this true?
>>225787110They were called Romaniote and had no idea what a Greek was. They couldn't even understand Greek when Anglos learned the language and spoke it to them.
>>225787018>>istanbul was never called constantinople during the ottoman empire; it was called islambol.what the fuck are you even talking about
>>225799176I think he ate mad honey o algo>>225797904>They couldn't even understand Greek when Anglos learned the language and spoke it to them.kek yeah we indeed waited for timmies to teach us our language, especially with their horrendous erasmian pronunciation
>>225794707Yes. Mainland Greece was swarmed by Slavs, then during the medieval period Albanians and Vlachs. If you look at pre medieval greeks, they were closest to Cypriots. Today, they are to Albanians. That is simply because of how much albo and vlach cum their ancestors swallowed.There are 5 Greeks with Mycenean haplogroups out of almost 2k tested samples. Turks have way more proto-Turkic DNA both paternally and autosomally than Griks have ancient greek.>>225794744Interesting as we see you as our cattle who pay kosovars infinite money for no reason in welfare, allowing them to drive in fast cars wheras the swiss struggle living month to month.
>>225794744Which they areAlso in the recent years Albanians have been making up history, see his claims aboveSuch a sad, pitiful country they are
>>225799176google islambol and dersaadet yourself, if you don't believe me.constantinople was always the name used by foreign christians with the intention to claim it.the same assholes that would 200 years later come here and call filtered yogurt as "greek yogurt".
>>225787018Is there a faker nation than yours? You are an Arab-Mongal-Kurd-Armenian-Greek mutt larping as Central Asian.>>225787428>AustrianHe is a fucking shitskin Turk not Austrian.
>>225801422Ikibey?!
>>225801422>Armeniani find it always hilarious, when people claim turks are armenians, a group of christianized ashkenazi jews who lived like ashkenazi jews in eastern europe (lemberg, budapest, several polish cities etc.) and decided to invade with the russian empire the once-azerbaijani irevan khanate in 1826 because they believe, they stranded with noah's ark in the "holy mountain ararat" and were the first people.also you are ikibey.
>>225787018>The people who make my favorite card also made my second favorite medsHow can Bayernbros be so based?
>>225787018Pretty sure they were around before that
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>>225787018I wasnt ready for this truke
>>225792811>using your own genetics as an insult against other people
>>225787018same spam thread, by the same turkroach spam bot, and mods nowhere to be seen
>>225802835>and mods nowhere to be seenkekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkoh puhleeeeaze janny, delete thread, delete kostas' bavarian roots
>>225787018>>fallmerayer, a critic of bavarian philhellenism, said, “not the slightest drop of undiluted hellenic blood flows in the christian population of present-day greece.”Nah people living in the islands are still pretty close to ancient Greek samples, mainland Greeks just have a slavic layer that makes them plot further away. Just earlier I saw on X one of those genetic proximity heat-map of an ancient Mycenean sample and the closest population were Greeks from the Saronic Islands, then southern Italians and then the Maniotes
>>225803240italians have nothing in common with modern greeks, maybe some north italians happen to share the same balkan genes like some modern fakegreeks and that's it.
>>225787018serbs are the only people in the balkans who never let a foreign king rule them
>>225787018>fallmerayer>was a German Tyrolean traveller, journalist, politician and historian>traveller, journalist, politician and historianah yes, who else would be an expert on genetics than a traveller and a journalist...
>>225805541kek
German be like, your country isn't real, it was invented.
>>225805612Genetics confirm it.>>225791779They are vastly different people, all mish mashed together by a bavarian clique.
>>225803240>Just earlier I saw on X one of those genetic proximity heat-map of an ancient Mycenean sample and the closest population were Greeks from the Saronic Islands, then southern Italians and then the ManiotesOut of 2k Griks on ftdna only 5 have mycenean haplos. The distance is superficial.
>>225807630german be like "let's invent bulgaria".
