>make a whole universe with its own logic for 10 years>scared someone will steal my art and story idea>decide to legitimate my "OCs donut steel" legally>pay $800 to start an LLC>pay $100 to establish copyright>submit one sketch as a test>realize I unintentionally started a 5 day countdown to submit all my stuff to copyright before the application closes and is sent to some guy in some office cubicle to read and approve>oh fuck>have a meltdown trying to get everything together>day 2>submit another sketch>day 3>try to submit the final PDF of the story>application already closed even though it wasn't 5 daysfuck. dont do what i did, guys. actually finish stuff first
I liked the story but it's so fake.
>>8060172nigga im urging you
You have only your tism and insecurity to blame.No one wants to steal your OC.I hope you've learned something.
>>8060171I got scared someone took my story idea off X today almost like I got hacked I had to rewatch his video a couple times to calm down.
>>8060171>decide to legitimate my "OCs donut steel" legally>pay $800 to start an LLC>pay $100 to establish copyrightso this actually works?? isnt a dated upload on some art website equally the same as proof?
>>8060191I think so... but the big companies also trademark their stuff hmmWhy would they do that?
>>8060171you dont have to submit or pay anything to have a copyright.your copyright starts the minute you make something. simple as.if you want a record, I guess you can send something to the library of congress if youre american.but i dont think its a time limited for fee application process.also, you dont need to be a business (LLC) to have a copyright.
>>8060194So he wasted $600?
>>8060196well. not if anon wants to be an llc. but it depends on the state and business as to why you would be one. for example, some states charge a general "doing business in the state" fee in places of taxes until you makes a certain amount of money, so anon might be on the hook for 800$ per year just tto claim the benefits of an LLC, which he doesnt even need, and if hes making no money from the art works... what the point? just lost money.but art exists in a different realm then tech patents and i dont know where anon lives. you dont really need to do anything to claim ownership and copyright of material you make as a creative. there are some things iirc that you can do to assist in potential litigation.tldr: maybe, likely yes.
>>8060194I wanted to stay anon so I started the LLC
>>8060171I recommend emailing them and sorting it out. It's a lot of money spent for a whole lot of nothing otherwise. They're probably happy to wait a while longer, or refund you and allow you to try again. The longer you wait, the more difficult that'll be, once they register whatever it is you already submitted.Though I haven't gone through such procedures myself, but it's just the adult thing to ask them and admit your mistake/s.>>8060194>you dont have to submit or pay anything to have a copyright.You're correct, but it is a good idea to have a something registered if you have the means, because it'll make the legitimacy of your copyright claims that much more ironclad.It's best to do it with something large, like a planned franchise, which is what OP was going for, so I think proper copyright registration is the smart move.If you've just got some doodles, or characters that you're not planning on doing anything with beyond some illustrations, yeah, paying for copyright is foolish.It's a case by case thing, but the larger the project, the more reason you should register it officially.If you're poor, and want a solid piece of evidence for your copyright, there's a classic move of sending yourself a signed physical letter of materials. This not only dates it, and shows your signature on the materials, but also creates a third party witness to your evidence (the mail service).
>>8060217You are aware that all business registrations are public, yes?
>>8060198https://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/National_News_2/Who_really_wrote_The_Matrix_1745.shtml
>>8060259https://nation.africa/kenya/news/gender/hollywood-s-greatest-heist-the-black-woman-who-created-the-matrix-and-terminator--4944194
LOL fuck this bitchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlYej2ePc90
>>8060259>>8060260So many rats have come running out of the rubbish pile claiming to have been the 'real' creators of the matrix.It says a lot that someone else was able to do so much more with their supposed idea.
>>8060196Filing is more about being able to easily prove ownership. There's always the "poor man's copyright" of sending it too yourself, so it gets dated by the post office. But that's not where OP fucked up.Copyright only protects works, not ideas, characters, or stories. There's studios that just make knockoffs of popular movies, and various instances of a character appearing in someone else's work under a different name with few if any changes. That's without getting into the bit where a work has to be finished for copyright to really be worth filing for.Fact of the matter is that anyone too lazy to come up with their own ideas is going to be too lazy to execute them, your ideas probably aren't as unique as they think they are, and the people most likely to run away and do shit with your work are fanfiction authors who want to see a given pairing hookup or otherwise change something to their liking. 90% of what makes your work yours is your unique execution, not the ideas.
>>8060171post your work
>>8060171copyright is not practically enforceable, and the act of trying to own non-tangible concepts like ideas, words, information, and digital media is extremely jewish.
>>8060174you dumb motherfucker
>>8060228I emailed them but it was the holiday so it took until today to get a response. They reopened it so I turned in all the stuff needed>it is a good idea to have a something registered if you have the means, because it'll make the legitimacy of your copyright claims that much more ironclad.exactly. and i wasn't worried about a fellow random artist on twitter making something similar to my shit and then disappearing or only to disappear off the face of earth like 3 years later like a lot of online artists, i was worried about bigger companies stealing my donuts and making $$$$ that i could've made, and then being hard to sue because they have more $$$$ than my assplus i've had this story in my head for over 10 years, can't wait to get it over with and move on with the rest of my arts... decided to motivate myself by dumping almost $1000 on it for the sunk cost fallacy
>>8060171What's the problem? Each separate thing that you make gets a separate copyright. You just have to start a new application and submit the finished work, right?
>>8060730wrong
>>8060730post foreskin
>>8061373>decided to motivate myself by dumping almost $1000 on it for the sunk cost fallacylol
>>8061476kind of odd that you'd assume someone openly against the concept of over-privatization would be circumcised.>>8061464you can copyright DNA too, by the way. i hope you're not farming corn near a megacorp, would suck if the wind cross-pollinated a patented strain :)
>>8062110Not him, but it's a proven strategy for motivation. If you're in for a penny, you're in for a pound.So to get invested, you literally invest.
>>8060217LLC ownership can be looked up
>>8060171Why? In America the moment you create something original you automatically own the copyright to it. No fines or fees are necessary.
>>8060171>Copyright Don't most people just ignore that shit. Unless you have the time and money to investigate me, find me and DMCA me, your IP is mine bitch.
>>8062196kind of odd you don't have foreskin
Well the copyright went through, bros. But fuck, now I actually have to draw my comic that I've been thinking about for over 10 years.. time to outline the actual comic chapters and plan the panels and all that...
>>8064687Better be the best fucking comic of all times after all of this retarded hype you put us through.
>>8060251Unless you register through an agent
>>8064687>>8060171i'll edit the thumbnails (text + sketches) for you for free, constructive feedback only no random slander, drop a burner email.
>>8065923sure[email protected]
>>8060183U sure about that?
>>8060217As someone who does work with the city and often has to prove primary ownership of LLCs, nah, having an LLC does not make anything private at all. You can look up the owners easy as fuck. I'm not even talking using city resources for it. Just google and a few minutes. Even for small time stuff like a taco business out the back of someone's house you can find names easy.
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>>8060259The real creator was Philip K Dick, with his novel The Simulacra (1964)
