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Are there any resources, channels, courses or whatever that deal with the process of actually producing original paintings, eg market research, deciding on a subject, size, composition, color composition etc?NOT some theorytard rambling about geometry and made up bullshit, actually producing paintings
>>8058604Thats a bunch of vague ideas. Theres countless resources online to learn how to paint. I would focus on looking inward and figure out what subjects you want to paint. Thats not really something you can gain from a course or whatever. Its from within
>>8058604Is tarted doing that once, now i draw comics.
>>8058616Learn English.
>>8058622Okay learn how to google you fucking retard. Your question makes no sense. Size composition! Geometry! I can tell you have definitely tried to learn how to paint. Cant wait to see what you produce in the future bro. Fucking retard
>>8058626>>8058622
>Thats a bunch of vague ideas. Theres countless resources online to learn how to paint. I would focus on looking inward and figure out what subjects you want to paint. Thats not really something you can gain from a course or whatever. Its from within
>>8058604? that's retarded, it's not that seriousmarket research: look at artists you like who are successful in the market and take ideas from themsubject: something popularsize: something manageable so you aren't left with a gigantic painting if it doesn't sell (probably wont if youre asking this question)composition: depends on the subject
this is what happens when you start the thread with too old feet
>>8058604noe of your examples deal with producing original paintings and everything you dismsiss has to do with producing original paintings.just so you know.
>>8059018pyw
>>8058604Ignore the nodraws, Loomis talks about some aspects of it in the later books, though mostly in the context of commercial work rather than selling.
>>8058574
>>8059050post your clear coherent text that isnt utterly idiotic and asking for marketing reports
>>8059107kek even you know you suck lololo
>>8059110i dontbut you likely doBYE!!
>>8059089>i'll learn commercial art strategies from a book published not only before AI, but literally approaching 100 years agogood luck with that. you realize magazines don't want intricate painted covers like norman rockwell right?this board is so funny sometimes
>jeets think AI competes with paintersYikes.
>>8059115Commercial art strategies lol. That's whats holding you back. You simply haven't found the proper instructional to explain commercial art strategies while also telling you which subject to paint. And of course - you wouldnt want to paint like Rockwell! Duh! Bringing up magazines is a curve ball. Probably evidence of the third world shit hole you come from
Is everyone here a brown ESL or what? These “conversations” don’t even make sense
>>8059237this thread used to be one of the good ones but not anymore, there is this one nodraw german shitposter that doesn't know fuckshit that keeps posting his shit opinions and inane attempts at picking fights that ruin these threads. Pretty certain he's the fag stirring shit in this one too.
>>8059245No, it's the favela retard
Hungry ratto
>>8059329Cute!
>>8059329Really cool! But the ring on the ear bothers me because a ring would probably slide right off a flimsy rat ear. Maybe it could be on the ground or something
>>8059251in this instance I'm objectively correct thoughkeep in mind I've actually sold artwork which almost no one here has.
>>8059348shut up, retard
>>8059356I get its the focal point and is supposed to be a crown. Its just very distracting if you've ever handled a rat. That ring is sliding off instantly. Maybe the composition could be changed to have a rat on the ceiling carrying the ring to still have the crown symbol
>>8059360shut up, retard
>>8059348>akshully>>8059360>akshully-erAll aboard the autist express! Choo-choo!
>>8059348>>8059360>I can look past the pack of vampiric maneating rats.>but the EARRRRRRR!!! IT BREAKS MY IMMERSION!!!
>>8059455Nta but it is a legit critique. You're just being a bad actor, one of the infuriating fags making these threads shit with incessant contrarianism.
>>8059617>contrarianismLook up the definition of words before using them.
>>8059617shut up, retard
>>8059556Lol good work but reminds me of Chad. Eyes are creepy yet beautiful
is brian okay?
>>8059624You should take your own advice.
>>8059617your autistic pet peeve is not a legit critique
>>8059348>>8059360it's a valid critique
>>8059360>this is le distracting, the masks would just slide off a turtle's head, it's le distracting if you've ever handled a turtle, maybe you can have it so the mask is around their neck instead hurr durr btwThis is what you sound like
>>8059691are you really this retarded or are you just pretending?
>>8059714It's both, he is a retard and he is shitting up the thread.>>8059672Is he still a permabag?
>>8059455Yes. Even if the ear was abnormally stiff - rats run with a leaping gait. Theres no fucking way that ring is staying there. Theres a million explanations for how a finger could get chopped or bitten off. The location of the ring also pushes a narrative. If its on the ground, below the rats it implies nobility has fallen and chaos has taken over. Or in OPs case, its adorned like a crown which could be pushing the rat himself as a sort of Redwall villain who now has power.
>>8059728Autists should be kept locked up and beaten.
>>8059733Your mom should have swallowed.
>>8059735Yours did last night
Jesus fucking Christ. I just came back to the thread. All I did was post a picture of my silly rat painting.Anyway. Here's a wip.
>>8059762Actually fire doesn't burn like that
>>8059762The miniature looked like a chiaroscuro of a woman with drapery and i was like "wtf thats one lf the most beautiful paintings i have ever seen", then i was disappointed, but yeah great colors in the trees and fireThe other guy is a faggot, who cares what fire looks like
>>8059823>The miniature looked like a chiaroscuro of a woman with draperyWell, I can try to appease.
>>8059787Stop being a retard
>>8059873There is no chiaro in this, i meant more georgian era drapery
>>8059926>proofs my point
>>8059873Looks like a boss in blasphemous. Great work.
>>8059787akshually pyw
>>8059938just imagine a gust of wind. Never been outside?I like the work
Will we ever get rid of this exceedingly brown ESLer who harrasses everyone?
>>8060015Post nose.
>>8059672just watched it. it's pretty basic black pill material, it will be considered settled scientific fact in 10 years. the idea that women ever cared about "personality" is laughable, even ancient greeks and romans wrote about how this is delusional bullshit and laughed at people who jestermaxxed for whoresthe white or clear pill which took me 10 years of being giga turbo blackpilled to realize is that since, there's zero chance of the current situation changing in any way, and nothing we do or say will change it in any way, that means there's no point talking about it or wasting time thinking about it anymoreif you can't give a clear reasoning for why x bad situation will change (and in this case, it won't, it will just get worse and worse until polygamy is normalised for chads) then there's no point discussing it or caring in any way. it's kind of like immigration. the basic fact, even putting aside kalergi plan barbara spectre stuff, is that elites and business owners (medium and large businesses like farmers ranchers construction companies) want to use foreign workers as leverage to drive down domestic workers bargaining rights and be able to replace them if they try to unionize or organize in any way against their business interests. unless that fact changes (it won't) there's zero point arguing about or trying to discuss the topic, because what happens is when you point this out, people don't want to hear about it and they get angry and try to take away your opportunitiesit's the same when you read news stories about train doe whorenell giga stacy snizzat loss, or whatever foid of the week news story or dumb lib shit is being put out for the goyim to slurp up. there's no point discussing how stupid and retarded liberals are because they will just find a way to attack you, and there's also no chance of it changing because the underlying forces aren't political but technological (or "forces of capitalism" )-favela
ain't reading that, you're mentally ill
>>8060616it's not for you nigga it's for your mom
>>8060611what does this have to do with traditional art
>>8060918Nobody likes the stupid nigger irl so this is the only social outlet he has, but he's too low IQ to realize nobody here cares about him either
>>8060950You lack a little bit in value and edge control, but otherwise pretty nice.
>>8060970ur mom likes me
>>8060950why'd you leave the leaves
i've been stuck on this painting for almost a month. cant find motivation to finish it.
a little bit of fish
>>8060611shut the fuck up
>>8061178It's not that bad, but i don't see why it would take so long.>>8061520The background looks out of place, the fish is cool though.
>>8061544>The background looks out of placeI tried to create a bokeh effect
>>8061544>It's not that bad, but i don't see why it would take so long.i'm laaaazy.
>>8062326you're a nodraw nigger, drop the cutesy cope
>>8058604Loomis creative illustration
>>8059095Handsome fella
>>8058574Self portrait. Coming to terms with my painting style- as I learn the craft I want to master this weird look, but obviously with more skillful execution
>>8065449Blind guesswork is not a 'style'.
>>8065514Nothing blind nor guessed here anon- it was a self portrait, so every decision was intentional. But if you say so
>>8065676>every decision was intentionalThe decision to barely half-ass it?
>>8065690Wasn’t half assed at all. It was a portrait I made to represent how I felt at the time
>>8065718>to represent how I felt at the timeIndolent?
>>8065718why do you feel badly painted?
>>8065736Not at all>>8065799I don’t think it’s bad at all. I think you only see it as bad because you’re comparing it to other paintings and not seeing it as its own piece of work
>>8065809you think like you paint
>>8065846>>8065809>>8065799>>8065736>>8065718>>8065690>>8065676>>8065514aids
>>8065860A scared dog barks the loudest
>>8065864shut the fuck up and post trad art
>>8065860It’s hilarious that painting causes so much discourse in these threads. Truly a controversial medium
>>8058574Just finished another *gasp* painting. Bob Ross twin peaks study
>the nodraw is posting porn ow
>>8062949i actually draw a lot but i'm feeling kinda afraid to finish that bug art, i really like bugs and i don't want to mess up this one since it is my first.
>>8067691Is that what i think it is?
>>8063849>>8066391cool and expressive, nice!
>>8067777
>>8067693It’s a dead bird so probably not.>>8067777Thank you! The possession piece was so much fun. Great work from you as well, big fan oc that background especially. I love seeing the torso simplified yet anatomically accurate
Damn this thread is dry, are there less traditional artists on this board than I thought?
>>8068556it's not a fast board
shits turning into deviantart
>>8065921Wtf even is this dude. Is following a Bob Ross video too hard for you? He lays out his entire palette and shows every stroke... how do you end up with this shit?
>>8068777It’s almost like I’m not trying to get a 1:1 copy of what he’s doing. The video was for direction, not to make my work look exactly like his.
>>8068788>It’s almost like I’m not tryingNo. This is very much authentic good old fashioned 'not trying'.
>>8065921I really like the atmosphere, and the colour choices (and I can tell how into the painting you got and that's always interesting in how it shows) but I think your value range is too narrow, which makes the painting flatter than it feels like it could be. I think the composition is solid, but if you were to ever revisit this I'd try to make stronger tonal differences between your foreground and middle, maybe commit harder to the red and warmer tones you've got going on in the foreground trees so the illusion of depth becomes more convincing.That said, this is only a problem I can identify because it's something I struggle a lot with too, so take what I say with a grain of salt, I'm far from any mastery and it's typically the most common criticism I get with my own stuff.
>>8069991Thanks for the crit, really. I have a long way to go with painting (I’ve made less than 10 my entire art career) so any and all crit and help is useful.
>>8059873Is this for sale? I would love to use it in a card game I'm working on
>>8069991>>8070013This is really pathetic. If you're going to samefag to make ass-kissing fake crits of your own terrible art, at least change up your obvious typing quirks from one post to the next.
>>8070013I hear you man, I just started my first full-size painting in like a decade and the thing I miss the most has been easy access to good critique. Keep painting and posting bro.
>>8058574Recent trad stuff I scanned. Can blow anything up if anyone asks.
>>8070797Can I see the duck?
>>8070812They’re egrets actually.
>>8070797I like it
>>8070797Can you post on of line drawing? What scanner do you use?
>>8070888This is a screenshot from my gallery, I have an epson es50. The actual image res is 6387x9107. Which is cropped from whatever the scan was.
>>8070892The lines look a little bit soft. What would you say, how god is the scan compared to the original?I'm looking for something decent for my manga.
>>8070894Yeah the lines might be soft because of either my scanner settings or the iPhone compression. And or both. The scanner has a ton of settings you can mess with so I’d definitely recommend it, it’s pretty small tho, like A5 or whatevr 8.5x11 is. Maximum. But I like it it a lot.
>>8065809>I want to be judged in isolation from the art world so that my indolence can be interpreted as revolutionaryyour self portrait has so much personal depth and such expression in your brushstrokes. the form is so barely readable that it makes it feel like you're fading away.. Oh you masterful artist, oh tormented soul, show us the beauty of this world by defining pretension. Lead us to salvation from a world of lust and greed, a world where we must cower in darkness and only gaze our reflections against still puddles under streetlamps. Oh woe, the ache deep in my chest when I view this paste scraped across a panel; I may never breathe unburdened again!
>>8070899I think i would prefer a flatbed scanner i don't trust the scrolling mechanism.
What are helpful sources to understand the neck and slope of the far side shoulder in 3/4 standing pose? Somehow I always fuck up these distances.
>>8070770>>8070892siiick
>>8071351this is not /beg/ despite all evidence to the contrary
>>8070770Lovely colors and composition, is this from life?
How do you deal with the paper transferring step in trad? It has to be the most annoying aspect of trad. You want to have a good paper but you don't want to sketch on it. It's just so annoying always having to redo the lines just to transfer a drawing onto good paper. This always just makes me do sketches and never do color works.
>>8071539I'm pretty sure Steve Zapata had a video on that subject, but i can't find it. Maybe he references it in this stream though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAi7BDOH-sM
It seems like holbein is changing their initial pbr7 pigment to pr101 synthetic iron oxide for their burnt watercolor paint (sienna and umber) formulation following schmincke and winsor newton footsteps. While the synthetic version of this specific pigment is transparent, clean, and have its lightfastness and permanence guaranteed, but it tends to lose a bit of granulation and other natural earth characteristics that pbr7 had in its paints. So if youre a HWC user and happen to use their burnt umber and burnt sienna, you'd probably want to know about this
>>8071378>>8070192>>8068760pyw
>>8072207there's a reason everyone stopped posting, this thread is embarrassing to be seen in
>>8071539get a lightbox
>>8072207Don’t even acknowledge those people, it’s exactly why these threads turn into shit flinging competitions with barely any actual art posted. There’s always gonna be someone with something to say, and it’s better to just ignore them.
>>8072207Now you!Happy Halloween, /trad/!
