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    Why do they seethe at spaniards when it was literally their own ancestors that conquered and colonized mexico not the ancestors of spaniards same with african-americans they're the ones who are all literally the actual descendants of all the slaveowners not white americans.
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    >>18766509
    the drunken bong tourists on table six need more paella and cervezas, manolo - andele, andele!
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    >>18766509
    >Why do they seethe at spaniards when it was literally their own ancestors that conquered and colonized mexico not the ancestors of spaniards same with african-americans they're the ones who are all literally the actual descendants of all the slaveowners not white americans.
    Some stayed, others returned, and still others left descendants on both sides of the Atlantic (such as Pedro de Alvarado or Cortés himself).
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    >>18766510
    You're brown
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    >You're brown
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    1. Because every country wants to create their own national identity. This involves rejecting former conquerors
    2. Because Spain tried their hardest to butt-fuck Mexico/the Mexican nation in the 1800s
    3. Because some of them look at the Spanish as ruining a society that already existed, which they feel "more closer" to, and not the Spanish conquistadors, who they look at as invaders
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    >>18766840
    >O algo
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    >>18766509
    Same with spaniards, it was literally their own moor ancestors that conquered spain
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    >>18766509
    The average Mexican today doesn't get their Spanish admixture from conquistadors, who were mostly extremadurans and upper class castillians. They're descendants of dirt poor gallegos and rural people who arrived in the late 18th-19th centuries along with whatever local indios they mixed with.

    mexico went through many social reforms and shifts in labor demands over centuries. I don't know why everyone assumes every single Spaniard that went to the Americas was part of the elite.
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    >>18766510
    >>18766510
    Why are latinx acting like Bongland is not tremendously more fucked than Spain is on pretty much every aspects including the economic one.
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    >>18767114
    Spaniards have less than 5% nafri DNA, which was already there since at least the roman period. Spaniards don't speak Arabic.
    Latinx are over 50% Spanish genetically on average and close to 80% of their YDNA is Spanish. And they obviously, somewhat, speak Spanish
    There's simply no comparison no matter how much you try to cope with this.
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    >>18766510
    Spain is wealthier than the UK lel.
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    >>18766509
    Robust warrior skulled mestizos cuck spanish cucks and fuck their women in spain its only increasing due to more and more migration
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    >>18767355
    Based.
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    >>18767114
    >Moor
    >originally Gothic
    No argument faggot
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    >>18767355
    Cringe.
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    >>18767329
    >>18767334
    spaniards are still working 10 hours a day to be slaves for tourists for a 1200€ salary
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    >>18767372
    7 to 8 hours and most people working for minimum wages in the tourist sector these days are immigrants
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    >>18767364
    >>18767368
    Manolos get cucked by sudacas like crazy but think they are some sort of chads
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    >>18766510
    They resent tourism buts it's the only reason they aren't congo tier
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    >>18767445
    Pancha women in Spain are all prostitutes or marrying ugly or old manolos for money. Pancho men are low birth rate incels working low wage jobs that natives don't want to do.
    >>18767455
    Having a booming touristic industry is actually a major first world pointer, because who want to visit a violent filthy shithole.
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    >>18767331
    Nope, all iberians have like 25% non-european admixture (including negroid admixture) dated to Al-Andalus + they all look all brown and nonwhite. Meanwhile there are millions of unmixed natives in latin america
    >Spaniards don't speak Arabic.
    Spanish is mixed with arabic, just like your culture, your food, your religion and genetics all come from the middle east
    >>18767365
    You're brown.
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    >>18767608
    >bald spicniard castrated cuck calling anyone "low birth rate"
    lmao you moor rapebabies are literally going extinct and getting replaced by latinos and africans as we speak
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    >>18767870
    wtf?
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    >>18766509
    This thread drew out all the latinx with cuck fetishes
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    >>18767946
    >latinx with cuck fetishes
    cool it with the anti-spanish remarks
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    >>18767948
    Kek
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    >>18767870
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    >>18767870
    >>18767876
    Look in the mirror. Nvm, you probably don't have one in your mudhut
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    >>18767870
    >Ghose
    SAAAAAAAAAR
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    Also Iranic Alans and Persians during Al-Andalus.

    >During the rule of Almanzor's Amirí regime, the already-rich Al-Andalus slave market reached unprecedented proportions. For example, the Moorish chronicles mention that after destroying Barcelona in July 985, Almanzor brought seventy thousand chained Christians to the great market of Córdoba[317] and, after destroying Simancas in July 983, he captured seventeen thousand women[374] and imprisoned ten thousand nobles.[483] Obviously, these figures must be carefully evaluated, but likewise given the enormity this type of trade reached during his tenure, Almanzor is described as "the slave importer".[317] The commoners of Córdoba even asked his successor to stop the trade since, to get a good husband for their daughters they had to raise the dowries to exorbitant levels because the young Christian slaves were so numerous and cheap that many men preferred to buy them instead of marrying Muslims.[484]

    Iranian and North African Y-DNA in Iberians

    https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18414604/#q18415256


    https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18414604/#q18415272
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    >>18768180
    Not the chinkspammer
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    Because the actual people who did the conquering and colonizing were and identified themselves as Spaniards at the time?

    It's not complicated

    Actually, I guess it is, in the sense that most of the forces doing the conquering were really native city-states and armies the Spanish merely allied with or then used for manpower once they were in charge
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    >>18767870
    the nafri is 5% and it's largely dated to the roman period
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    >>18768323
    Don't feed the shitskin
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    >>18768180
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    >>18766509

    One of the biggest sources of friction between Spain and Latin America today is the fact that Imperial Spain often ruthlessly suppressed anyone who advocated self-rule and virtually all of these countries were only able to gain independence through violent armed struggle. It's no accident Latin America started breaking away during the Peninsular War when Napoleon's occupation of Iberia effectively broke Spanish power.
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