Why did fascists idolize Greece and Rome when they were massive degenerates who enjoyed nutting inside puer delicati (femboys)?
>>18766413Same reason why e-Christians claim Plato was a monotheist despite him being a proto-Gnostic whose philosophy was far too entrenched in paganism to be truly reconciled with Christianity
Regular reminder there is no evidence that the Warren cup is Roman. It just appears in the 19th century with zero provenance.
>>18766413Mussolini never criminalized homosexuality though he did extra-judicially imprison gays.
>>18766470I feel like Mussolini personally wouldn't have a prejudice against gays it was probably just low IQ reactionaries that he had to put up with who wanted that. Even Hitler wasn't homophobic until Himmler and Heydrich framed Roehm
>>18766413This board is really gay so I don't think they care
>>18766413>Fascists hated fagsKek
>>18766413>enjoyed nutting inside puer delicati (femboys)?Was that common? I thought anal was rare and they mostly just fucked the gap in their soft thighs
>>18766413All the nations that worship the false gods, who are demons, are overcome with degenerate desires and impulses because those nasty and dirty spirits go inside them and take over their minds and hearts.
>>18766592This is literally what the dancing boy Islamists say about prophet Muhammad raping 6 years old Aicha. The Indian-Euro/Semitic Abrahamic Aryan fags rewrite their pedofaggotry into Divine Love while they call other people degenerate savages.
>>18766592some are translated as "thighs" others as penetration, before soap I would assume the former was more desirable but it seems both were options>. . . While one loves boys among the lovely flowers of youth,>Desiring their thighs and sweet mouths.— Solon, fragment 25 West>[537a] By Delphinius Apollo, here Crimon penetrated the son of Bathycles, brother of . . .>[538b] Here Crimon penetrated Amotion.— Graffiti from Thera = Inscriptiones Graecae>[8] (early fifth century) Hegestratus had intercourse with me.>[23] (second quarter of fifth century) Sydromachus of the gaping anus submitted.— Inscriptions on Athenian Vases = Athenian Agora>If a beautiful boy doesn’t give his ass to be fucked, may he not get a fuck when he falls in love with a beautiful girl.— Greek graffito from Stabiae>Herakleitos was fair, when there was a Herakleitos, but now that his prime is past, a screen of hide[2] declares war on those who are behind-mounters. But, son of Polyxenos, seeing this, be not insolently haughty. Even on the buttocks too there is a Nemesis growing.— Meleagros 33, Greek Anthology>The Hours and Graces shed sweet oil on you, buttocks, and you do not let even old men sleep. Tell me, whose are you, blessed one, and which of the boys do you adorn? The buttocks answered: “Menekrates’.— Rhianos 38, Greek Anthology>Once a trainer, opportunely instructing a smooth lad,>Getting him to his knees, worked over his middle,>Touching the boy’s nuts with his hand. But by chance>The master came, seeking the boy.>Quickly the trainer, bracing him with his feet, turned the boy>On his back and with his hand grasped the boy’s throat.>However, the master, not unskilled in wrestling, said to him:>“Stop. You are,” said he, “gagging the kid.”— Strato, AP
>>18766491Didn't he have Röhm killed? Maybe they were ambivalent at first them turned on the gays later.
>>18766672Rohm was killed because he didn't want to cuck out to the elites
>>18766672Hitler reportedly didn't have a problem with Rohm's sexuality
>>18766688Clearly he did as he would later go through the trouble of putting homosexuals in camps. He was probably biding his time, every so often someone turns out to be a homosexual and it wasn't worth kicking up dust over it in the critical years during his rise to power.
>>18766761You underestimate the amount of leeway Hitler gave his subordinates to do random shit. Himmler was the main architect of the Homocaust. Himmler was absolutely obsessed by the question of homosexuality from before he even joined the Nazi Party (his juvenile diary entries show this). I doubt Hitler even came up with the idea of the Jewish Final Solution either. Hitler was probably ambivalent to the fates of homosexuals and soured on them after the Night of the Long Knives, but I seriously doubt he ever had plans to eliminate them from the beginning. Notably other Nazis like Bormann and Goering were more tolerant of homos too
>>18766669I love these. Roman Graffiti and Bronze Age correspondences are my favorite primary sources.
>>18766771Why didn't Hitler notice Himmler had gone full autism?
>>18766937He was acting like a normal German.
>>18766413Cause they're gay
>>18767451Why were so many gay? Aren't only 5% of the population gay? Why wasn't homosexuality suppressed as it was after Christianity took root? Does paganism have homosexual tendencies?
>>18766428>plato >proto-gnosticYeah and Julius Caesar was proto National-Socialist by your logic
>>18768234Christianity only suppresses certain homosexual acts. Sodomy refers to someone of lower social status taking a dominant role in a same-sex relationship specifically, because sexual roles were partially tied to social status in the ancient world (women were always at the bottom of the social food chain, that's why the Bible never explicitly forbids lesbian sex, just women having sex with animal). It wasn't until later on that the term "sodomy" became a blanket term for same sex relationships in general
>>18768238Just read Plato, he literally goes on and on about how the material world is an imperfect and inferior copy of the spiritual one and that the god who created this world (the demiurge) is not the first cause of everything or even omnipotent
>>18766669>Sydromachus of the gaping anus
>>18766937Hitler clearly wanted an autism-in-chief, and Himmler was the man for the job.
>>18768239>Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor malakoi (GAY BOTTOMS), nor arsenokoitai (GAY TOPS)Paul literally says fags are going to Hell and you're twisting the Word to what you want it to say.
>>18766669I understand this is about thighs vs anal, but when people use such things as evidence that gay sex was everywhere and unremarkable in ancient Greece--don't people usually write vulgar confessions on graffiti, not what's normal? These just read like ancient smut.
>>18768234It's more that the scriptures of a certain bunch of provincial homosexuality hating weirdos got coopted in to a universalist religion.
>>18768333malakoi = femininearsenokoitai = masculineYou are the one misinterpreting Paul. He's saying that no sinner is spared Hell regardless of your background, he's not saying that these are in and of themselves sinful
>>18766428In dialogues like The Republic (Book II), Plato posits a singular, ultimate source of goodness and truth—the Form of the Good—and speaks of "the god" in the singular. He argues that God is strictly good, unchanging, and incapable of evil.The Form of the Good is an impersonal, transcendent absolute—the ultimate "Form" from which all other ideals (like truth, beauty, and justice) derive their meaning and reality. It acts like the sun in the Republic, which illuminates the visible world so we can see it. Plato treats it as divine in status, calling it the supreme principleLater Christian thinkers merged Platonic and biblical ideas. They identified Plato's Form of the Good with God—specifically the idea that God is the Supreme Good, where goodness is not an abstract rule above God, but flows directly from God's own essential nature.Ultimately, Augustine argued that Platonism was the closest any human philosophy came to Christian truth through natural reason alone—yet it remained inherently fractured by its pagan, polytheistic compromises and lack of Christ's direct revelation.In other dialogues like Timaeus, Plato introduces the Demiurge (a craftsman deity who shapes the material universe based on the Forms) alongside cosmic, celestial gods and intermediary entities (daimons).Plato's sharp division between the perfect, eternal Realm of Forms and the flawed, shifting material world laid the direct groundwork for Gnosticism.Gnostics took this Platonic duality to an extreme, equating the material world with literal evil or ignorance and viewing the Demiurge as a flawed or malicious lesser god. This structural alignment is so deep that a fragment of Plato’s Republic was famously found buried in the ancient Gnostic text cache at Nag Hammadi.
>>18766669>>If a beautiful boy doesn’t give his ass to be fucked, may he not get a fuck when he falls in love with a beautiful girl.lol
>>18768348Plato and Xenophon’s dialogues show a heavily homosexual milieu
>>18768348>These just read like ancient smut.That's part of it. Ancient graffiti was an outlet for Dominance (bragging about sexual exploits) and to humiliate rivals (I fucked Antonius' butthole in front of his family)The Thighs vs. Anal Same-sex desire was certainly a recognized, structured part of ancient Greek elite culture, but upper-class same-sex courtship (the pederastic relationship between an older citizen and a younger youth) was bound by strict, highly conservative social rules. It was supposed to be an educational, honorable relationship based on restraint, mentorship, and mutual respect.The Norm: Literary sources, legal speeches, and high-end vase paintings emphasize that intercrural (between the thighs) sex was the socially approved, noble standard. It preserved the physical integrity and future citizen status of the youth because he was not being "penetrated" or treated like a woman or a slave.If a citizen crossed the line from the socially sanctioned, restrained courtship into what the culture deemed excessive, passive, or purely hedonistic, he faced severe political disenfranchisement
>>18766937I mean he could have seen it coming seeing he had no chin
>>18768520No? Xenephon maybe, but definitely nothing in Plato.
I have a theory that sylphium consumption was the cause, altering hormonal conditions in the womb causing homosexuality
>>18768454Yeah he's saying any sinners including fags, both effeminate bottoms and sodomites alike, are not making it to Heaven, because these are examples of sexual sin. Is he not saying fornication, idolatry, and adultery are sins either? He didn't say "any sinner, man, woman, and femboy alike." He listed other obvious sexual sins, then listed what was basically a gay bottom femboy in ancient Greece, then listed sodomites of such boys. Once more, you're completely ignoring obvious context clues because you don't want it to say what it says.https://biblehub.com/greek/3120.htmhttps://biblehub.com/greek/733.htm
>>18766413Everyone enjoys femboys. Only people who haven't tried it don't enjoy it. No homo.
>>18768454>>18769076This is the following verse btw, which is a continuation of the same sentence as the original manuscripts didn't have verse separations:>nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.So Paul listed all of these sins in the context of those not entering God's kingdom, and in the middle of them he decided to randomly list these words that merely mean "feminine and masculine" according to you?
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