>calls the Creator as 'Abba', "father">breaking with the traditional jewish view, cold and impersonal, of the relationship between the Creator and the human being>Zeus Pater / Jupiter literally means "Heaven / Sky Father">early portrays of him show him being beardless and dressed like a greco-roman philosopher>despite being circumcised, never forced that upon their followers>his disciple Saul, later known as Saint Paul, goes further and was against it (Antiochus IV Epiphanes vindicated)>dismantles militaristic jewish nationalism, breaking with the collective notion of the messiah being a military leader>acknowledge the terrenal authority of the Caesar, the Chosen of Jupiter to rule the World >never attacks nor demands to destroy the pagan temples and statues that exist all over Judea>never attacks Hellenized jews that refuse circumcision and appreciate the natural (naked) beauty of the human body
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>>18764547Jesus is not Jahwe, because Jesus is just conglomerate of all different sects from the time like Neopithagoreans, Orfeans, Isis cult, Mithra cult, Dionysus cult and even great matrice cult which had selfcastrating males there (this is where the NT Mt 19:12 comes from and other parts about cutting of pieces of body).What had happened with NT is exactly what had happened with OT when Septuigant was written.Jews took interesting ideas and myths that people around them were following and united it into one jewish bullshit.Imagine a typical shitty kid at school who brags about how he has everything trendy at home and how his parents are cool. You show him your PS6 he says - duuh you looser I have PS8 at home! Can you see it? Of course no! He doesn't deal with losers like you!This kid is a Jew. This is how Judaism and OT came to be. They took the most inspiring or the most well known stories put them together and shoved it into faces of other "look our god did all this but better!!!!"Then came Saul of Tarsus and Jewsus. And this is exactly the same fucking story! Uhh you have these cool gods and saints and healers - but our Jewsus did it all by himself and did it better!!! Sad thing it actually was a hit among retards and slaves like Trump is hit among complete idiots - so it took roots. Fast forward everyone is talking about it like it is truth while it was jewish bullshit since the beginning.
>>18764547Justin Martyr tried to explain the parallels by saying demons preemptively copied Christianity before the religion was revealed.
>>18764572And he was a retard. Apologetics in general are retards who deserve enslavement
>>18764547>AbbaI thought this was a Swedish pop group from the 80s
>>18764572I know about that apology, funny how he omits all the acts of cruelty, degeneration, and perversion that Yahweh (the father of Jesus, allegedly) has committed.Last time I checked, Jupiter didn't create Mankind through the incest between the first man, Adam, and his trans clone, Eve. And Jupiter also didn't recreate Mankind through another second massive incest between Noah, his wife and his three male sons.Furthermore, let us not forget how christianity drove Justin to madness and to castrate himself, that's circumcision to a new level.
no, paul was
>>18764547he looks very close to rabbinic judaism, which itself was the move away from temple worship toward community worship.some apocryphal gospels will look hellenized, but the canonical ones were chosen for their continuity with second temple judaism and the "intertestimental" period>>18765605pretty much
>>18764547>>18765609Jesus had Pharisaic ties. Note that the Pharisees back then, the precursors of Rabbinic Judaism, had two schools: one of Hillel, and one of Shammai. Shammai's school was generally more strict than Hillel's. Jesus straight up quotes Hillel in his "love thy neighbor" commandment. Moreover, it is likely that whenever Jesus actually treats Pharisees and "Teachers of the Law" favorably, he's talking about Hillel-aligned scholars. Shammai-aligned ones, Sadduccees, and the Temple priests were all "brood of vipers". Note that Gamaliel, teacher of Paul and who acts favorably towards Christians, is Hillel's grandson.Jesus also had Essene ties. Essenes were a Jewish sect from the period, and John the Baptist is regarded to have been an Essene. Jesus holds some of the messianic death views and the institution of a bread and wine meal that the Essenes mention in their (scant) texts. There may or may not have been apocalyptic views he shared in common with them.Jesus was also deeply theologically liberal in his interpretation of Jewish law, whether Hillel-Pharisaic or Essene. Hence "my yoke is easy". While there are undoubtedly Hellenic influences, the Hellenism naturally springs from Pharisaic and more broadly Jewish interpretation, which adopted some Hellenic ideas after Alexander. If Jesus was Hellenized to any degree, it's because that was the norm among Jews then.
>>18764547No. He was basically an odd type of Pharisee with Messiahnic tendencies.>despite being circumcised, never forced that upon their followersAll of Jesus' followers were circumcised Jews, so obviously it's not something he'd mention.>his disciple Saul, later known as Saint Paul,Never met the man in life. Not an actual disciple.>dismantles militaristic jewish nationalism, breaking with the collective notion of the messiah being a military leaderJesus didn't do that though. This is not even a matter of textual interpretation, he literally did not.>never attacks nor demands to destroy the pagan temples and statues that exist all over JudeaHe was ministering for the Jews first and foremost so I don't know why he'd bother with that. >never attacks Hellenized jews that refuse circumcision and appreciate the natural (naked) beauty of the human bodyAs if there are any of those in the 1st century Galilee, are you kidding me?Also if you think that Painting of Gustave Moreau and a Mosaic of Jesus is evidence you are stupid.
>>18764547>>early portrays of him show him being beardless and dressed like a greco-roman philosopherThe first extant portrait of him depicts him with a donkey head, based on the popular greco-roman belief the Jews worship a donkey-headed god of Chaos.
>>18764547>calls the Creator as 'Abba', "father">breaking with the traditional jewish view, cold and impersonal, of the relationship between the Creator and the human being7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.Psalm 2:7-8
>>18764547It's obscured somewhat by the Greek, which promotes a certain way of speaking and thinking, but you can still see the differences between the Gospels and the Epistles--both in the degree to which propositional thought is used to convey meaning and in the range of semantic choices.Hebrew and Aramaic are extremely verb-oriented and rely heavily on actions, events, places, repetition, and other story-like constructions. Because the West inherited so much more from the Greco-Roman world, the words of Jesus perpetually look bizarre even when translated. Even more so, the text reads like a translation from Hebrew/Aramaic and is essentially poor grammar from a Greek perspective.On the other hand, Paul looks more familiar in the way he attempts to break everything down into logical/legal/philosophical arguments. His writings are more typical of how Greek manuscripts should look. Clearly he had been highly Hellenized in order to produce such works.
>>18765605this
>>18764547>breaking with the traditional jewish view, cold and impersonalHave you ever read the Old Testament? It's full of passages about how loving and merciful God is. Go to just about any chapter in Psalms, for example.
>>18764547>appreciate the natural (naked) beauty of the human bodyHe also said it is a grave sin to even lust after a woman one is not married to, so I don't think he was sympathetic to that idea.
>>18764547>traditional jewish view, cold and impersonal, of the relationship between the Creator and the human beingLol wut? God told Pharaoh: Israel is my firstborn son.I don't think you've read a single page of the original testament.
>>18764547>An Hellenized SAAAAAR
