If Jesus could heal a blind person he happened to meet, why not heal blindness?
>>18764311Jesus performed individual miracles not to cure all physical suffering on Earth, but to fulfil Old Testament messianic prophecies
>>18764311What do you mean? He did.
>>18764320Why are there still blind people?
>>18764321Well he didn't heal all blind people, but he did heal blindness.
>>18764332>Well he didn't heal all blind peopleWhy not? Isn't he supposed to be all good and benevolent
>IF GOD REAL, WHY BAD?!!!!
>>18764311You're too proud to understand that evils exist in the world because we deserve to suffer them. And even that is mercy compared to what we actually deserve.If you take refuge in God he forgives your guilt and then he can heal you.
>>18764447>never adequately answered this questionOriginal sin is not an answer. God had to decide the punishment for two (2) people sinning would be giving millions of people who didn't commit that sin disabilities like blindness
>>18764447Seriously though, why?
>>18764463POE DEBOONKEDGod wants to maximise the amount amount of people, because creating free agents is a better than creates robots/lobotomised humans under """Abrahamic theology""" (whatever that means) and god wants to maximise all possible goods.Evils done against each other are the result of our free will, such as terror attacks, murder, rape.naturals evils are the result of demons/sprits actions. their actions effect this world; earthquakes, floods, illness, etc are the result of evil actions. Nice weather, rain on dry land, etc are the result of good actions.((Pretty cool theodicy sounds like an anime plot.))God creates people in earth first and not heaven because he doesn't want to force people to chose him and he wants them to chose him not force them. God permits certain evils to exist so that second order virtues (i.e self-control) can exist and can be achieved, these certain evils must exist so god can maximises the greatest possible goods.
>>18764456It has been adequately answered dozens of times on this board alone. I realize the real reason atheists keep asking it is not because they are confused, but because their mindset is “no matter what you say I will NEVER forgive God as long as I’m not a woman!”
>>18764466God created this world and not another world because he is too powerfulYou can imagine a world where there is a set amount of good things, then you can do the same and +1, then you can do the same and +2 and so on. There will always be a better world to create, and god would maximise all possible goods but there is always going to be better world to create.>so does god just not createWell god can have other desires to motivate it to create other than value maxing, such as acting in accordance to moral perfection, a desire to behave morality is district to a desire to maximise the amount of goodness to exist.For example, god promises to do something, call it x; fulfilling its promise would increases the amount of goodness which exists but that wouldn't matter, however god also has a desire to behave morally perfect, and its morally wrong to break a promise so a separate desire would motivate god it keep its promise.So god can act without value maximizationGod doesn't stop evil because it screened of value maximization but we can still attribute some aspects some actions to god because other other unspecified desires
>>18764467>trannies trannies trannies trannies trannies tranniesYou think about trannies more than trannies themselves do
>>18764466>Evil exists because I gave you free will. Now you must use that free will to become my slave for life. Your reward will be to be put in a world where free will exists but evil doesn't!
>>18764484It’s hard not to think about you when you won’t shut up
>>18764487>Certain exists because I gave you free will.* I want you use that free will to become in union with me because I'm the source of all goodness.* Your reward will be to be put in union with me where free will exists but evil doesn't because your nature has been full actralised and transformed through your own actions!* >If put a silly wojak in it might make my opponent seem stupid
>>18764501>Certain evils exists*
>>18764501>Certain exists because I gave you free will.*Not even an English sentence.>become in union withExtremely disingenuous way to frame slavery.>because I'm the source of all goodness.*Pathetic way to justify a feeling of entitlement.>Your reward will be to be put in union with meMy reward will be something I had already done on my own?>>If put a silly wojak in it might make my opponent seem stupidNot any more than an accurate description of mainstream Christian beliefs will.
>>18764521>Not even an English sentence.I don't care about proof reading what I write on an anonymous forum board>Extremely disingenuous way to frame slavery.A non answer>Pathetic way to justify a feeling of entitlement.Another non answer>My reward will be something I had already done on my own??>Not any more than an accurate description of mainstream Christian beliefs will. >My ad-hominem is actually justified just like how i have too strawman the other person position to death>>18764487 Come back with something of substance next time
>>18764490You were the first person to mention trannies in this thread.
>>18764541NTA but he just joked about it on a fly. You have no way in proving that he is obsessed about it
>>18764501>union with me where free will exists but evil doesn'tUhhhh why not just start with that instead of putting souls through sufferingSeems pretty evil to me
>>18764539What the fuck am I supposed to say that's "substantial"? Your argument literally consists of renaming slavery and entitlement into things you like the vibes of better.Also, how come evil will not exist in heaven "because your nature has been full actralised and transformed through your own actions" if only "certain" evils exist because of said nature? What about the other evils? Did they stop existing mid post because they were no longer convenient to your dogma?
>>18764579Yea just read the whole thing>God creates people in earth first and not heaven because he doesn't want to force people to chose him and he wants them to chose him not force them. God permits certain evils to exist so that second order virtues (i.e self-control) can exist and can be achieved, these certain evils must exist so god can maximises the greatest possible goods.>>18764580> What the fuck am I supposed to say that's "substantial"?>anon is struggling to understand how argumentation worksIt’s ok you will learn> Your argument literally consists of renaming slavery and entitlement into things you like the vibes of better>” the practice of legally owning other people who are forced to work for or obey you”Slavery is when you forcefully make someone do something, there is not force going on here. God wants you to want to be in union with it because god recognises that he is the source of goodness itself although god is not going force you do to do something without your own will>Also, how come evil will not exist in heaven "because your nature has been full actralised and transformed through your own actions" if only "certain" evils exist because of said nature?Yea because evil does not exist in heaven because human nature is glorified and fully aligned with God, making the desire to choose evil obsolete.>What about the other evils? Did they stop existing mid postYea pretty much all forms of evil both moral and natural are completely eliminated in heaven; they do not persist "mid-post" or in any hidden capacity.Overall you are a very unpleasant person to talk to. I recommend showing more humility than rushing to insults and strawman's.
