Like trust me bro it’s totally not polytheism
>one God>polytheism
>>18763594>words words wordsThe left can’t meme.
>>18763590I count three.
>>18763583God is not one person. Simple.
>>18763598Look again. I count 1.
>>18763598There are 4 lights
>>18763583Jews when they Out neo platon the Christians . Shit cuz we got 7 more spheres n sheit
>>18763594>>18763633Where does this retarded “Trinity is Platonist” meme come from?
>>18763604God the Father (1), God the Son (2), God the Holy Spirit (3).
>>18763637Look again.That's not how it's written in the OP.I see:The Father (1), The Son (1), The Holy Spirit (1), God (1).I count three persons and 1 God. That's literally what is there until you just started adding words.
>>18763650Me (1), my brother (1), my sister (1), us (1)
>>18763635>Where does this retarded “Trinity is Platonist” meme come from?Do you understand the concept of a timeline? Plato lived in 4th century BC and laid the groundwork for Platonism, a philosophy rooted in pagan traditions of spiritual and philosophical contemplation that seeks the soul's direct, intuitive union with higher eternal realities—culminating in the Form of the Good or "The One"—through intellectual ascent, virtue, and inner transformation. That is the basis for mysticism in 4th century BC Platonism Jesus lived in 1st century CE and laid the groundwork for Christianity which had no metaphysics or mysticism until after like 6th century CE. Christianity gets philosophically mogged. It inherited an apocalyptic Jewish messianism, a Pauline crucifixion theology, and a set of ethical teachings about charity and repentance. What it did not inherit from its Palestinian origins was a contemplative metaphysics. It had no doctrine of the soul's ascent through hierarchies of being. It had no analysis of divine names. It had no triadic structure of procession, rest, and return. It had no theurgic theology. It had no apophatic negation as a pathway to union with the Absolute. These doctrines did not exist in the Gospels. They did not exist in Paul. They did not exist in the Synoptic tradition. They did not exist in the rabbinic Judaism that formed Christianity's immediate background. Jesus never spoke on anything regarding metaphysics grounded in logical reasoning.
>>18763673That’s a lot of words to brag about attending a secular church history class one time and how smart you feel after watching some lecture on youtube but it has nothing to do with a supposed relationship between Plato and the Trinity.
>>18763675He's not wrong.
>>18763677Not wrong about what? He didn’t even mention the Trinity, his rant was totally irrelevant
>>18763637Three persons, one God. Makes sense to me>>18763653This is a category error because you are conflating human beings with the being of God. You, your brother and your sister are not of the same substance. There is one divine substance which exists within the three divine subsistences, and not apart from them.
>>18763678>He didn’t even mention the Trinity, his rant was totally irrelevantNice reading comprehension. Try again>What it did not inherit from its Palestinian origins was a contemplative metaphysics. It had no doctrine of the soul's ascent through hierarchies of being. It had no analysis of divine names. It had no triadic structure of procession, rest, and return. It had no theurgic theology. It had no apophatic negation as a pathway to union with the Absolute. These doctrines did not exist in the Gospels. They did not exist in Paul. They did not exist in the Synoptic tradition. They did not exist in the rabbinic Judaism that formed Christianity's immediate background. Jesus never spoke on anything regarding metaphysics grounded in logical reasoning.>It had no triadic structureWhat do you think this means, genius?
>>18763679So let me count, Vishnu (1), Shiva (1), Bramha (1), Brhamahn (1)
>>18763680See >>18763675
>>18763685The Hindus indeed say these are one god, not only with themselves, but with you and me and all things whatsoever. They are pantheists. This has something to do with the Trinity?
Christianity acquired its mysticism in a single documented act of literary theft. At the beginning of the sixth century of the common era, an anonymous Syrian monk read the works of the pagan Neoplatonist Proclus, head of the Platonic Academy of Athens from 437 to 485 CE, along with the works of Proclus's predecessors Plotinus, Porphyry, and Iamblichus. Proclus carried on the traditions established by Plato, but this monk copied Proclus's system, with substantial portions reproduced verbatim or with minimal paraphrase, replaced the pagan divine names with Christian terminology, attached his forgery to the name of Dionysius the Areopagite (a figure mentioned briefly in Acts 17:34 as an Athenian convert of Paul), and released the resulting corpus into Byzantine circulation. The forgery was accepted as authentic apostolic writing for the next thousand years. It shaped every subsequent Christian mystical tradition, from Maximus the Confessor to Meister Eckhart to John of the Cross. Every Catholic sacramental theology, every Byzantine liturgical commentary, every Western scholastic doctrine of the angelic hierarchies, traces back to this document.The structural backbone of Proclus's entire system is the triadic rhythm of monē, proodos, epistrophē: abiding, procession, return. Every level of reality abides in its cause, proceeds from it, and returns to it. This triad is established in Proclus's Elements of Theology, Propositions 25 through 39, and it governs the architecture of his Platonic Theology. The triad is not a trivial formula. It is the load-bearing structure of Neoplatonic metaphysics.The Dionysian corpus (a forgery), first appearing in 6th century CE, adopts (steals) this triad as the architectural principle of its entire system. The forgery was accepted as authentic apostolic writing for the next thousand years.
>>18763689>It had no triadic structure>What do you think this means, genius?Answer this?Since 'too many words' = overwhelming for you. I will humor your intellectual handicap
>>18763675>>18763678The first major Christian commentator to systematize texts on "The Trinity" was John of Scythopolis around 540 CE, within a decade of their surfacing; his Scholia, expanded by Maximus the Confessor in the seventh century, became the standard Byzantine framework for reading the texts. The texts were translated into Latin by John Scotus Eriugena in the ninth century at the court of Charles the Bald, introducing Dionysian theology to the Latin West, where it would become central to Aquinas, Bonaventure, and the late medieval mystical tradition.The corpus attributed to Dionysius the Areopagite consists of four major treatises and ten letters: On the Divine Names (De Divinis Nominibus), On the Mystical Theology (De Mystica Theologia), On the Celestial Hierarchy (De Caelesti Hierarchia), On the Ecclesiastical Hierarchy (De Ecclesiastica Hierarchia), and the ten Epistles. These texts first surface in the historical record at a specific, dated moment: the Council of Constantinople held in 532 CEJesus died in 1st century, anon. He didn't mention anything about "The Trinity". Church Fathers -- 6 centuries after Jesus died -- gained access to Neoplatonism, extinguished Neoplatonism academies and cut people off from the traditions by imperial decree, then decided that a mystical triadic structure suddenly belonged to Christianity from that point on.Oops I guess that was 'a lot of words'. Im sorry if I triggered your psychosis again, anon.
>>18763696My answer is that the sentence didn’t end there and I don’t think it’s possible that you’re actually this stupid, you’re acting in bad faith.>>18763700See this is what I mean. You saw some epic “shocking true history of Christianity revealed!” video by Bart Ehrman or someone like that 5 minutes ago and now you’re talking about obscure figures of church history that very few people in general have heard of. Yes it is still embarrassing. The doctrine of the Trinity didn’t appear in 540 AD. Even the formal creedal definition was over 200 years earlier, and the term itself from still a century earlier yet. What you’ve shown (or really just referenced) is that Pseudo-Dionysius was a neoplatonist philosopher, which all of the 6 people who heard of him knew already. What you have not done is remotely explained what Plato has to with the doctrine of the Trinity. Second, it is true that Christ never spoke of a “Trinity” or a doctrine of the Trinity, it is utterly false that He said nothing of the substance of the doctrine. The doctrine, the whole doctrine, is derived directly from the holy scriptures, and only the vocabulary developed.
the process by which the trinity was arrived at is actually fundamentally oppossed to Plato's teachings. In the symposium. Socrates scolds Agathon for prioritising praising eros over accurately describing it.This is exactly the type of though process that decided what interpretation of Jesus' nature was made doctrine.The gospels very clearly point to Jesus, the Son, being subordinate to the Father, but this wasn't the interpretation that allowed them to praise him the most, so they declared all the sensible reading heresy.
>>18763706>The doctrine of the Trinity didn’t appear in 540 ADYes it did. Any earlier than that and the concept of Trinity in Christianity was still merely in the process of becoming defined doctrine. >What you have not done is remotely explained what Plato has to with the doctrine of the TrinityYour reading comprehension is garbage. Neoplatonism is where the framework of triadic structure in metaphysics was most well defined in antiquity. Christianity adopted the Neoplatonist framework and claimed credit for inventing it because it complimented the process they were struggling with, regarding the concept of the Trinity for centuries.It was already a well defined concept before Plato died, 400 years before the birth of Jesus. Middle Platonism and Neoplatonism further expanded on the framework, and eventually Christians adopted it centuries later in order to reshape their theology, define angelic hierarchies in heaven, and change the way they engage in liturgical commentary. Christianity didn't spawn in with all of it's traditions and interpretations in the first century, anon. It was struggling to define itself while Platonism was flourishing the entire time. In 529 CE the Christian Emperor Justinian I, whose legislation prohibited the teaching of pagan philosophy on pain of confiscation of property and loss of civil rights, closed down the very last Neoplatonist academy in Athens.. The remaining philosophers, including Damascius and Simplicius, fled to the Sasanian court of Khosrow I before partially returning under treaty conditions. The thousand-year continuous tradition of Greek philosophical instruction at Athens, begun by Plato in 387 BCE, was extinguished by imperial Christian decree.Within a generation of the Academy's closure, the Dionysian corpus appeared. The timing is not coincidental but you don't seem balanced enough to have that conversation.
>>18763583The notion of a "Holy Spirit" exists to obfuscate the incestuous connotations of Jesus's birth. After all, if Jesus claimed to be God (John 10:30) and God knocked up the Virgin Mary (Matthew 1:18) then that means Jesus impregnated his own mother to give birth to himself in an act of magical incest. Disgusting. Hence why the notion of a "Holy Spirit" that is/isn't God or Jesus is necessary for the narrative and why criticizing the Holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin in Christianity.
>>18763583Its easy to understand.
>>18763583Zeus (1) Poseidon (1) Hades (1) God (1)Woah
>>18763679>You, your brother and your sister are not of the same substance.They are of the same human substance. One human substance which exists within the three human subsistences, and not apart from them.
>>18763981To the offspring of Adam belongs the earth. To the offspring of Angels belongs the pits of hell. For an angel's offspring is an abomination to Yahueh.
>>18763691Might have
>>18763981Heresy, enjoy hell
>>18763583It’s crazy how low IQ zuttsluts are that they can’t even understand this moderately complex concept.
>>18764072Neither can Christians
>>18764061>>18764011If you disagree with me then you disagree with Jesus. He said that only those who are not of this world, born of the Spirit can partake of the New Covenant, inherit the name of God and that their kingdom is heaven, wherever they establish the dominion of God in God's name. We know that we are children of God, and that it was the judgement of God that we should have eternal life in Christ, rather than be destroyed by hell and the enemies of God.
>>18763583
>>18764084>He said that only those who are not of this world, born of the Spirit can partake of the New Covenant,Verse?
>>18764088John 15:19John 3:5Also that you should be baptized to demonstrate your recognition of the body of Christ as the one true living God.
>>18764072
>>18764091John is the work of Satan.
>>18764096God: I, Yahu alone, am God and there is none besides me.Trinitarians: So you and two others together are God?
>>18764127You can have multiple persons without independent sourcehood why notFalse dilemma
>>18764131You technically can, but was that what he said he was?
>>18764132Yeah never a second source, all his action is received
>>18764134Yahu alone. What does that mean to you?
>>18764135Causal monism
>>18764087I understand now.
>>18764137
>>18764139You do everything, you always have free will, every waking second to even every unconscious moment. You can never escape this, doer
>>18764149Kek nice comedy, not even was a doer so why would I be
>>18764139>>18764149
>>18764162That’s literally not Krishna’s embrace. You act and release attachment to the result, you don’t complain about losing.
>>18764164He basically tells Arjuna to man up and do his duty as a kshatriya
>>18764167Yeah true, but there’s no actual performance pressure in the way one would normally take from that.
>>18764168Indeed
>>18764173Aham eva kāryarataḥ asmi. :)
>>18764087kek
>>18763635Monad, Nous (or Word/Thought), World Soul The Father is the Monad, The Son is the Nous, the Holy Spirit is the World Soul.The only oddity is the Christian demand that the Nous and Monad be equal and homoousian but distinct, with the Nous submitting to the Monad on Earth but being equal and homoousian but separate to it in Heaven.If you ever wondered about the "begotten not created" line in Trinitarian dogma, it is because Platonic philosophy said that a creation is always less than it's creator. You cannot make something as good or better than yourself, it must be lesser because the 'potential' within a system only declines with time.So God could not create Christ because that would mean that Christ was inherently less than God. God could only beget Christ, which is a different process apparently.If this doesn't make sense to you, it is because you are not a Platonist, but early Christian theologians were.
>>18764121It's funny how Christians pretend the Bible is the word of God until a certain verse contradicts their Denomination's views at which point it's "the work of Satan" or "a later interpolation"
>>18764231When all you have is a hammer...
>>18763583>head is not the torso is not the limbs, all are one body>polytheism
>>18764279>god is divisible into parts>monotheism
>>18764279>all are one bodythat's not what the trinity says though, RETARD
>>18764288that's an analogy
>>18764087Hahahhahahahah
>>18764290your analogy's purpose is to point out a flaw in OP's claim. but your analogy is wrong (i.e. a heresy), so it fails miserably.
>>18764301okay so say something productive and refute it
>>18764286So some people claim, I get why people want to worship Jesus, but the Holy Spirit is quite unique
>>18764304your analogy is wrong because to match the trinity you would have to say that the head IS the body, and the torso IS the body, while being different from eachother. instead you said that only them together is the body
>>18764338That was obviously exactly what I meant
The pagan gods were always gods of 3 things.So when the christians came up with their bullshit they have to make it in a way that made sense to the native Europeans so they made it a trinity.Simple as.
>>18764540>The pagan gods were always gods of 3 things.No, lol
>>18764542yes loldont reply to me with empty bullshit nigger just say thank youI showed you the logical origin behind the trinity, you're welcome
>>18764546Zeus, god of sky (1), thunder (2), lighting (3), justice (3) and order (3).It makes sense, omg
>>18764634>thunder, lightning and the skyAre you pretending to be retarded or something?These are all the same thingZeus is the god of sky/weather(1), law/order (2), hospitality/travelers (3)All pagan gods follow this logicOf course you can always pretend to be retarded and act like 'thunder' and 'lightning' are 2 different realms.Anyway I waste my time here, you're welcome I guess.
>>18764663>Reeeeeeeeeeeee, if we play with meaning we can pretend it's threeSome high level mental gymanstics.
>heh, he's the god of thunder AND lightnings and thunderstorms and clouds that's 4 things ackshually
Kek, modern pagan are next tier.
>>18764713You've got beaten, badly.
Anyway, to reiterate for those who are curious. He brought up Zeus, not me. You can do this for every other god, look into it.Zeus 3 domains are the sky, order and hospitality.Christianity uses the trinity because Europeans were already used to think of the gods as having 3 domains so they had to compromise.So yes, the whole way of thinking in christianity has polytheist roots.
>>18764727Any God domains are three things if we force it hard enough.
>>18763598One God, three Divine PersonsEasy peasy
>>18763594>tldrShow me a document from an ecumenical council that supports your point or stfu
>>18764750Nah, that “I count three” guy failed the IQ test
>>18764750That's great part of why the religion is dying.
>>18764755>Show me a document from an ecumenical council
>>18764733There's no forcing. To say "he's the god of 10 things" because there's the lightning and the thunder and the clouds and whatever is disingenuous. Clearly that's one realm and that's how anyone with a bit of common sense sees it.I outlined the 3 realms for Zeus but this can be done with a lot of other gods too. He's the one who brought up Zeus and he didn't even know about the traveler/hospitality realm. He just went for the quick silly gotcha.You can do this for a bunch of other gods. That's how people thought of the gods back then, they weren't just gods of one thing. Christianity had to syncretize itself with whatever already existed so that's why they had to use the trinity or the common person wouldn't even consider it.
>>18764791What a special guy
>>18764793So your idea is what? Christianity just out of nowhere came up with the trinity even though every pagan everywhere in the ancient world saw each of their gods as ruling over 3 realms.Lmao@u
>>18764791What are the three realms of Loki? Nergal? Aphrodite (not Aphrodite Ares)? Nemesis? Hathor?
>>18764279>In classical theism, the doctrine of divine simplicity (also known as absolute divine simplicity) states that God is simple in that he is a single, unified entity with no distinction between his attributes
>>18764921>Lokigod of mischief, trickery, and lies
>>18764802>Christianity just out of nowhere came up with the trinityIt's divine truth, they didn't come up with it>everywhere in the ancient world saw each of their gods as ruling over 3 realmsIf you were going to say gods often appear in triads, then you'd be right, but this 3 realm thing is D&D nonsense. Pagan deities are frequently associated with either far more things or far fewer. You forgot the fathership/male fertility angle for Zeus, for example.
>>18764802Neoplatinism and the idea that the One (divine) is three in one. Christians basically took this and stapled over monotheism.
>>18764933Also betrayal, birth defects, earthquakes, etc
>>18764939So mischief/trickery/lies/betrayal, birth defects and earthquakes.
>>18764948Don't forget monsterous beasts, spiders, fire, and poison
TiberinusDomains: the river Tiber
>>18764776>delusional gloating-1000000 izzat
>>18764968Christianity is dying, specially non-evangelical protestantism.>>18764963The left bank of the river, the right bank of the river and the river itself.
>>18763598retard. think of it like water. water can be a vapor, it can be liquid, or it can be ice, but its still the same substance
>>18764972>The left bank of the river, the right bank of the river and the river itselfNone of those were worshipped as seperate "realms". Face it, you meant to say "Pagan gods, especially ruling ones, were often found in triads, groups of three." Once you concede that you meant to say this and were previously incorrect, I will tell you why that's irrelevant to the Trinity.
>>18764982>le water explanationKek, someone posted it.Water is sometimes liquid, sometimes solid and sometimes a gas, is God the same, sometimes in a role and another times in another role?
>>18764982That's modalism, which is heresy
>>18764972>delusional gloating intensifiesThe Church of Christ will last as long as the Second Coming. It is written
>>18764982God is like water, sometimes it's the Father, then it changes and stops being the Father and becomes the Son, then it changes and stops being the Son and becomes the Holy Spirit.That's some hardcore heresy.
>>18764990Modalism
>>18764989Just because reality upsets you doesn’t mean it’s gloating. You shouldn't be so offedend by it.
>>18764972Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world
>>18764993>no uYeah it's me who's upset. You entered a thread about the Trinity just to spew your bullshit and now reply to every comment like a whipped cur. Zero self-awareness. Complete waste of a subhuman being
>>18764996Christianity is the religion that lose the most members in the world. Unless we stop looking at data and believe those mutt pastors who claim that 80% of China is secretly Christian or whatever.
>>18765002First I was like>Yeah it's me who's upset.But then:>You entered a thread about the Trinity just to spew your bullshit>now reply to every comment like a whipped cur>Zero self-awareness.>Complete waste of a subhuman being
>>18765006The first period is sarcastic. Someone with a >80 IQ would have understood it from the context. Anyway, carry on with your inane bullshit. You're nothing but a waste of resources
>>18765015Anon, don't engage. He's not contributing anything to the discussion, he's just trying to get a rise out of people.
>>18765021Yeah I figured as much and clocked him from the first reply. I just thought may as well bump the thread while we're at it. Thank you anyway, he's completely off-topic and I am done with his bs.
>>18763583Enjoy Hell.
The trinity as a concept connecting 3 divine identities into 1 being is as old as Ancient Egypt.Ra-Khepri-Atum are 3 separate identities depending on the positions of the sun in the sky, yet they are all 1 god. There is nothing original or unique in Christianity, no divine revelations; everything in the bible is borrowed & re-branded from pre-existing civilizations.
>>18765088You're so fucked. :)
>>18765088Ra's situation is closer to modalism and has way more gods in itLike, Sekhmet should be in thereThe Christian God isn't Jesus at one time of day and the Father at others, all three exist concurrently and are all God
>>18763583correct.its some quantum physics bullshit cooked up by people who lacked the language to express it properly, but were so certain of the specifics that they had a bunch of big nerd fights over it.God is something that exists beyond space and time, beyond our 4 dimensions, who can thus view our existence across space and time, past and present, all at once.Therefore any attempt to look or interfere run into the quantum observation issue, where merely observing a thing changes it.The holy spirit is basically God reaching out in a minimalistic way to affect creation, usually by giving out information or other guidance.Jesus was God doing something radical and basically making a meatpuppet to work from within existence to do something.
>>18765085some random baptist/evangelist heretic spouting bullshit with some blasphemy from you isn't christian.
>>18765089Call me antisemitic but I don't believe in the words of spiritually Jewish prophets. They aren't convincing at all.>>18765123>Like, Sekhmet should be in thereShe is the daughter (offspring) of Ra, not an alternate identity of Ra like Khepri and Atum are. Egyptian mythology has many gods in addition to having its own divine Trinity represented by Ra
>>18765085He somehow managed to make Trinitarianism even more demented than it already is
>>18763798>Yes it didOh ok, so there is no relationship between the two.
>>1876508916:23 speaks of Hades, not hell.That is just the greek word for afterlife, which was always gonna be used because the gospels were written in greek.revelations is just some whacky prophecy2 peter 3:9 says>The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.Hell is not christian.its some goofy fanfiction from a guy that had a nightmare.You get purgatory at best and need to repent while there.
>>18765145>Oh ok, so there is no relationship between the two.Based illiterate retard. Triadic formulas mentioned in letters between Christians =/= doctrine.It's obviously part of a centuries long process which plays into the first officially defined Christian doctrine on the Trinity, which we only see after the 6th century in Christianity once they realize Neoplatonism has done what they were trying to do all along. Like I said.
>>18764087why is chai being used here
>>18764449but that is retarded because the head is not the body
>>18765157Chai is חי, what’s actually printed there is the short form of Hashem: ה׳ (Heh with a geresh)
>>18765337oops, thank you
>>18764783I accept your cohen-cession
>>18765341Isn’t it funny
>>18765154>Based illiterate retard.Like I don’t think you understand that I do not feel intimidated or threatened by you at all. You’re just a deeply ignorant person who is very arrogant and full of himself. You’re like a flat earther but for church history. Literally every single thing you said in this post is very basically wrong. Like you think Trinitarianism before Pseudo-Dionysius is “Triadic formulas mentioned in letters between Christians”, when in reality you have people like Augustine of Hippo writing long-form theological treatises called “On the Holy Trinity”. It’s just a waste of time either to refute you or even to listen to you, like a flat earther.
I get my understanding of the trinity from the only reliable source after the new testament: the earliest known book of Christian hymns.
>>18765633>Augustine of Hippo writing long-form theological treatises called “On the Holy TrinityAugustine of Hippo studied Neoplatonism you fucking moron. Specifically he read Latin translations of Neoplatonic philosophers like Plotinus and Porphyry. He was born hundreds of years AFTER the trinity was already a well defined concept in Platonism. Try again, low effort shitposting retard. 5 seconds in google could've spared you from being so wrong. Do better next time
>>18765656What the actual fuck
>>18765899It’s Gnosticism, anon
>>18764996That would be Islam you kuffar
>>18766054https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odes_of_Solomon>the majority of scholars believe it to have been written by a Jewish Christian, very likely a convert from the Essene community to Christianity>There is wide agreement that the Odes are related to the Gospel of John and the Dead Sea scrolls, thus Charlesworth concludes that the writer was an Essene convert to the Johannine community>as the Odes are replete with enjoyment in God's good creation, they seem at odds with the gnostic concept of knowledge providing the means of release from the imperfect world.>Scholars such as H. Chadwick, Emerton, and Charlesworth are fully convinced that the text has nothing to do with Gnosticism
>>18765656What's with Christians and all this lactation fetish?>According to the Acts of Paul (specifically The Martyrdom of Paul), an apocryphal Christian text written in the late 2nd century, Paul was beheaded in Rome under the reign of Emperor Nero (around 64–67 AD). When the executioner struck off Paul's head, milk—rather than blood—reportedly spurted out and splashed onto the soldier's tunic. Seeing the milk, the executioner and bystanders were astonished and glorified God, eventually reporting the event to Caesar.>According to Lactatio Bernardi (the Lactation of Saint Bernard), a popular legend and motif in medieval and Baroque Christian art, Saint Bernard of Clairvaux (an 11th–12th-century Cistercian abbot and Doctor of the Church) was kneeling and praying in devotion before an image or statue of the Virgin Mary when she miraculously appeared (or the statue came to life) and squeezed milk from her breast onto Bernard’s lips. The stream of milk was said to bestow upon him extraordinary spiritual nourishment, heavenly eloquence, divine wisdom, and sometimes healing from an illness or eye infection.
>>18766167>The stream of milk was said to bestow upon him extraordinary spiritual nourishment, heavenly eloquence, divine wisdom, and sometimes healing from an illness or eye infection.>and sometimes healing from an illness or eye infectionI like how this can be read as if it were a regular occurrence. Usually the milk just gives him nourishment, eloquence, and wisdom, but every now and then when he gets his yearly eye infection or some other illness, it heals that too.
>>18765656>>18766167
>>18766193>no circumcision tagFake
>>18766200>circumcision guro and torture
>>18763583WHAT THE FUCK IS THE HOLY SPIRIT???
>>18763598I count four.
>>18766193Most of those aren't even in the Bible though.
>>18767887You'd be surprised.
>>18766473Ruach HaKodesh (רוּחַ הַקֹּדֶשׁ)Before Christianity it was the spirit of God that would give people energy or inspiration or wisdom or whateverBut after forcing it into the Trinity it became something really confusing
>>18767887
>>18763590>one
