How would Germany, Europe, and the World be different today if the Beria plan was enacted?Would the world be in a better or worse situation?
>>18761468The Beria plan isn't a real thing, right? Obviously the map is alt-his but there wasn't any proposal like this IRL, right?I'm genuinely confused.
>>18761494>The Beria plan isn't a real thing, right?It's something someone made up. It's not real.
>>18761494The actual real life “Beria plan” was just to give east Germany to the west as a good will measure to the western states and in return they get a communist Greece and Balkans. It’s considered one of the reasons he was killed.
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Now you know why this guy is branded pedophile/ serial killer/ rapist/ etc by Stalinists.
>>18761513I supposed so. But in the mess of post-war proposals for Germany I figured it was marginally possible someone had proposed massive population transfers like this. Alá the Morgenthau plan or even "Germany must perish!".>>18761521Ah. That sounds rather Naïve. But in character for that pragmatic nonce.
>>18761536Well the USSR tried it your way and now neither communist Russia nor GDR exist anyways… Germany nowadays is the head of a capitalist regime the EU which is bent on conquering and subjugating Russia all in response to Cold War politics and being divided in half. Irony?
>>18761468Basically what the Babylonians did to the jews.
>>18761521>Hey you know how the Greeks have just had a vicious civil war followed by a white terror to keep out of the communist sphere?>What if you just handed them over to the communist sphere in exchange for east Germany?>This definitely won't cause Dekemvriana 2: Souvlaki Boogaloo or instantly undermine anti-communist efforts elsewhere
How about a real plan like morganthal's?
>>18761468>Yiddish ethnostate for Askhenazis only in Evropa VGH basedThe Kazakh and especially Uzbek settlement zones are kinda fucked up though.
>>18761468That would be fucking hilarious holy geg
>>18761547>Well the USSR tried it your way and now neither communist Russia nor GDR exist anyways… Not giving Germany away in hopes you get Greece had nothing to do with that.>Germany nowadays is the head of a capitalist regime the EU which is bent on conquering and subjugating Russia all in response to Cold War politics and being divided in half.You can't read politics very well if you think EU actions against Russia are borne out of German desire for revenge over WW2. And Frankly to say they are the leaders of EU is questionable. And the EU is obviously just a U.S subsidiary.
>>18761547>the EU which is bent on conquering and subjugating RussiaWhy exactly would the EU want to conquer and subjugate a frozen shit hole full of prostitutes and krokodil addicts with a GDP lower than Greece?
>>18761719The EU urgently needs plentiful natural resources so it can be a real supa powa and not just America's reliant, bitchmade satrapy
>>18761721And it's easier to conquer and subjugate the poverty stricken krokodil addicts than just buy the resources from them (you know, capitalism), how?
>>18761722Uh yeh about thatSoz, gotta buy LGN from Americhads now, gg.
>>18761723>Price goes up after Russia invades Ukraine >This is the EUs fault
>>18761725A country you're reliant on to buy from can just do whatever it wants. If you want to stop them, you can't buy from them anymore, depriving yourself of the resources you need and forcing you to find other sellers that will just take advantage of your resource dependence.Are you seeing the problem yet?
>>18761732And what's that got to do with the EU wanting to conquer and subjugate Russia?
>>18761733Then the EU would have its own internal supply of oil, natural gas and mineral wealth. The single biggest obstacle the EU faces to global relevance is its total resource reliance on other powers, structurally it is not capable of independence from the United States or some other benefactor.
>>18761734And again, why does that require conquering and subjugating millions of impoverished drug addicts instead of just doing capitalism? And where is your evidence that's what they want to do?
>>18761737Already answered>A country you're reliant on to buy from can just do whatever it wants. If you want to stop them, you can't buy from them anymore, depriving yourself of the resources you need and forcing you to find other sellers that will just take advantage of your resource dependence.And>And where is your evidence that's what they want to do?I'm not convinced it is, but it should be. However it is definitely what they're trying to accomplish in Ukraine which also has valuable natural resources, particularly gas.
>>18761739And so, all along, it was real in his mind.
>>18761741If you believe this war is actually about democracy or whatever I have a bridge to sell you
>>18761521holy shit this is crazy, i always wondered why the soviets didnt intervene in that civil war
>chinese exclave in germany>a raging revanchistic nationalist central-asian german state once the USSR collapseshuh, zany
>>18761468Should've put the Indian occupation zone in the Saar
>>18761468Beria can burned in hell.
>>18761513>>18761494It tankie revisionism
