Why do the leftists pretend this never happened?
Name the leftists who pretend this never happened.
>>18761439They pride themselves on defeating fascism when ww2 literally started because of their friendship towards nazis
>>18761442Name the leftists anon.
>>18761436Why do Nazis pretend this never happened?
>>18761436Both sides usually cope by saying it was a temporary alliance of convenience, which is true, but ignores the very real chance it could have been a permanent alliance
>>18761436>leftistsLeftsits as socialists, or as in liberal progressives in the West?Americans really need to learn the meaning of words.
>>18761436>>18761442Why do Liberals memoryhole pic related - most beloved democrat politician pre-war was PRO-Hitler? USSR was wrong to allow Poland to go to Nazis too though. US conservatives at that time legitimately were only ones to stand up to Hitler
Because they’re contrarian retards who don’t actually have a cohesive ideology beyond “America bad, the West bad!”
Bob hope on FDR and Harry Truman :https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wKhOtZ3F3_k&ra=m
>>18761439Chomsky
>>18761446every communist troon on xitter>>18761463Jesus christ, truman was such a blood thirsty ape. No morals at all, just in it for the fun.
>>18761472Where does he say it never happened? Reminder, if you lie to me you burn in hell fire forever.
>>18761476Harry Truman was human shit and democrats were evil even back in 1940. Democrats have always been the real warmongers, racists, etc but with nicer PR.
>>18761480But racism and warmongering is fucken based BASED?
>>18761477He pretends it never happens by ignoring it and uncritically glazing Stalin along with the rest of the USSR. Pretending that something never happened means never addressing it.
>>18761482I’m not Le heckin Nazi you leftypol idiot who thinks it’s either being a Nazi or commie
ITT: OP can't makes an claim that "leftists" deny and/or defend the molotov ribbentrop pact, then repeatedly fails to name a simple example.Here's a hint the for the future OP: Don't make butthurt crybaby threads about your political enemies when you don't know the basic facts.Only a small fraction of a fringe minority of schizo "Marxist-Leninsts" like the ACP defend that shit. The vast majority of Commies, let alone other lefties, aren't afraid to criticise the USSR.
>>18761485Where does he deny it anon. Tick tock.
>>18761490>The vast majority of Commies, let alone other lefties, aren't afraid to criticise the USSR.This is something that needs to change.
>>18761489>I'm not Le heckin NaziLol. Faggot.
>>18761490ACP are genuinely the most decent leftists/ Marxists and several of their leaders such as Caleb Maupin dont even identify as Marxist anymore (Caleb is a Dengist socdem).
>>18761492i swear internet retards think repeating a question after ignoring the answer is the ultimate debate trump card lol
>>18761446
>>18761507>answer doesnt say where he pretends it never happened You had one chance and you flushed it down the shitter and for what? This thread? Lol. Enjoy burning :)
>>18761510If I click on this it'll totally be them pretending it never happened and not arguing over wether it constituted a formal alliance, right? Remember, you lie to me and you burn.
>>18761516Bro just take the L
>>18761436>Hawks of Daugava (Latin: Daugavas Vanagi) is a Latvian nationalist, antisoviet organization. It was created after World War II in a prisoner of war camp in Zedelgem, Belgium, on 28 December 1945. The founders and members of the organization were former Latvian Legionnaires.Lmao. Pot calling the Kettle black here. Latvia, of all the countries.P.S: I think it's fun that the Baltic states all had tiny autistic governments-in-exile (diplomatic services technically, only Estonia had a government in exil proper) that spent the cold war haranguing the U.S over the occupation and doing idk what. One of them was iirc broke as fuck, I don't remember which one, and the Estonians actually had a split over succession and had two different governments in exile.
>>18761519>It's arguing over wether it constituted a formal allianceEnjoy hell :)
>>18761524Why would someone go to hell for arguing over this? What kind of fucked up religion you follow?
>>18761526>why would someone go to hell for bearing false witnessYou're so fucked :)
>>18761523I personally think it’s more fun that the Soviet Union died while Latvia and Estonia still exists
>>18761533Ahhh, got it, disagreeing with you is bearing false witness.
>>18761533has this debate tactic ever worked for you before?
>>18761535You lying is bearing false witness. And those flames just got hotter :)
>>18761537You're gonna scream and scream and scream. Hope it was worth it :)
>>18761538Isn’t it a school night for you?
Quite curious that Christ made it very clear this type of mutt will go to hell, while all the thousands of made up sins are not there.
>>18761541You gonna repent for your lying or do you condemn yourself for 4chan coolboy points?
>>18761497>The most decent leftists are the ones who are actually not leftists at all, but deranged schizophrenic far right cultLmao, never change Nazoids you drooling fucking retards
>>18761543>Bearing false witness >Made up sinYou're so fucked and deservedly so :)
>>18761550Dengist China and socdem euro politicians like Gordon Brown in the UK and Olof Palme in Sweden are a million times preferable to Mao and the cultural Revolution to like 99% of people who aren’t clinically insane.
>>18761553>people who aren’t clinically insane.Or at least not raised under Western propaganda.
>>18761551Do you know what bearing false witness means?
>>18761555Dude you really would prefer to live under Mao Zedong than current China or even Brown era UK in the 60s???? Granted I dislike a lot about modern UK but thats mostly foreign policy stuff like their support of Azov and internal immigration craziness rather than their socdem economics
>>18761553Okay? none of them were communists tho
>>18761563>Reddit spaceStopped reading here.
>>18761567You don't fit in. Lurk moar another decade newfag (that's board culture slang for new faggot) and then the rope.
>>18761569Instead of crying, write it properly, like you did on this post.
>>18761558Do you? You're so fucked and you don't even know it. Tick tock :)
>>18761572Dude, you put a lot of effort into the baiting, a bit too much, knowing a bit would do wonders.
>>18761571>Midterms coming up>Tourists arrive Like clockwork.
>>18761567You M-L cretins are unironically making me want to become a fascist just because of how thick headed you are.
>>18761573You don't even know what you do and get you keep falling over yourself to do it. All for 4chan coolboy points. Tick tock :)
5 post in and it's already stale.
>To bear false witness means to give a dishonest, deceptive, or untruthful statement—especially in a legal, public, or communal setting.Hope the 4chan coolboy points were worth it :)
>>18761581Yeah, the OP of the threat literally invoked Godwin's Law.>As a conversation goes on, the probability of someone invoking Hitler or the Nazis approaches 1>When that happens, the conversation is no longer worth having
>>18761439Literally all the ones during the Cold War until the archives opened and they could no longer cope that Stalin wasn’t gay for Hitler until 1941.There’s even a libtard documentary from the Cold War period where it says Poland VOLUNTARILY became communist because they felt betrayed by Britain and France, KEK.
>>18761590Also, Westerners really need to learn about Stalin, the amount of random crap and myths this people spam is sad.
>>18761591Name them then. Remember, if you don't, you burn.
Commies and Zuttsluts have been deceptive scumbags, betrayers, and liars throughout all of their history so it’s no wonder they find themselves natural allies in the 21st century against western civilization.
>>18761603Modern way US is like Turkey, geographically it sits on land that was part of Western civilization, that's it.
>>18761490>OP can't makes an claimLearn english you esl nigger
>>18761594Other anons already named multiple in this thread and you ignored them in true leftist fashion, why would anyone engage you in good faith?>if you don't, you burn.Chances are you’re either a kike or indian
>>18761456They don't.They think it was genius move of deception that fooled the mouthdrooling retarded commies.
>>18761555Which of Mao’s actions do you consider “Western propaganda” exactly
>>18761497Your average "Marxist-Leninist" who joins a group like that is more the equivalent of a Wehraboo or Tojoboo than the historical thing called communism. It just happens to be for Russia instead of Germany or Japan.
>>18762057They literally did not my hellbound chum :)
>>18762079Repeating something doesn’t make it true tankie
>>18762090You keep condemning yourself. Sizzle sizzle :)
>>18762096Are you brown?
>>18762102Are you hellbound? You certainly are! Just name the liberals and you'll avoid your fate. If not? Oh well :)
>>18761593The things Stalin is said to have done really did happen and it was based.
>>18762077And? Being a social Democrat/ economic liberal who just likes the USSR for killing Nazis but still opposes Stalinism and Maoism is defensible entirely as a position.
>>18762077>picrel exists and supporting eugenics programs is somehow still not a socially accepted view to have
>>18762296Post visage handsome.
>>18761436Of course the commie is the one wearing the bridal dress kek
>>18762299I don't exclude myself from those who should have been prevented from existing. Too pussy to suicide though
>>18762306Post visage.
>>18762270Social democrats (social fascists) and liberals (thinly veiled fascists) are actually just as bad as nazis.
The problem with this is that leftists are not a monolith. You're unlikely to find a trotskyist denying the Molotov-Ribbontrop Pact for instance.
>No names of liberalsThose flames are getting hotter :)
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>>18761534Really? Or do you just think that because of assorted grievances?
>>18761516>shifting the goalposts this hard
>>18762367Thinking something is fun doesn’t preclude thinking it’s fun because of “assorted grievances”
>>18762368The goalpost is liberals who pretend the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact never happened. That's what's in that article. Right? You'd never try to deceive me and damn yourself to eternal fire, would you :)
Oh. Oh dear. It does indeed say that the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact happened. It is in fact an article justifying it. Ouch. You are so, so, so fucked :)
>>18762375>The goalpost is liberals who pretend the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact never happened.The OP asked why leftists pretend that the USSR and Germany didn’t collaborate to divide Europe between each other, specifically referencing the Baltics. You seem to have misinterpreted the question as “why do liberals claim that Germany and the USSR literally never signed a specific agreement (Molotov Ribbentrop Pact)?”. Assuming you are a real person and not an LLM, your responses can only be attributed to bad reading comprehension or intentional trolling (potentially both).
>>18762077>TojobooNow this is a word.>>18762269This guy gets it.
>>18762391you are the only person in this entire thread that has claimed that leftists deny the existence of the MR pact anon
>>18762393>OP text: Why do the leftists pretend this never happened?>OP picture: ANNUL THE 1939 SOVIET-NAZI PACT CONSEQUENCES!>The article you posted: Says the 1939 Soviet-Nazi pact did indeed happenI wonder if you'll go straight to the roasting alive stage or if they'll drown you in boiling shit for a few thousand years first :)
>>18762403>OP text: Why do the leftists pretend this never happened?>OP picture: ANNUL THE 1939 SOVIET-NAZI PACT CONSEQUENCES!If you interpret this to mean “why do leftists claim the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact literally doesn’t exist”, you have bad reading comprehension skills (assuming you are not an LLM, which seems increasingly likely given response time and language/post structure).
>>18762414>he now trying to pretend it means no leftists believe an attempt to annul the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact happened Oooooh I do hope it's the drowning in boiling shit part :)
>>18762418>>he now trying to pretend it means no leftists believe an attempt to annul the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact happened
>>18762424Trying to pretend I'm a computer won't hide what you've done. It only makes it worse :)
>>18762427Show me where I said you were a computer
>>18762434>feigning memory lossThat won't save you. Tick tock :)
>>18762438Show me where anon.
>>18762414You're very disingenuous, are the same compulsive "based conservative" liar who always post with Reddit spacing?
>>18762439Here:>>18762393>>18762414You're so fucked :)
>>18762448You can delete this post and re-upload it in proper English if you’d like
>>18762450Where in those comments did I call you a computer?
>>18762460>>18762393Assuming you are a real person and not an LLM>>18762414>assuming you are not an LLM>>18762424>AI hallucinations You're utterly fucked :)
>>18761510Marxists could be 100% honest about it and it wouldn't be inconsisntent with their ideology.>yeah we supported hitler to pit western imperialists against each other and them we killed him so what?Admitting to that wouldn't even take away the victim role they covet so much. Their ideology gives them the right to for a no holds barred approach anyways.
>>18762528That's literally what the article is about. Yeah, the Soviet Union sided with the Nazis for a little bit, but the Western Allies did exactly the same merrily carving up Europe on a whim.
>>18762532I'd give them an point for honesty if their headline wasn't saying the opposite.
>>18762454Mutt, when beaten down, ways to hide behind "mu english"
>>18762542>I'd give them an point for honesty if their headline wasn't saying the opposite.To be fair, a non-agression pact is not an alliance.
>>18762296>>18762299Eugenics is just a meaningless term now, isn't it?Dumb Internet, diluting everything into nothing.
>>18762549Sure but when you're feeding then vital materials for their war effort, you can't call it nothing either.
>>18762563And when you're carving up Czechoslovakia with them?
>>18762567As far as I know Britain or France didn't take any pieces of Czechoslovakia when they let Hitler take some and didn't feed them iron and oil and whatnot when he finally invaded Poland.
>>18762563Selling materials is trade, it doesn't matter if it end up feeding then vital materials for their war effort.As NSDAP Germany was paying in goods, it's a form barter too.
>>18762528>Their ideology gives them the right to for a no holds barred approach anyways.How is this any different from fascism though? If they think the ends are justified by any means then how are they not the same blood thirsty murderers as the Nazis but with different aesthetics?
>>18762613>it doesn't matter if it end up feeding then vital materials for their war effortit matters if you’re ideologically opposed to the Nazi government, which Stalin clearly was not.
>>18762532Why does every defense of Marxism devolve into whataboutism?
>>18762642Where did this "you can't trade with regimes you oppose the ideology" idea came from?
>>18762645Why are you conflating trade of miscellaneous goods with trade of militarily strategic resources?
>>18762547>Mutt, when beaten down, ways to hideEnglish is not very hard, please learn it
>>18762656Because I don't enjoy the idea of making up "le good trade" and "le bad thread" to push some ideology, sorry.
>>18762669>Because I’m incapable of complex thought and nuance makes me mad >:(ftfy
>>18762644because marxism has caused an undeniable amount of death, destruction and suffering so the only its supporters can defend it is deflection and deception
>>18762680>complex thought and nuanceTrying to add a broad rule to geopolitics is the exact opposite of this.But alright, if we are dense on purpose and claim "there's a Rule that says, no trading military goods with different ideology" then yeah, Stalin broke this made up rule.
>>18762644Attacks on Marxism tend to focus on claiming it’s bad because it did something that every other ideology has done, usually to a greater degree. So the defense tends to be: ‘You say Marxism is bad because of that, but it’s considerably better than any other ideology that’s been tested in practice.’
>>18762518So you can’t actually show me where I called you a computer and you concede defeat, got it :)
>>18762687>Attacks on Marxism tend to focus on claiming it’s bad because it did something that every other ideology has donelike poetry
>>18762644>whataboutism Aka the things you did actually do but are now embarrassed by.
>>18762695Those are your quotes anon...
>>18762715Oh no, please don’t tell me you think computers are Large Language Models. That would be really embarrassing for you :)
>>18762700Repeating a claim will not make up for being wrong.>>18762715Don't waste time with americanshizo.
>>18762711>whataboutism is actually good because whatabout whatabout whataboutthis is why no one takes your ideology seriously lol
>>18762723>Reddit space>Ignore respense and repeat claimThe same pattern by the same mutt-conservative shill.
>>18762725maybe you’ll seize the means of production next century anon, of course you’ll have to move out of your mom’s basement first
>>18762722>americanshizoImagine having skin the color of shit kek
>>18762728You're really bad at this./his/ his should add a flag filter.
>>18762732cry about it cumrade
>>18762728>>18762731>>18762733This is the type of person who "destroys Marxism".
>>18762723Who are you quoting anon? The western Allies did indeed work with the Nazis to carve up Europe. Chamberlain was so proud of it he waved the treaty around shouting about peace in our time.
>>18762738I think he’s trying to say that when people point out that realpolitik exists, that countries engage in some amount of it, and that the USSR didn’t engage in it more than any other country, it upsets him, so he doesn’t count it as a valid argument.
>>18762721>AI isn't a computer Extremely pilpul.
>>18762721schizomutt strikes again.
>>18761460no, no we do not. both are rooted in the French Revolution, no need to split hairs.
>>18763270People who oppose capitalism, on a the bases of it being liberal modern slop.
>>18761436Stalin was the big spoon in the relationship
>>18762737sorry i hurt your feelings cumrade, maybe you should shoot yourself over it :)
>>18763381Schizomutt is back.
>>18763384if you killed yourself tonight no one would miss you :)
>>18763385Have work to do tomorrow
>>18763387you could tighten a belt around your neck and tie the other end around your doorknob and lean forward until you pass out, painless and no one would even notice you were gone :)
>>18763395I'm not gay nor I'm into this shit, schizomutt.
>>18762374You don't think it's fun. You wanted to own the commies so shadow boxed a bit. And you did, you won. You owned all the commies.
>>18762723I mean its technically not a logical fallacy and can be used in arguments.>>18763277it wouldn't have existed without bourgeois liberalism giving birth to it. the two ideologies are codependent, regardless of thesis-antithesis. its called dialectics.
>>18762738The difference is that Chamberlain was trying to appease the murderous psychopath byt saying>okay okay you can have his wallet just don't take anything elseWhile Stalin broke through the back door to to helpnwoth the murderpsychoing while the murderpsycho was murderpsychoing from the front.
>>18763765>Ok, it happened and yes it was a big deal, but we did it with good intentions!
>>18763791But you think so too.
>>18763806You screamed this was whataboutism not so long ago...
>>18763809Not me.
>>18763810>Not me!>I just came running to defend him!
>>18763812I am >>18761510 if you really want to know.
>>18763826And that article says the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact DID happen. You're so fucked :)
>>18763833Who the fuck are you replying to retard????
>>18763909Literally you.
