Why didnt europeans create settler colonies in the southern cone, given that they were sparcely populates and had a similar climate to europe
>>18761113You mean besides Argentina?
>>18761113North america was really an anonamlyBecause prior to the industrial revolution there was no necessity and less incentive to migrate to the new world and start a new life for most people
>>18761117How was argentina a settler colony? Do you think there wasn't mestizaje there? Are you an argie troll?
>>18761147Take it up with the wikipedia article for Settler Colonialismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settler_colonialism#Argentina
>>18761113>Why didnt europeans create settler colonies in the southern coneEvery country in the Southern cone *is* at its roots a settler colony.
>>18761172That was so obviously written by an argentinian kek, using the same garbage talking points such as trying to deny the racemixing that happened in the colony. There is an article in spanish solely dedicated to the process of mestizaje in argentina, it was the same as in any other spanish colonyAnd as for the mass migration AFTER the colony ended, it was 70-75% male, and it was a minority of the population
>>18761177Pretty much, even if Latin America is majority % native bloodwise, their entire borders, institutions, national identities, and political systems were inherited from either spanish viceroyalties or western XIX century liberalism
>>18761117Certain parts of Argentina (and elsewhere) had settler colonies from 1870-1930, but Argentina was not a settler colony.
>>18761113If you're asking why they're not "White" like Anglo America, it's because the Spanish, being first, didn't really conceive of their New World possessions as "colonies" in the sense later European ventures would. They fundamentally viewed them as new feudal conquests to be handed out as rewards to landlords to rule over the already existing locals rather than as a frontier to "settle".
>>18761325If you define settler colony as a state whose formation and continuing institutions depend on the dispossession and displacement of Indigenous peoples then it absolutely is.
>99% of the population is descended from Spanish, Italian, German and Welsh (?!) colonists, but we are NOT a settler colony!
>>18761113Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay all engaged in systematic wars of conquest, against their indigenous populations in the mid-late 19th century which resulted in extensive depopulation dispossession and displacement of cohesive tribes.
>>18761113Are you from an alternate universe where that area is ruled by Natives who practice Native culture?
>>18761379While I think the term "Settler Colonialism" does have merit, it only goes so far, because far enough back EVERY polity on the planet fits that definition. The term only has use to describe an in-progress system such as Israel where the Settling and Colonialing are what the state does and exists to do as its primary impetus. There's a very real fait accompli/statute of limitations on when the term ceases to be useful or descriptive.
>>18761324Latin America isn't even majority Native, only a few countries in the Americas qualify. And I'm not sure if there's any where the majority of the populace could be said to be fully Native and not mixed.
>>18761414I guess the Maya in the Yucatan could count (Since they did the Caste War against the Mestizos and Criollos), but nowadays Yucatan and Quintana Roo have received migrants from every other part of Mexico.
>>18761414Depends on what you consider "native". Like sure most people aren't speaking a native language and living in a native social structure that the government recognizes, but most absolutely do have lots of native blood.
>>18761407>The term only has use to describe an in-progress system such as Israel where the Settling and Colonialing are what the state does and exists to do as its primary impetus.I think it falls flat there, because Israel is genuinely the Jewish homeland where Judaism started, and it is the Arabs who colonized it. Arabs of course being native to Arabia. The primary impetus of Israel is to provide a safe place for Jews in their historical home.
>>18761414Bolivia is probably the only one where you could argue the native population never really went away and are still the overwhelming majority.
>>18761432Is this a troll? Literally using the "Muh 3000 years promise" meme? Israel is no more there homeland than Poland is the homeland of an American who had a single ancestor who immigrated from there before the Revolution. The Ashkenazi are literally more closely related to Italians than they are other Jews. Arab is a fake meme ethnicity anyway. People just started speaking the language of whoever was in charge, and then got all labeled "Arab" together by europeans. Changing your language and religion doesn't change your DNA, which the Palestinians have the same as the people living there long before the Titus, Trajan, and Hadrian.
>>18761113Argentina is more a settle's colony than the US.
>>18761379OP is a known racist drawing parallels with America and Australia, by settler colonies he means no mixing whatsoever
>>18761469>by settler colonies he means no mixing whatsoeverHow does the US fit this description?
>>18761381>my great great great abuelini was italian
>>18761384Yes but that was after their independences
>>18761501>Yes, but... cope for why the US is differentInstead of boasting, trying learning from Argentina, then you may have a White country.
>>18761469A racist on 4chan? Surely this means OP can be easily identified
>>18761503Argentina is a mutt countryhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3323559/
>>18761514Maybe when compared with Europeans, they are far pure than Americans.
>>18761518Wrong again, white americans are >99% europeanhttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/335999601_Native_American_admixture_recapitulates_population-specific_migration_and_settlement_of_the_continental_United_States
>>18761525>Ignore blacks on purposeAmericans sure enjoy being honest.
>>18761514All countries in the Americas are mutt countries, thoubeit
Remember: Argentines are all identityless italic-resembling brown mutts with ugly piercings, whose entire national identity consists of football, sucking European dick, and pretending steaks are their national cuisine. It's not a real nation, and not even a settler colony either. Argentina is a third world country that both sides of the political spectrum love to make fun of.
>>18761614The existence of Argentina make this and many other americans upset, the question is, why?
>>187616151. I am not American.2. The existence of Argentina is not infuriating, it is hiliarous.
>>18761614Dont forget the falklands
>>18761539NTA, but to be fair, that's semantics when you can clearly see that blacks and Americans are not the same group of people. They're literally the farm equipment and its descendants, they're not actually American people.
>>18761648>They're literally the farm equipment and its descendants, they're not actually American people.You kinda proved Brazil is a White country.
>>18761615Why shouldn't we be upset? Argentina seemed to be on the right track with migration from Europe transforming it into USA 2.0 (pre civil rights), but this process was suddenly halted when you betrayed your noble and superior elite and supported this deranged pedophile whose corruption levels make jeets and jews blush. You even assisted Israel in hunting down kindly National Socialists who could have done wonders for your country if you just granted them high level positions in government and the military.We are not even the ones suffering, we are upset because we are disappointed. Your life could have been so much more happier and meaningful had Argentina not randomly shitniggered for no reason. You are like trannies who hack their cock off then when we go "dude what the fuck bro" they are all "heh, cope and seethe chud". Trannies are also pedos. Many similarities.
>>18761444>Israel is no more there homeland than Poland is the homeland of an American who had a single ancestor who immigrated from there before the RevolutionThat analogy is nothing like what I said. Jews are a unique ethno-religious group in a way your Pole is not. And no I am not using "le 3000 years meme" because that is a religious argument. I never said God promised that land to the jews, just that it's where judaism started and the traditional jewish homeland, which is a historical fact. It's not some random colonial project where explorers went through a land their people had no connection to and said "this is rich and valuable land, we should build an outpost and fort here to make sure our rivals don't get it" and then proceeded to push out or take over the natives.
>>18761687>just that it's where judaism started and the traditional jewish homeland, which is a historical fact.Modern day Judaism is very distant from the historical entity, the basically only share the names.Even Egyptians today can claim to at least have been living in the region for some time.
>>18761684>You even assisted Israel in hunting down kindly National Socialists who could have done wonders for your country if you just granted them high level positions in government and the military.I think the fact that they in their few years in power they intentionally started and lost an unnecessary and avoidable world war against 3 great powers all at the same time when they lacked the ability to defeat any of them 1v1, got 8 million germans killed, their country completely bombed to ruins, and then partitioned between their conquerors. Not exactly a promotional bell ringer.
>>18761692Religions change over time but modern judaism is the lineal descendant of the ancient religion, as are the modern jewish people. It is not as different as you say. There is far more in common between modern and classical judaism than just the name. Modern jews still have the torah, the sabbath, pesach. Even in antiquity when the temple stood there was a huge disagreement over rites, and factional fragmentation of jews, but they were all jews. After the fall of the temple judaism had to evolve to survive. It didnt stop being judaism. We still believe in god, and aspire to follow his commandments.
>>18761707>lineal descendant of the ancient religionThe Catholics can also claim that.>WeOh nevermind. You're a troll.
>>18761113latinxers are just incredibly lazy
>>18761694Hitler's rise to power, toppling international finance in Germany and toppling France in months, accomplishing what his predecessors had failed to do after 4 years in the trenches is impressive. The fact the entire world watched with this expression on their faces and pulled together to stop them yet it took 5 years is impressive also.Argentina could stand to learn from them and enhance their potency. If Vargas hadn't been backstabbed in Brazil they could have enlisted them as well then Chile and the rest of south America could join. A revolution that would no doubt terrify the US after they cuck out and become "progressive".It would earn their ire, as Hitler did, but what is life lived as a cuck afraid of offending trannies?
>>18761684You will never be American, Diego.
>>18761503>trying learning from Argentina, then you may have a White country.Where are they hiding it?
>You will never be American, Diego.Why do Americans act like they are still the gigachads they were in the 50s? You know who is a Manchurian candidate being blackmailed by Mossad who have Epstein's tapes. If you have been on 4chan long enough you should know how bad things really are.
>>18761865>muh international financeOh you mean the British empire and their economic dominance? Yeah we can't call it that because then it makes Germany sound like just another nation engaging in realpolitik.Instead we call it "international finance" so that shitskins like you can feel included in European affairs.
>>18761898Blackrock funded DEI saturates your daily existence yet you still think international finance is just wholesome WASPs good at running businesses. Cute.
>>18761827Catholics believe in jesus as the son of god, its a quite different thing.
>>18761865Destroying your nation and getting 8 million of your people killed is not at all impressive because "lol took you 5 years to beat me!" Behaving like the gangster of nations and winning at first because no one wanted to believe you were engaging in national suicide is not impressive.>what is life lived as a cuck afraid of offending trannies?Oh, its retarded.
>>18761113They were until they were flooded by mestizoïdes frim the north
>>18761649White brazilians are tritracial, they are not truly white like whites in anglo countries>>18761684The argentinian goverment itself stopped european migration and even deported some of them because they brought socialism and anarchism
>>18761951Deboonked -> >>18761203
>>18761976>White brazilians are tritracial, they are not truly white like whites in anglo countriesDude, migrants Afghans are White in Anglo countries.
>>18761473Americans are 100% white, barely mixed with wops until the world wars, didn't allow spics in until the 60s, segregated negroes for as long.
euros had no idea what they were doing (some things never change huh) and let their brief moment pass as their short lived empires (modest exception for spanish empire of ~250 years, the rest folded way faster or were just mediocre to begin with) all blew up one after another. I think being raped through the entirety of the middle ages by asiatics and moors made euros uniquely unsuited for empire building. So the moment winds miraculously blew in their favor they got cocky invented racism and then lost it all. First the empires, then their religion (to atheism, more than halfway done) and genes (to muslim immigrants, well underway) are now on the way to extinction.
>>18762145Whatever helps you to sleep at night, mate. But I'll not play pretend with you.
>>18761113there was a good number of settler colonies, even russians and confederate americans, but they didnt have the numbers to enforce apartheid laws and the cities gave them a better chance to climb the social ladder. Today the mennonites are doing very interesting things in Paraguay, agriculturally speaking
>>18761113They did, there is a Swiss colony in Bariloche, for example.
>>18762568ah yes, "swiss"
>>18761113They're pretty settled
>>18762577>Haha, me American, how dare you claim that someone else in the continent has a proper European colony, reeeeeeeYou guys need to stop letting your feelinds dictate what are the facts.
OP by using academic cant like "settler colony" deserves all the mockery.Europeans of course did flock to the southern cone; the Welsh were famous for building settlements (who spoke Cymraeg) down Chabut.Uruguay maybe didn't take as much immigration because the soil wasn't great, and the land was disputed between Spain and PortuBrasil. Although they did have a nice river. The Brits and/or Americans got involved to keep this patch separate from both.>>18761117And yes, Argentina came to expand and encompass the Welsh settlements. The Welsh there were fine with it, they still speak the language.
>>18761649Brazil came close to being a Tupi muttland like Indonesia is now Bahasa muttland
>>18762926Brazilians have close to no native blood, much like American it's all self proclaimed whites with different amount of African slave blood.
>>18761113>far away from yurop>shitty sailing weather
>>18761649>>18761976>>18762115>>18762926has brazil not invented the mirror? brazil is the mutt race
>>18762930https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H9gIjApRjw
>>18762948Nice youtube schizo fan fic made by a mutt.Just imagine if instead of this crap, americans learned.
>>18762953sorry, I didn't know you were retarded. i'll leave you be
>>18762948Saw the video, don't think anything on it is true.
>>18762953Ihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulista_General_Language
>>18762953>>18762984I didn't watch the video, but if it's about Linguas Gerais it's true. We had two iirc. Portuguese was mostly only used by the elites up until a certain point, most people talked using a mishmash of languages.One of the linguas gerais evolved into Nheengatu, the Paulista one died out. I have some old book pdfs about it, but they are in archaic portuguese
>>18761203Mestizaje is a left wing talking point in Latin America (moreso now when woke BS reigns) You won't find any "academic" paper trying to downplay such a phenomenon.
>>18761113There is Welsh that are out there to avoid the English must be counted as part of the reason probably
>>18763954Remember that at the start of the XIX century, when latin america became independent, most of the viceroyalties were composed of a very large population of indios, governed by a small cadre of criollos, with mestizos and some blacks in the middle, all of which had strong regionalist identities, and very few of which saw themselves as purely "Mexican", "Colombian" or "Argentinian", hence a large period of civil wars and secessionist attempts that collapsed the first Mexican Empire, Gran Colombia, the United States of Central America, the Peru-Bolivia Confederation and the United Provinces of Rio of the Plata.Conservatives generally wanted to preserve the colonial era social order with Indios at the bottom, the Church and the Military at the top, each one with their own special rights and priviledges. Meanwhile Liberals generally sought to create republican nation states under unified national identities, and that meant having to create a "Mexican" "Venezuelan" "Chilean" or "Argentinian" people, either through mandatory public education, the encouragement of European migration, or by promoting Mestizaje as a founding myth for their racial identity.
>>18761381Ok pelotudo nobody is buying your reverse psychology
