Why can't Christianity just be normal about sex? Instead of causing everyone to repress until they snap and become like pic related
>>18758994>Why does Christianity FORCE me to have sex with my wife?>I want to be out there sucking hundreds of cocks and getting fucking in the ass and eating feces out of other men's AIDS-ridden anuses>God doesn't allow that, so he must not exist.Grow up.
>>18758994You are probably some dark race shit-skin and your kind was never meant to be included as citizens of any civilization anywhere. You are like a beast, some base animal which chafes against the structure of civilization because you belong in hell, some wild place where you can live according to your demonic nature.
>>18759004You're not white.
>>18759009dark hell-spawned demons are not children of God
>>18759004>>18759010The funny thing about this is that I have literally 1000 years of recorded family history and am entirely european. I am almost certainly whiter than you.
>>18759001Whilst marriage is undoubtedly the best framing for sex, the sad fact is that the vast majority of young men today are not going to be in a position to be able to marry.
>>18759041Assuming that is true (it's not), what odds is your suggestion? Trooning out and loads of gay sex?
>>18759051>Trooning out and loads of gay sex?No. Why would you assume someone who respects the holiness of marriage would want this?
>and by normal about sex I mean this
>>18759012Both of these degenerates are roasting in hell forever now
>>18759001>can't conceive of any middle ground between enforced monogamy and total debaucheryKinda proving OP's point here anon.
>>18759074The middle ground in a black and white reality is nothing short of abomination.
>>18759074>Bro it's totally cool to suck cock as long as you only do it from time to time and your wife doesn't find out...
>>18759074There is no difference between your “middle ground” and total debauchery and defiance of God. Besides, if there’s no God, anything goes! Either you must abstain outside marriage (because God commanded this) or there’s nothing wrong with going on a rape and murder spree of the children from your own family (because there’s no God).
>>18759041>marriage is undoubtedly the best framing for sexIt really isn't, most married couples get sick of each other eventually. Its just that by that point they have kids and a mortgage. Zoomer incels hyping up marriage is genuinely so funny to me.
>>18759078>>18759080>>18759084And this kids is why western civilization finally cracked and turned into tranny land
>>18759088So true, we should all troon out and have gay buttsex all day instead
>>18759091Atheism? Yes, that is why that happened.
>>18759092If getting hitched is the only way you see yourself being able to avoid trooning out and getting fucked in the ass I have bad news for ya son
>>18759088He's right you know
>>18759074Just as there is one path to heaven, straying from monogamy leads to total debauchery.
>>18759095Why shouldn’t you troon out if it’s all about your pleasure?
>>18759100Because I don't want to. Do you? Is that what pleasure looks like to you?
>>18759096Oops wrong pic
>>18759093That's just Western Christianity's repressed shadow self
>>18759105Sounds reasonable.
>>18759103So if that is what they want to do, they should? Trooning is good? And they should abuse drugs and kill children if it makes them feel good too, right? If not, why not?
>>18759108Unironically
>>18759110I'm pretty much ok with people doing as they wish as long as that doesn't infringe on others.
>>18759119How do you determine who’s infringing on whom? Shouldn’t we kill people who recognize the fact trannies are men, since they’re infringing on them through misgendering? And why is it wrong to infringe on others to begin with?
>>18759105Monogamy is a meme, OT Chads had multiple wives.>King Solomon: Had 700 wives and 300 concubines.>King Rehoboam: Had 18 wives and 60 concubines.>King Abijah (Abijam): Had 14 wives.>King David: Had at least 4 to 8 wives (including Michal, Abigail, Ahinoam, Bathsheba, Maacah, Haggith, Abital, and Eglah), plus access to Saul's wives.>Jacob: Had 4 wives and partners (Leah, Rachel, and their handmaids Bilhah and Zilpah).>Gideon: Had many wives and a concubine in Shechem.>Abraham: Had 2 primary wives/partners mentioned (Sarah and Hagar, plus Keturah after Sarah's death).>Esau: Had at least 3 to 5 wives (including Adah, Oholibamah, and Basemath).>Elkanah (father of Samuel): Had 2 wives (Hannah and Peninnah).>Lamech (early descendant of Cain): An early figure noted for having two wives (Adah and Zillah).>King Joash: Had 2 wives.
>>18759127Also Moses if Zipporah and the Cushite woman weren't the same person.
>>18759127>People in the Bible sinned>That means sinning is BVSED!!!!No brain to be found here.
>>18759134Where in the OT does it say polygamy is a sin? Go find the verse, I'll wait.
>>18759127The scriptures specifically forbade the kings from marrying additional wives (Deuteronomy 17:17). You might as well cite Sodom and Gomorrah to show sodomy is actually good. God originally made one man and one woman, that is the standard for all mankind.
>>18759122>How do you determine who’s infringing on whom?Broadly speaking, interfering with their ability to live in a way that is pleasing to them within the fair limit of doing that same courtesy unto others>Shouldn’t we kill people who recognize the fact trannies are men, since they’re infringing on them through misgendering?No, obviously not. >And why is it wrong to infringe on others to begin with?Because we all more or less just want to be happy and content. Respect that desire in others and expect the same back.
>>18759056this literally isn't a thing
>>18759137Deuteronomy 17:17 says not to multiply wives lest his heart is led astray, not that polygamy is a sin. Solomon was led astray because he had pagan wives.
>>18759135>Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.Genesis 2:24 King James. Now tell me, what color is your skin? I'll wait.
>>18759140>t. wearing diapers rn>>18759139>Broadly speaking, interfering with their ability to live in a way that is pleasing to themSo yes, it’s wrong to speak the truth about trannies?>Because we all more or less just want to be happy and content.How does “wanting to be happy” create a duty? What if I want to rape and murder to be happy? Why are you infringing on my ability to live in a way that is pleasing to me through harming others?
>>18759142Your verse says nothing about polygamy and my skin is white, but nice try.
>>18759141>it says not to have many wives, not to not practice polygamy5 million IQ
>>18759141>Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.Yeah, that means polygamy is a sin, at least for the king. You are just desperate to justify the sin in your own heart.
>>18759145Yes it does. That’s the good and necessary consequence of the verse.
>>18759146>>18759147>that ESL reading comprehension The problem is the king's heart being led astray not the number of wives.
>>18759151You should seriously consider getting parts of your brain cut out.
>>18759148If that was a necessary consequence Deuteronomy 21:15-17 would tell them not to have more than one wife.
>>18759152I accept your concession, Pablo.
>>18759155See >>18759152
>>18759153Matthew 19:8>>18759151The moral duty is to not take many wives. That his heart not be led astray is only the reason.
>>18759151>MOOOOOOOOOOOM>MOOOOOOOM I SHIT MY PANTS>AGAIN!
>>18759144>So yes, it’s wrong to speak the truth about trannies?I believe in free speech so say whatever the fuck you want. I don't believe in policing language. But I also don't believe in policing what people do to themselves or how they live their own lives. If someone wants to troon out its no concern of mine. Why would it be?>How does “wanting to be happy” create a duty?Because no one person's happiness arbitrarily gets to take precedence over any other's. You want to rape and murder because that makes you happy? Well tough shit, you don't get to run roughshod over others for your own amusement because you're in no way more important than them. Find some other way to satisfy your urges. Destructive urges are usually the product of something repressed anyway.
Bible: fabricated church evidence. Result: Milliins of believers. Lovecraftian writings: Mentions city that is found to exist in the desert, the guy dreamt -with automated writing while asledp- his work. Result: Fiction. Idk, niggas, you should consider other options.
>>18759156>>18759158>>18759159>not a single verse prohibiting polygamy
>>18759169Cool! It's all theoretical anyway since you can't get even one girl to talk with you.
>>18759170Post your beautiful monogamous family, my brother in Christ. I hope you don't leave them unattended to shitpost on /his/
>>18759084Judah went to sleep with a prostitute and it was his widowed daughter in law in disguise, she got pregnant and gave birth to a son, and that son is the ancestor of the lineage of Jesus Christ.
>>18759097If the goal of marriage is to procreate and multiply as the stars in the sky then it's only logical for men to be able to marry multiple wives.
>>18759142Only women and efeminized men fight against the God given right men have to multiple wives.
>>18759164>I believe in free speech so say whatever the fuck you wantBut that directly contradicts your other principle of not interfering with others’ pleasure. Telling trannies the truth directly interferes with their pleasure, so much apparently that we are told it drives them to kill themselves and others.>Because no one person's happiness arbitrarily gets to take precedence over any other'sWhy not? Who decided that? Why would I care about anyone’s happiness but my own? And this still doesn’t explain how there is a duty, where did this duty come from? What has bound me to this duty? Furthermore, this is of no consequence. Nobody’s happiness takes precedence over another’s, therefore, their happiness takes no precedence over mine and I am free to rape and kill them. The truth is there is absolutely no other standard of ethics than the will of God. If there is no God, anything goes. You enjoy fornication, but the Marquis de Sade enjoyed torturing women, and another enjoys violating young boys. If there’s no greater good than enjoyment, then these are the greatest good. Making man the standard of morality always leads to the most shocking cruelties. Exek. 18:25 “You say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way not just? Is it not your ways that are not just?” We all have sinned against the holy God, who is the only true standard of morality, He who alone has the right to say this is good or this is evil. The bible says we were born opposed to Him and alienated from His goodness. He would have been just to destroy every last one of us, but He is merciful, and so He sent His Son into the world to pay for the sins of everyone who believes, so that those who believe in His mercy will not suffer the penalty which they deserved for their evils. This mercy is offered even to you, if only you leave your sins behind and take hold of Jesus in faith.
>>18759164>what people do to themselves or how they live their own lives. If someone wants to troon out its no concern of mine. Why would it beThat's because you really don't care about anyone but yourself.
Is casual sex with your wife a bad thing if you do not intended to make a child? Serious question for christians.
>>18759173This was a sin both on Judah’s part (laying with a prostitute) and his daughter’s part (laying with her father). These actions are clearly proscribed in the law of God, which is what tells us our duty concerning them. That they are in the Messianic line tells us not that it is good to commit sin, but that God is merciful towards many sinners.
>>18759182No
>>18759182It's not a bad thing as long as you don't use birth control. If she's pregnant you can still have sex with her.
>>18759182Yes
>>18759171>my brother in ChristThat's not really in evidence. You clearly decided long ago you don't care what the Bible teaches.
>>18759182anal and oral sex with your wife is ok too
>>18759151How many is too many for a king anyway
>>187591933 is the only one I need
>>18759189Christ never said polygamy is a sin. Nice family picture though.>>18759193Judging by Solomon 700 might be a bit too many.
>>18759181Exactly.
>>18759197Jesus never said anything about felony home invasion
>>18759197Jesus portrayed himself in the second coming as a groom set to marry 10 virgins but only 5 make it to the wedding. If polygamy is a sin, why would he illustrate himself as a sinner in his parable?
>>18759199Probably because Exodus 22:2-3 already addressed it.
>>18759202That's actually a good point.
>>18759203So we’re agreed polygamy is a sin even though Jesus didn’t personally say anything about it.
>>18759041Isn't it still 50/50 men and woman? There should be a woman for every man.
>>18759202>>18759204And he's a king...
>>18759180>But that directly contradicts your other principle of not interfering with others’ pleasureI would draw the line at measurable, material interference. Words are meaningless unless backed up by action and mature, sensible people ought to know when to ignore the words of an imbecile. >Why not? Who decided that? Why would I care about anyone’s happiness but my own?Because you are no different from them on any fundamental level. Your drives, instincts, interests etc. are more or less the same as theirs. Do you want to live in a world where people constantly bother each other or not? I don't, so I believe its best if we just respect one another's basic wish to live happy and unbothered. I believe that it is perfectly possible for all but a few exceptionally mentally disturbed individuals to be happy and free without depriving others of the same. And as regards the Marquis de Sade, we have no evidence whatsoever that he ever did anything of the sort described in his books. As far as we know they are nothing more than works of fiction meant to provoke and entertain. Thus, as far as we know, he did no harm to anyone. The same cannot be said for many people acting according to what they believed was the will of God.
>>18759206Non sequitur.>>18759208Kek, case closed.
>>18759202The virgins are bridesmaids, not brides.
>>18759210Either polygamy is sinful, or felony home invasion is not sinful.
>>18759181I have enough empathy for others to respect their wishes to live as they please. So no, I don't appoint myself to some egotistical position of "care" where I dictate how they ought to live according to my subjective wishes.
>>18759213According to the OT the former is a sin while the later isn't.
>>18759211If the virgins represent believers and the groom the Messiah, who is Jesus marrying if not them?
>>18759218the former isn't a sin while the latter is*
>>18759169Note that Luther’s counsel to Phillip was private, and given to nobody beside Phillip of Hesse, and that his public teaching on the matter was anti-polygamist. At the same time when the Presbyterians began to evangelize Utah they did not compel the Mormons to put away their many wives, because they thought it the lesser of two evils compared to the women and children being abandoned. The fundamental difference between Luther and the Presbyterians and you, preacher of iniquity, is that they viewed polygamy much like slavery, as a moral evil which is to be abolished, but not so odious as to absolutely merit annihilation in all circumstances. Whereas you hold it up as a good to be pursued.
>>18759222>the copeWhat's morally evil about polygamy?
>>18758994There is no normality. If you do not repress, you have the society that we have now. It is worse in my opinion.
>>18759225Betas have a smaller chance of reproducing.
>>18759209>I would draw the line at measurable, material interferenceAnd what pagan magic is keeping words out of the category of measurable, material action?>Do you want to live in a world where people constantly bother each other or not?If I say yes, do I win? What I really want to know is how that is not the outcome of your philosophy. You offer no other reason than the mere whims of man, and as such you also offer absolutely no standard by which such acts can be condemned.>And as regards the Marquis de Sade, we have no evidence whatsoever that he ever did anything of the sort described in his booksI cannot comprehend the naivete required to believe this. His character, and the character of his fellow Jacobins was plain enough.>The same cannot be said for many people acting according to what they believed was the will of God.There has, no doubt, been many sins done falsely in the name of God. But I absolutely deny harmfulness to be the formal cause of moral wrong, on the contrary, this absolute (really, pretended) opposition to harm has already been the cause of millions if not billions dead, and many more living lives unworthy to be lived, and there are times when it is good to harm others such as in the execution of a murderer. The formal cause of moral wrong consists only in disobedience to the divine law.
>>18759219Not mentioned or relevant in the parable.>>18759218>>18759221So you’re just going to ignore the scriptures you’ve already been refuted from?
>>18759230That's a moral good.
>>18759225It is contrary to the natural order which God designed in which He made one man and one woman.
>>18759237>So you’re just going to ignore the scriptures you’ve already been refuted from?Not a SINGLE one of those verses prohibits polygamy. Have another one.
>>18759239He made man able to have hundreds of children in a year, while women can have just a few if they're lucky with twins. That shows his plan for man.
>>18759202And let's not forget these two.
>>18759240It’s like the doctrine of the Trinity. There is no verse which contains the words “the Trinity is true” and only a very shallow mind requires that. But there are many scriptures, especially taken together, which must be repudiated if the doctrine is denied. That is the position you are in, of repudiating these clear scriptures. As long as your objection is only that it is not in the words, then I leave to you the words, and keep for my side the meaning.>>18759243It is not whatever circumstance you invent in your mind which determines the principle, but the actual original creation itself.
>>18759202It is a parable. Look at what he said and then compare it to what he did. By their fruits.
>>18759249>It’s like the doctrine of the Trinity. There is no verse which contains the words “the Trinity is true”Because it isn't. >It is not whatever circumstance you invent in your mind which determines the principle, but the actual original creation itself.The original creation says nothing about how humanity would develop after the fall. By your logic man shouldn't have to work either.
>>18759253You’re a heretic.>By your logic man shouldn't have to work either.Man was always meant to work, Genesis 2:15 “Then Yahweh God took the man and set him in the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it.” Only after the fall did his work become taxing.
>>18759257>Man was always meant to work, Genesis 2:15 “Then Yahweh God took the man and set him in the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it.” Only after the fall did his work become taxing.By your logic he should still be cultivating the garden of Eden then.
>>18759249>It is not whatever circumstance you invent in your mind which determines the principle, but the actual original creation itself.It's true. God wanted Israel to have 12 sons in a shot amount told time so he caused him to have 4 wives when he only ever wanted and loved one.So even if you only want one God will still give you many if he desires and wants you to multiply. It clearly cannot be a sin in God's eyes since it's something that happened frequently and in his favor.
>>18759236>And what pagan magic is keeping words out of the category of measurable, material action?If words aren't matched with action, they're just noise. >If I say yes, do I win?No, because I know you'd be lying. Humans are fairly predictable creatures. >You offer no other reason than the mere whims of manThat's all we got. There are no universal standards set down by the almighty because frankly we just aren't that important in the overall scheme of the cosmos. >There has, no doubt, been many sins done falsely in the name of GodNo shit. Though obviously you have some unique insight into the will of God that they didn't have. >But I absolutely deny harmfulness to be the formal cause of moral wrong, on the contrary, this absolute (really, pretended) opposition to harm has already been the cause of millions if not billions deadWhat billions dead are we talking about here exactly? And if harmfulness itself is not wrong, why would the murder of billions even be a bad thing? >and many more living lives unworthy to be livedWho are they and who gets to determine what constitutes an "unworthy" life? >here are times when it is good to harm others such as in the execution of a murdererI would say that is perhaps a necessary evil to mitigate the possibility of harm being done onto others. But then if we're not even operating from a point of view of harm being a bad thing which should be avoided, we're just discussing arbitrary rules supposedly dictated by a powerful non-corporeal being, i.e glorified folklore with no bearing on material reality.
>>18759219>who is Jesus marryingThe "Bride of Christ" is universally established as a singular, unified corporate entity rather than a collection of separate marriages.
>>18759273Nta, but I want you to know that the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath, and has authority on earth to forgive sin. Pick up your tools and start cultivating.
>>18759279>It clearly cannot be a sin in God's eyesThere are some like you who choose to live like this for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. If you can accept this, you should accept it.
>>18759325Was he given that authority?
>>18759134They weren't sinning. Scripture says Gideon was called by God in Judges 6:11, which says “The LORD is with you, O mighty man of valor.” Now, this man whom the ‘Lord was with’, was a polygamist. We see this in Judges 8:20, which says “Gideon had seventy sons of his own, since he had MANY WIVES.”Take the case of Abijah. Scripture describes him in 2 Chronicles 13:10 as a man who did not forsake God, and in 2 Chronicles 13:11, he is described as a man who carried out “the requirements of the LORD our God.” Yet, he had many wives. We see this in 2 Chronicles 13:21:“Abijah grew strong, married fourteen wives.”In the case of King Joash, he was a minor when he became king. So he was out under the regency of priests. Now, it was the leading priest of God, a man called Jehoiada, who himself selected two wives for the young King Joash. And Scripture described Joash as doing “what was right in the eyes of the Lord”. We see this in 2 Chronicles 24:1-3:“Joash was seven years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem forty years. His mother’s name was Zibiah; she was from Beersheba. Joash did what was right in the eyes of the Lord all the years of Jehoiada the priest. Jehoiada chose two wives for him, and he had sons and daughters.”What about David, who was given his own wives, not by a priest; but by God Himself? We see that in 2 Samuel 12:8:“I gave your master's house to you, and your master's wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more.”
>>18758994definitely a skill issue
>>18759314Represented by the ten virgins. All ten believed he was coming but only five were diligent in their works and were prepared.
>>18759333Yes
>>18759169>Sola Scriptura go brrrrr
>>18759409>Father O'Donnell told me to have just one wife and leave little Timmy alone with him twice a week
>>18759248Why are they white?
>>18759127And some fucked their daughters and blamed it on the girl
>>18759093Notice how Christians never post hot femboys? They are worried it might sway their own kind so they post pseudo-vampires instead
>>18760203Lot did nothing wrong.
>>18759001>instantly starts talking about gay sex
>>18760229Christkings never post “hot” faggots because there’s no such thing, faggot.
>>18759004>You are probably some dark race shit-skin and your kind was never meant to be included as citizens of any civilization anywhere. You are like a beast, some base animal which chafes against the structure of civilization because you belong in hell, some wild place where you can live according to your demonic nature.Germany and Sweden were colder Africa 2,000 years ago while all of civilization was the "brown" people you claim to ridicule.
>>18759088>It really isn't, most married couples get sick of each other eventually.but enough about your alcoholic white trash parents
>>18759105>>18759096This is the thing that pisses me off the most. I could be friends with someone who thinks ill go to hell because i dont believe in God. It doesnt bother me. What does bother me is when christians think they are more virtuous than atheists when their religion has verses like picrel.
>>18760384Denounce Vishnu.
>>18760390Vishnu is Narayan, it's impossible to denounce Him.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv58y2w6dGk
>>18760240Well OP is a faggot
>>18759001>Why does Christianity FORCE me to have sex with my wife?It actually doesn't. Paul, who wrote most of the books of the new testament, says that the optimal gentile sexual behavior is to die unmarried and childless.But he's a genitally mutilated pharisiac rabbi mohel who wants his racial gentile enemies to go extinct, so you know...
>>18759292>If words aren't matched with actionWords are literally themselves actions, this distinction is arbitrary and false.>No, because I know you'd be lyingI will take that as a “yes” because you require me to be lying. But understand that there are deranged people who do say yes and say it sincerely.>That's all we got. There are no universal standards set down by the almighty because frankly we just aren't that important in the overall scheme of the cosmos.If that is all we got, we are truly destitute, and your erroneous supposition that God has not spoken does not increase the value of what is worthless. But we do have the universal standards set down by the almighty, they’re right here in this book, which were given to us because we are unique among all created things as images of God, and here among us is where the Lord has cast the divine play of history, while all the rest of creation is only the set design. We are the most important thing in the world, although what is beyond the world is even more important.>No shit. Though obviously you have some unique insight into the will of God that they didn't have.Actually, if we have no knowledge of the will of God we cannot even say they acted falsely, let alone that it was sinful. Again, it is a great contradiction that you reproach anyone’s behavior with no standard by which to do so. But I do have greater insight into the will of God for two reasons. 1. I studied the book, while they were either ignorant or nullified it. 2. I have been born again, while they were unregenerate men still enslaved to the passions of the flesh.(1/5)
>>18760374>Germany and Sweden were colder Africa 2,000 years ago
>>18759292>What billions dead are we talking about here exactly? And if harmfulness itself is not wrong, why would the murder of billions even be a bad thing?I am counting all those killed because of liberalism, from those slaughtered by the French Revolution, to the massacre of the preborn, to the epidemic of suicides among transsexuals caused by those who encouraged them in the destructive lie instead of rebuking them in love. Now, I never said harmfulness is not wrong, only that it is not the formal cause of wrongness, whereas you make it to be the sole basis upon which something is wrong, and then only if it is the harm of another. Whereas in the atheist worldview there is absolutely no reason to value human life, which to them is nothing more than chemical accidents and biological machines, in the Christian worldview man’s life is tremendously intrinsically valuable because it is made in the image of God, and God expressed His repulsion at murder when He rebuked Cain, saying “What have you done?” for by this He made plain how utterly apart from His design and will for creation this act was. Therefore, He commanded us “Thou shalt not kill”, and it is among the very most odious of sins. (2/5)
>>18759292>Who are they and who gets to determine what constitutes an "unworthy" life?They are the degenerate zombies who have so degraded themselves with perverse sexuality and drugs that they would be more dignified as corpses. God has the right to decide what is a worthy life.>we're just discussing arbitrary rules supposedly dictated by a powerful non-corporeal beingI have labored to show you that it is precisely the opposite, it is you and not us whose rules are arbitrary. Every single moral doctrine you give can be refuted by saying “So what? Says who?” because it is nothing more than your arbitrary whims which you grant has no objective substance at all. If my arbitrary whims are to rape and murder, your arbitrary whims are no better, and then by what standard will you condemn my action? Whereas the law of God stands on the shoulders of the eternal God who by nature is, and is good. (3/5)
>>18759292>glorified folklore with no bearing on material realityThat is blasphemy sir, you provoke the wrath of God, have you no fear of God? It is also far from true, as whether it is wrong to murder little children, and if one has peace with God has tremendous bearing on this world. Do not be deceived, God does not wait for anyone to die, nor does anyone die unless He is the one to send them to the grave. As long as you are outside of the grace of Jesus Christ God hates you personally and it is impossible to experience Him as favorable, this is why men suffer and live miserable lives of stress and sadness and pain even if they give themselves great pleasure. God’s wrath is always eagerly waiting to swallow you up, and you do not know when or by what means He will send you to hell. Do not deceive yourself that it is distant, your next breath could be your last, your next step a step into the gaping maw of hell. Surely there are none in hell today who did not believe it was very far from them and that they could relax in comfort mocking the anger of God, supposing they would escape the sentence of hell, but His wrath was too quick for them, it came like a thief in the night; one man was shot, another was struck by a car, a third had a slow ignoble death from disease which had suddenly appeared, a fourth his heart simply stopped beating and he fell over dead. In our day there are foolish rich men who are burning piles of money seeking some means of prolonging their lives indefinitely, from what do you suppose they are fleeing, and why with all their wealth and technology are they unable to escape it? God will not be mocked. (4/5)
>>18759292There is no escape from His anger except through faith in Jesus Christ the Savior, who suffered the hatred of God in the place of many sinners, the just for the unjust, the one who knows Him has peace with God who works all things together for his good; he is happy even though he suffers. There is no greater blessing which one could find in all material creation, and it is promised only to those who seek refuge from God’s wrath in Jesus Christ alone.(5/5)
>>18760384Well, jews think it is virtuous to destroy anti-semites (anyone who opposes them in any way is 'amalek').What makes christian gentiles cucked is that they think it is virtuous to destroy the political enemies (amalek) of their own racial enemies (jews).They're sudokuing and taking us down with them and calling it virtue.
>>18760421>Words are literally themselves actions
>>18760390I get that you are trying to be racist towards me because you failed to address my argument. However, i assure you that i am not indian, and the reason why i cannot denounce vishnu is because, i dont actually know who that guy is, but secondly, i think anti theism is dumb and im not going to denounce any God because denouncing fake entities is pointless.
>>18760439Ok goober.
>>18760384Even the best Christian apologists are completely unable to defend those verses.
>>18760440ntaAll you need to know is he's an Indo-European deity, and people worshipping their own deities makes jews and their golems seethe autistically.t. not a jeet, that's all I know about Vishnu too
>>18760432Imagine taking /pol/ memes and unironically turning them into your worldview
>>18760440>>18760455>refuses to denounce Vishnu>Vishnu is good actuallyGood morning sirs
>>18760453Not at all. Go look at the evangelicals. They just give the default reading >>18760432Everyone else is trying to pretend it isn't just about killing the enemies of the jews, and they are obviously failing at that.
>>18760336Many of your closeted homo christians would beg to differ. I dare you to make a collage of people who look like this, see how well your argument still holds up coward
>>18760456I don't listen to /pol/ to learn about jews. I listen to jews to learn about jews.You can find countless videos of the Israeli top brass, dozens of rabbis, random jews on the street, etc. all publically referencing amalek in this exact way.Also, what jews believe is not my worldview, since I'm neither jewish, nor christian, nor muslim, nor marxist or anything derived from this.
>>18760464Yeah but evangelicals are delusional.
>>18760466>wow, look how hot this man is, bet that changes your mind nowNo you’re just a faggot.
>>18760458Why would an Indo-European denounce an Indo-European god? Why would an Indo-European accept a jewish god? These are questions you cannot answer.>Good morning sirsShalom.
>>18760470>an Israeli military guy said a thing, therefore Christians are against the political enemies of Jews and Jews are their “racial enemies” (whatever that is)Brainwashed by /pol/
>>18760453You obviously have never heard the best Christian apologists. God has the right to bring judgement on wicked nations.
>>18760473They're almost perfectly correct in their interpretation of the bible. The bible is just a really fucked up text, so they come off as delusional. But it is entirely reasonable IF you take the delusional leap of faith and assume that the jewish truth claims presented in the bible are true.
>>18760477I wouldn’t expect an Indian to denounce an Indian god, pajeet.
>>18760384Tangible proof Christianity is inherently zionist by moral
>>18760484Are the Jews in the room with us right now? Is it their fault that you weren’t born a woman?
>>18760479>>an Israeli military guy said a thingYes, and all the other people I mentioned. Nice try though.>Christians are against the political enemies of Jews 100% correct. The most powerful and christian country on the planet has spent several generations annihilating the political enemies of the jews both individually and at the state level. This stuff has been going on since before Theodosius.>and Jews are their “racial enemies” (whatever that is)100% correct according to the internal logic of jews and their scripture.Greentexting the truth doesn't make it false.
>>18760483God can, but you can justify all sorts of atrocities by labeling a group of people as wicked and kill children. No apologist was ever able to defend this.
>>18760486And yet you denounce your own gods. Strange innit.Unless of course you're merely jewish, in which case worshipping your own god is perfectly reasonable.
>>18760489>no rebuttal whatsoeverReal high verbal IQ there, jacob.
>>18760497>>18760499>>18760501There is one true God of all peoples, and the bible is His holy word. There is no Jewish conspiracy and there’s no such thing as racial enemies.
>>18760487Wait till you learn about islam, the 1.5 update to (nestorian) christianity which just failed to be implemented as widely as intended.It is even more noahide and anti-gentile than what christianity in practice turned out to be.
>>18760505I don’t tend to rebut psychotic delusions
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>>18760508Yes, yes, we know you loving being cattle. Now quiet down and let the real humans talk or I'll go get a jew to put you back in your pen.
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>>18760474By the way, its more gay to be repulsed by feminine features than not. Maybe thats why you guys worship a muscular bearded half naked man strapped to a cross?
>>18760508>>18760514>>18760518
>>18758994The natural man cannot discern the Spirit.1 Corinthians 2:14 King James Version14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.James 4:4 King James Version4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.Says only the Spirit is normal. The world thinks they are normal by being God’s enemy. I am in fact a man who has lived in God’s spirit and Him in me and have faults but in Jesus Christ I know what these verses are talking about since I do not live according to the flesh , that part gets put away. The Spirit is identifying the truth in Word and in Spirit and the eternal marriage between you and God. The Bible says as Christians we inherit ALL things. Because God inherits all of them. That’s why the Word of God can be hard to understand. It’s talking about everything, all at once, but the order for All things so that chaos doesn’t just burn everything up because chaos wouldn’t be livable in.Hebrews 4:12King James VersionFor the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.Without the natural man’s ability to discern the spirit, the Bible is a discerner itself, identifying the things of their heart , their purpose, their intent, without their need.“He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.”Revelation 21:7 (KJV)The difference is christians have a different order than the world. Our flesh is crucified and put away. And no we don’t snap. The only thing I will ever want / have ever wanted is my marriage bed with my wife who is not incestual relationship.
>>18760522>The only thing I will ever want / have ever wanted is my marriage bed with my wife who is not incestual relationship.Saint Paul is disappointed in you for your weakness.
>>18759084The Christian mind cannot comprehend not wanting to hurt people without an outside source telling you not to.Is the only reason you don't murder-rape your family because God doesn't want you to? If you were atheist would you murder-rape them?This has always seemed like a bewildering concept to me, that so many Christians admit that without a belief in God they would just kill and rape everyone and everything.
>>18760527Yeah well Paul was not who baptized me. ;) Paul is great but he isn’t in control of God’s plan for me.
>>18760529>Paul is great but he isn’t in control of God’s plan Why did Yahweh choose him to write most of the new testament then?
>>18760529>>18760548More importantly, if you're not jewish, why did Yahweh choose him as the apostle to the non-jews, meaning the apostle to (you)?
>>18760528Do you know not to lust after another man's wife, desire her in your mind and fuck her in your imagination while masturbating? That is a major sin before the Holy One but completely normal to you.Do you know to be merciful and forgiving? To not want to get back an every one who does you even the slightest offense? To let things slide? To be long suffering and not hold grudges?Do you know not to lie even if it benefits you? Do you know not to rely on your own understanding? So you know to respect the elders? Do you honor your parents? You yo hold sacred what is holy? Do you know to be kind and generous with the poor? Do you know to always be just and fair and unbiased even if it means you or the people you love are te ones who are declared wrong?You don't know the beginning of Rigtheousness and morality, you think not murdering and raping is enough to be declare a good person? Your bar is very low and your standards are on the ground.God's standards are way higher than you think. Even the most upright of beings is crooked compared to him. If he does not have mercy and gives grace to those who seek him, not even those could be saved and declare rigtheous.A man is declared rigtheous by God's compassion, not by their own merits.
>>18760554>if you weren't domesticated by jews you wouldn't be domesticated by jewsno shit
>>18760528>The Christian mind cannot comprehend not wanting to hurt people without an outside source telling you not to.They do, they dont actually believe what they say. Its just a leak of the impressions they have of atheists, atheists arent part of their group so obviously they are lying scum who must do all sorts of bad things behind the scenes so they say exactly that. Its standard "other group" prejudice. They arent actually thinking of themselves or their group when they say that so they get caught off guard when you apply their logic to them
>>18760558Do you know not to envy the Jews? I guess not.
>>18760554All im hearing is "I would totally do all those things if i didnt believe an all powerful being was threatening me with eternal punishment". Have you ever considered you might just be a bad person and normal people would find all the things you say immoral just from their own moral compass?
>>18760569You have a demon in your ear then. I thank God I was made aware of what is evil so that I can avoid doing them and not go through the mother of all embarrassments when I stand to be judge before Him and His Holy Ones who's eyes and hearts are pure and never sinned second in their lives.It's going to also be quite scary when you see how those mighty and terrifying ones are appalled and indignant and outraged of your behavior, and when you see how much do they love those who you have hurt and humiliated on earth and they look at you with eyes full of tears and anger.It's not going to be a fun day for the wicked.
>>18760580>I thank God I was made aware of what is evilOn second thought, religion might not be a bad thing to keep you psychopaths in check. The very idea that you had no idea of what evil even was before you learnt the rules in that back frighten me. I would not feel comfortable around you
>>18760562>you haven't been domesticated by jewsno shit
>>18760580>t. guy who loves being domesticated>>18760584>t. guy who is unaware that he has been domesticatedWhy exactly should I forgive my enemies and refrain from impregnating hot women unless some foreskin-gobbling demon demanded it under threat of eternal torture?
>>18760606Envy is evil. >>18760612I love my God enough to continue talking with someone who calls him a horrible name.
>>18760645>I love being dumb cattle>not being dumb cattle is evilwe get it
>posts degenerate maladjusted satanic garbage>"why can't Christianity?"Go hug a train at your earliest convenience Ramshit
>>18760671OP is saying that christianity caused the degenerate maladjusted satanic garbage. Learn to read gooder, golem.
>>18760679>Christianity caused itRetarded take and you're even more retarded for entertaining it.
>>18760420I would take (your) pilpul bullshit more seriously if Paul didn't literally die doing what he preached. But unfortunately for your hooknosed lies, Truth is invincible.
>>18760686He's right you know
>>18760694>t. jeet desperate to win back his lost izzatAbsolutely revolting
>>18760705His statement is correct thoughbeit
>>18760690In other words, you haven't read the new testament in a while and forgot that it absolutely does the exact opposite of forcing you to have sex with your wife.Why read my posts instead of brushing up on your religion then?>trusting jewish truth claims to support jewish truth claimskek ok broIgnoring the source criticism issues, you might be intrigued to learn that people do in fact knowingly go to their death all the time in an attempt to harm their enemies.
>>18760686How is he wrong though? de Sade himself points it out. The whole church is famous for attracting suppressed perverts and diddling boys instead of marrying and breeding like a normal person.All the self-proclaimed "satanists" are a perfect example too.
>>18760508>There is no Jewish conspiracy and there’s no such thing as racial enemies.That's right. There is no war in Ba Sing Se. Oceania has always been our greatest ally.
>>18759001>I want to be out there sucking hundreds of cocks and getting fucking in the ass and eating feces out of another men's AIDS-ridden anusesA man is not defiled by what goes into his mouth, but what comes out of it. - Matt 15:11
>>18760828As long as you don't burp afterwards, you're good to go. - Tel Aviv 19:46
>>18759056Christians popularized anal sex in Europe.
>>18760832Based and redpilled. But isn't it curious how Jesus explicitly says eating feces from other men's aids ridden anuses does not defile a man?
>>18760229Dude those 'peudo-vampires' are the Christians. Have you not seen the drag queen pastor?
>>18758994I have grown up to hate this protestant christian moralitywhere everything is black and white and there is no degrees of nuanceall violence is bad therefore VIDEOGAMES ARE ALSO BAD BECAUSE THEY ARE LE VIOLENTdid you know that the bible belt has higher degree of porn addiction than the rest of america? wow its almost as if this all or nothing morality is retarded
>>18759001Antisemite of the year award
>>18760420>Paul, who wrote most of the books of the new testament, says that the optimal gentile sexual behavior is to die unmarried and childless.No, he doesn't. >>18760487Enjoy Hell.
>>18760775>0 reading comprehensionGo fuck yourself darktroon.
>>18760528>The Christian mind cannot comprehend not wanting to hurt people without an outside source telling you not to.Reality cannot comprehend it being wrong to hurt people without some actual standard of ethics that prohibits it. The fact it’s apparently impossible for atheists to defend their absurdist worldview without gross misrepresentations of the other side really makes me think, almost like they cannot survive the argument. >Is the only reason you don't murder-rape your family because God doesn't want you to? If you were atheist would you murder-rape them?If there was no God there would be nothing wrong with murdering or raping my family, it would be no worse than the alternative, all ethical propositions would be objectively equal. >>18760560Actually, I would say atheists are lying scum who do all sorts of bad things because I’ve observed them being lying scum who do all sorts of bad things, and I wouldn’t say there’s anything behind the scenes about it they’re very open. The only reason they are atheists is because they are terrible people. Actually encountering atheists and observing them made me appreciate the wisdom of our forefathers in criminalizing atheism because they are incorrigible evil people, who like parasites will destroy every nation they infest.
>>18761452Let it be known here and now that i, an atheist, have never raped or murdered anyone ever. In fact, my biggest crime was using my mum's sms to buy slightly more habbo coins than i was given permission to back when i was 12.If you find this so unbelievable that the only possible conclusion you can form is that im lying. Then perhaps you are just coping about how you and the people you praise are psychos
>>18761717Yeah they’re dangerous psychos because they misgender transwomen.
>>18761150>No, he doesn't.uh oh, another e-crusader who forgot to read mohel saul? Read corinthians before posting again.>>18761343See above.
>>18761961>Read corinthians before posting again.No. Keep stoking those flames, rodent.
>>18759084Or you can just rape and murder and commit incest and then just "repent". That's the way most people act.
>>18761452>Actually, I would say atheists are lying scum who do all sorts of bad things because I’ve observed them being lying scum who do all sorts of bad things, and I wouldn’t say there’s anything behind the scenes about it they’re very open.90% of US prisoners are religious lol
>>18761966why are those guys cooking ricky gervais in chocolate
>>18761987they're boiling him in his own excrement (it's what is currently happening to Jesus for committing apostasy)
>>18761991oh yuck
Hey just here to say that I had sex as an atheist, had sex as a Christian convert, and I have been married for years, I kinda miss cumming on my wife's tits (cum only goes in vagina if you're Catholic) but our sex life is great, God bless.
>>18761966>refuses to read the biblebased and pagan-pilled
>>18762388>(cum only goes in vagina if you're Catholic)Why does it matter where your cum goes? I'm assuming you're not getting her pregnant every time you have sex anyway so what difference would it make?
>>18762388>cum only goes in vagina if you're CatholicI'm glad you guys are focusing on the important matters.
>>18762392It's performative virtue signalling by and for philosemitic communists (but who believe in the jewish tribal god as the creator of the cosmos).Saying "I only coom in baginas" makes them better than (you) filthy heathen who glazes your girls tits, regardless of the fact that he only fucks her wife while she's in her safe window and has as few kids as you.
>>18762395How long until nigger pope
>>18762388Based cuckold allowing African men to cum inside his wife's vagina.
>>18762430Next one, or the one after that at the latest. According to their favourite genitally mutilated pharisaic rabbi mohel, there is no difference between the Greek and the j*w, so any christfag who even notices the difference is an apostate.
>>18762392It's hard to predict ovulation/how long sperm lives + you do not take specific measures to avoid pregnancy; you have exact same type of sex, just at a different time. Whereas a condom/pulling out means introducing different steps to the process. I guess that's RCC's logic. and wew @ seething, really makes you wonder why people are so obsessed
>>18762392And re where cum goes, procreation is God's gift where we can participate in divine creation by creating humans. The highest effect of procreation is creation; focusing on sex for sex's sake shows you fail to at least try and appreciate the ability to create another human being - who is created in an image of God.
>>18762653>>18762672>Yahweh made sex really fun but if you do it for fun, you get tortured foreverThis kind of performative puritanism is how we end up with fag parades.
>>18762430The real question is WHEN they get a nigger pope, will the nigger pope kiss the feet of neo-nazi pagans or will the self-humiliation rituals suddenly stop?
>>18762779>bro u can do whatever just cum in pussy>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PERFORMATIVE PURITANISM OOOOOOOOOOOO HOW CAN I LIVE WITH THIS THIS CAUSE GAY PRIDE
>>18762823Greentexting something and adding some vowels doesn't make it false. That your position is so delusional as to make the fags sound reasonable is an indictment on you, not me. I want you both to go to reeducation minecraft servers far from mine.Without appealing to jewish authority, explain why I shouldn't cum on my pregnant girl's tits (too late), or on her post-menopausal tits at some point in the future.
>>18762783The self-humiliation rituals will continue until morale improves.
>>18762951I think christian morale will be all maxxed out when they bow to a negro simultaneously larping as a spiritual Roman emperor and a spiritual jew who teaches them about the truth claims of an ancient genitally mutilated pharisaic rabbi mohel jew based on his midrashic interpretation of the hebrew torah as personified by a fictional character who can best be described as a perverse mockery of Dionysus.
>>18762969Christian accelerationism and the "Blessed Reflex" aren't given enough attention.
>>18759012Both of these quotes are absolute midwit drivel on par with the opinions of your average pseudo-intellectual with purple hair.
>>18763115Wait until you discorvery why Sade said this edgy crap.
>>18762779Note that what he’s saying does not represent the revelation of God in holy scripture. The papal Antichrist has set himself against heaven with immense hubris, pretending to the throne of God by arrogating to himself the authority to add and subtract from God’s laws (see Revelation 22:18). There is nothing in the bible about having a right place for that. Anything is permitted in the marriage bed as long as it is not against nature, and part of the design of marriage was for the pleasure of husband and wife. It is not strictly procreative and to have sex with your wife for pleasure is not sin.
>>18762430>>187625151. Racism is a sin and ideological racism is a false dogma that damns the soul 2. The leftists actually don’t want a black pope, because the only black contender is an arch-conservative that would drive the sodomites and liberals out of the Roman church
>>18761973You can’t fool God or cheat God, you can pretend to repent, but the false repentance you describe will only increase their judgement.>>18761981“Religious” in not Christian, and most of the Christians in prison were not Christians when they went in.
>>18763194>an arch-conservative that would drive the sodomites and liberals out of the Roman churchGood luck to him.
>>18763186>schismatic opinionChristianity will surely unite the West in two more weeks.
>>18763194>racism is a false dogma that damns the soul>le based black christianYou showed up right on cue. Are you a tulpa that I created, or am I just this well attuned to the christfag matrix?
>>18759182The best thing for your relationship and community is for your wife to be fully sexually satisfied. If not, they become neurotic and dangerous. Tame the tigress.
>>18763776The schismatics are the ones who force the schism by their deadly heresies.
>>18764427Says the guy following a schismatic form of judaism
>>18762850You know how the more you learn about art the more you appreciate it? Same for creation. What current culture teaches is the lowest common denominator by definition - we live in the age of mass culture. Profaning sex is the lowest form of sex even when it's creative.
>>18764707That's cool and all, but you didn't explain why I shouldn't cum on her tits though.
