Would Gravettians have mogged Aryans even with a 25,000 year technological gap?They killed so many mammoths that the mammoths went extinct and had so much food that their women could be extremely obese while wandering the frozen steppe.
>>18754373>their women could be extremely obeseBased as all hell.
>>18754727I know right?
>>18754373Gravettians were much stronger than Aryans.
Aryans were half chg (med) mutts so yeah
>>18754373Also, they liked fat chicks because short thick is a survival advantage in arctic.
>>18754373You think it was the chads killing mammoths, raiding neighbours and securing territory that were the ones idolising Marjorie Dawes? After all that bother, that was what they wanted to come home to? You think a chad even needed to so delicately and lovingly carve something like this as a present for the woman he wanted? No, he just took her, because he had already earned the right. And he didn't want some saggy fat woman. Mankind hasn't changed. No-one wants a whale, today or anywhere in history, unless they are mentally ill or a beta simp.And it was the beta simps carving these. Just so they could hand them out to the village whale for a scrap of pussy. The village whale that had probably been run through by a chad ten years prior. It was their only chance. Even if a mentally ill chad wanted a slampig, he didn't need to find a mammoth tusk capacious enough to carve out her folds. He just took her and bashed her simp's brains out.It's always the same beta male freaks angling for disastrously fat birds via flattery. 25,000 years ago with flint and ivory, here on 4chan right now ITT with semi-ironic Brosnan posting, or 2am down to the wire at the club.
>>18756273Didn't read. Fatties ftw.
>>18756278You know I am right. You are a loser and you beg fat women for pussy, just like the carvers of these figurines.
Hell yeah.
>>18756273I love coming to the /his/ board and encountering someone whose understanding of anthropology hasn't evolved past a Hanna-Barbera cartoon they saw when they were 8.
>>18756273Chads always went for fat bitches.
>>18757052Anthropology is the study of human nature. We already inherently know the truth. Fat woman are ugly and disgusting, beta simps are simps for fat ugly women and find other strategies (like flattering artistry) to mate. That's human nature. We don't need a circle of fat women with uni degrees to gaslight us otherwise.
>>18757392lmao u r a fag
>>18757398You are proving my point; Brosnan chadded his way into her minge, then plumped her up so the rest of the village menfolk don't rape her. He wasn't some beta stuck in the village whittling branches and didn't have to carve gay little figurines for said female attention.
>>18757403That's not what happened at all, she got fat and he liked it.
>>18757403>>18757392>>18756273I bet you've never even had a rolljob. Fat women are the greatest thing on earth.
>>18754373Yes, Gravettians would have mogged Aryans even with a 25,000 year technological gap because they had enough food to create extremely obese women.
>>18754373They were so based.
>>18757629The whole reason Aryans won is because chariots let them have larger herds of cattle that grazed over larger areas. They were unfortunately massive homosexuals, which is why they deified men and their descendants (Indians, Russians, n*rdcvcks etc) love raping men in the butt or are sissy faggots. Danes have no Aryan dna which is why they are the best euros.
>>18754373>obviously a heavily pregnant middle aged woman>considered obese?????????????
>>18757986Danes are the most Aryan people on the planet and the brothers of their ancestors left German Corded Ware to create Indo-Aryan culture. The Aryans "won" before they invented the chariot. Their invasions were done by 21 year olds riding on horseback, with ox-pulled wagons, and stone axes. They won because they had a patriarchal warrior culture, not because of any given technology, except the horse. The gayest "Aryan" culture, the Greeks, were barely Aryan at all. This is evident in their vocabulary (Ancient Greek has tons of non-Indo-European words for very fundamental things like king, slave, brick, sword, etc.), their own history (lots of stories about invading Achaeans/Hellenes/Dorians defeating aboriginal Pelasgians/helots), their culture (Socrates, Herodotus, Alcibaides all obsessed with tracing their bloodline back to Hercules or whomever to prove the purity of their blood, no such tradition in more pure cultures like Nordic where there was no large aboriginal population) and their genes (Reich labs say Mycenaeans were at most 15% Indo European, probably not true of the chieftains like Agammemnon but probably true for average Greek)
>>18754373The cultures that disappeared upon Aryan invasion had exactly this kind of art. The Gravettians also didn't really disappear, WHG was related to Gravettians and they barely survived the invasion of ANF, who were in turn defeated by Aryans, so the power scaling heavily favors Aryan
>>18754373Heightmogged certainly on average. But it's much better to be any Holocene population in terms of quality of life. With Gravettians and ANE you have extremely long gestation and breast feeding periods, and most died young because they were so selected for mammoth hunting and rapid environmental manipulation. Indo-Europeans were selected for hunting, but also war, higher technology and they had less variants to combat schizophrenia, which led to higher intelligence.
>>18759404Interestingly Yamnaya had the highest selection for height ever recorded. I'm not sure why more hasn't been said about why this was the case, why were their women so obsessed with picking the tallest men? they were nomadic pastoralists, why would height in particular be so important rather than general strength or athleticism?
>>18759232>The Gravettians also didn't really disappearEntire regions of them went extinct. Most of Europe was under a sheet of ice. Italian Gravettians had it the worst. They just dwindled to extinction and had no means to escape as all resources collapsed on the peninsula, though some possibly contributed to Solutreans paternally based on the only samples sequenced so far.
>>18759425They were the most patriarchal and warlike people to walk the planet in all of recorded history and had access to dairy and high calories. Epigenetics + Culture + Environment + Diet/Lifestyle.God chose them to be the cleansing flame for degenerate agriculture cities. Also the people with the highest yamnaya ancestry are the strongest and biggest humans on the entire planet. Lookup what race has the highest amount of Olympic athletes per capita and compare it to places with 1 bil+ populations.
>>18759425You're overthinking this. If a homogeneous population goes through a bottleneck, their genes can stabilize on any feature by chance, including height.
>>18754373yeah
>>18754373Fat chicks stink, down there.
>>18759428I know I'm saying we can take WHG as proxy for Gravettians if we want to power scale them wrt Yamnaya
>>18759686Come back when you have something useful to say. Something other than "these things happen by chance". If you really believe that, why are you even interested in history? No need to study anything, it was all chance.
>>18754934>>18756337>>18757629Where the futa model?
>>18760865They plot closer than any mesolithic population but I don't think they're a very good proxy. Even groups from the WHG cluster like proper WHG and later EEF with significant WHG ancestry were very different in terms of selection, morphology, behavior, anything. Gravettians were extremely steppe adapted like IE, just in a pre-LGM context. You have to account for environment. They had extraordinary height but with more extreme sexual dimorphism than any population on record. WHG lacked this among most of their other defining attributes. WHG were very forest-adapted like all epigravettian populations. They were shorter, more neurotic but also had higher learning affinities than Gravettians. I would even go as far to say groups like Solutreans or Magdalenian (pre-Villabruna WHG) were better proxies for Gravettians because though aurignacian admixture and drift had moved where they would plot, they were still at least steppe adapted before the forests rapidly grew throughout Europe and Cheddar man came to town.
>>18756337>>18754934It's not my preference, but objectively speaking, fat women are the representation of peak femininity just like muscle men represent peak masculinity.Objectively they're what best symbolize the female and male forms.>>18754373>Would Gravettians have mogged Aryans even with a 25,000 year technological gap?No, the technological gap was simply too large.
There is no evidence that Gravettian women were obese and the figurines showing obesity are a minority of the total figurine corpus. The Gravettian matriarchal "venus" worship cult is a fraud just like the Vinca one was also a fraud. You have been duped by modern feminist interpretations and misrepresentations of a figurine corpus. You are a complete idiot.>>18761174>the gap was too largeNo it wasn't. Gravettians had standardised tooling and a distribution system and invented cereal processing and cartography independently and tens of thousands of years before the same technology appears with the Natufians. If 90% of all humans in Europe had not been killed in the catastrophe the Gravettians would have retained dominance and destroyed the EEF as they attempted to enter.
It's a shame that entrenched beliefs about hunter gatherers and dawn of agriculture have made the Gravettians and Mezzanine cultures so controversial. We still call these people hunter gatherers despite the fact they invented stone milling technology for use in agriculture, advanced textile technology that is still used to this day and the first recorded lunar notation if not the first ever numerical notation. Not to mention the multi ton structured buildings. And yet the average person thinks these were retarded obesity worshipping-grunting hunter gatherers.
>>18761580>retarded>obesity worshippingMutually exclusive, you have to have a very high IQ to properly enjoy obese women.
>>18761758So illiterate Africans are very high IQ.
>>18761818Show me one example of an illiterate African idolizing an obese woman.protip: you can'tFat fetish evolved in the frozen steppe which Africans have no connection to.
>>18762637It's fine to have a fat fetish as long as you can manage it responsibly. The Gravettians had a fat fetish because they liked healthy pregnant women, their men still became tall and strong and virile. The Anatolian farmers had a fat fetish because they were obsessed with fertility and growth and the earth and fertilizer and it took over their civilization like a brain parasite. Their men degenerated into 5 foot tall gracile neotenous vegans, they stopped venerating warriors and virile men, all they did was carve female figurines, the only male figurines are seated in a bent-over, mournful posture. They made massive technological leaps forward, building supercities and megaliths but were genocided by 21 year old steppe men carrying stone axes because their women refused to let them spend time developing swords or militarism or warrior culture, they were only allowed to work the farm.
>>18762662>fetish>before the modern eraStop projecting your own bullshit onto people from millennia before the Common Era.
>>18761544>Gravettians had standardised tooling and a distribution system and invented cereal processing and cartography independently and tens of thousands of years before the same technology appears with the NatufiansApparently ceramics too. They were the steppe lords of their time. It's interesting to compare them to Indo-Europeans.
It's funny how much autistic screeching fatfags cause. Meanwhile I'm just here enjoying looking at women's soft round bellies. Man, they're beautiful.Our ancestors were always right. Tiny hats just want us to like anorexic skeletons.
>>18754373Climate changed killed the mammoth, not Fats.Also it's sad how every board on 4chan is now just about gooning.
>>18754373Is Chinese culture a thing that is homogeneous enough were can be like OK this is the culture? where the ‘large’ fetish is from and is the culture? where the fetish for things that are large is from and has sources from
>>18764054hell yeah.
>>18763249Have a sense of humor for once you pathetic oldfag>Common Era*jewish pathetic oldfag
>>18764054Your ancestors disembowled and genocided the obese woman worshippers
>>18765294Source?
>>18765650they didn't tell you?
>>18756229But the Gravettians were actually very tall. 6ft on average. this isn't the arctic, this was europe.
If Grog liked this then so do I.
