Is this going to create technological innovation?
>>110205766>tax based on digital data flows emitted by content providers and paid by themDon't tell me this means what I think it means. They can not be THIS fucking retarded lmao
>>110205766Literally Minitel 2.0
I know nothing about french laws so what is this?
Pretty sure that VLC isn't a content provider.
I though UK was retarded but France are speedrunning the way to getting geoblocked by every usable software on the planet, it's impressive
>>110205832French politicians don't think so.
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>>110205766Whenever there are outcries about a law the first step is to look at the definitions and in which cases it is supposed to be applied.
>>110205788They said it will cost nothing to the consumer because Facebook and Instagram are free services https://x.com/GrablyR/status/2116203022837514720
France has disaster looming with their economy so they need to come up with tax sources that hurt but it doesnt matter since getting any money is crucial.The law is stupid on the double taxing, making services more expensive in france paid by end user ultimately, and digital surveillance infrastructure required to maintain it.
France is like the paradise for communists.
>>110205766>europe destroying itself speed run
> The entire text must survive the upcoming full-house budget votes, transition through the right-leaning Senate (which is expected to reject it)Nothing ever happens.
>>110205946>one more tax bro and our budget will be balanced bro trust me
>>110205832When you look at the wording of the passed proposal this isn't only about content providers and not even only about CDNs or big tech and VideoLAN 100% are included in this tax as it stands right now.On top of that this proposal sets a tax of 55€ per TB of traffic.Yes. Read that again, it's not a mistranslation. 55€ per TB of trafficFifty. Five. Euros. Per. Terabyte.
>>110206052If corporations own the government, does their spending count as government spending?
>>110205832>>110206067>>On top of that this proposal sets a tax of 55€ per TB of traffic.to be fair that's what a 1TB goes for now
>>110205788It will never pass the senat, the budget or the european union anywayIt's just socialists being retarded as usual
>>110206074In France no, here we pay like 30 euros for unlimited 10gpbs speedThere is litteraly no limit on your subscription
>>110205824It was passed in the lower house because almost no MP but those defending the bill have shown up. Hopefully the Senate which has a right-wing majority will nuke it.
>>110206148sounds like thats about to change
The guy who proposed the law>The customer won't pay the tax since facebook, instagram and tikok are freeA fucking socialist boomer who never worked a single day in his life and who coudln't say the difference between a gpu and a cpu want to restrict internet for us allReally, it should be illegal to become a lawmaker past a certain age
>>110206052Fucking kek!
>>110206148Don't forget to tip the fisc
>>110206182There was 31 elected lawmakers on...577 present in the houseOnly 21 voted, 11 for and 10 againstI LOVE OUR DEMOCRATY
>>110205946they could just stop wasting money on Ukraine. Or stop the gibs to illegals. Both viable methods to save billions and improve society.
>>110206219>This will ruin the internet!>Our poor tech overlords are barely scraping by!!!
>>110206247Both are a direct consequence of their retarded long term goals. Gibs for immigrants so they can displace the Europeans. Hush money filtered through Ukraine so those in the know keep silent.
>>110206254>penalize giants and tiny companies the same>this is protecting the giantsYes it actually is. They would gladly pay this to kill all smaller companies so they can gobble up more marketshare and further homogenize everything.
>>110206272Sounds like there's a good reason for smaller sites to optimize the data they share. Almost like there's some vector to capitalize on the slow movement and atrophied code of big tech...
>>110206302It's almost like governments just find any way to squeeze everything they can out of people because they are all ran by parasitic leeches who have never produced any value in their entire lives.
>>110206254>Host my own website and share roms>I will now be forced to pay hundreds if not thousands in tax every yearNetflix and co doesn't care, they will just rise the price and the goylems will pay it>Make my small indie game, hosted on my own website>Somehow can just download it over and over to kill me
>>110206302>bro just like outsmart physics and compress beyond the Shannon limit or something
>>110206247Those aren't France's problem area. Their problem is their own wellfare state.State-paid retirement and legal age of retirement as low as 55 for some occupations like fucking bus drivers, all brokered back in earlier times via workers unions pressing the government.
>>110206331>NOOOO DON'T PUT ANY LAWS ON CORPOS IT'LL RUIN NORMAL PEOPLE'S LIVES>>110206335>What is compression and download limits?Even better: Make it a hidden service so you can literally not know about if it's going to france. >>110206353>Bro big tech totally is super efficient with everything that's why every site is filled with js that's heavier than what a mid range pc from 10 years ago could handle
>>110206335>find some bloated PDF on the french government's website>write a script to mass download it continuously>bankrupt the entirety of France
>>110206372>TAX ALL CORPOS OUT OF EXISTENCE>about 60% of corpos have less than 5 people>YES THOSE TOO, FUCK WHITE PEOPLE!!!
>>110206399>NOOOO IF I PAY ANY TAX MY COMPANY'S GONNA FAIL
>>110206372>download limitsWhyWe had a good thing, cheap and unlimited sonwhy impose a tax to fuck with our life ?
>>110206432youre the kind of leftist retard that wants to tax people more just to give it to nigscum and kikes
>>110206432Yes, taxs shouldn't be over 15%, it's enough to make road and pay the police to shoot the retarded criminals
>>1102060741tb of premium eu/nl cdn bandwidth is like €5 anonand thats at consumer fuckery rates
>>110205766europe is cooked (russia is europe too)decaying continent with a bunch of boomer pensioners that require an increasingly unsustainable tax burden + looming war on the horizonshit's fucked, son
>>110206435>The internet is good as is>>110206439No, I want taxes to subsidize smaller businesses. Also this will reduce slop. >>110206442Feel free to move to any country where the taxes are that low. Please don't complain about some nigger stabbing you since he knows that the country you came from is much richer.
>>110206486>No, I want taxes to do *thing that will literally never happen*There's no incentive for the government to redistribute the taxes properly as advertised. That's just not how power functions. It doesn't matter how nice it'd be if it theoretically happened, it won't, and so the policy is stupid.
>>110205788it means epstein media fina start paying the state for the ads they serve you
>>110206632>No they'll just take the taxes and do nothing with it, despite there being an obvious, popular and easy choice that'll ensure both everyone loving that politician and the nation's greatness
>>110206148https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO7cD6qmydo
why are the french adopting the british "roll over and submit to your masters" technique
>>110205766Politicians are not clueless, they fully understand that this is yet another avenue to line their pockets with tax money that is framed in a way the general public will accept. They can just claim that greedy corporations have been using up all the gigabits without paying their fair share and it's time to start taxing them and normies will clap and cheer them on. On top of that, forcing small and non-profit software projects to pay amounts they can't possibly afford is exactly what they want to stomp out any technical sovereignty and freedom. Again, normies will clap and cheer because they think the internet is just youtube and tiktok and anything else is for hackers and pedophiles.
>>110205766This is just what happens when you let them debase your currency and fuck your country overIt's like when the british invented a Window Tax to cope with coin clipping and in response people just bricked up their windows to avoid paying
>>110205766The fucked up part is this might spread. They already tax me like 1 dollar for my shitty vps. I can't fathom if they start taxing me for my data flows. Hell some of these scam cloud faggots charge you some ridiculous egress as well.
>>110207791at least they didn't have to learn german
>>110206247tzd
>>110206262just get in the cube ivan
>>110206219Yeah just like the cunts who decided we should have some sort of €2 package tax that is going to be paid for by big companiesGuess who has to pay itlmao
>>110206478One time wealth tax of one life from everyone over 60 will fix everything
>>110206247Cutting both to 0 would not change shit.ITS BOOMERS like in every fucking country
>>110205766they'll tax anything but the billionaires. they'll tax money before they tax the wealthy
Datacaps are so 2004. An uncapped multi gigabit connection can transfer hundreds of terabytes per month.
>>110210215france already has high progressive taxes. they even have vat at 20%. any higher and people will just leave. it's a country in decline
>>110210420billionaires leaving is actually a good thing. I am not being ironic. a billionaire leaving is like when global capital leaves all at once. a hard hit to a fragile economy but a boon to the natives because global capital is always cancer. when one thinks globohomo he should be thinking global capital.billionaires actually have a harder time extricating their wealth because it isn't tied up in financial instruments as fluid as those that serve global capital, but even if it leaves it's a net benefit to the economy. the wealth distribution is what matters. a billionaire leaving causes local resources to serve the populace in a larger ratio. billionaires suck up all the transient resources and labor that chokes out the ordinary person by virtue of consuming all the goods and services in the room (by opportunity cost), and choking out productive capital (assets) for everyone else, killing the natives' class mobility (what actually starts riots)I hope me saying the word billionaire over and over again as a substitute for the hyper wealthy triggers you and others like you to no end.
>>110210446 (cont)to answer your question, france is in peril because the entire eurozone is in peril. they're just a bit more willing to rise up. and I bet that some french politician sided with palestine or something and was punished for it
>>110210446keep saying whatever outdated copenomics you want, it's not my declining country kek. fact is over 50% of france households pay 0 income tax at all, while the top 10% pay 75% of all income tax. france literally can't survive without that tax base
>>110205874The future rulers of France.
>>110205766This paired with the kids act makes me think whoever is cooking these up is working very hard to make the EU look retarded and commit financial suicide in the process
>>110205766It's limited to 15% of revenue and it's for COMMERCIAL traffic only so it doesn't affect normal people though there is some debate as to whether NPO would be affected.It also hasn't passed yet.I hop it does, digital services are basically theft anyway and most of them are from outside EU.
>>110206335You didn't read, it's not for non-commercial traffic.And if netflix keeps raising prices they WILL LOSE subscribers you dishonest moron.
>>110210782>it's only for commercialIt isn't, cite where it says so>15% cap on revenueThat's neat but NPO aren't exempt in the text, a priori they'll have to fight so donations don't count as revenue, and if they don't count, the tacit implication is that they'll go after the CDNs, etc that aren't NPO.>I hope it passesI hope too, they'll tax French universities and research centres for holding all those retarded open source mirrors.
>>110210467>outdated<woke progressive rhetoricand it's not even close to enough. it's not the act of taxation it's the outcome. billionaires did not end up with that money because they conjured it out of thin air. there is no correlation between value added and money made. money that went to them went to them at the expense of everything else, whatever the value they had provided.
>>110211464>there is no correlation between value added and money mademarx disagrees. maybe read more?
>>110211492marx's labor theory of value is braindead and fucking retarded in general. to be honest I kind of forgot why I think that it's in my notes I can't be fucked to dig it upz
>host a private wow server>get a 100k bill from the french government
>>110206664Except in Sweden, taxes really are being pocketed and nothing is done with them. Literally if you look at a random apefrican shithole, they have better roads than some of the most taxed western nations because the west doesn't even fund infra with their spend anymore, not enough money after the politicians pay themselves 7 figure salaries.
>>110211726Africa has better roads because China is funding the infrastructure buikdout to get their hands on the resources they need to keep being the manufacturer of the world.
>>110211756China does a build-for-control/territory deal, apefricans refuse to hand shit over so china abandons the project. Then apefrican break the infra to sell copper wires and shit like that. China never maintains what they lay out.
>>110205766more taxes to fund boomers' pensions and immigrants' gibs
>>110210782Retard, the average Netflix customer would see their subscription doubled or tripled. So even if what you said was true (it isn't) it's still a proposal as retarded as you.
