What's the point in making any software closed source when it can just be instantly re-written in Rust with AI?
Video game devs are asking this exact question now, and how you actually make a living at it going forward.Or if the slop grenades she keep falling until you're not buying the game, you're buying access to the hardware infrastructure that you MUST connect to in order to play the game.Maybe STADIA wasn't about getting poors access to higher end gaming components at the cost of latency. Maybe it was someone who saw the writing on the wall about closed source software becoming 3% of the market share it is now.
finally, software has become free.
>>110187918Okay show me Mac OS source code.
>>110187971But as in free beer, it still does not respect the user.
>>110187918>they added a minimap, something that intellij still doesn't fucking have natively
>>110187918Ludditsisters?!!
>>110187985>as in free beer>does not respect the userif you can make your own FOSS clone of anything at the press of a button, but have to use a paid AI model, it's actually the complete opposite.
>>110187985Meds. Most of them are MIT. It's free as in F R E E D O M (actual freedom), not free as in "I'm wearing a cock cage and I demand everybody do too" (as in communism or GPL).
I guess software developers will have to start being creative so that the plagiarism machines can't just copy them.
>>110187918>rustWhy do ai retards always shoehorn tranny shit into everything?
Has any moderately complex closed source program been reversed engineers where the company who produced it had a no AI policy?Can AI only reverse engineer what's in its training data, legally or illegally?
>>110187958>Video game devs are asking this exact question now, and how you actually make a living at it going forward.Video games are the safest from AI as there is a lot more to a game then the code and the functionality. The art, music, and "fun" are more important. The people who should be worried are all the sass webapps that never should have existed in the first place.
>>110188020and fuck do you do with slopped crabshit shovelware be it in any fucking license?
>>110188029Distaste for devs aside, if 60% of our R&D Atime and costs are going into obfustication at execution time, the real answer here is to move execution off thenenduser's machine. Obviously, if a video feed of the screen is enough to replicate the functionality, you're kind of boned, but for the rest, well...I guess it's good none of us will be able to afford a home pc anymore, right?
"instantly rewritten"It's accelerated not something any ai can 1 shot
>>110188069People are already yanking demos off of steam peior to a game release for smaller indie titles. Shit like Epden Ring may have a moat due to sheer volume of assets, but weirder indie shit in 2D is done. There is nothing outside AAA going forward, and they already love live service games.Maybe we can do shareware so people can supplement their main income stream at a grocery store.
>>110188086Obfuscation won't help if your company uses AI.
>>110188067Do you mean have people reverse engineered complex software without the use of LLMs? Of course but it took years. Harnesses can use tools like Ghidra to decompile software, usually the built in safety nets will stop Claude etc. from decompiling certain software unless you tard wrangle it. Or just give it to a Chinese model.
>>110188067I don't believe any of it. "clean room" my ass. people are uploading their propretary code via claude code which is exfiltrating entire codebases and then it's getting used as training data and then it's creating a mash-up of the source code intent with a different style. it's literally plagarism 101 just change it up a bit so it doesn't look like you copied.
>>110188086>if a video feed of the screen is enough to replicate the functionalityIt is. AI can describe a video and implement that based on observation. That's hose clean-room reverse engineering works. You just observe it and reproduce what you've observed into code. You don't even need to look at the binaries. Even a short video is more than enough to get the core functionality of any software.
>>110188106The people yanking demos probably don't have anything to worry about. They might even do it to help market the game as nextfest is flooded with AI slop. Nobody is going to buy an inferior knockoff of a good game. Asset flips and bad knockoffs existed before AI and they rarely made any impact.
>>110188123No I mean are LLMs only able to reverse engineer complex programs from companies who have used LLMs?That would imply the LLMs are trained on the data from those companies even when that's not supposed to happen and when asked to reverse engineer those programs the LLM already has a lossy copy of that code on it's weights.
>vibefag says they rewrote somethingYeah uh oh nope tranny your code is shit and it runs like shit because it was AI generated without you understanding any of it.
>>110188148>That would imply the LLMs are trained on the data from those companies even when that's not supposed to happennot supposed to happen? That's the entire business model. Input tokens are the only source of training data left.
>>110187984google bsd kernel
>>110188154>>110188160>>110188177Oh shiit you killed him!!
>>110188203Yes, but many private companies buy their services on the promise that it doesn't happen, I can only assume the AI psychosis most managers seems to have nowadays is why they don't see how unlikely the AI companies are to keep their promises.
>>110188016building anything non trivial in luddite ways requires huge investments and strong communities with top notch autists devoting their free time to the cause, paying a few bucks to devil to do the work you want is literally freedom
>>110187958Have lawyers on standby ready to file lawsuits
>>110188230Did they pinky promise and cross their heart? Didn't think so.
>>110188148If you have the binary on your system you can reverse it.
>>110188029career choices are rendered outdated all the time, there is no need for bread and water coders anymore, the ones who can orchestrate ai to make good shit will get their obese paychecks also in the future
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>>110188249Do you mean LLMs can do it quickly and moderately accurately into C/C++/Rust or do you mean I can technically do it with hexdump or whatever?
>>110188260orchestrating an ai is much easier than software engineeringso I don't know why you think you're going to get paid for it when they can have the ai do it
>>110188001These things are fucking pointless, space-wasting ricer shit.Everyone who uses one on their editor is a poser.
>>110188086nobody would bother to clone photoshop if the real photoshop would be good and affordable. Their answer to piracy has been to torture the paying customer, I have nothing but contempt for those shitty mba driven businesses.
>>110188086you don't have to obfuscate it, just come up with something original that it doesn't have source code examples of from the internet
>>110188106Epstein ring is a game I would actually buy if done well
>>110188154i'm rooting for blue guy, red >>110188177 is too commie for me
Listen.None of you fucks will vibe code or reverse engineer any games and you WILL buy my game. I already have people on social media showing interest.End of the discussion.
>>110188307I'll buy it and rate it favorably if it releases on Steam, but I don't play it
>>110188086>60% of our R&D Atime and costs are going into obfustication at execution timeWild idea: how about dedicating those into actually building a product people want to support instead?
>>110188327You are definitely not management material with they attitude
>>110188124nigga please, the algorithms of most programs are openly available. You speak like every major software is some cutting edge research while in reality nothing is farther from the truth. The architecture is not that hard to imagine, it does not be even identical, just a sane one.
>>110188345i mean adobe shit probably have some serious algorithms and probably even some researched stuff
>>110188154>>110188177
>>110188327what is this gay ass commie shit lol. THey will just move everything to cloud instead
>>110188266They already can do pretty amazing job at this and are getting better every day. Obfuscation is for humans. Chinks do not care about your patended intellectual property bits, they are just bits.
>>110188274it is not, you really can not orchestrate an ai properly if you are not an expert in software
>>110188276>dude just use 2.5mm scroll bar (that's not even on the right edge of the screen because they just had to put a fucking sidebar there)Humiliation ritual. VSCode got it right, IntelliJ is borderline unusable without the minimap extension. There's plenty of space for code. Windows 11 fucked up scrollbar designs but some programs where they're actually important like VSCode or FL Studio actually make them bigger because they understand it's necessary for good user experience.
>>110188424lol that's so far from the truthhow then are all these no-coders cloning video games and shit with just a few prompts?you are not special, you are already replaced by an LLM but you don't want to accept it yet
>>110187958Games include lots of copyrighted intellectual property. You could make a clone of a game's gameplay but you can't legally clone its art, models, textures, music, story, etc. which means you can't really clone a game.
>>110188274and I do not think I am getting paid for it, I have other sources of revenue like land ownership that work wonders in every economy. The suckers who wasted their obese paychecks are dun cooked up.
>>110187918saucehttps://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1xhvabq/super_lemon_text_a_cleanroom_sublime_text/
>>110188445>sources of revenue like land ownershiprent seeking is not a legitimate source of revenueyour land and natural resources will be assimilated and used for datacenters so that every single person in the world will finally have the available compute to individually clone photoshop for themselves in a clean room environment from scratch with one prompt
>>110188380And you are correct, but a photoshop clone without a few of their cutting edge tools iwould be still a pretty damn good and does the work just fine for 99.99 percent of people.
>>110188515This slop works fine for light use.https://getartcraft.com/apps/photocraft
>>110188484You ever heard about the concept of working the land? I do mostly forestry, it is hard but honest work, pays well if you own enough land. Not seeking rent from anybody, landlords are suckers.
>>110187958>Video game devs are asking this exact question nowThe videogame devs who ask that question are making flappy bird tier games. Making a 4 hour long videogame with a basic bitch gameplay loop and with stock assets for graphics and sound, wont gonna cut it in 2026 anyways in terms of profits. Now you are also gonna get AI'd. I guess indie devs need to step it up. And thats a good thing imo.
>>110188260I've never seen AI make anything good, especially on the frontend UI side. Most of my job involves writing code by hand to fix the janky frontend code that everyone else on the team shits out with AI. I will only use AI for writing simple functions and small scale refactoring because that's the only thing it can do that's actually useful.
>>110188528Gotta test that, probably does everything I need already since I do very basic stuff and dont even need photoshop tier editor...
>>110188614Game makers just gotta be a lot more creative. Shitting out yet another fps or rpg will not cut it in the future. Tetris was innovative, flappy bird was great, pong was the shit. Gaming is so much more than real life simulator escapism.
>>110188617Yup. AI cannot into actual aesthetics and usability. It is a tool, of course, but if no human is involved it produces shit.
>>110187918You need to spend hundreds of dollars on it and thats right now while the companies hosting these agents are all getting subsidised into orbit.Local models can't even kinda sorta do this, freetard registrations on LLMs can't do this. It has to be Claude which is currently expensive and will be getting moreso. (And also worse)
>>110188649>Gaming is so much more than real life simulator escapismIs that why all the games made by autistic lunatics with outward thinking ideas are all 6 figure fanbases at best and 99% of the market only cares about a shitty escapism simulator set in Florida?
>>110188528>The image editor you already know how to use.lmao no way a human actually wrote this
>>110188649The games that have been selling well recently have been friendslop games, and I expect this trend to continue for the foreseeable future. Friends will force other friends to get the "correct" game in fear getting ostracized. Network coding has become a lot easier now too, and you don't even need your own servers anymore thanks to Steam.
>>110188767>6 figure fanbasesIs that supposed to be a bad thing? Selling 100k copies of a $20 game is $2 million.
>>110188388"Hey Claude, just use my PC and take screenshots of this cloud app and remake it locally. No mistakes"
>>110187918Good newscertain hardcoded closed sources will never be free
>>110188556Well that's pretty based and redpilled then. Good on you and I'm sorry that the AI jews will steal your land with the government's help and put a big datacenter on it or just turn it into a solar power farm.
>>110188106In hindsight, I thought about someone ganking Welcome to Elderfield, and I realize I'm wrong. It just isn't going to work when 80% of the reason anyone buys it is to experience the mental illness in the art, music, and writing.
>>110187984https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/xnu
Link? I'm using an unregistered copy because I'm too lazy to patch it
>>110188448Is the Reddit janny right? Is linking a GitHub repo equivalent to a "code dump"?
>>110189920https://github.com/lemonator32/super-lemon-text/releases/tag/v0.1.0
Sigh. We had this debate with the industrial revolution and 'machines' replacing man.We had this debate with the paper press and 'book slop' replacing man.New technology isn't scary. Its just a tool, the bad uses get banned legally and chased by law enforcement. The good use cases get found and expanded upon. You're all basically crying that Roblox will kill the video game industry because any kid can make any game they want. Maybe people just want to pay for a Larian experience.
>>110189280That's kernel source code you fucking retard.
>>110188424hey sincerely, to the vibegod posters, why do you want to believe this is true, if you do believe it? surely this is a time when everyone wants to be bluepilled, right? like, no one is immune layoffs and a catastrophic change in the meaning if labor. what future do you envision and is it any good?
>>110187918Businesses and organizations need someone they can hold accountable for their decisions. Imagine every bank, firm, etc that is hiring consultants for software-related tasks right now. Do you think any of them are going to stop and start to ask prompting internally?Who will be held accountable if something breaks? Who do you call at 5 pm when the dashboard turns red? Who can translate your wants to software? Behind "claude build me $APP" there's 100 questions that need to be answered, and non-programmers don't know them and won't reasearch them.The price of the labor will drop because it's easier to produce, but it will still exist.
>>110190103Good luck doing stuff with frigging good tools if you do not understand even the basics. I was not saying that good coders are safe, I was saying that good software engineers who can into ai are pretty safe for now. But even they would be wise to cut frivolous spending habits and save the monies because big bucks for software is not going to last.
>>110187918What's the point of these threads when I will literally never ever download and install any of your garbage?
>>110187958>claude, recreate cyberpunk 2077 from scratch>make no mistakesif you can do it in five years, then you will be sued to oblivionif you can do it anonymously in ten years, then nobody will carestudios have more resources than you, incl. tokensstudios will always be slightly ahead until people don't care about vidya anymore
>>110188029Who the hell is ever going to use the plagiarized crap in the first place? How are people going to even know that some poojeet slopped a plagiarized version? This garbage >>110189971 has literally zero engagement. Is the plan for you drones to keep spamming threads on 4chan or reddit when you so happen to come across something like this on Twitter so people even know that the plagiarized trash even exists?
>>110188424your orchestration workflows are being fed right now to the next modelsit's a nonsensical race, you're already obsolete
>>110190502>"""""inspired"""""
>>110187918SublimeText is free though. It'd be more useful to target paywalled options.
>>110188871>you don't even need your own servers anymore thanks to Steam.You never needed your own servers.
>>110190502>Who the hell is ever going to use the plagiarized crap in the first place?Me.>How are people going to even know that some poojeet slopped a plagiarized version? From me.>Is the plan for you drones to keep spamming threads on 4chan or reddit when you so happen to come across something like this on Twitter so people even know that the plagiarized trash even exists?Yes.
>>110191144based
What's the point of making another text editor when AI will write all the code now?Does anyone use any text editors still? I'm only using vocal dictation to make my grocery list and use Claude for everything else. No need to write anymore.t. wrote this post with openwhispr
>>110188649fps rpg are the best games though. I don't want creative faggy games. I want RPGs where I shoot people over and over again and I'm not kidding. This is what the market wants too, it's the 80/20 rule. 80% familiar 20% twist. Fully "creative" or "unique" games don't do well the great majority of the time. I thought we'd have finally moved on from the 2010s indie "game design is my passion!" bullshit games already.
>>110187958>make a livingWhat a Jewish concept
>>110188528All their apps are about 40-60% feature complete right now. There is a lot of broken shit.
>>110188154>>110188177>>110188386https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h9XMyeKwjg
Do sublime merge next.
>>110187918>clean-room>vibe code>whimsywhere are these newfag terms coming fromthis shit wasn't popular 3 years ago
>"clean-room">interacts with product (and openly declares intent to plagiarize)>feeds specification into an LLM, the output of which they're responsible for>???>all my plausible deniability gonecome on, man, any current model can explain the term.>posted an em-dash meme to r/antiai a month agohm.>>110191663the clean-room design method/legal defense has been a thing since at least the 80's, when IBM would sue people for copyright infringement over their BIOS firmware. i've known about it for decades and i think it's neat (plogue inc does their excellent digital reimplementations of old audio hardware this way) but practically anyone claiming that they used an LLM to "clean-room" something with no other legal person involved is an utter fooli hate the semantic erosion this grifter shit causes. let me out
>>110187918>""clean room""the second you involve an llm, it is no longer clean because you have absolutely no idea what's in the dataset
>>110188020>MITA cuck license. >comparing GPL and communismHello corpo nigger faggot! How much are you being paid today?
>>110192310>not cleanwhat evidence do you have to accuse either the vibe coding distributor or LLM provider of stolen code?sounds clean until proven guilty to me unless you want to accuse the LLM providers of ingesting every piece of bytecode from every app known to man and correctly identifying the human code that produced it without transforming it one iota even to avoid accusations of impropriety. The only reason the frontiersmen decide to gate this decompilation game stuff is to avoid being the first court case that demands proof of clean room, no one wants to be first to open their books legally, obviously they'd be dumb and inefficient to use the untransformed raw dregs of proprietary learnings in their current LLMs.
>>110188515>but a photoshop clone without a few of their cutting edge toolsgimp
>>110187984>Okay show me Mac OS source code.
>>110187958Did a youtuber tell you that?
>Everything is open source nowReverse engineer this then.
>>110192552okay but what about gimp but it can draw a circle
>>110187958well if cuck coders can make AAA video game now, then these big rich studios should be able to afford way bigger AI and create even better AAA games, with way more content than your typical AI slop generator can do, thats the only waythese studios need to release games 100x better than now to cope, with more content, more world, more gameplay, more everything
>>110187918>>110191661What can they do what LazyVim + LazyGit can't
>>110188907>20 dollarsThat better be a top notch indie game. It's gonna be more like 5 for most, totalling half a million gross revenue which is also good.
>>110187918Just use CudaText. No need to invent something new when you have +1000000 hand crafted alternatives with better quality.>https://cudatext.github.io
>>110193166They're both git wrappers.The benefit is the GUI, particularly for merge conflicts. Where the actual rendering matters since its a visual process.The terminal wrappers can only do so much with grid based cells.Intellij looks the best for this imo, but sublime merge is a standalone tool that's good enough for my needs without looking too ugly.I need to re-evaluate Meld since its been updated a lot since my last try.
>>110187985>it still does not respect the user.No serious person cares about this anymore.
>>110188016>have to use a paid AI modelmy work pays for unlimited usage of top-tier models and got the ai companies to agree to a contract that says nothing we generate can be used for training :)
>>110188154>>110188177red won
>>110187918I'll bitejust like most (good, legal, honest) uses of generative ai art could be replaced with stock photos or royalty free music or whatever, most uses of ai code could be replaced with existing libraries, frameworks, or softwarecongrats, you made a text editor. add it to the pile
>>110194303and thats what makes you goycattle
>>110194349just admit you lost
>>110193460>I need to re-evaluate Meld since its been updated a lot since my last try.Meld is the GIMP in its niche. Its amazing how it remains so poorly crafted in most every way. What an astoundingly shitty UI it has.
>>110194313>the amoral cartoonishly evil zionists claim they're not going to digest all the data we feed themAre you fucking serious? Really? hahaha!
>>110187918I would argue making open source software is even better because you can at least claim copyright strikes if someone copies it. If its closed source they can just claim its clean room reverse engineering and fuck you lol
>>110194410right after you admit you also lost
>>110189028Confirmed examples?
>>110188124I could go either way on it. Personally leaning that it's real but will gladly laugh if proven wrong.
>>110188131>AI can describe a video and implement that based on observation.>Take AI>Make it watch video of someone using openSSL competantly>Ask it to replicate the software>It chooses commiting suicide instead
>>110194749That's how I felt too, but I think the last time I tried was V2. I'm wondering if they ammended any of that in V3.Since you're quoting that part of my post, I imagine that's still the case / it's still not as good as it reasonably should be. If so, that's unfortunate.I wonder if it's possible to do reverse engineering effectively without spending money.I'd be willing to do it if I had money to spend on Claude, but I can't justify spending money on a project that would intend to be open source and free.If it's possible, I'd probably put the time into taking the best features from Merge and Itellij. I'll have to look into this eventually if nobody else does it first.
>>11019164950% already is pretty fucking good, even if half of that 50% is somehow still broken. Adobe is literally dead if true.
>>110191607No offense but you just have no soul, simple as.
>>110188614This.Has anyone here actually looked at the garbage that’s being AI-cloned? It’s pure shovelware slop.
>>110191855clean room is very simple concept, if you did not look at the source code or binaries it is clean room. You literally can not clean room shit if you do not observe the behaviour of software you gonna clean room. Seems like you know absolutely nothing about developing software.
>>110192552I have used gimp, it is just fine. Granted I only do stuff like cropping and some minor color corrections etc. But for some reason lot of people do not like it, most of the dislike is just bandwagoning.
>>110193165AAAA games incoming, in a few years we will have AAAAA games (and I will still be playing snake on my old nokia phone)
>>110187985Free beer comes in cheap dirty cups next to smelly plebs.I prefer a 5* Michelin restaurant and drinking the finest Krug.
>>110188133Those knockoffs are free.
>>110187958i think you're right about that but still, i don't think activision would be pleased if the new cod gets a decompilation and native linux port and a sex mod within 2 days of release
>>110187918Better question, whats the point of publishing source code when you can rely on strangers with LLMs to do that work for you?
>>110188614>>110188649This was the gayest 3hr walking simulator with no damage and shitty puzzles and it sold, it even got my pirating friend to get it. I bet shovelware isn't over
>>110187918>What's the point in making any software closed sourceit's funny that nobody expected that an AI can't reverse engineer anything, it's literally a map from input to an output
>>110187918I'm considering releasing my image and video tagging software. But it feels too powerful to give to out.It could blow up in my face and be used to dox people including myselfI guess its just a matter of time before other people have similar, or better doxing capabilities... But a lot of chudanons here don't have the Will to code this, let alone vibe code it... There's so much more gangstalking to be added. This doesn't even use embeddings - 4plebs' image search is quite goodI really don't need to use google/ddg images anymore. They only return politically correct results for the most part anyways. Try searching for "reminder: this is what america does.." meme. You won't find it.
>>110196505>anon this is just tag search and could be recreated in a day with opus 5.5maybe, but I think it would take longer than that. I have other features not shown here and I've spend a significant optimizing.Am I just an old unc now?
>>110194766how are you gonna prove they cloned your work?
>>110187918rust again? its spreading like GRIDs
>>110196143You are probably not familiar with the behind the scenes stuff about this game. This is another astroturfed videogame by Annapurna Interactive, aka the Mixtape publishers. People gave it a pass because you are controlling a heckin reddit cat, and because there are lots of cat people out there who would probably want to play this (((indie))) shit. So nobody bothered to connect the dots then.Annapurna is being funded by Megan Ellison, the daughter of billionaire and Oracle CEO Larry Ellison. Draw your own conclusions
>>110196505Is it written in rust? If not, then no thanks.
>>110198365my anaconda (python, penis) dont want none if youve got no rust buns (slopped from zig), hun
>>110198261Annapuma is a shotgun of stuff, but some of them hit. Journey, Kentucky Route Zero, Ashen, and Outer Wilds. Their so fucking oddball I don't know why anyone would risk on them, because they're like 1/4 for their catalog.
>>110198425my anaconda DONTmy anaconda DONTmy anaconda DONTmy anaconda DONTmy anaconda DONTmy anaconda DONT
>>110187918>What's the point in making any software closed source when it can just be instantly re-written in Rust with AI?That's just the excuse that Big Tech wanted to move literally everything to the cloud. That alongside the overpriced hardware and fast 6G networks. We're witnessing the death of home computing.Give it another 10 years (or less) and all you'll be able to purchase will be a tinyass streaming cloud computing always online cuckbox. If you're lucky you'll be able to install a custom firmware and play SNES games on it, assuming they don't straight up use a hardcoded custom streaming chip instead of a general purpose ARM SoC.
>>110187918has it been done? can you name a single product I can use, today?
>>110188106And most of those finished games from demos are inferior to the real thing. Also assuming something is going to get done with decompiling so far the only devs who should worry are those that make simple mobile game-type games like making a Tetris but it’s rougelike with bosses and somehow snake gameplay put into it and it works, those kinds of games can be copied by just showing the gameplay to AI.
>>110188154>>110188177Understanding things is for Luddite snailcats. You are like a strong lumberjack flexing his muscles while fat chud arrives with his bulldozer, except instead of muscles it’s your autistic diligence and IQ. You lost.
>>110189971>3 starsberry popular. still cool nglthe issue with rewrites and decomps is that they'll have no future support. initial company will keep adding features but the rewrites are made by some rando in a weekend who'll move on with their lives, or die or whatever.
>>110187918>i dont care if you used claude for the code, but PLEASE dont use it for the writeup/post. im never ever going to read something that I can tell is claudeslop just from the bullet points.>No human cares about "milestones m0-m8", nor that theres "110 tasks". You're clearly not putting any effort towards this if you cant even write up a reddit postrare based reddit take
>>110198365its written in python (C)
>>110198261I remember hearing a lot of BTS on it. Thanks for telling me about the Jewish connection. Makes sense about mixtape since they're more movies as a game concept. I heard they make Edith Finch too. None of them are games, they're for Redditors who don't want to die in any game and say they finished a bunch of pop culture slop. >>110198473Isn't journey another walking simulator? I didn't hear about the other stuff but I'm pretty sure they don't make any 'games' besides maybe outer wilds but idk how you die in it and I wasn't interested. They had a lot of press for sure though. I heard about it even tho I didn't want to play it.
>>110199033>Isn't journey another walking simulatorI cannot tell you how much that made my blood pressure spike reading that. But to your question, no, it's a game about sand, and how difficult it is to get out of carpets.
>>110192391so you're saying that it has nothing to do with communism even though its called copyleft as in leftism
>>110199749>COPYLEFT ALL WRONGS RESERVEDMiddle finger to Bill Gates bitching about piracy. It's going to blow your mind, but Left of Bang isn't about Marxism either.
>>110188154>>110188177>>110188386best thing i've seen on 4cuck in months
>>110187918Most of the software is not feature complete and is basically just a vertical slice of working software. There are a bunch of oss text editors and notebooks although most of them started before the LLMs really took off. Notion/obsidian/evernote clones. Most notably, there are no really good onenote clones yet. Also, a bunch of B2B software like shit you would see in restaurants/factories/small retail businesses/gyms no one is talking about cloning.
>>110196102Sometimes you only want to wait so long until some other faggot creates some niche code that you've been waiting for for a long time.Creating the project means it's guaranteed to be created. You could be waiting until you're dead for some Llm faggot to come along.
>>110195360i did not say observation isn't allowed in clean-rooming, only that observing while also being legally responsible for the implementation is not clean-rooming.in this case and many other projects, the separation of responsibilities that defines the term is absent; the way "clean-room" refers specifically to that separation of observer from implementer is what i mean to criticize vibecoders for not caring to understand. hope you have a nice day>>110198473journey released on playstation 3 over seven years before annapurna picked it up to manage the PC release.
>>110188649>>110198261All you need to sell a game is good graphics/atmosphere. It doesnt even matter what the gameplay is. Obviously not, because the only thing people see pre-release is the graphics, which is what makes hype.AI still hasn't gotten good at making good 3d graphics yet.
>>110200099Roblox, minecraft and indie shit look like visual pixel vomit
>>110199894That is not how things work in real life. If there is no code or binary shit from the original it is by definition clean room. By your standards it would be impossible to clean room anything popular like word since everyone has used those programs. Yet libreoffice and now wordcraft exist.
>>110198473Yeah, despite them being a trust fund outlet, you are correct. I played journey on ps4 and it was decent enough for one playthrough. The problem with annapurna publisher is that they always pay to get glowing reviews for their okayish arty farty games. Actual gamers (not moviegame snoys) couldnt understand why a game with a cat was receiving so many 10/10s and awards. Eventually everyone figured out what was going on with Mixtape, (a nostalgiabait virtual novel but with actual real time 3d graphics) because once again it was getting extremely good reviews but has almost no gameplay.
>>110199658It's a walking simulator. >Journey is basically a two-hour walking simulator where you play a traveler whose goal is to reach a mountain. It is a short, linear, level-based experience designed to be finished in a single sitting. It abandons traditional inventory, stats, and side quests in favor of pure atmosphere and pacingSounds like a skill free movie disguised as a game that critics praise.
>>110200569It's because it's a movie disguised as a game for women or women adjacent critics that give you lower scores as they lose their hp. If you only play a game once it's got nothing going on besides story/exposition.
