>OH N-
Well how does that work? Why stay in business if you can never actually operate in the black?
>>110180582it's all about scamming the goys. just a little passtime that the Chosen people like.
>>110180582investors don't care about profitability only hype. in 2026, hype is how you get stock price high not profits.
>>110180607>in 2026fukken newton was already saying that the market is irrationalthis is nothing new.
>>110180582It's too late. It's like a ponzi, you run it until everything crumbles.It's money redistribution among shareholders.
2… more… weeks bros… it’s bursting… t-trust
>>110180582The free market was never real
>>110180634free market is a retarded concept used by globalists to make a nation relinquish control over its economyfree market when pushed to its extremes means market manipulation, and monopolieswhich means control of the marketthe market CANNOT be "free"
>>110180582You can get skullfucked if you fail to disclose risks and liabilities in your S1.
Just get the AI to vibe code some money.
>>110180582theyre hoping for a buyout or a bailout
>>110180582This has been the norm for start ups for decades now. The bigger question is, can they not be sued by stock holders?
Corporate finance is too complicated for mortals. You hear "we'll never be profitable" and think "well, fuck that business, they're just a money sink, I can invest elsewhere" but, no, that's not the whole picture. A business that keeps failing upwards is actually viable as long as there's some kind of investment hook to keep new money flowing in, despite that money never actually manifesting in any positive impact.
>>110180568The first ai company to IPO will cause the rugpull
>>110180849>it’s just a Ponzi scheme, goy! What’s the problem? You are clearly too dumb to understand why this is actually a good thing!
>>110180849Charles Ponzi was in fact mortal and he died a long time ago.
>>110180622He also was a retard that made massive losses on the tulip mania
>>110180582you don't have to be profitable, you just need to grow enough to keep paying back most of your debt and borrow more to pay the rest. rinse and repeat until you can't anymore.
they will get profit when they got involve in amerimutt mic.
>>110180568I think in US tech, as long as companies think you are the next big thing and/or you have the power to form the cultural consensus and sway elections you have the mandate of heaven - you can do no wrong and money is free.(non-AI) tech seems to have lost this status, and people have suddenly started asking why are we building this overcomplicated shit that's also dog slow, when we figured out how to do this well 20 years ago.This has affected (AAA) video games as well - they combine oldtech, with decreasing social relevance due to the dogshit habit of leftists to let the absolute worst kind of people rise to the top and dictate from there.It's also why Zuck and social media in general will always be on the top.AI still has both, though oddly despite it being the most generally useful thing to come out of SV in recent decades, I think it's cultural power is waning, as nobody likes AI slop, and general hostility and contempt is increasing on all levels of society. AI has somehow also proved itself to disadvantage 'respectable' parts of society, which has been eternally pro-progress.
>>110181456pain is the best of teachersiirc he also tried to rationalizeor maybe he tried to rationalize the market through maths bc he got burned hardhe said that, thoughand being a notable person everyone who deems themselves intellectuals, should know thatits fukken newton after allbut hilariously enough, everyone gets burned and then they re formulate that principle it seemsrite of passage/penance for hubrislamao
>>110180568That is an incredible track record for losses.
>>110180828No—because they're gunning to be a public benefit corporation. Between that—and their upcoming bid to be the national regulators for SI—they will have zero accountability to anyone—including shareholders.
>>110180568ACKtropic
>>110180568Guess what happens when Anthropic runs out of money and can no longer pay their data center bills to SpaceX :-)
>>110181681inflation as usual? the losses are already paid for. government selected companies cannot fail
>>110180582Exit liquidity nigga. All this shit is a con job.
isn't that just some legal shit they gotta say for their ipo?
>>110180849>corporate finance>look inside>babby's first ponzi schemeWoow.
>>110180582Cause you just need to convince someone with an infinite money gun to pay off your old debt with new loans.
>>110180849>Corporate finance is too complicated for mortals. yeah because econ and finance 101 have almost no relevancy IRL where guys like pic rel can telepathically move billions around into random companies
>I can kill you and you will consent
>>110180648A free market is a market that the government interferes with as little as possible. A monopoly is by definition protected by the government. You're very stupid.
>>110181695Wouldn't it be deflation? It would be a chain reaction causing all of these companies to collapse in value and firesale their equipment
>>110180835>saving images of your online boyfriendGross.
>>110182356>A free market is a marketwe certainly live in a society.
>>110182839
>>110180582profitability was never the target, the target is making the goys slaves to a brainwashed data driven egregore
>>110182615Not when you're printing money to offset the cost of bailout.
>>110180568no one could have expected !
>>110180568vibegods sisters... our response??
>>110184103This is standard S1-speak for an IPO. Uber had basically the exact same phrasing in their S1 as well. But thanks for letting everyone know you’re financially illiterate
>>110184118C O P EOPE
>>110184130Tesla (2010)> “We have a history of losses and we expect significant increases in our costs and expenses to result in continuing losses for at least the foreseeable future.” IPO: ‘S-1/A’ on 3/26/10https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312510017054/ds1.htmLyft (2019)>”We have a history of net losses and we may not be able to achieve or maintain profitability in the future.”https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1759509/000119312519059849/d633517ds1.htmAirbnb (2020)>“We have a history of net losses and may not achieve or maintain profitability in the future.” https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1559720/000119312520294801/d81668ds1.htmSnowflake (2020)>”We have a history of operating losses and may not achieve or sustain profitability in the future.” https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1640147/000162828020013010/snowflakes-1.htmPalantir (2020)>“We have a history of net losses and may not be able to achieve or maintain profitability in the future.”https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1321655/000119312520230013/d904406ds1.htm
>>110184165where da l at>>110180568revenue increased something like 14x in 1 year while costs only went up 5x. Ramp to profitability is there. IPO is still way overvalued still but its all priced in I guess
>>110184165>We have incurred net losses in each year since our funding , including a net loss of $1.5 billion, $8.3 billion, and $42.0 billion for the years ended December 31, 2023, 2024 and 2025, respectively, and $80.7 billion for the six months ended June 30, 2026Tic toc vibesissy. Better start learning pointers again.
that's just legal speak for the IPO. Anthropic is already profitable.
>>110184118This. The law requires companies to go through what amounts to a standardized risk factor analysis and to convey to potential investors these risk factors.
>>110184198No, they are not profitable.
>>110184182>>110184198>Revenue increased in 14x while cost went up 5x>Anthropic is already profitable.>Literally says $80 billion net loss in 6 months by anthropic itselfCultists or bots? Your call
>>110184165cry jeet
>>110180568how do you get out of an 80 trillion dollar ponzi scheme without crashing the entire economy or going into a decade(s) long depression?
>>110184209Damn, 80 billion in losses. This company will totally fail. You should totally short ANT as soon as they IPO. Oh wait, you’re a broke pussy bitch who won’t do shit because deep down you know you’re just another dumb worthless goy
>>110184182>revenue increased something like 14x in 1 year while costs only went up 5x. Ramp to profitability is theretheyre permanently undercut by open source chinese models and glm is better than claude
>>110184209>>110184207yes they are. 50% margin for the last quarter. even after deducing the stock compensations they still have a positive cash flow.>$80 billion that's virtual. because of convertible notes, you may owe 10_000_000 shares valued at $100 per share (total $1 billion). six month later, a share is now valued at $720 dollars, making the total value of these notes at $72 billions. the "loss" is $71 billions but it's virtual, it's not cash, the amount of shares is still the same.
>guise if we don't count the losses they are profitablegenius
>>110184256AI psychosis at its finest
>>110184259they're insane goycattle.
>>1101842568 0 . 0 0 0 . 0 0 0 . 0 0 0D O L L A R S-> N E T <-L O S S6M O N T H S
>>110184321
>>110184327don't look!then it's profitable
>>110184327Poor anthropic the only company that is in 300 billion dollar debt and in a constant net loss since its founding because of le evil financial market! This information is totally real btw.
>>110184345>300 billion dollar debtnot true. they have $112 billions in cash and $19 billions in short-term investments.
>>110184352And $1.5+8.3+42+80 billions in net losses so far.Have you prayed to you local Claude Church yet?
>>110184352insane cult
Whatever, keep providing free services, when they crash there will be lots of hbm memory to go around, all the compute they've been hoarding to make renters out of the public
>>110184398datacenters will get nationalized, whatever's left will get buried in a landfillyou'll get nothing
>>110184398anthropic is mostly renting its compute power. their capex was like $5 billions (while google, amazon, meta all above 100 billions each).
>>110180582You just hand your debt to the next sucker below you on the pyramid.
>swap shares for compute>noooo you cant count that as an expense
>>110184406Who will bury it, jeets, lol no one is going to just discard it
>>110184398>I need computer for my heckin video games!grow up
>>110180568that's a standard disclaimer found in almost every ipo prospectus of growth stock due tohttps://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/17/229.105>17 CFR § 229.105 - (Item 105) Risk factors.>§ 229.105 (Item 105) Risk factors.>(a) Where appropriate, provide under the caption “Risk Factors” a discussion of the material factors that make an investment in the registrant or offering speculative or risky. [...]>[...]
>>110184500>We have incurred net losses in each year since our funding , including a net loss of $1.5 billion, $8.3 billion, and $42.0 billion for the years ended December 31, 2023, 2024 and 2025, respectively, and $80.7 billion for the six months ended June 30, 2026Is this also standard?No. Cope.
>>110181742yes but don't forget you're on a board full of jeets that have no understanding of the financial system and US laws
>>110180582easy, you will pay for it either with your taxes or with printed money and inflation every time you go buy milk
>>110184517>The law forces you to lie and say you are in a constant net loss of billions since your founding
>I'm 80 billions in debt but I have a quarter in my pocket I'm not in debt
>>110184531please do a needful sir, i'm sure every company is at risk of being billions in debt and never making a profit ever.
>>110184513yes, it's standardhttps://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm>We incurred net losses of $(4,937) million and $(4,628) million for the years ended December 31, 2025 and 2023, respectively, and a net loss of $(4,276) million for the three months ended March 31, 2026. We may not achieve or, if achieved, sustain profitability in the future. As of March 31, 2026, we had an accumulated deficit of $41,311 million.
Faceberg didnt turn a profit until the NSA started paying them
>>110184555Same for 4chan. The money is in the surveillance contracts
>>110184542>spacex as examplewhat level of bait are we at?
>>11018454280.000.000.000 (6 months)00.041.000.000 (total)See the difference?
I don't want to bail out AI companies where should I put my money to avoid this, gold?
>>110184578esl plz., isn't a decimal separator in english.
>>110184587They sill just confiscate your gold bro. Roosevelt did it. You will own nothing. You will consume the AI sloppa. You will eat ze bugs. You will not have sex. You will pay
>>110184612can they still do it if i hide gold in my anus?
>>110184574spacex turned profitable last quarter. that prospectus's disclaimer was just a formality.https://s21.q4cdn.com/184289198/files/content_files/SpaceX-Reports-Third-Quarter-2026-Results.pdf>SpaceX (Nasdaq: SPCX) announced the following financial results for the quarter ended September 30, 2026, as compared to the prior year quarter:>Revenues of $14.6 billion, up 161% from $5.6 billion>Net income of $4.4 billion, an improvement of $5.5 billion from net loss of $1.1 billion>[...]
>>110184632>>110184638>exactly 1 minute apartrapeape stop using bots.
jeets, chinks, and codetrannies would all love to see American AI labs fail. That explains the bizarre cope in this thread ignoring very simple explanations for what’s going on here
>>110184662Jeets are the only ones who like AI, and they use a mix of claude and grok mostly. They're the ones who don't want amerilard labs to fail, but you already know that ranjesh.
>>110184714>amerilardThere it is.
>>110184740>USA, India and China are the only countries in the world
>>110184761>indians are the only ones who use AIsee how retarded you sound dumbass. Either way you’re seething because the greatest tech revolution is happening in the U.S. and not your irrelevant shithole country
>>110184799I'm not the guy>the greatest tech revolution is happening in the U.S.How many net losses again? Read OP pic for more.
So where profit
Still buying the IPO. I got 50K USD ready. Your loss for not investing in the next Nvidia.
Could there ever be a single international LLM organization with the express intention to lose money, that can't be used for military applications and that can't be sued for copyright?
I am Indian and employed by Microsoft. The very few Karens and Timmies left on this campus have walled around with a look of trepidation for nearly two years. Now, as a token of good will to them, the CEO is offering buyouts and early retirement to get the last few remaining white pigs out. How does it feel to he so easily defeated and replaced, white boy?
>>110184908no one believes an indian online lol
>>110184882Every IPO goes up for a day then dumps in the next 2 weeks before normalizing. Have fun holding bags.
>>110180648Outside of natural monopolies(roads, transmission towers, water supply, etc), monopolies generally need government support/regulation in order to function. This is especially easy in USA where corruption is literally legal and company can just pay government to ban competition.In normal free market things like that do not work.
>>110180568Didn't they say they were profitable in Q2 and Q3 of this year? Or was that just bullshit to please investors
>>110184956imagine being so retarded you actually believe this lmao
>>110184919Hows the jobs search? Your pride will not stop me from buying a second home in Tennesse or Arkansas Ozarks.
>>110184959They actually said they "expect to be profitable" not that they were. Then they said "if we ignore our costs, we are profitable".
>>110184959>>110184974their adjusted net income was profitablethey adjusted it by removing most of their expenses
>>110184965NTABut it’s called rent-seeking. Its why there isnt a single hit of difference between political parties in America.What university did you attend where you failed to learn about government and ethics? Did you even attend a university?>Rent-seeking is the act of growing one's existing wealth by manipulating public policy or economic conditions without creating new wealth. Rent-seeking activities have negative effects on the rest of society. They lead to reduced economic efficiency due to misallocation of resources, stifled competition, lower wealth creation, a loss of government revenue, increased income inequality, increased debt levels, the risk of increased corruption and cronyism, the decline in public trust in institutions, and potential socioeconomic and institutional decline.
>>110184965It is true.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying_in_the_United_StatesAnd it doesn't even ends at companies. A foreign countries can lobby USA politicians to get what they want. What do you think AIPAC is?
>>110180568In Q2 2026, Anthropic's revenue was $11.56 billion. In Q2 last year, it was $787 million. That's almost 15x growth. Over that same period, the computing and infrastructure bill rose from $1.39 billion to $5.56 billion. That's growth of 4x. AI revenue is gaining on compute costs.
>>110185013>Don't look at the expenses and there's profit"We have incurred net losses in each year since our funding , including a net loss of $1.5 billion, $8.3 billion, and $42.0 billion for the years ended December 31, 2023, 2024 and 2025, respectively, and $80.7 billion for the six months ended June 30, 2026"
>>110184965everyone can buy your country, just like everyone can be American
>if we don' talk about our losses we're profitable
>>110185013their revenue isn't their true revenuewhat they do is>microsoft sells subscription for $20, which includes access to both openai and anthropic models>pays anthropic $5 and openai $5>anthropic puts down $20 as revenue and $15 as marketing costsit's completely made up bullshit
>>110180582They have an exceptional amount of debt they need you to pay for, okay?
>>110184994Did you know that the sky is blue? Also ice is slippery. Therefore you're wrong that oranges are red.
>>110185085Yes, because monopolies can only be broken by government support/restrictions, thus allowing anyone to buy a country.
>>110180568anthropic is an unprofitable jew scam but every SEC filer is required to more or less say as much because it's the law.t. CPA
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>>110184411>create or find a literally who company>sign a 20 year contract to rent GPUs from that company>company takes on debt to buy overpriced GPUs and shows rent contract as a sign of positive cash flow>anthropic IPO neither shows this shadow debt nor the absurdly long rent contractHigh level kabbalah magic
>>110180582>Well how does that work? Why stay in business if you can never actually operate in the black?They are subsidized by the US government, and therefore American taxpayers, because jews bullied orange man into believing that we need to beat China at AI/SI as a matter of national security
I'd be more concerned if they were making profit than if they were not. Producing something of value takes resources to generate the product, not generate money. If their goal is to make money, I'd be concerned. On the books it looks like they're willing to burn money to advance their product.I don't agree with their closed off and controlling nature but I can't deny the objective truth that they consistently come out on top in terms of measuring the efficacy of their products.This is what "investment" is. You put money into something to get something out of it, that something is not always more money.When cities put money into building community centers, who benefits and who profits.
>>110181496Amazon lost money every year for like 20 years. When you have venture capitalists giving you infinite money until all your business rivals have been driven out of business, you can do what you like, because you're going to be a monopoly.
>>110180568who gives a shit?profit doesn't matter in 2026.you buy and hope other retards prop up your bags til you dump on them when the momentum slows.this is what crypto should have taught people.
>>110180582Cut that antisemitism.
>>110180568this is why /g/ will always be poor
>>110182356
>>110185396Not an argument
>>110185866Atta boy. Now can you connect the dots and understand the argument? Or is that too difficult from the heights of your sub-65 IQ?
>>110181460> A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where early investors are paid purported high returns using the capital collected from newer investors, rather than from actual business profits.
>>110186107isn't this just a definition of modern society?
>>110186107i didn't say it was honest business
>>110186125Oy vey
>>110180568the sloppers can't even afford their own slop kek
>>110180849>Corporate financeIt's called jewish trickery and it's not compilcated. It's just retarded.
>>110186125no it's just the reason why public stock trading & crypto exists
>>110186666thanks for clarifying satan
>>110186699No problem.
>>110180582They only need to scam stockholders and investors. There ain't that many users
>>110180582That kind of anti-semitism ain't cool, buddy.
>>110186682and pensions, and universities, and most goverment services based on debt
>>110180568Bend over, goy.
>>110180582Cool it with the antisemitism.
>>110180582Because Anthropic makes other companies like Nvidia more profitable.
I don't understand any of this and will simply call it jewish tricks.
>>110180568Snailcats win in the end.
uh they are just improving ai for the sake of humanity not for money
Who needs profit when you can become the keeper of the overlord?
OH N-
>>110190963Accelerate!
>>110190963no one cares about "futures" trading except a few gamblers
>>110191107Imagine being this retarded
>they literally left the future payments blankthe IPO is going to be a trillion dollar rugpull
>>110193204kek
>>110180582Because what they're doing is much more important than an investor getting their paycheck
>>110180568They're going to unload these debt bomb deathstars into your retirement accounts lol.
>>110180648false
>>110194835delete this picture of me
>>110180648true
>>110194790Causing economic ruin and grinding the public internet to a screeching halt through rogue agent swarms hacking everything they can reach?
>>110180568>80 billion>in six monthswell that escalated quickly
>>110180568>2023 - $1.5 Billion>2024 - $8.3 Billion>2025 - $42 Billion>0.5 x 2026 - $80.7 Billioncant claim they aren't showing steady progress
>>110184327It's amazing how repaying the money they borrowed and the paying the money they promised to others leads to big losses!!! If only there was some way to predict this.
>all these AI boosters ITT copinguntil the big hedgefunds break out the shorts you guys can keep partying.but don't say nobody warned ya when your ass gets streched by those giant red dildos.at that point your only hope is a government bailout unlike any other, which won't happen because there's no shot the fed is going to prop up a dozen companies that have trillion dollar marketcaps. but if it somehow does then my oh my you had better bring lube.
>>110200312>there's no shot the fed is going to prop up a dozen companies that have trillion dollar marketcaps. but if it somehow does..The US defense budget is under $1 trillion, annual deficit is under $2 trillion.people have lost sight of how mucho a $trillion actually the fuck is. I blame Musk.
>>110180568KWABOTY
what are they spending 80bn on? they dont have the world's biggest datacenters this all smells like FUD
>>110180634>>110180648>infinite government money printing>this is the free marketthe idiocy of the goy never fails to amaze
>>110180568They will be nationalized by Comrades Newsom/AOC and the Cyber Leninist TechnoSocialLiberalFascistHegelian NWO. Too big to fail.
>>110180582AI is like internet, TV, radio combined. It's technology times 10. Infrastructure times 100. Communication revolution. AI is everything right now, it's carrying the economy on its back and the new religion, new God created that can do literally anything. Yeah dude. It's here. We made TECH JESUS. It's national fucking security dude. Money won't even exist because we will all submit to the Singularity like in the Evangelion
>>110200525I can just run Qwen on my mac mini, who cares.
>>110200525yeah I kinda see it where we just input information into the machine automatically, with all these tracking that they're forcing on everyone out the wazoo eventually. Shit's gonna be hell if you live in a big city
they're losing much to keep the service affordable, how nice of them!
>>110200267it's not repaying money, those are convertible notes.
