Linux could never.
>>110176397Game?
this would be a monumental task that would take hundreds of hours to accomplish to run 30 year old software on modern linux
Sounds like bullshit, tard probably slopped up a version that can run on it
>>110176401Balatro
>>110176415It’s called backwards compatibility. Have you heard of it?
>>110176455Yes and you're on the wrong os if that's what you want
>>110176455I've heard of backside compatibility between your mom and my weiner.
>>110176397so why don't you try it, microsoft started breaking compatibilities with windows 7-8.Linux there was a time it could, but those corporate bastards even target the kernel these days... there are some breaking changes in the userland, depending on what you want to run.
>>110176460Show us the amazing backwards compatibility capabilities of Linux then.
>>110176397Ok, but I'm using a 40 yo text editor on Linux...
>>110176492Do it yourself retard
>>110176397You guys told me if I run old sodtware then I will instantly get backdoored and rootkitted. How did 1993 FreeCell work without immediately crashing from malware?
>>110176548basically, ooga booga bing bing wahoo
>>110176397Because Linux 2.0 is only 29 years old. wine can run 1993 freecell just fine though.
>>110176492Having fun downloading a billion .NET frameworks to get your gameslop running?
>>110176397You can run a recent-ish loonix itself on a 33 years old machine. Can Microslop 11 do that?
This is the source https://blog.enlyth.com/posts/oldest-windows-gui-app-win-11/
>>110176575t. freetard who is boasting about not having used windows since xp in another thread as we speak and means it
>>110176581>recent-ishYou can still run Linux 7.14 on an old Mac Centris, just not planned obsolescence x86 trash.
>>110176581That's literally a completely different thing and mostly useless
>>110176566Ah okay, so old games are immune to malware. Its just browsers and operating systems that need biweekly boosters to remain safe. Make sure you update your Windowss 11, anons. We gotta flatten this malware curve.
>>110176611>That's literally a completely different thing and mostly uselessIt's in the same category of factoids and exactly as useless.
>>110176611>completely useless>as opposed to running solitaire from 1993Don't @ me with any bullshit about muh business applications either because none of that shit was y2k compliant. wine is a better compatibility layer for 1993 programs than what ships with win11. It's literally a one liner to run freecell on Linux.
>>110176631In the post-AI security hellscape being able to run CPUs without speculative execution is never useless.
>>110176397seems legiti can run Winamp 1.0 from 1997 on my Windows out of the box, just doubleclick without 400GB of dependencies from insecure neckbeard repos
>>110176592Oh you're one of those steam paypiggies that can't even get that right.
>>110176648>microsoft forced everyone to install the dependencies so i don't have to
>>110176397saaaar redeem teh vindovs
>>110176647You figure using an NSA-backdoored OS managed by a retard who injects AI slop and xenoestrogen straight into the kernel to drive an old CPU is gonna keep you safe?
>>110176730mouthbreather/10. NSA backdoors the crypto not the OS.
linux doesn't really have the problem of software getting worse over time like on windows, so there's little need to run old versions of things on linux to begin with
>>110176751Sorry, Linus. Still not using your tranny CIA botnet.
>>110176455no
Since OP is a faggot, here's the link to the articlehttps://blog.enlyth.com/posts/oldest-windows-gui-app-win-11/
>>110176772>he posted with a browser capable of accessing 4chan>utterly oblivious to the irony
>>110176803?
>>110176803Any internet-connected device might as well be a bulletin board on the street. Linus' AI-slopped kernel and everything based on it won't protect you from shit. You better get used to it.
>>110176397I just tested and it literally works on my machine running in wine
Try running a 2000 era game next
The significance of Freecell is that it was the program used to test that Windows was running in 32-bit mode.
>>110176397Wine can run the same exe on any modern distro
>>110177093I was wondering how it could run on a 64 bit Windows since they never supported 16 bit programs.
I dumped the freecell.exe into Claude and before I finished the captcha I had a native version running on my Plasma/Arch desktop.
usecase?
>>110176397What's the point of backwards compatibility when I could just compile the program I need
>>110177600Compiling breaks legacy vendor lock-in practices. You should only be running AI Freecell in The Cloud.
>>110176484>Linux couldNot at all lmao. Backwards compatibility was never a goal of either GNU nor Linux.
>>110176397that task manager boomer shidding rn
>>110177600You can't compile such old programs without rewriting code. At the very least, they will rely on libraries or a toolkit that no longer exists.
lol, i am the author of the post, i did not expect it to blow up on HN so much i thought it was just something mildly interestingand the "anonymous forum" i mentioned in the post was actually /g/, so thanks to the anon who originally showed me Win32s
>>110176397I tried to have Claude make me Cunnytaire, supplying all the images for the cards, but it refused. I hate it!
>>110176397lol que
>>110177061>Try running a 2000 era game nextThat gets more difficult, the jeets at Microsoft never bothered to add DirectDraw support for Vista and newer for example, it often breaks color palettes. You need to rely on PCEm or compatibility wrappers (dxwrapper, dxwnd, dgvoodoo, WineD3D et al.) to play some of the older games.
>>110178531I tried that once and it literally fucking krashed halfway through the gameI was like you can't make this shit up lmao
>>110178680I've been running it for years, I think you're lying.
>>110178577diablo and diablo 2 work fine. warcraft 3 works fine. kotor works like it always did
it's a little unfair to compare them directly by the same year. linux was still brand new in 1992/1993 when win32s came out, and not new in the commercial product sense either, new in the new hobby project sense. it had a long way to go before it settled on even the basics. like for example it didn't even use ELF executables back then. in fact, support for the old executable format was removed in linux 5.19 (2022), so you can't run any linux binaries from 1993 anymore
>>110178732https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/109je8z/playing_diablo_1_on_windows_7_how_do_i_fix_the/>warcraft 3 works finethat's DX8>kotor worksthat's DX9it's DX7 and older games that have issues, especially if they use directdraw
>>110178732No it doesn't tard, warcraft 3 probably yes, the others come with updates
>>110178784weird. I had no problem with diabloanyway, anon said 2000 era games, diablo 1 is 90shalf-life and cs also work fine
>>110178732You're playing the GoG version or some other hacked up cope. The originals only work on wine.>>110178784>kotor in dxdo winshits really?
>>110176397you could just recompile it from source on linux
Linux can't even run a sound card, so you bet it would be a pain to run a 30yo program.
>>110176397Now try running a 16bit Windows application on a 64bit Windows. Wine can run 3.11 stuff just fine.
>>110178823>You're playing the GoG version or some other hacked up cope.could be for diablo 1the other ones I had on disc and played at least up until w8
>>110178577I had that color issue when I was running broodwar on my win7 laptop. There is a registry fix for it somewhere on the internet, so its not a biggie
>>110178834Purchasing issue. Get the $10 Apple DAC from Walmart and try again.
>>110178819true but many games in 2000 and later were still made in DX7see here and sort by release datehttps://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_Direct3D_2-7_gamesdoesn't mean every DX7 game will have issues, mostly just the ones that use directdraw instead of direct3d7
>>110178982wrong link, meant this:https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DirectDraw_games
>>110176401Boku no Pico
>>110176397>Almost as old as me
93 era GUI app would have been some Xlib/Tk app and probably work fine on a modern desktop.
>>110176401>Game?ur mum lmao
>>110179187more likely athena/motifyou can't run 1993 linux programs at all. linux didn't start using elf binaries until 1995, and support for the old format was dropped in 2022. 1995-1997 elf's maybe, those still use the old "linux libc" instead of standard glibc. after 2002 should be way easier as most distros still have compatibility packages for that version of glibc, and anything after 2004 (glibc 3.4+) should just work as long as you have any other external dependencies the program needs
>>110176401Gay the Spire
>>110179461Hmmm.... you're right, a.out support has been dropped. Maybe it could be made to work using binfmt, but that's not something that works ootb.
>>110176397I have bought linux games on GOG.com that do not work on a modern distroi just run through wine lmao
>>110176401you lost it
>>110179511example?
>>110176397I compiled and built gimp 1.0 on linux 7 without even using AI a few months ago
>>110179746yeah... lemme just get the freecel source code and...dumbass
>>110179546NTA but I had several of those and stopped trying native ports a while ago. A lot of them have ridiculous deps like Ubuntu 14 or something. It wouldn't be that hard to come up with a reasonable podman layered solution for native binaries if Windows became totally irrelevant at some point, but so far everyone is content to use wine as the standard cross-platform ABI.
>>110178784>directdrawMany of my favorite directdraw games work just fine. Just throw dxwnd at them and 99% of issues go away.https://sourceforge.net/projects/dxwnd/
>>110176502Linux isn't 40 years old and it's not the same binary, doofus.
>theres probably>0 prooflinuxfags btfo
>>110176611It's not. There's support _for a reason_. Think.>>110176797Thanks.
>>110181449>i can't run a binary from one distro to anotherskill issue
reminder the only way to purge these shit threads off /g/ is a bullet in OP's head
>>110181535>>110181449
>>110176401My Little Sister Can't Possibly Have A Hemorrhoid?!
>>110181791steam link please
>>110181926doesn't appear to be on steamhttps://vndb.org/v20488
>>110176401The Maiden Rape Assault - Violent Semen Inferno
>>110181424It's incredible that Linux can run programs made before its own existence! This kind of back compatibility is unmatched, no?
>>110178834Sound cards have no use case.
>>110180530>THAT DOESNT COUNTPredictable typical cope
>>110176397Can they do the same with minesweeper?All of the clones are total shitI haven't been able to play minesweeper in many years
>>110182036This is beautiful. Thank you, anon.
>>110178577Still have the original CD ROM of tomb raider 1 around and last time i tried (windows 7?) it didnt start at all
>>110176397linux can still run glquake.x11 on another computer and basically wayland dbus pulseaudio were a mistake. distributed gaming was a thing in 199x
>>110176397meanwhile try to run any DX <9 game and you are in for bullshit more often than not.
>>110176484Huh? I have never bothered downloading the Linux version of games because they break from update to update.It was even worse in the past.
>>110176397usecase?
>>110176484Diablo 2 already barely worked in xp. It did work if you enabled compat mode, though. In win7 you needed some extra hacks. They also started doing emulation for compat instead of proper compat. Been even worse in 8 and further worth in 10.
>>110178435And yet, linux achieves it while wangblows doesn't.
>>110178819You're lying out your ass is what it is.
most tcl/tk scripts, even from the 90 run on modern X11 linux
>>110185593>Diablo 2 already barely worked in xpAbsolutely false. XP in general had excellent compatibility with Win 9X games. 7 is where more issues started popping up.To their credit, 10 and 11 have compatibility that is pretty much on par with 7, so no huge loss there.
>>110185654>zoomer pretending he has any clue whatsoever about what happened in these dayslmao
>>110179546NTA but the only game that has consistently worked for me outta the box on Linux was Abuse. Granted, the creator was a fanboy and it shows, because it's well optimized. Even then, I couldn't get the sound to run on some distros.Never had this issue with Windows.
>>110185672Nigga everyone played D2 and a bunch of other popular games at the time like Q2/Q3/Starcraft/WC3 on XP. Diablo 2 in general was well optimized, stop gaslighting.
>>110185679>zoomer can't read and keeps digging his graveL M A O
>>110185681Out of all the weird things to blatantly lie about, picking D2's "compatibility" is hilarious.Maybe if you're referring to some launch version without LoD, but even then, I've never seen this issue happen at all and D2 was in every internet cafe back in the day.
>>110176397if it's not pic related, i'm not interested
>>110185709OK zoomer, whatever helps you sleep at night. Tell us more about our adulthood based on your infl*encer's tikt*k videos which are clearly more correct than real life.
>>110185674there's a linux version of abuse? i've only played/known of the dos version
>>110184677your opengl is broken
>>110185785There's a source port of it. Pretty much every distro has packages.
>>110177600>oopsie! >we changed linux standard display server 3 times since that program was made!>and gnu libc has had some api breaking changes as well...>and we finally fixed sound just after 17 implementations! you better rewrite!>and it better not use that old init system, we have something new already!>and wow is that 32 bit? it's errm insecure or something, you have to rewrite it >and don't forget to ship it in flavor-of-the-month package system!
>>110187449>inbred doesn't know the difference between abi and api>doesn't know that the only display server is X>thinks anything except alsa is even remotely usable>despite abominahacks like gayland and poopwire being slot-in compatible with alsa/x code>doesn't know about i386 variants and similar constructs available everywhere. Meanwhile in wangblows land...>thinks there exists other package systems than deb and rpmBrain status: indian
>>1101875105 good goynux points have been added to your FSF account
>>110182213You should tell it to the other retard that claimed Linux could run his 40 year old editor. If you still have problems, I suggest re-reading OP.
>>110176397Win 10 has solitaire for free tho
>>110187543The OP requires several hacks to even work.Meanwhile yes, shit just werks in linuxland.
>>110176401The Mai- oh dammitWater Closet: The Forbidden Chamber
>>110176575I just realized. if Games use .NET Core, like, what happens when say, .NET Core 8 goes out of support? do Windows users just get left with unsupported, vulnerable and potentially unrunnable runtimes for their games? Do most Windows users still just target the .NET Framework 4.x stuff since those get Windows Updates?
>>110176455I dont' get this cope. A lot of the Linux userland that's actually critical usually ship a SONAME that is lib*.so.0 or some soname that hasn't changed in like 20+ years. (libc.so.6)
>>110188002Same as dx and libvc++ etc., they carry every single subversion at once.
>>110188152so you're just stuck with vulnerable or buggy shit code? what's the point of backwards compat and abi stability then?
>>110188169Oy vey goy
>>110176397freecell is the new incell
>>110182160"Violent Semen Inferno" was the name of the band I was in in college
>>110176397with sdl compat you can run ancient binaries from like 2001 such as serious sam or postal or simcity 3k sybau
>>110188901You can run any binary for Linux 2.0 with the appropriate container environment. It's not as old as win32 though.
>>110176407static linking my nigga
>>110176397>what is virtualization
>>110189081i think i even saw people turn really old slackware versions into containers. someone just needs to make the effort.
Freecell.exe runs perfectly in wine/proton though
>muh api>zero portability
>>110181542this
>>110190796Debian provides OCI images going back to 2.2 (2000), which is old enough to run pretty much any closed source Linux program. Google can show you how to set up the environment in 5 seconds. User ABI stability is just not relevant.
