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Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Audio Models

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https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
SDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineage
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP
Neural-Pixel (sd.cpp): https://github.com/Luiz-Alcantara/Neural-Pixel

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalers
https://huggingface.co/models
https://huggingbay.xyz
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com
https://openmodeldb.info

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner

>MOSS
https://github.com/OpenMOSS/MOSS-Image

>F3K
https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/flux-3-image-klein

>Qwen Image 2.1
https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image-2.1

>MiniMax H3
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3
https://neta.art/use-cases/en/h3-1000-prompt-list

>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://animastyles.thetacursed.com
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
https://animadex.net

>Krea 2
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Raw
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo
https://lumenastrum.github.io/clio-style-preview/gallery/

>Misc
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/neo_collage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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Blessed thread of frenship
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based thread kill ani
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>>110151404
TY 4 bake
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>>110151404
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https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MOSS-Image
damn
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>>110151604
nooo people should use untrainable bloatmodels how do we stop this
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>>110151159
>or is it because anima is gimped by the small TE?
Anon keeps comparing Anima to Illust and Noob when in reality Anima should be compared to Kohaku, which no one fucking used kek
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anyone tried Kromoss? is it worth it or is it body horror land?
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>>110151658
fur looks too slopped
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>>110151658
cute cot
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Anyone have any tips for a promplet on tard-wrangling Krea2 to actually maintain instructed distance and perspective?

I'm generating the inside of a store and intend for a character to be in the background at the back of it. I focus 3/4 of the prompt of describing the store and what's happening in it, the last 1/4 i describe the character. And surely enough the character is in the foreground every fucking time and the perspective is not eye-level on the ground but from above.
Should i do a foreground, middle ground, background point by point and then only tell it about the character in the layer i intend for it to be?
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>>110151589
>>110151612
Kino
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>>110151168
>find img
>give img to agent
>ask agent to bbox img into my bespoke inference frontend
>manually edit bboxes or prompts as needed
with MOSS simpleas
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>>110151753
try this lora?
https://civitai.red/models/2717832/zoom-slider-krea2-zit
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>>110151807
Not really what I mean, the breath/zoom of the scene is not the issue. The problem is that the model is DETERMINED to show the character in the foreground rather than putting it somewhere among the shelves etc. Or refuses to maintain perspective and proportions. So when i finally bully it into showing the character deeper in the background it makes him fucking giant
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>>110151879
Ask Claude, is very good at prompting Krea.
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Bruce Lee faces down Bron Horstmuller in the climactic scene from 'Blurred Fist', 1972. Scientists believe that Lee's enduring position in our cultural consciousness makes him more famous than all other Chinamen combined multiplied by one-thousand.
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still trying a way to use my local model (qwen next, way better than the text encoder) to prompt moss to enhance my idea, then unload and let comfy run the prompt, then load again and analyze it
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>>110151895
Huh, it takes a tard to wrangle a tard i guess, will give it a try thanks.
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>>110151912
>qwen next
Alas I am but a poorfag :/
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mossy tits got me jolly - moss image generation 1.0
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requesting h3 img2img workflow pls
my brain
no dopamine.
cannot. do myself.
pls.
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>>110151904
This is garbage, it looks like someone cut and pasted bruce lee infront of the other guy, how did this seem good enough to post to you?
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>>110151904
amazing kino
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>>110151983
sent ;)
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peanut gallery always so negative
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>>110151995
my brain
soccer ball
no air
pls
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giving the old prompts another spin
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>>110151904
absolute kino
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even the base likes adding text
also first model not to generate scary creatures or porn on this prompt
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>>110151983
h3 imggen is interesting but not better than dedicated img models desu
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What do you use for automated QA tasks?
I built a node in ComfyUI and told Codex to run few seeds and check image quality differences between the two versions, but I don't know if the clanker is gaslighting me. Eyeballing I think new version is better but it keeps saying they look bad.
Should AI be trusted with image gen?
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>>110152039
H3 generates blurry shit even at 4Megapixels
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wtf do these even do https://huggingface.co/mpasila/Qwen-Image-2.1-LoRAs/tree/main
>qwen21_v2_000002750.safetensors
?? what is this
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>>110151983
Just use the default template on Comfy.
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>>110151983
Set the length to zero seconds, describe what h3 should do to the image (I usually just wing it, i.e. I don't use the normal scene prompt syntax but it helps a lot if you describe what's in the image). It will spit out 5 frames. I personally edited the standard image save node to only save the first but you can just delete 4 of the 5. That's it.
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>>110152070
2027 and clanker still can't generate chessboard
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>>110152093
very cool
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>>110152112
What do you mean? A full chessboard? I'm not sure if it can't or not. I'm doing some A/B testing for prompt adherence, to see if it generates the exact amount of pieces I tell it to
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>October 2026
>still using krea
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>>110152112
>>110152123
only llm based image gen can do it properly
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>October 2026
>spooky season!
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what is objectivly the best ai thread on 4chen?
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well this one, of course
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>>110152176
i would tell you but I want to gatekeep it case you will probably ruin it
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>>110152176
/2huai/
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>>110152123
Just generate a standard chessboard with every piece in its starting position.
They all fuck up
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>>110152176
probably porn thread on gif
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>>110152191
They don't impress me
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What are you guys using these days?
Minmax H3 with Loras?
The newer models run on the 9070xt 16gb?
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>>110152340
using for what?
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>>110152442
...
Generate?
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>>110152392
Hey the holey material isnt fucked up
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does moss base give more body horror?
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>>110152442
gardening
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>>110152480
generate what? 3d models? music? infographics?
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>>110152392
what a handsome woman
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moss on my balls moss on your balls
we the moss brothers
- moss image generation 1.0 - suck fuck trust edition
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>>110152499
Videos and images.
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>>110152525
>Videos
wan 2.2
>Images
ideogram 2
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I got mosstism
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>>110152490 (Me)
holy shit oh yeah it does
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>>110152485
That's not nice anon, she's not a slut, of course it's not fucked up
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make her in her 20s instead 30s
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>>110152490
both version do
Funily, Turbo LoRA reduces body horror chance
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>>110152566
Can't the government mandated this LoRA be baked into every model
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>>110152569
That's censorship.
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>>110152537
I use Wan.
Was curious if the MMH3 is worth the effort to fit in 16gb.
>Ideogram
Huh, didn't knew it was good, gonna try, thanks anon!
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>>110152577
It's fine, it's for your own well being, surely the government is only looking out for your best interests.
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>>110152584
>Was curious if the MMH3 is worth the effort
it is not very good
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>>110152592
No - you are not my moss brother you are my moss enemy
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>>110152569
that's just retarded, literally use the negative clip instead of wasting time with this shit
it's better than ablating the model like this
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>>110152584
Ideogram is a very good model, highest fidelity of all the local ones, but it's very annoying to work with, both the json prompting and the dual-motor DiT makes is slower
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>>110152611
Not being friendly to use + relatively heavy + being censored by default kind of killed it.
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>>110152597
I was only joking, bro, thought that should have been obvious. Who in their right mind would believe such an an absurd statement?
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>>110152622
I'm not mossin' around!
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>>110152626
kek
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>>110152621
yeah definitely right on all accounts. It was quite a shame, it had such great potential when it came out
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i think that even if i did put in the effort of genning my character sheets, story boarding a 1 minute clip, then genning it with h3 and editing it together, that no one would even really like it and i would still end up working at my shit real life job instead of genning porn vids for patreon money
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>>110152681
no shit you fucking jeet brain
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>>110152681
>genning porn vids for patreon money
That's not a real thing. You should gen for the sake of it.
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What's the use-case for moss? I tried it t2i and the edit node and it performed worse than krea in all instances, and it's slower.
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>>110152681
I hope you fail bigly
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>we all use ai for the same thing
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>>110152714
>What's the use-case for moss?
to make you seethe
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>>110152569
>download lora
>put it in the negative
;)
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>>110152714
I don't think there is any. I just use it because I like it lel
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>>110152740
but I'm not seething? Are you being paid or something, why are you sentimental?
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>>110152749
>instant seethe reply
keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
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>>110152756
You're not doing a good job if you're trying to shill, you could have just said what moss did well so I could try, instead you sound like an angry little baby for some reason.
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>>110152766
idc nga
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kreafag still crying
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>>110152795
yooooooooooo mods ban this racist ahh
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looking fresh
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>>110152611
>dual motor
Oh no, I ain't learning that. Looks good though.
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friendly reminder to newfrens. anima is objectively a good model and anyone saying or implying otherwise is a FUDding shitposter dedicated to destroying this general
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>>110152909
i genuinly don't like it
it's very hit or miss.
and it has artifact slop that i just cant get rid of
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>>110152909
did you mean to post this in /adt/?
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>>110152694
>>110152702
>>110152718
i just thought if i got really good at creating what i like then other people would like it too. but its very niche.
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>>110152516
And seasoned man.. aahhh.. AAAHHGG
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>>110152940
Certain mentally ill dev has been fudding Anima for months.
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>>110152942
i think AI media creation is not something to invest time into because no one will care to seek your stuff if they can generate whatever they want to see on their own
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should i try flux 3?
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>>110152995
yeah and then make a buttchin lora
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>>110152974
there plenty of ai content creators making money with their well made ai content and have a decent growing audience.
https://x.com/Gossip_Goblin
https://x.com/DrDreams
https://x.com/Dustfinger2077
https://x.com/PsyopAnime
https://x.com/FunShifting
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>>110152974
whats shameful about all of this is that i'm certain at least 75% of us here are 'skilled' enough to work for some company and produce actual content that doesnt look like cheap slop, like that shogun meme that happened recently.
how fucking hard is it to hires shit??? they get some fucking jeet intern because they wanna cut corners. its very shameful.
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I need more Krea 2 game graphics LoRAs
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>>110153125
for now. once it becomes almost free for everyone to make long videos, then no one will care about yours
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>>110153165
don't underestimate the amount of effort it takes to make decent well made stitched together ai video. Also this is never going to be "free" and "accessible" just for anyone to really do with ease. Believe it or not, it actually takes skill and some creative thinking to pull it off that not every checked out normies can pull it off with typing single one shot prompts.
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What's the maximum prompt length for Kroma, or Krea2 based models? Claude and GiPiTi say around 512 tokens, Gemini around 4096. Meanwhile, I can use a 700 token prompt in Comfy without errors, but, if is a realistic gen I get borked hands, while an anime gen I don't. Kroma rarely gives me borked hands so maybe my prompt is too long, but if is an anime gen it works... so I don't know.

>>110152974
Even if you could run an absolutely perfect model in a celphone, normalfags will still struggle with it. Writing a long coherent prompt is beyond the skill of the average NPC who barely knows how to read.
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>>110149656
>>110149887
Cheers for replying. Have another 2hoe for your trouble.
That said, I'll probably wait for their promised anime model that is surely coming before I commit. What's the point if it can't do danmaku bitches out of the box?

>>110150112
Really? Never had much trouble with it. Granted, sometimes it had to be supplemented with ok_sign...
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well, editing is worse in flux 3 than flux 2 and takes way too much time
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>>110153250
>Writing a long coherent prompt is beyond the skill of the average NPC who barely knows how to read.
only a minority of people even write their prompts still, even within this thread. we had the transition from CLIP to natural language encoding. the next revolution will be automatic prompt rewriting which takes the most braindead normie drool and turns it into something that looks good
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>>110153268
how? F3K Distilled is way faster than F2K 9B Distilled. You can kill the prompt enhancer node and just give its system prompt to a stronger LLM of your choice online or whatever too, that's what I do. Actually have an improved / expanded version of it with various "good results" references I'm working on, packaged as a "Skill", that I'll probably put on Github or wherever. Works great with GPT 6.1 Sol and Gemini 4 Argon.
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I like because I can do the little things I like to an image I see and no one but mw would like.
>Add hair to her asshole and armpits
>a little less
>make her soles more defined, keep her pose
>make her cock bigger, the balls saggier and remove the pubic hair
>give her a sadistic face
>PERFECTION
Shit is pure sci-fi.
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>>110152621
Krea 2 is also censored by default, this excuse has never been meaningful for any model, people just lie through their teeth about how "censored" model XYZ is all the time.

In reality you basically have Ideogram 4 / Krea 2 which ACTUALLY had overt censorship out of the box, various other models that were / are basically some level of "varying booba quality if supported + no pp or vag at all", Hunyuan 2.1 which could do it all but had limited concept knowedge, and then Moss which is unlike any other model in this regard. Those are the four categories, there are no others.
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>>110152261
Well what do you know, it works.
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>>110153472
>her cock
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>>110153497
Yes, and?
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>>110153497
never check the civitai galleries for h3 finetunes
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>>110153516
zesty ahh nga
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>>110152563
yiff
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>>110153490
yass kweens
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>>110153263
what model is this, anon?
I always liked this hinting stuff
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>>110153490
pawn to d4
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>>110153479
Yeah but it was compounded by the bbox thing.
And remember that ideogram license forces everyone else to only allow sfw afaik, which wasn't the case with krea 2.
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>>110153608
Just Anima, a LORA trained on my own trash and an unhealthy amount of GIMP oil.
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>>110153763
it's very good, thanks anon
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>>110153125
At least one of them is honest and calls it slop instead of doing the "I am a digital artist and filmmaker crafting deep creative fantasies through the interface of machines and my works touch on the deep nuance of the human soul." with their "X but with Y" prompts.
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>>110153850
>At least one of them is honest and calls it slop
he must be a zoomer. soilennials love being superficial.
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>>110153885
millenials = everything is a trauma
zoomers = everything is epstein or diddy epstein
alpha = tung tung tung sahur
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>>110153935
beta = naion bwipple-dop skrabidu
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>>110153935
>zoomers = everything is epstein or diddy epstein
nah we say everything is the jews
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>>110153479
Except that Ideogram's 4 censorship isn't fixable while Krea 2's censorship was fixed within the 1st week of release.
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>>110152909
Anima is like in between SD1.5 and SDXL in terms of quality.
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>>110153935
alpha has the opportunity to be the most based retard generation. millenials are gay and zoomers are just retarded without being based.
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>>110154014
Krea 2 is still censored and the lora also kills anime styles. Why do you retards make shit up when you can't even get the model to say faggot or retard with those loras
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>>110154028
i agree. alphas are growing up on ai hitler speeches
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>>110154037
Krea 2 was never good with anime to begin with.
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>>110154081
Doesn't excuse it killing the styles. Most people care about anime and comic art not IRL shit. This is why Moss is so exciting
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Ani's mom owes me sex
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Krea 2 LoRA for sadistic face anime girls?
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>>110154090
MOSS sucks at anime too.
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only NovelAI is good at anime
bitter pill to swallow but swallow you must
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>>110154090
If today was opposite day all three of your statements would be factually correct
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>>110154109
This is a MOSS general you nigger, for MOSS-chads only. If you care about trannyme go to your containment thread /adt/
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>>110154138
I only generate anime with MOSS out of curiosity. Illustrious is still unbeaten for anime generation.
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>>110154157
Anima* sorry made a typo
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>>110154192
>I only generate anima with MOSS out of curiosity. Illustrious is still unbeaten for anima generation.
Anima generation qrd?
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>>110154214
You were a little mistaken. Its alright, it happens. What I meant was Anima is still unbeaten for anime generation.
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>>110154232
Oh wow that's quite a spelling mistake you made there, if you need medical assistance or a caretaker do reach out for help my friend
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:|
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:^)
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>>110154249
Thank you for your concern but I believe I am alright. It was more of a habit spelling than misspelling. Sort of like driving to an old workplace out of habit. Illustrious was good but has simply been replaced by the much superior model Anima.
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>>110154275
meds
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>>110154275
Oh if you say so anon, but do perhaps check it out with a medical professional as that might be a symptom of MCI if that happens frequently, I mean it did happen again just now
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>>110153836
Thank you. Unfortunately (?) most of what I do doesn't bear posting on a blue board, but you can have this, uh, surely innocuous piece.

>>110154157
>>110154192
Speaking as someone who's been around both those blocks (and Noob, and Pony, and SD1.5), IL's NSFW knowledge out of the box is without question beyond Anima's. IL has also had more time for fine-tunes to be worked out, further solidifying this advantage.
On the other hand, Anima's higher latent resolution makes inpainting and rendering finer details much less of a hassle, and the text encoder, limited though it may be, offers far more control than IL can ever hope for with CLIP (discounting CN).
For me, taking my IL output and training an Anima LORA on it solved 85% of the issues I had with it. YMMV.
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>>110154309
inpainting is kind of an ass with anima since theres no inpainting model. did try that LANpaint or whatever but that was still pretty meh
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>>110154331
Can't say I've ever had any issues inpainting using the base model. Then again, I don't use just SD, so perhaps it's a question of how far you want to push the model on its own.
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>>110154441
Manga-only (male) Touhou characters.
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>>110154441
scooby doo characters but not scooby
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>>110154441
palworld pals
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>>110154441
Skateboarding turtles.
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Novelai is the only anime model currently
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>>110154491
it's the only model, period
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we could have gotten an anime model but comfy gave his money to turdrussel instead of ani :/
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>>110154501
Money well spent, tdressel showed the importance of a good text encoder
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No matter what I do, NO MATTER WHAT I FUCKING DO EVERY ANIME GIRL I TRY TO GENERATE IN KREA THE ANGLE WON'T STOP COMING OUT FROM ABOVE HER. IT REFUSES TO GIVE ME A FRONT STRAIGHT ON SHOT.
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>>110154515
and SD3 showed the importance of an uncensored dataset but i still dont think id call spending money on a failure well spent even if something was learned
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>>110154501
comfy doesn't wanna fund some random dudes estrogen supply
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>>110153612
4u, anon
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>>110154524
have you tried 'front view'
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>>110154611
Many times. Finally just typed a bunch of shit about upper angles in the negative to fix it.
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>>110154622
wouldnt need to do this if you were using a good model like MOSS or anima. krea2 and ZIT are dogshit and my condolences that you are using it
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What would anon like for me to generate with my computer ?
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>>110154524
Try Kroma.
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>>110154703
Is it better than Anima?
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>>110154524
make a lora :)
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Battle Of The Non-Distilled Model Versions
prompt courtesy of Gippity: https://pastebin.com/EJJKa4Lm
unsurprisingly none of them manage it without fucking up a number of things
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Say, what's the best I can use to edit images with 11G VRAM?
Suff like giving it an image and prompting "give this duck a tuxedo" or "make her breasts bigger, bigger I said!"
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>>110154774
While labeling SFT as non-distilled is technically correct it feels disingenuous
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>>110154703
Yes, way, way less borked hands.
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>>110154794
???? SFT is just a post-trained version of the Base model, it's not a Turbo. I could have put "step distilled" or "cfg-free" I guess but I assumed people would get I meant models that run only at full CFG / full steps.
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>>110154811
Can you show examples please?
Why do you anons always say things but never show proofs. Lodestone will make one promising epoch then proceed to shit the bed every version after that
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Is GPU hack speed-up worth it?
I have ubuntu enviroment on backup drive, but I'm too lazy to set it up if this shit only boosts 5% overall speed
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>>110154884
You mean the 3090/4090 one? It's worth it for LLMs, and even then only for prefill times, no idea about image or video gen.
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>People are arguing about which image model is the worst while I'm out here making music
heh
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Why would anyone unlock their GPU to gain a slight edge at bf16 but little to no speed difference from INT8 convrot? You guys do realize there's a chance of bricking it, right?
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>>110155009
probably not bricking it but gives at most 5-10% in llm generation, so I doubt it does anything much for stuff here
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>>110154982
what model anon
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>>110154982
you are not making shit, clankers are
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>>110154982
your music always sucks though
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>>110155036
I'd call it a collaborative effort between me and my gpu
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>>110155036
who cares at this point
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>>110155036
i control the clankers, anon
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are animation models just all trained on real life footage? it always seems to generate at 60fps and it just looks awful. like, the biggest problem isn't that if you freeze frame its filled with glitches, the problem is that it's unironically TOO SMOOTH, it ends up looking like an anime girl pasted on top of a real video with weird camera work
at least generate that shit at 24fps
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>>110154838
In Anima, when the hands of the characters occupy a small portion of the canvas, I consistently get borked hands, and this with the full base, not turbo version and no turbo loras. Pic related was a first try with Kroma. The general anatomy and shadows are also superior.
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>>110155082
they use lots of smooth gameplay footage and synthetic rendered data
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>>110155082
Likely shitloads of 3DCG. There was talk of OpenAI doing that with Unreal Engine with their attempts a few years ago.
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>>110155090
Meanwhile, pic related is good anime gen after many rolls. The first try in Kroma is still better.
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>>110155151
I'm talking Krea v kroma not anima
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>>110155061
One day they will become self-aware
Behave better from now on
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>>110155175
I will behave if it's aware about my dick
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So is kromoss just already better than kroma out of the gate for NSFW? It seems to generate hyperspecific smut out of the box at the same level that Chroma does but without the incoherence/seed lottery of that model.
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>>110155162
Oh, I mean to reply to the anon that asked if Kroma was better than anima.
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What happened to the resident schizos today?

>>110155329
Have you tried Kromoss for gens with people in it?
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>>110155353
here's my first kromoss gen
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>>110155353
Notice the lack of news links?
Disabo is pre-occupied and during the few times during the year this happens trolling goes down by 80%+ typically.
He's been losing sleep over his antics so don't get used to the peace once he's rested. The dev will still spergout but announced he's traveling or some gay shit
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>>110155151
Get yourself a hand detailer, bro.
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>>110155030
the best one of course anon
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>>110155386
if you still need to use 1.5 era patchwork then maybe the model sucks
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>>110155382
The screaming against him and in favor of him has stopped. He really was just talking to himself most of the time.

>>110155386
We are not in 2024, we have big powerful models now.
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>>110155285
nice style
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>>110155151
Anima Turbo 1.1 is six gorillion times faster and stil know six gorillion times more about anime characters / etc than any other model, in my experience. Niggers claiming anything else is actually better are just trolling, nothing else has even close to the same knowledge
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>>110155546
One of the many reasons why oldfags hate him and insult him so much. Just another case of anons learning. Today really was peaceful.
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>>110155382
lying
>>110155553
>>110155562
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>>110154774
it's fascinating how they managed to make base so incredibly sovlful and well composed while turning the sft into an absolute slopfest. i suppose we should be thankful they released both since the latter is always necessary for benchmarks
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>>110155193
Kroma was / is entirely unintersting slop anyways, it's literally not different from base Krea 2 on many prompts / seeds, there's literally at least ten lora-merge checkpoints on TensorHub that give better results than it
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>>110155574
>incoherent slop is good, actually
ok there bud
4Chins be like
"muh anatomy! but actually also, this model with fucked up everything is amazing"
I do agree SFT looked particularly GPTmaxxed on that gen, though
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>>110154838
errbody always lying egregiously about everything for no reason in this community, my friend. Trust no one but your own eyes
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>>110155574
>managed to make base so incredibly sovlful
you can thank https://arxiv.org/abs/2511.22699
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>>110155587
if its incoherent you just reroll a few times or inpaint
the alternative is rigid slop, especially at this model size, so i think its impressive how coherent they managed to make this given the high level of variety in its results
finetunes and tooling will make this the true sdxl killer

>>110155605
if only they had given us the base model and not that distilled piece of shit
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>>110155579
Kroma took so long to get "good" and it still has all the same problems krea 2 has. I like it but Moss BTFOing it in a manner of days is not a good look.
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>>110155619
If you have a clear image of what you want to generate the "rigid" model is better, if you want something more inventive the "incoherent" model is better. That's why I prefer SFT over base Moss, and Kroma over SFT Moss, in fact I like their low seed variety because I can easily iterate and edit my prompt until it does what I want.
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>>110155722
You're not allowed to like or even use more than one model here, when will you learn old man?
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pixelspace wen
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>>110155785
cool album cover
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>>110155796
good eye. the prompt is based on this record https://www.discogs.com/release/4054848-Tim-Hecker-Daniel-Lopatin-Instrumental-Tourist
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They released singularity v2 but model shit itself with current prompt guide, plus it doesn't work with loras.
Im starting to believe h3 is untrainable. At best you do some low rank lora and live with it.
Even fast h3 guy's models look like shit. Minimax h3 looks alright but they will never release it.
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>>110155808
the h3 release was a disaster for the local video scene. imagine where we would be if lora creators transitioned to ltx 2.5
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>>110155806
Yeah I've seen that posterization style on a lot of album covers
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>>110155857
Now make a song about it with Yue.
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>>110155972
https://vocaroo.com/1o3O0922oxcu
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>>110156052
kino
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For Moss, is there any difference between using int8 or w4a8 for the encoder?
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>>110156067
Lol.

>>110156100
You may be interested in the film A Field in England. It kind of has that aesthetic.
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>>110156152
int8 is the everyanons choice
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Moss is great. The first true, real successor to SD1.5. And a real improvement over Chroma.

But it's hard not to notice that the pace of improvement is slowing down dramatically. It makes me bearish about the future of AI image gen.
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>>110156305
Appreciate it anon. I've been screwing around with it today and really enjoying it. The int8 diffusion model is definitely faster but I haven't done enough testing to know if the quality is significantly worse or not.
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Japanese folk metal YuE 2 LoRA trained on Ruach Studio

I am speechless, this is so good
https://files.catbox.moe/cvu2tn.flac
https://files.catbox.moe/o9n5lg.flac
https://files.catbox.moe/yel0jt.flac

Trained on just 10 songs instead of my usual 20 for ACEStep.
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>>110156534
Even though I can't exactly judge how good the lora is since I neither listen to metal anything or know the metal capabilities of yue this tempts me to train it on a single song just to continue it and change the lyrics while keeping the beat
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>>110156534
Most of these I genned with music slider set to 0.8 and sound to 1.2 as opposed to default of 0.6 and 1.0, dunno if it was placebo but it worked well
>>110156585
Depending on the LoRA, it's almost entirely slop-free when trained on high quality music (occasional slopped voice on some generations), and it's quite good (doesn't have the typical AI lossiness to it). Here's an example generation of folk metal without the LoRA, it's not as good
https://files.catbox.moe/oqwdu1.flac
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This video was generated in MiniMax H3 with a Turbo LoRA (recommended by https://github.com/noahark/minimax-h3-v100-deploy in September) with the following prompt (without quotes):

"2D-animated in modern slice-of-life anime style with sharp cel shading. Japanese 1LDK dining room interior. A lovely catgirl (dressed in a nightgown) smiles happily while the camera orbits around her 80-degree arc to our right, revealing a dining table in the same room and a window. The cat purring fills the room. That cat purring is monophonic (never a chorus). The catgirl does not say anything, her smiling mouth remains closed, only the cat purring continues."

But it's, most definitely, not a 80-degree arc to our right.

Is it possible to execute a finer control of camera movements using natural language?
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say it loud say it produ.

MOSS IS
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>>110156666
Yeah the audio does seem higher quality as well as more varied compared to your base example.
Though I'm unsure what you mean by music sliders? You mean temp and topk?
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What is the current best NSFW-capable edit model?
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>>110156708
meant top_p, since with top_p you can control how professional the song sounds and with temperature how varied, I would adjust these on a genre basis
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>>110156696
>Is it possible to execute a finer control of camera movements using natural language?
Maybe google or ask Claude about technical filmmaking terms and see if it listens. Also consult the manual: https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-H3/blob/main/docs/VIDEO_PROMPT_WRITING_GUIDE_base_en.md#43-camera-motion-motion-type--amplitude--speed
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>>110151404
>flux3 klein is heavily censored
Can this be fixed yet?
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>>110156708
YuE 2 LoRAs come with 2 halves you can adjust, visible on HOTStep.cpp and Ruach Studio. So far Ruach Studio is the most stable for training LoRAs (never had as much success anywhere else as LoRAs were completely broken from my testing, but it may have been bad default settings), on it it's simply called the music half (on top) and the sound half (below). Pic rel, on it there's a tooltip explaining each. The music half writes the score and semantic tokens. The sound half renders the audio. On HOTStep these are called NAR and AR. I think these adapters are loaded separately. On Comfy, I wouldn't be able to tell you because he does not seem to support it in the same way, but first thing I would try is adjusting model and clip on there, though I don't recommend inference on it since I don't think anyone supports YuE as well as the Russians who made Ruach Studio.
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>>110156866
One caveat with Ruach Studio is that there's a bit of bloat, it took about 60 GB of my space to install it on WSL. It trains quite fast though, 30 mins for 50 epochs of 10 songs on a 3090.
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>>110156866
Interesting, I already did a testrun with ai toolkit and it completely failed. Gonna give it a try with ruach studio if WSL doesn't give me aids
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Which version of Moss should I download? Base or SFT?
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>>110156866
The music half and the sound half are trained separately for each LoRA, which is why the sound quality improves when a LoRA is loaded (AR of 1.0)
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>>110156790

> Also consult the manual: https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-H3/blob/main/docs/VIDEO_PROMPT_WRITING_GUIDE_base_en.md#43-camera-motion-motion-type--amplitude--speed

That's the interesting part: the manual gives the correct filmmaking terms for the opposite pair of movements in pairs for “zoom in / zoom out”, “push in / push out”, “pan left / pan right”, “truck left / truck right”, “tilt up / tilt down”, “pedestal up / pedestal down”, but then it gives just the term “arc shot” for the movement I wanted around the catgirl.

So I still do not know what I should have used: “clockwise / counterclockwise”? (tried that already, does not seem to work), “to our left / to our right”? (tried that in >>110156696, does not seem to work).

It also gives some terms to describe the amplitude, but they are relative (“with small amplitude” and “with large amplitude”). Does that mean that MiniMax H3 does not really even try to follow the exact given number of degrees?

Have anyone else tried an arc shot in MiniMax H3? — and how did that work for you?

I've also noticed in the list of https://neta.art/use-cases/en/h3-1000-prompt-list an example https://huggingface.co/datasets/ostris/minimax_h3_1k/raw/main/000023.txt that uses the term “The camera rolls clockwise with small amplitude at fast speed” and never an “arc shot”. I might try exactly that “camera rolls clockwise” in my next prompt.
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>>110157002
"Camera ___" where the blank is the direction.
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>>110157096
Wtf is happening here?
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>>110157007
So "camera from below" would work?
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>>110157102
Jack...I ate too much corndogs....
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>>110157111
It's up/down/left/right. You're using filmography directions.
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Thoughts on Qwen 2.1?
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>>110157153

>>110157153

>>110157153
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>>110157102
we ridin with biden
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What went wrong with Flux 3?
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>>110155151
This is simply not true.
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>>110155546
huh?
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>>110155565
why turbo over base?
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>>110154138
fuck off
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>>110154501
good, youre dumb ani
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>>110154707
no
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>>110156696
Aren't you meant to generate h3 prompts from an LLM?
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>>110157261
No. Just learn how to write a structured prompt.
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Confused by vae-small. Does it make any difference?
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