Guys ani is back maybe we can leave the cumfart bullshit behind soon :D

>>110144083
does anyone know if this is true? is ani here, are we getting a new model soon?

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>>110144892

oc donut steel

>>110144124
Not sure if you're a zoomer, but I think you're putting a lot of your own hype into this. We really aren't that impressive. Ani and Catjak are just normal people, nothing special.

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>>110144914 >>110145115

>>110144751
>these ojii-sans are really cool, they do all kinds of tech projects
cute as fuck

>>110144661
Cute

>>110144875

cute young girl that gets interested in AI gens meets a depressed jaded 35yo who makes a living selling character specific loras and models on Fiverr and she thinks everything is super cool but he just thinks she's overhyping everything for some shady foid reason

>>110144892

thanks!

>>110144914
She's after his GPU's for sure
She might not even be a girl

>>110144969

Number 1 is a very scary possibility
Number 2 is workable

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>>110145179

>>110144875

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>>110145230

>>110145115
evil krea2 workflow that removes artstyle and incest from images?

>>110145179
Why would anyone want to do that
But I just segs-detailed the face
https://litter.catbox.moe/gh6ztdjjycv7l6l6.png

Everything is so stagnant...

is julien here? i have a question

I love ani

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>>110148567 >>110150157 >>110151034

I swear I'm a lolicon guys

>>110146773
Surprisingly nice take on Kitty.

>>110148238
Slopbro...

>>110143399
mossbros?

What if everyone pooled up their compute to train a new model like it was crypto mining or folding@home

>>110148780
>What if everyone pooled up their compute to train a new model
Like Kobold Horde? Finetuner greed is a thing.

Last thread realized that we have knowledge but no fresh energy.
We need newfags who want to learn the art of anime diffusion so the rest of us can pass on what we know to them and feel productive.

>>110149546
The community is dying, in the SDXL days we only had one model and that was what people focused on improving. Now we have 3 or 4 mediocre models, no ones renting out GPU clusters to fine tune them, even tho they are better than what we had with SDXL.

This>>110149696
>>110149546
Listen anon, the hard earned knowledge and techniques our generation built up (ControlNet, inpainting, LoRAs, img2img, artist tag CLIP weighting) doesn't carry over or matter in this new post SDXL era. Newfags would rather just reroll the seed than learn the craft.
Guess we have to retreat to /jp/ and keep our ancient craftsmanship alive there.

I'm working on a fully-automated anime bdrip to captioned dataset pipeline. It'll monitor my qbittorrent download dir for new shows and start processing automatically. I'll never have enough GPU for fine tuning but I can at least make datasets.
Whoever was whining last thread about me "wasting" my resources what exactly did you want me to do with anima? I don't use anima but I'm open to hearing you out if you're sincere about it. Tell me why I should focus on anima if moss-image does their own anime finetune.

>>110148780
That would work if everyone had at least 32GB. In other words, it won't work.

>>110149929
Would you do that with my favourite artists for a virtual kiss and hug?

>>110149993
Of course I would. What is it? I'll make it the next one, so long as there's seeders on nyaa.si.

>>110150031
Oh yeah my shits range banned on ISP and local cell tower if I don't respond that's why, I'm out doing stuff and got a non-banned tower.

>>110148238
horse

>>110150031
Oh nevermind, you ment exclusively for animes and not manga artists

>>110145819
good masamune

>>110150349
nice prompting

>>110150349
exceptional
>>110150476
naughty

>>110149929
Holy schizo workflow I LOVE IT

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>>110150942

>>110149929
What do you use to caption with? I still use WD large in my workflows

>>110149929
You are wasting your time

>>110149696
Anima is a large improvement over SDXL at almost everything. And it is gradually replacing SDXL, it seems like. The problem is that half the community decided practically on day 1 that Anima is a DoA untrainable dead-end model made by an incompetent dev and also a grift and also it's actually worse than SDXL just trust me bro. And they have been desperately rooting for the model to fail ever since. The hate against this model is very weird and I don't get it.

Okay, I have distinguished three kinds of botting:

NAI shill circular posting
Ani-Catack related comments
Illustrious shills (yeah, stupid as it sounds)

Do not interact with them.

Thanks

>>110150724
People were also shitting on IL like all the time.

>>110150691
nice shaman elf

>>110150772
>stupid as it sounds
is it because it has controlnet? or tangible token weighting system? inpainting and adetailer work as intended? lmao you are making a clown of yourself.

>>110150946
good models dont need all these coping mechanisms

>>110150946
>names a bunch of creative and highly flexible tools that allow you to create absolutely any anime image you can think of if you're willing to put in the work
Yeah but like, when I put in words into the word box it doesn't do it as good as anima. And since I'm a anima-era baby I never even knew there was another way

I'm out of the loop. Is either Anima or Krea2 the superior one now, or do they have particular use cases?

>>110150966
I have a joke for you. What do you call an inefficient, bloated, non intuitive regional prompt?
>how
Bbox

>>110150992
usecase for bbox instead of just saying where something is?

>110150946
.... and yet, other /adt/ thread and still no illustrious gens in sight.
You are the clown here.

>>110151002
Using nodes 2.0 :^)

>>110150980
and where are these images that are only possible to do with all these tools?

>>110148238
>>110151010

I used Illustrious. It's software, not a football team. Use what suits you and if someone uses something that you consider inefficient isn't that in your advantage? Why would you tip him off on the good stuff?

>>110150946
All those things I never used with IL.

>>110151039
Catbox?

>>110151034
>isn't that in your advantage?
image genning isn't a competition, you get no advantage out of being "better" than someone else.

>>110150946
Feels surreal that neither ComfyUI nor Forge have fixed their inpainting problem. Seriously, what's going on? are they never going to add proper layer support to their UIs? Have people become so slopped that they settle for a single inpaint pass instead of building a layered result that combines the best regions from each seed? It's baffling that this still isn't standard.

>>110151051

then why are you guys arguing about the best image generator like it's a competition?

>>110151049
just use your brain

>>110151041
Well yeah, there were tons of people posting worthless slop during the IL era, most people weren't using those tools. You don't need them to just post 1girls in a random pose with a 1 color background

and NAI is still the best anyways lol

>>110151066
>1girls in a random pose with a 1 color background
looking at op, these times are still not over

>>110151126

yeah no shit I got into this because I wanted to make cute girls, im not expecting to be the picasso of gens

>>110151141
don't worry bro I get you.

It is impossible to spend a few minutes on civitai browsing loras and models without feeling at least a little disgusted at the human race.

>>110151126
Better models don't make people more creative, the entire point was that 99.9% of gens currently posted could've been done with sdxl even if it took a little bit more effort, I'd go as far and claim that before the release of anima/krea the post quality was drastically higher since you could immediately tell when people knew how to use those tools and made some both technically and visually impressive images
>>110151207
no

>>110151207

I find it hilarously stupid the distinction between .com and .red. We live in such a gay tranny ass world these days

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>>110152090 >>110153976 >>110153987

->watching reincarnated as a slime season 4
->oh no they killed the tomboy
-> ehemmm, achtually she's not dead, she traveled to the past
->ehemmm, achtually she's now sharing a body with the loli prodigy who is am alter ego of herself in the future

It's so boring when a show solves a plot problem by introducing time travel out of nowhere.

>>110151213
Sdxl needs too much tardwrangling and constantly shits itself when doing more than 1girl on easy background

>>110151126
thats because the op no longer includes all images from the past thread since it was hijacked by a troll

>>110151443
yeah it was really important for OP to include ani and anistudio

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moss edit prompted style change experiment

for some reason my ISP is range-banned on /e/ so I'm posting this here
https://files.catbox.moe/vwi9hy.jpg

Can some kind anon generate a 256x256 image of a mid budget 90s anime tv series tileable dungeon wall as used in the background of these shows?

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>>110151911

>>110151718
Tileable would be the challenging part, I doubt anything but possibly the big LLM models would be smart enough for that, so you might as well just ask ChatGPT yourself

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>>110152090 >>110152939

>>110151718
>>110151878
Also /tg/ has a sloppa general so you might want to try asking them since that's kind of in their wheelhouse

>>110151305
Woa
>>110151233
Time travel it's a a cheat code to skip problems the writer didn't want to solve
>>110151911
>/tg/
Neat, name?

i heckin love downloading a series about a slime only for it to become a human by chapter 3

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>>110152643

>>110152090
/slop/

>>110152140
Horrendous thread, why are you recommending it? All the images are photorealistic GPT image slop made by the same person. Is this thread being raided or something, some shitposter spamming it?

>>110152643
Can you not read? He stated the reason for recommending it.

>>110151911
>>110152836
The only thing I can see remotely related is the association of tabletop games with tiles. >>110152643 is right, that thread is just a titular chatgpt slop dumping ground.

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baggy shirt makes it harder to see if the arms genned properly or not

>>110143399
Another same stupid thread
With the same stupid avatarfags
Talking the same stupid topics
Posting the same stupid images

>>110151233
you should read the novels. its p clear he didnt have a plan for much of anything.

>>110151233
>show solves a plot problem by introducing *insert bullshit* out of nowhere.

typical anime plot point

>>110153966
>>110153987
Why do you even post here if you don't like anime?
This is /acg/ - anime coloring general

/pfg/ - painterly fag general

Krea 2 LoRA for sadistic face anime girls??

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>>110154171 >>110154177 >>110154181 >>110154289 >>110154318

>>110154147
Wait a xouple of month for Krea3 will be Open Source and will be better quality than MOSSanime

>>110154158
Wow great thanks man guess I'll just wait a couple months!! Retard.

>>110154158
Oh nice, did they specify what text encoder or VAE they areusing? (Please let it be the Flux 2 one)

>>110154158
anons already tried krea3 on the API and it was shit

>>110154171
Np anon, patience pays off ^^
>>110154177
I just repost from reddit to lower the morale of 4trooners ^^

>>110154181
Krea 3 can edit and also maybe —just maybe, better and more style adherence with loras

>>110154216
Meanie

>>110154171
You're the retarded one if you need something that even SDXL can already do in the adetailer pass at 0.4 denoise

>>110154158
two more weeks

>>110154274
Tell me why you need a better model than Anima.

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>>110154158
>thank you, kind sir

>110154262
still no sdxl gens itt, why do you keep clowning yourself? we are laughing at you

the good sdxl genners arent posting on 4channel lol theyre making money on patreon

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>>110154147
Kouta Hirano

>>110149929
> "wasting" my resources what exactly did you want me to do with anima
My behavior isn't episodic. Sometimes what I post is me voicing what I imagine other people would say.

>>110151305
I like this.

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>>110156122 >>110158001

Dress Senoo Aiko LoRA!

anyone know any online and free services that I could use to separate a character from the background?

>>110155377
Yeahhttps://huggingface.co/spaces/not-lain/background-removal

do we have anima 2 or mossanime yet?

>>110155654
Nah,

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>>110155686
Thanks anon

>>110155651
thanks, it's too bad it doesn't give me the background without the character but I can just use the the character as a mask in photoshop to get just the bg

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>>110155720

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>>110155720
!

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>>110155803 >>110157812

I wanna lick her up bros

>>110155787
Slopbro...

what model yall using for video?

>>110155823
Minimax

i liked the cunfy images more

>>110155803

what's the matter, slopbro...

>>110155823

Me, Minimax H3

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>>110156091 >>110157812

>>110155823
Minimax

>>110155990
6000?

>>110155163
very nice anon. what base model? process?

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>>110157682 >>110157812

I love when I get random shit like this every now and then, gotta love computers

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>>110156454 >>110157674 >>110157843 >>110158001

>>110156122
I trained on the Flax plantmilk Illustrious checkpoint using Ostris and using gpt-sol-6.1 to set it up and tag, crop and curate the screenshots I took from the show.
That pic in particular was generated at 1600x1024, then run through a hand detailer and 4xanime upscaler with a slight touch up in gimp.
Here's another one, no detailers or gimping

>>110156442
*1400x1024
I also trained a Moss and Anima one, but I haven't tried Anima out yet

>>110156442
>needing gimp for a 1girl standing
kek do lolcalcows really

>>110156123
This looks like the ads you get in porn sites telling you to TRY NOT TO COOM IN 5 SECONDS SIR with a looping gif they made on some free ai site

>>110156123
>>110155990
>>110155787
AI?

>>110156442
If amateur hands shape wonders, what could NAI build?

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>>110158786

https://civitai.red/models/2896329/anima-delta-mix-38b-qwen-06b

>>110155163
>>110156442
Are you grounding the tags for GPT 6.1 Sol? I'm already building a vibecode workflow with Gemini Flash 3.8 (SFW) because it already knows the characters without grounding, but even so, ground the outfit, appareance and style anyway so it doesn't give you 200 different synonyms for the same thing.

>>110157984
Their dataset is apparently "curated", inpaint haloed, SDXL gens.
>>110158001
So what is left for Gemma to do, then?

>>110157984
and you think your IL gen is better?

do we have something like animadex for moss?

>>110154247
OK that's a nice Cirno.

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>>110158066
Absolutely, unlike the gacha slop with generic corporate styles I see incels go crazy for these days. The acquired taste of good manga and hentai artists? Lost to the influx of third worlders gooning to mobile games.

>>110153966

> Another same stupid thread
> With the same stupid avatarfags
> Talking the same stupid topics
> Posting the same stupid images

You have totally missed your chance to add “…and with the same stupid number!” despite both >>110126334 and >>110143399 being “/adt/ - Anime Diffusion Thread #154”.

>>110158089
Moss is overhyped garbage, right now both its base and SFT versions underperform compared to Krea 2 or Anima.
The hype has a narrow origin which is realism NSFW users and doesn't generalize to anime users. who keeps using Anima or Krea 2.

>>110158001
it sort of just ran with my "I'd like to train a character LoRA for Moss", I didn't even think about grounding or selecting the trigger(s), it just ran with it, cropped, curated and when I looked it over seemed reasonable. There are 2 outfit variants the pinafore over shirt, and the long sleeve jacket. There was an issue with hair and ribbon color being off early on, but was fixed.
I'll have to look over the captioning to double check, but it seemed to use fairly natural language summaries instead of grounded tag lists. I'll probably redo it with tag lists

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>>110158432
True, and I see a lot of vultures making anime fine tunes on civitai already. Which for the most part will be used for a grand total of 30 mins by its users, before dropping it in favour of a slightly newer finetune, until a better model eventually drops, repeating this cycle of mediocrity.

>>110158719
Gigantic Reimu or tiny torii?

>>110157923
So in plain terms is Anima 2.9B/3.8B even worth the extra time? What's supposed to be advantage, exactly?

>>110158786
I was wondering the same thing. Haven't gone the extra mile to set up genning with it quite yet.

>>110158786
More time between gens to reflect on how local is dead

>>110143399
What is the chance of online AI anime imagegen services like NovelAI going down in future? I'm seeing lots of talk about the bubble bursting, imagegen being regulated or banned in future due to its effects on human employment, data centers being shut down and lots of other negativity but I would hate to lose this. Local models just can't achieve what V4+ and Vibe Transfer can.

>>110158770
big torii cost money, please understand

>>110158842
before they go down, they'll heavily regulate which prompts are allowed.

>>110158842
As for today, NAI will never be dead beacuse it's the #1 NSFW NSFL and copyrighted illustrations image gen diffusion service.
Their llms are shit tho btw

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>>110158933

>>110158770
I'm not an artist. So I fucked up the perspective. Please understand.

>>110158905
artists fuck up the perspective all the time, anon

>>110158899
If NAI's LLM could get anywhere close to Opus 4.1 quality, it would easily be the best service out there for us AI gooners

>>110158842
A subscription can be taken away from you. Weights can't. Own your hardware and software.

>>110158944
That's what worries me. How can I do that? I'm not in the know with the technical aspect of AI. I have a pretty powerful PC but I doubt it can even come close to what NAI imagegen can produce having been trained on most of Danbooru. I just want that kind of quality, StableDiffusion and local model gens look like generic slop.

>>110158944
>Own your hardware and software.
they are trying to change this as well.

>>110158944
NAI wins by a mile in NSFL quality. I'm not really a consumer of that content myself, but I use it as a benchmark to test prompt adherence and versatility. You can't get that same level with local models. Anima, for example, is only good for NSFW.

>>110159003
>model not trained on niche fetish art can't do niche fetishes
wowie

>>110159003
>sending nsfl prompts to a server
I'm too chicken for that

>>110158959
Is this a stealth NAI shill? Dedicated localtards have been doing things NAI could never do because of the limited user input for ages. How long did it take them to implement a retarded version of CN? If the model doesn't know a character, can you train a LORA to easily remedy that shortcoming? What about an art style that wasn't available on danbooru?
If you want to do simple, mainstream slop, sure, NAI will make it a cinch. Anything more advanced though and it falls completely apart.

>>110158842
For me its being able to chose any artist I want, telling it what sex positions I want, and ending the prompt with "multiple panels/manga page/etc" and knowing it will generate pure kino, and yes, I did try out artist loras and even made myself some, its just rigid, robotic shit.

>>110159036
Well its not just that, you try to push out a complicated pose on local models, like say multiple people in front of each other, and it will fuck up proportions and body parts 99% more than NAI v5 will. (NTA btw).

>>110159059
>If you want to do simple, mainstream slop, sure, NAI will make it a cinch. Anything more advanced though and it falls completely apart.

Kek, its the other way around fellow retard

>>110159036
The selling point of local models is supposed to be that they are uncensored.

>>110159071
>why does this commercial model with hundreds of injected tokens output better results than a rawdogged prompt on local????
Gee, if only we could figure it out.

>>110159059
>If the model doesn't know a character,
don't you just need a reference image for that?

>>110159059
I'm not a shill, just a fan of what their imagegen can do compared to what I've tried locally. And like I said, my knowledge is the technical aspect is limited so something like NAI is handy though I would prefer to locally host imagegen if it could achieve the same standard. When I see something genned locally it's usually got that "slop" art style which I hate while stuff I gen doesn't look like AI. And vibe transfer is a godsend for artists who aren't in the database. That's mostly it for me.

>>110159089
It's funny that GPT image has no problem rendering painted nails on a woman in a bikini, but raw and turbo Krea 2 conveniently keeps cropping her feet out of frame in beach shots, across batches of 8, 16, even 32 seeds .
Doesn't happen wirh males btw.

>>110159127
Just tell the promt for "full body view"?

>>110159119
>When I see something genned locally it's usually got that "slop" art style
Lowest common denominator. Of course the majority of the stuff from the lower end is going to look generic. I'm not sure why you're taking this as a metric. A lot of people use local because of the lower entry barrier, entry level users largely don't know how to prompt, the most popular providers overfit their models with a generic style for ease of use for those users.
It doesn't mean that unique art styles are impossible with a local model. It just means that a lot of people who use local models start and end at a surface level. In fact, because you can train a LORA on anything and everything with a local model, the sky's the limit.

>>110159095
You're framing things wrong. Local is composed of low level, low creativity users that conform its majority, and this majority determines the features and content that will be present in local models.

NovelAI poached actual scientists, artists and manga insiders, to methodically create the best model possible. Hence it can do "fucked up fetishes", since thats where the money is. Local is just a bunch of virgin kids gooning to gacha girls in generic poses.

>>110159163
OK, now I know you're a shill. You didn't need to drive it home that hard.

>>110159163
Ment for >>110159036

>>110159180
I am like 90% sure that those "shills" are just trolls. There's literally no reason to make posts like this unless you want to make people bitter and angry about NAI and lash out at some random poster. No actual paid shills would pay attention to a dying general with 15 posters.

>>110159162
I haven't really seen much local stuff that wows me or seems like real art like my gens come off. I don't want to seem like a shill or like someone against local models, I would love to switch to local if it can produce the things that I value like not looking "sloppy", up to 5 characters in a scene, the exact artstyle I want without any trace of that generic style, and non-stiff poses. The possibility of NAI closing scares me so I would prefer to be secure and host it on my PC, but I can't risk the qualities I'm looking for. If I can be assured of that I will happily make the switch.

>>110159180
Not really, just change the words "local" for "linux" and will start making sense.

>>110159197
I actually am bitter too, since I have to pay novelai astronomical amounts (25 bucks is just a preview resolution buddy) instead of using the 5090 I got at home.

>>110159199
all the patreon sloppers are using nai you mong.

>>110159199
>I haven't really seen much local stuff that wows me
It's less visible than what you would naturally encounter for example by looking at Civitai, but it does exist.
>The possibility of NAI closing scares me
>I would prefer to be secure and host it on my PC
Look, rancor and ribbing aside. NAI is a commercial platform with a shit ton of behind the scenes enhancements beyond the user's control to ensure passable results. This ensures the end user gets their money's worth regardless of their skill level. That's how they make their service attractive.
Local models are a rawer deal. You can get NAI-level results out of them, but it requires a skill set and know-how and methodology that NAI handles for you sever-side. There is a learning curve, and it is a different one than that involved in using NAI. But in terms of capability, quality and such, it's the same technology. You just need to take the reins into your own hands when it runs on your machine.

I am shocked anon thinks anything from nai doesn't look like the same low effort slop as everyone else.

>>110159271
You might get that impression if you compare curated NAI promo images to dime-a-dozen buzz spammers' dumps from Civit.

>>110158987
I am the Catbox police
Post catbox or you will be arrested

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>>110159454 >>110159583

>>110159264
In that case, is there anywhere you could recommend me to start with looking into making local gens? I assume StableDiffusion with PonyXL would be the way to go?
>>110159271
Yeah I'm not saying it's perfect but this is a rushed example of the kind of quality I'm looking for. Something that can handle a few characters, a background, some decently dynamic poses/angles and an artstyle like that of real artists.

>>110159264
>But in terms of capability, quality and such, it's the same technology.
Audible laugh

>>110159383
>StableDiffusion with PonyXL
And now your opinion makes sense. No, right now we've got Illustrious (2 years old, tags only) and Anima (2026, tags + natural language) on the lower end. There are a few models on the higher end, but they're largely realism-focused. MOSS is the new kid on the block, weeks old, so it's not very well explored yet. The go-to interfaces are ComfyUI and forge-neo. Fair warning, it is a whole rabbit hole, so be ready to do your research.
>this is a rushed example of the kind of quality I'm looking for
Well at least you're keeping your expectations low, I guess.

>>110159411
A noise diffuser with an LLM encoder is a noise diffuser with an LLM encoder. You can argue about the level of sophistication, parameters, training data and what have you, but NAI doesn't have some magical esoteric tech at its disposal. They're running a diffusion model, same as everyone else.

>>110159454
That nigga is using V4.5 to generate 2hu's, not the best example of nai's capabilities, still better than anima or whatever u rec'd him tho.

>>110159454
Thanks.
>>110159483
It's V5.

>>110159483
Rather, I'm surprised that there are so many generation artefacts. If a localbro showed me this gen, I'd knock him over the head and tell him to fix his fucking samplers, because there's clearly something gone terribly wrong.

>>110159480
You just anwsered yourself, nai has a 32 channel vae, 15B+ parameters and a competent dataset behind it. That's its magic, and local doesnt have it.

>>110159507
His tohu is dogshit, but still far surpasses anything you'll do locally to rebut him.

>>110159531
>>110159483
You're trying a little too hard, and I'm far too brand-blind to fall for it anyway. Use case > tribalism, always.

shilling me softly with this song

>>110159383
by the way, 2hufags have their own general with much more helpful regulars on the jay, so feel free to visit us some time

>>110159544
In truth you are right, nothing is achieved by bickering here, the day NAI v5 becomes local I will jump ship immediately.

>>110159644
Yeah, running a model of NAI's size locally with the ability to fine tune it to my needs would be pretty great, even as a pure curiosity thing. Unfortunately, it is what it is.

>>110159583
Thanks. I used to gen stuff there for anons way back when V3 was the best model.

>>110159661
I just want to bring awareness, like now the community is busy training MOSS. Why bother with a 5B model? And clearly Krea 2 and MOSS trade blows when it comes to shortcommings, one is more creative, the other too rigid.

I just now that at the end of this fine tuning journey, MOSS will still underperform compared to NAI, so it should be skipped entirely

but will there come a time within the next few years when local can have the same capabilities and rival v5?

I miss ani's dev posting
Like what is he working on rn? Super excited for a proper desktop app instead of being forced to use this pythong bullshit

>>110159688
>it should be skipped entirely
In favor of what?

>>110159915
A model made from the ground up for anime? Not a random students university project, thats for sure.

>>110159291
I only have the prompt
will that be good enough, officer?

We are going in circles and not helping /adt/ with this kind of trolling.
Local anime is stagnant for reasons outside anyone's control, so the blame and repeated arguments are pointless.

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>>110160790

guess who just found a new generic idol design

>>110160765
Cute and SaaSy

>mfw too talented to be local, too poor to pay for nai, not skilled enough to be an artist.
Feels bad, man.

>>110160823
What is the difference between nai and local? It all looks like the same slop

>>110160823
you're meming but wouldn't "talent" be local to do it correctly? while nai gives you the setup (still waiting on ref for V5)

>>110160971
Just cook up the type of prompt that would never work on local, and it will work.

>>110160657
Claudefag's having another manic episode, it will pass.

>>110160823
>too talented to be local
This doesn't make any sense.

>>110160657
I really hope ani will do a proper anime finetune of moss
Ourguy is really talented in many ways

>>110161281
I think noobai might do a tune tho, from what i heard moss is really popular on their discord

>>110161565
Must suck to be noobai, they invested so much effort and money into SDXL and its completely obsoleted now.

>>110161592
whatever you invest into now will be a joke in 5 years. Can't be helped.

>>110161592
sdxl got mogged by anima and now it gets mogged by moss as well.

>>110161601
I didn't realize that, I am not an intelligent person.

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>>110161683 >>110161693 >>110161701 >>110161731 >>110162277

https://civitai.red/models/3006800/krea2-anime-style
local models still have a lot

>>110161670
....of slop

>>110161670
Sex where?

>>110161670
Kill yourself iseakifag.

>>110161693
In my van, you are welcome to get in.

>>110161670
looks pretty cool

>>110161693
Look up the NSFW loras/checks in civitai

>>110161693
wait, it won't do nsfw?

>>110162033
>>110161764

>>110162143
I'm a bit sceptical if a lora is needed for such a basic but broad thing. Please forgive me.

>>110162164
It's because krea 2 is censored, that's why it hasn't gotten any serious anime tune.

>>110162181
wouldn't that conflict with other style loras like >>110161670 if you need one for nsfw on top of it? Or is there a go to nsfw anime lora?

>>110162277
Usually stacking multiple loras has issues.

>>110162277
No, the simple ones are just ~30 MB files that cancel out certain nanny scripts

>>110162342
so, they won't effect the style of the image?

>>110162361
Nope. How even could they?

>>110162378
dunno, but the loras I know usually did just that.
Might have to figure out what I need to try this krea2.

Any MOSS demo of +3 copyrighted anime girls at the beachwithout appareance bleeding with all her finger and toes?

if you want to gen smut don't use krea. you're getting trolled. use anima or noob to make anima porn. everything else is pozzed. once the moss booru finetune or kroma are out, there might be something else but anything that wasn't trained on booru is worthless, lora will not fix

>>110162469
No, it needs more training TM.

>>110162485
Okay, so it fails at simple sfw task, but it does nsfw right? How about a rape scene, can you catbox it?

>>110162501
It does not do rape scenes, but normal sex scenes, needs more training TM for that.

>>110162510
Okay, how about realism? that model was trained for realism.

>>110162541
It does not do well in realism, and does a worse job than ZiT. It was not the main training focus.

>>110162556
Okay, it's strength is anime, does it know booru artists?

>>110162577
Not so well, when i mention an artist, the image seems to change style, but it hallucinates the style it changes to.

>>110162599
Okay thanks, MOSS is a great base model.

>>110162677
Take her shoes tho, tak her shoes THO

>>110162469
see
>>110158707

>>110162677
skeleton body type

>>110162556
LMAO based, finally not a model strictly focused on photoreal slop

>>110162974
But neither striclty focused on anime

>>110163116
but strictly focused on slop

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>>110163977 >>110165962 >>110165977

So after the Slime isekai I watched the Spider isekai and I really liked it. The bad thing is that it only got one season and the last 3 episodes felt rushed and went a bit schizo by the end but I think that was because of the rush. It's a shame, the plot has potential it handles the stakes better than Slime, and the characters have room to grow. I would love a director's cut or remaster that fixes the ending and focuses more on character development. But it's a 2021 series so I doubt we will even get a season two, let alone a director's cut.

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>>110163642 >>110163977

A positive review for Moss

https://civitai.red/articles/37406/moss-image-has-hidden-potential-what-a-2048px-lora-unlocked

>>110162974
Actually come to think of it, photorealism and local LLM bros are eating, I mean it might not be as good as Claude, but they got gemma. What do us local anime fags have? Chenkin and noobai blew their load to fast with sdxl.

>>110163392
I am also a local anime fag and I agree with you, we are such cucks

>>110157682

Yeah, maybe I should shift to that niche

>>110157812

what are you saying man? I (me as in myself) made it

>>110163382
>log in to continue
can you leave a negative review of civit?

>>110162277
>>110162361
De-censor loras won't. You'll be fine stacking loras on top of those.
The issue is that krea does not know artist styles or characters, you'd need 2 loras which you'll have to adjust weights for. Add on that most non-official Krea checkpoints are just merged loras on top of turbo.

>>110163382
But you use Krea and that's a good call. Krea 2 being API based and built for profit makes it a stronger model overall, unlike the lower quality output you get from MOSS, a research lab model.
>>110163266
Between you, the NAI shiller, and the anon reposting Reddit content, you three are why I keep coming back to this thread!