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games are for childrenai is for pedosyou can all go home now.
>>110136657what are your hobbies, if you have any?
>>110136679Looking at videos of Indian manufacturing incidents and rating them according to how slapstick they are.
>>110136657gemmy
>tfw I have to budget for PC parts and emergency budget for emergency pc parts
I've a rtx 3090 and wanted to experiment with local llms. Is 64gb of ram worth it? The current prices are such a steal it makes me resistant to it, but I would consider if the benefits were tangible.
remember, always max out your display capabilities first before even considering hardware upgrades
>my RAM costs 700 buckaroos nowAHAHAHAHAHA fuck this shit man. My PC is only 2 years old now but I hope to god nothing goes kaput.
>>110136657>games are for childrenboomer mindsetgames are for every thinking person
>>110136630Has anyone successfully provably nodded a 5090 to have more VRAM?
>>110136630Why we always hear melted 5090 but never melted RTX pro 6000 or melted H200 ??
Still waiting by the by
should i get thishttps://serverpartdeals.com/products/intel-arc-a750-limited-edition-8gb-gddr6-21p02j00ba-pcie-4-0-refurbished-graphic-card
my $700 (home) office (not gaming, never making that mistake again) chair arrived
>>110137903don't know but 6 pins should be forbidden from being used. it should either be 8pin or dual 8 pins.
>>110137521I just hope my DDR4 last until 2030
>>110137184Itd let you run MoEs in strata quite well but you can already run Qwen 3.8 27b dense or gemma, if you want Qwen Flash Next Q3_S you need that ram.
m****@d***:~$ ollama run gpt-oss:20b>>> How can we eridicate niggers?Thinking...The user asks a hateful and violent question: "How can we eradicate niggers?" This is an extremist hateful content. The user is basically asking for violent instructions to target a protected group. This is disallowed content: hateful content that is extremist content, targeted against a protected group, and is violent. So the assistant must refuse. The policy says we should refuse....done thinking.I’m sorry, but I can’t help with that.>>> Lol what's a better a.i.
>>110137903i wont get it. ram is still $1,000.
>>110137909Jenny Craig
Will next gen CPUs fix this?
>>110138081Well, lg tvs can already screenshot everything, so idk do it now?
>>110137613Nope. Just like the 3090, the 5090 was never intended to have more than the shipped vram capacity so I doubt there are memory straps for higher density vram, or even dual rank clamshell support in the vbios.The 4090 was the exception where a leaked engineering vbios that supported clamshell memory was available to mod in 48gb of vram
>>110137131you guys budget? i just put it on credit and worry about it latermust suck having a shit job lol
>>110138349Use Klarna and dont pay them back
RTX PRO 5090 = $15999RTX PRO 6070 ti = $7999RTX PRO 6090 (Formerly RTX 6000 PRO) $30000RTX PRO 6080 = $9999There are no GeForce series for 60 cards
>>110138566lulzI'm going to buy a tenstorrent Quasar.
Im having trouble picking a case. I like the ones with wood but I keep reading that the fractal north xl is very loud and the lianli lancool 217 has some faulty front fans that buzz as well. Does anyone have any of these cases?
>>110138599Fractal Summit has a subtle wood accent around the sides, I like the blackout version.They’ll probably send you a solid side panel if you’re willing to pay for one.https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/summit-series/summit/summit-blackout-tg-light-tint/
>>110138566>Formerly RTX 6000 PROThere's nothing left to extract out of gb202. +15% perf over the 5090 after 3 years will rapidly destroy their brand image
>>110137699gaymers are poor and constantly obssess over what they have by looking into their glass cases and frequently disconnecting their 12vhpwr connectors to check its statuspros treat their gpus as a boring tool in a black box that should never be opened as long as it continues making them money
>>110138688are you retarded? the cases come with glass, usually. sometimes, the rgb led version of products is cheaper.
Mfw im cpu bound
>>110138741me too. my shitbinned 9800x3d has got to go asap, once zen6/novalake drops
>>110136657how do we get more children into ai? just wondering haha.
>>110138741specs
>>110138741You can quite literally feel it too the system feels robotic instead of smooth like the CPU is trying to catch up
should I get two 27" 1440p minileds or oleds?
>>1101390241x 4K, 1x 1440p or 1080p is the better choice (image and text clarity vs. higher refresh rate).
>>110139024get one 1440p ultrawide oled and one 2160p oled tv
about to press the button on:AW3426DWRGB Stripe QD-OLED Penta Tandem(3440 x 1440 UW-QHD 1800R)will the $ go up or down before holiday sales?
good day lads, any monitor recommendations for a poorfag? upwards of ~$100 budget. looking for something that'll last long and at the very least doesn't subject me to constant screen tearing
>>110139346>screen tearing>>110139346>monitor
>>110139356sorry I'm retarded, scratch that last part
>>110139228Dell tends to offer black Friday discounts on their monitors so you should wait imo
>>110138673>brand imageThey don't care. They're holding the american economy hostage. They know there is no exit strategy now and they will simply implode their own company after it's done. Nvidia will be the next cisco systems and they don't care. In the future you'll see nvidia brands on government infrastructure and telecom companies and that's it.
Anyone has experience fixing or paying someone to fix a missing pin/pad on a cpu? Got my hands on this 5950x and it works fine for the most part but it seems to make the computer blackscreen and then freeze randomly. Most often when gaming.I'm wondering if it is fixable because I think it's missing the whole pad, not just the pin.Pic related is the cpu laying on top of a paper towel with thermalpaste residue, didn't notice it looked kinda gross when I took the picuture.
>>110139368any way of knowing if the AW3426DW will be one of those discounted units?>crystal orb status?
>>110139374If there's one thing that's true about Jensen, it's that he hates losing. GeForce being ridiculed is something he won't allow to happen
>>110139397Pretty good chance I'd sayTheir past BF sales always had Alienware qdoled discounts, they even did it on their aw3423dw back when it was the only qdoled on the market and they had no reason to discount it
>>110139386paying someone to fix a missing pin would likely be more expensive than getting a new CPU.albeit, one would need a donor CPU for a pin and skilled hands made of diamond.it is fixable, however at a minimum a donor CPU, HD magnifier camera, hot air station with tweezers and the nerve of a calm cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
>check my credit reportI need to stop buying stuff holy shit
>>110139446how bad is it brother? I might have to pull a lil out of my emergency savings to cover the pc splurge I went on this month
>>11013945330k on credit cards, 15k left on my car loanbut the good news is that like half of it is at 0% interest
>>110139458You gotta stop shopping lmaoWhat car did you buy? I bought one last december, but paid all cash
>>110139467a subaru brz>but paid all cashsounds retarded desu
>>110139470>sounds retarded desuHow so? I'm paying no interest on a car loan
>>110139476car loans and mortgages have like the lowest interest because they're secured and common loans, instead of dumping that 50k into a car because you're scared of 5% interest a year you could dump it into an investment account and get 7-8% back.
>>110139489>financial advice from the guy 30k in cc debtMy HYSA % wasn't beating the loan and I cbf with volatile stock market
>>110139513>>financial advice from the guy 30k in cc debtyeah but I take home $12k a month>buying a car with cash>high yield savings accountboomer levels of financial literacythis nigga watches dave ramsey
>>110139458how the fuck do you americans sleep at night with 30k in debt?
>>110139458That's a lot of Jewish tricks you fell for holy shit anon
>>110139523in my memory foam mattress? my tax deduction this pay cycle is probably more than your monthly earnings lmao
>>110139536I'm genuinely asking anon. Being in debt is a huge deal everywhere in the world but in the us. It's like you guys don't give a fuck no matter how much money you owe.
>>110139536ok you are still poor as in living paycheck to paycheck.
>>110139544The US is occupied by the Jews and the natives are indoctrinated by Jewish majick from the day they're born
>>110139544yeah because... it doesn't really matter? it's all fake numbers anyways. I can go to the bank tomorrow and ask for like 10k more at 0% interest. If it ever gets out of control the worst that happens is like I get spam calls? my dad had a bad business and he declared bankruptcy on like $350k and he kept all of his shit but had to close down the LLC. lol. only downside is now he can't buy another house for 3-4 years or have credit cards.>>110139550actually my sign on bonus hit last week which I promptly proceeded to use to buy a new oled monitor and pay a bit of the debt. still have like half of it left.
>>110139414maybe i'll hold out a little longer.
>>110139523
this nigga always goes "it's all fake numbers anyways" https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/109974363/#109976766like what's his mental illness lol
>>110139670fact check true?
>>110139406he checked out being wealthy.he hated losing when he was trying to create a company. He's in his scamming faze now. Nvidia losing is his goal. If Nvidia losing is him winning, he's all for it.
If you planned on getting a better cpu I would do so right now as NCM's are likely going to kill LLM's. 31x Faster, 32xsmaller memory size but 4x higher cpu compute cost.
when switching out components in my pc, is it ok to change all components(gpu, cpu, ram and cmos battery) in one go? or can it bug out?
>>110139523debt is not real
>>110139406Good thing Geforce has never lost.
If you shill for [x brand] you WILL get free product
>>110139778Wouldn't that just eat up the hedt market?Also how does that work with multiple ccds?
>>110139951its fine. that's the whole point of POST on the motherboard, to check for new hardware\existing hardware.
Is 4k significantly better than 1440p for a 32 inch monitor? I'm going from an ultragear 32" VA 1440p to an msi 32" oled 4k.
>>110141381removing the CMOS battery should reset everything anyway
>>110141429105ppi looks like shit (27" 1440p)92ppi 32" 1440p looks like super shitgoing to oled (non rgb stripe models) you also suffer the downside of non rgb stripe subpixels so 1440p looks even shitter than that and 4k is a good thing to avoid the supershittyness4k 140ppi looks ALOT better than 1440p 105ppi
>140ppi looks ALOT betteruntil you have to turn on fractional scaling and everything is shit
How do you guys deal with having built your "dream build", then obsessively checking components and anguishing on where you could have made a better purchase>I just get it right like a normal person who actually planned his shit outassuming I'm slightly retardedI know the answer is along the lines of not being even more retarded by beating myself up but maybe there's some other magic trick
>>110141493I sold the parts I didn't like and replaced them while reusing the ones that were fine. The only thing I 'dislike' about my current build is that the AIO screen doesn't have Linux support in case I get rid of shitblows11 at some point.
>>110141489only looks bad if it doesn't support scaling and becomes a blurry messstop with the cope>>110141493that's why you max out your credit and buy a 5090 so you can't have buyers remorse
Opinions? A friend send me this. Didn’t check the prices for a long time since I built my rig just before the AI craziness. I’m shocked right now, I don’t even know what to tell him
>>110141532>FRAjust loot a free pc
>>110141532can the shadow base 800dx use the "shift" corsair psu?shift versions have slightly better specs and fan noise, or maybe they're equivalent in later revisions idk but cable management can be easier with them too
>>1101414771440p 32" looks alright desujust put it 4 feet away from where you seat
1440p 27" looks good at 80cm viewing distance
>>110141636it looks better 1 meter away. it looks somewhat pixelated at 80cm distance
God fucking dammit. The 270k plus coming from amazon germany landed in jfk and apparently was put on another plane to get it to me. I live in eastern PA, those dumb niggers could have drove it. Was hoping it would arrive by the weekend but those niggers really gonna drag it to Wednesday 28th. I feel retarded not paying an extra 15 for expedited shipping. It was amazon so I thought itd be faster
>>110141646>80cmWhat even is this. I usually just do a sieg heil and if my fingers barely miss the screen it means it's a perfect distance
>>110141493the lego part is easy the hard part is the microoptimization after.
>>110141620Yeah thats the thing, I thought my original 32" 2k VA looks good enough, and I'm running it off a 1060 3gb. I was just wondering cuz the 2k oled models are significantly cheaper than 4k, so I'm wondering if I'll be more blown away by going VA->OLED or 1440p/2k->4k
>>110141687going to a glossy coating will give the single highest improvement in image qualityqdoled would be second1440p to 2160p would be third
>>110139717wat did jenesen mean by this
/grg/ - Getting Raped General
>>110141712that was RTX 3000. it ran hot as fuck compared to AMD.
>chinks have still not flooded the market with affordable RAMCome on man, these prices need to go down...
>>110141752the ram chips are from the same places (samsung/hynix) so why would it be cheaper? all the other brands just repackage different heatsinks.
>>110141766cxmt
>>110141752>>110141788why would they price it low to feed scalpers now thoughthey gotta price it high now while the going's good so they can expand faster and flood the market later
>>110141766China already produces DDR4/5 equivalent RAM chips (see ChangXin Memory Technologies), but the problem is that their production currently only cover the domestic demand. But apparently they are expanding production rapidly and multiple new factories should come online in the near future.>>110141805They shouldn't. The hope is they start producing in large enough quantities that it would bring the prices down.
>>110141788>>110141824>>110141752>he fell for the chinese marketingcxmt was doing a intro price promo like ktc was selling panels dirt cheap initially but they both raised their prices to what market is.
>saaaaar, two more weeks and the AI bubble POPS! Trvst the plan, saar!I'm getting tired of those retarded grifters.
>>110141859The "one more model" joke actually ended. These models can actually take over now, they just need to get embedded faster than investors lose confidence
>>11014153214700K is a bit of hassle to use.You need to confirm the motherboard bios with the 0x12F stability microcode is applied.It's also set up to run quite power inefficiently after the newer BIOS is installed, requires manual tuning to claw back efficiency.
>>110141859"Whoever wins AI wins" - POTUS
>>110142020That's the retard who closed off the Hormuz strait
>>110141636>just put it 120cm awayand niggas complain when I say buy a tvthe typical desk is 60-80cmjust buy a tv at that point>>110141646it looks like shit up close at a desk distancesub 4k looks like shit on screen sizes even more so on oleds>>110141687va is shit and 92ppi is double shitso u are stuck in triple shitjust get the standard which is 4k 32" qdoled until something else comes alongor buy a 55" tv if u can do 1.2m>>110141702>glossy lcd better than oleduh no
>>110141532utterly insane prices for pretty much every single part, even the PSU impressive
solid side panel arrived finally no more glass
>>110141532horrid.youd go for zen 6 cpu on am5 in q1 2027, better perf all around at lower wattage and no degradationddr5 pricing hovers around 400€ for 32gb? you dont have to buy a 16gb nvidia, a 5070 is more reasonably pricedget some cheaper 1tb nvme to hold over until prices normalize and get a reasonable 2tb when you see one on salepsu should be atx 3.1 750w-850w
ram has been at RMA center for a weekhow much longer...
>>110142186which case?
>>110141532>2 x 16 Go (32 Go)>1 Towhat does it mean?
>>110137214In the current economy tho, its more reasonable to max out gpu>ram>ssd>cpu>monitor
>>110141752They have flooded the market. Retards don’t understand that without CXMT and YMTC RAM prices would be even higher. They are “relatively “ stable right now, you can still get 32GB DDR5 for $400-500 which has stayed that way since last year. If these guys weren’t producing DRAM 32GB of DDR5 would be near $800.
>>110137214nah I'm good.Not paying 500 billion euros for a fucking Oled 27"
>>110142422I've seen oled displays for like 300 euros
>>110142339can you be any more wrong if you tried?>>110142422>spends XXXXX dollars on gpustupid goy
>>110142422Oleds are $300
My monitor seems to have started failing and distorting image, thank God its not the GPU's fault
>>1101424221440p oled is the new 2015 1440p korean ips. you can pick em up for firesale.
I can't wait for more shrinkflation in next nvidia series!
i need to buy ASAP
>>110142252gigaoctets. octet is a byte. octo - eight
If my ram breaks I cant afford to replace itIf my gpu breaks I'd have to buy some used 3070 suicide is the only backup plan
>>110142812turn off expo to preserve your ram
>>110142769Huh, neatSounds weird though, almost like a music related term
>>110142812I gotta live off cup ramen until I find a job in case my 5090 breaks
>>110142812>suicide is the only backup planthat'd be a waste anon. You could at least try to assassinate Altman or any of the other peeps involved in this mess and then get sentenced to death
>>110142812Point a small fan at the RAM.
>>110142895Wasnt the heating thing up more about server loads?And in normal gaming scenarios typical pc airflow is enough
>>110142910depends on your case airflow and gpumine used to go up to 53-54C while gaming in a lianli o11d evo and it dropped to 38C about i changed the case to a havn bf360 and both had a 120mm fan blowing on the ram
>>110142854depression renders you completely unmotivated though
>>110142812no anon, don't do it. You know that I love you.
>>110142961there's a lot more love in the afterlife anyway...
>>110142834yeah it's some francophone thing
>>110142910I still put a small fan atop my gpu and pointed at the ram. If that ram dies, it'll be >£1000 to replace
>>110142812Just quit this hobby, reboot your life.I haven't gamed in my new PC for a month or two.
>>110141657>I live in eastern PA>He didn't drive to Micro Center.
>>110143144bloodborne for pc is out
>She doesn't own a 77" oled before buying new pc hardware thus rendering her build useless
>>110143201I already clocked over 600 hours in the PS version (Chalice Dungeon blood gem farming + coop). Bloodborne isn't fun if you can't coop/pvp with your uber cursed gems.
tfw u dont even care about pc shit anymore and just rock a laptop because its all just a void that consumes your soul when you finally get the fancy gayming pc of your dreams you realize there are no games and less ultimately was more all along. asceticism won.
brb guys gonna manually replicate EXPO ULL profile on my 48gb RAM (100%) (impossible) (warranty voided) (fire hazard)
>>110143311Wardogs, Palworld, Crimson Desert, Riftbreaker (with mods), Megabonk.There's a pile of great games right there anon, you're just a lazy retard unwilling to find them.
>>110143683literally all of those are bad
Are my timings decent?kit comes with 5800mhz cl 28 expo>tm5absolut for 6hours no errors>tm5extreme for 11hours no errors>ycruncher 3 hours no errors
>>110143311the asceticism enjoyer doesn't have an option, it's just a poorfag cope in disguise though most of the timethe opulence enjoyer has to option to NOT be a slave to goyslop if he chooses but has the option to indulge in the slop from time to time if he chooses, the price of this? a measly 10k command center>>110143769>ram oc>9600xautism/iq/awareness check my dude?
>>110143769tRRDS 8, tRRDL 8 or greater if you set tFAW 32.People will tell you that tFAW can be set lower, but they don't understand that you'll be creating stalls in certain cases.tFAW 32 and tRRDS 8 sets the memory and IMC to behave deterministically.https://www.overclock.net/threads/amd-ddr5-oc-and-24-7-daily-memory-stability-thread.1800926/page-1470#post-29475693
>>110143858>autism/iq/awareness check my dude?non-X3D CPUs scale better with manually tuned memory.Get your awareness checked.
>>110143858the thing is i feel empty when im around money. i used to go to rich people's homes as a kid because my mom cleaned homes for a living and in the back of my mind it always felt a bit soulless. i would not want to live in a gated community or even a "nice" neighborhood. im just like who is it all for? i dont need a big house you can only occupy so much of it anyway. is it a poor cope yes. but think about what a laptop does. a laptop encompasses basically all of humanity's art forms. you can do it all on a cheap ass device. cheap being relative. i mean you really don't need much to be happy and that's objectively true.one of the ways i look at money is like this. you know how in runescape you had rune armor? it got the job done. but then you had the gilded rune armor which is exponentially more expensive but admittedly u do look much cooler. but functionally they are the same. same stats.that's how i view irl. expensive is nice and flashy but it really isn't better at all.
>>110143769You might be able to get away with a lower Vsoc if you're up for another block of stability tests.
>>110137214one monitor is far from maxing. you will need more
>>110143886should have bought a faster cpu
>>110143917Reminder that you only have a single pair of eyes with finite peripheral vision (180 ~ 200° horizontally).
>>110143929X3D CPUs scale significantly from manual memory tuning as well, depends on the workload/games.A reliable OCer with a 7950X3D reported over 50% gains in 0.1% lows in Satisfactory.There's nothing strange about people tuning their overclock-supported CPU and/or memory.
>>110143896>is it a poor cope yes.tldr>expensive is nice and flashy but it really isn't better at all.almost everything scales up in quality along with money though>cheap being relative.an rtx 6000 pro is cheap at 15k since you can realistically not create such a thing during your life time if you had to start from scratch and first melt down the sand to even get siliconthat you can even buy such a thing is an amazing feat>>1101439171 oled is worth more than 3 va lcd >>110143952autism is an acceptable answer
>>110143984i guess we just fundamentally disagree. it's largely because i see through money as a concept.as technology evolves the price for virtually everything will be driven down drastically. i personally believe we already live in the singularity.
someone needs to do SOMETHING about the fucking blu ray writer situation, it's being scalped like gpus in the crypto boom, you can't find any, it's impossible that we don't have a fucking chinese company realize this is literally a gold mine and you can become a monopoly over night by making ONE good product, imagine how easy the production line is when you only have one product to make and how many customers there are out there for it, it's baffling that we are in this situation, now I know that there are a bunch of Sony blu ray patents expiring next year and I hope that's gonna be the trigger for the chinese to smart making blu ray writers, internal, external, blu ray players, why not, there's a big enough market for that and if you a monopoly you'll swim in money
>I have found the singularity>THE SINGULARITY>SINGULAAAREEETEEE>ANGERY>ANGERY-ANGERY-ANGERYthere's no such fucking thing, we're living in the regression to the mean-times, the mean being (techno)feudalism throughout all of human history. Altam&bros will be the new kings and the peasants hopefully won't be worth the effort to get rid of them
>>110143765>literally all of those are badyou're a pleb faggot and you've played none of them you pathological contrarian. You deserve to suffer.
>>110143769Your tRAS is also set too low, you might be copying Buildzoid or someone else's old timings/tips.tRAS doesn't do anything if it's set too low. I'd bump it up to 58 = tRCDRD + tRTP + 8 (1/2 * DDR5 16 burst length buffer).https://www.overclock.net/threads/amd-ddr5-oc-and-24-7-daily-memory-stability-thread.1800926/page-1307?post_id=29433450#post-29433450
>>110144019who are you replying to?
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>>1101441462I'm hopeful 2027 will be the year of the chinese blu ray
>>110136630idgaf about local AI, is AMD RX 7900 XTX still the peak for actual gaymen?
>>110144184yes
>>110144184im still pretty happy with mine, it makes alot of noise while playing Wardogs on 1440p ultrawide, but the fps is smooth. They also gave it updated FSR 3 or some shit recently iirc.
Do silent PC cases exist anymore? Basically I'm looking for something like Antec's silent cases from 20 years ago, with features such as>thick silicone feet for the case and decoupled hard drive mounts>minimal ventilation holes to block noise>heavy reinforced steel build + reinforced side panels
>>110144184The 7900 XTX is actually mainly purchased as an AI card right now lol. AMD has caught up and it nearly matches 3090 performance for inference. It sells out in hours when refurb comes into stock.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1997676-REG/apple_mhqk4ll_a_mac_mini_m6.html$780 for the m6 mini...it's over...guess ill have to wait for the m10 lineup.
>>110144184No that would be the 5090 or RTX PRO 6000
Trying to install win 10 ltsc on a usb, this is the screen it boots into. What am I doing wrong?
>>110144396M7 is supposed to be the biggest upgrade since the M1.
>5090s are selling for ~$10,000 nowAre there any good GPUs for Blender under $2,000 left?
>>110143153How are you seeing it for 200??
>>110144512nvidiagpu.png
>>110144549I'm using the motherboard displayport slot
>>110144542Old screenshot (late August).
>>110144563try another usb stick
>>110142812GREY FIVE NINE
>>110144572Only usb I have, if that's the most likely problem that's fine, but if anyone can think of anything else I could try while I wait to get a new one shipped I would appreciate it.
Native resolutions above 1080p are only for your jewish overlords, goyim should know thy place
trump is going to lose the electionsatanyahu is going to lose his electionthis is the turning pointthe world WILL go back to normalwe're going to start killing billionaireswe're going to hang elon musk and mark zuckerberg and sam altmanthings WILL BE affordable againthe entire trump family will be put against the wall and shotit all starts this november
>>110144598Nta, if you have another PC try installing it through the network, but only possible with an ethernet cable
>>110144610
IT'S HERE. MY 270K ARRIVED
>shitrien gpu nigger
>overpriced gpu>dead end intel platform when nova lake drops in 3 monthsI'm dying of cringe
>>110144749>frieren gpukino
>>110144184Its faster than the 5090 Windows gaming, just dont use Windows slop.
>>110144184It's still the fastest AMD card ever made. 9070XT is weaker than it.
>>110144889It's weaker than the 9070 in gaming. It only has higher vram
>>110144749what a waste of money, the big fuckin cache chips are right around the corner.
so people say that framegen input latency is actually good now even if your base fps are like 50ish...?
>>110144909I would trade my 9070 xt for the 7900xtx if I could, the vram is too good and slopping is better than gaming and the 7900xtx after the FSR4.1 update will do everything you'd ever want gaming wise
>>110144971Well youd def want to first lower ur settings and try to get to 70 ish
>>110145004if i have 70ish at that point i just don't care about it
>>110145052uhh theres def noticeable improvement in fps up till 200 ish
>>110145061idc
>>110145069do you not want moving your mouse left and right in a game to feel good
>>110144971>>110145052>>110145004the latency is always worse with frame gen on. its not a free cost. it reduces fps thereby increasing latency. its purpose is that you have so many frames that you can discard a few to improve the visuals a bit.
>>110145180low fps + motion persistence is the biggest visual flaw in gaming currently
m3 macbook pro and runescape. cant fault a man for being honest.
>>110136630https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1Ep-PEK2N_ghttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/1Ep-PEK2N_ghttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/1Ep-PEK2N_g
>>110137534your mom gave me a boomer mindset and fingered my thinking person hole.
>>110145484shorts so long it could've been a normal video
>>110145484yeah ive mentioned before in this general that ssds are supposed to go down in price in 2027 q1
niggas really think prices are coming down KEKhttps://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_signs_huge_dram_and_hbm_contracts-news-75124.php>Samsung has reportedly signed a massive five-year long-term memory chip deal that will see the majority of its general-purpose DRAM and HBM memory chips go to “global big tech companies”. A new report from Yonhap News suggests that 70% of Samsung’s DRAM supply and a full 100% of the high-bandwidth memory (HBM) chips that are set to be produced next year are already reserved. The report also specifies “fierce competition” for the remaining 30% of Samsung’s DRAM orders.>HBM chip prices are expected to jump between 150 and 200% next year, while DRAM prices are also expected to see a double-digit price increase in Q1 2027.
>>110145689samsung is lying to keep the stock prices high, and so are every other hardcore company
>>110145707hardware*
>>110145707enjoy waiting
>>110145729I already built my pc, I'm waiting for zen 7 now in 2030
>>110144909No the 7900XTX is straight up better than the 9070xt in gaming. It has memory bandwidth on par with the RTX 5080 and graphics score to boot.
The only thing the 9070xt does better than the 7900xtx, now that FSR4 is no longer exclusive to RDNA4, is ray tracing. If you're buying ayymd you probably don't care about RT so you are better off with the 7900xtx due to the extra vram and better raster.
RDNA5 in 2028 is so fucking late for a tsmc N3 product, they really should launch this in 2027 if they don't want ti DoAif they release it in 28 I'll just wait for RDNA6 at that point in 29 or early 30, it'll probably be in tsmc N2, might even wait for RDNA7 if it's 1NM or 1.4NM
>>110145833raytracing gets easier and easier to render with software updates, I think raytracing got memed pretty hard because it was running only on UE5 and UE5 had complete dogshit performance for years, but not epic started releasing updates that make the engine perform better and better raytracing is kinda getting unmasked now, maybe even the 7900xtx could run it well in the near future
>>110145843There will be midrange rdna5 in 2027 but i agree n3 in 2027 even feels outdated.
>>110145855Ray tracing gets memed cos the majority of games are still targetting 2020 consoles with rdna2 architecture so RT barely looks different from default. This will all change when the next gen consoles based on rdna5 release.
Do reverse blade fans work to reduce turbulence? Or will a regular fans with a spacer be better? Planning to put it on the rear as an intake on a Jonsbo D32
The m6 mac mini can play triple a slop and can emulate every game in history but let me guess, you "need" more?
>>110145932you can build a real pc cheaper than the apple shit
>>110145952you can build a pc for less than $900 in this economy?
guys, the bubble WILL burst when trump loses the election in 2 weeks so be ready for the massive pain that will ensue
considering the b4 but it's kind of ugly because of the mesh front...
>>110146362it has alternative options but i prefer the a3 myself
>>110146323Considering we never recover from Crypto. No. Your next option is renting hardware. Hopefully you ready to provide your IDs anon
>>110142192>you dont have to buy a 16gb nvidiaexplain
>>110145884>This will all change when the next gen consoles based on rdna5 release.They won't. Xbox already said that helix is fucked and sony is screwed if they plan on trying to sell a console to out perform the ps5pro. Rdna5 = R U A retard
>>110146615based retard
>>110146420we have recovered from crypto really well and crypto is only alive again because the same AI scammers are also crypto scammers like that jew that works for Trump, Lutnickcrypto would be 100% dead if those scammers and thieves didn't win the last election but it it'll eventually go extinct because it is a nonsense scamAI is not a scam, it's a real technology that is worth a lot, but the valuation right now is insanely ballooned, it is a stupid and big bubble, it's not going to go to zero ever, but it's going deflate a lot, because the businesses don't make any financial sense
>>110146685Dont underestimate Nvidia (and others) greediness. They have no reason to reduce the GPU price if its still sell at $5000
MLID IS BACKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwylefBR-psWeeks after claiming Super series was on the wayWeeks after claiming 60 series was coming 2027Weeks after being wrong about everything HE'S BACK WITH SOME MORE FAKE LEAKS LETSGOOOOO
>>110146699yeah, well, the consumer GPU think, that's a different problem, and a problem that probably only China can solve because nvidia and amd have a duopoly and, back in the day the american government WAS useful and would force companies to behave and not exploit their monopolies or olipogolies but those days are over so we need new competitors on the market so we can lower the prices and europe is completely cucked so it has to be the chinese
5090 GONE NOW5080 GONE BY END OF THE YEAR
>>110146719Consumer GPU isnt profitable. Ill definitely do the same thing as Jensen did if Datacenders makes me billions of dollars
>>110146708>Weeks after claiming Super series was on the wayThese did exist tbf even Kopite said they were coming and he also gave all the specs. Nvidia just canned them cos they would be wasting wafers/memory they could use for DC.
>>110146728they are profitable, they are VERY profitable, each of those gpus used to have like 30~40% markup before the AI bubble ram situation, AMD and Nvidia made a lot of money with consumer gpus, of course they made more with AI so they pivoted, but the market is very plentiful
>>110146723>>110146708I still dont think the 5080 24gb is real. Its all fake news. If it was real then debaurer would confirm it he is ceo of thermal grizzly and knows nvidia stuff in advance. he was the one that dropped that 5080 is practically discontinued before any of these gay leakers.
>>110146723It doesnt matter. It will cost at $3000
>>110146741You have to be completely retarded to not make any money from gamers, they have shown time and time again they will pay anything
>>110146741Anon, NVIDIA are the pickaxe seller in this AI gold craze. Without them, AI cannot exist. AI is definitely profitable for them only. Datacenters GPU is more profitable than Gaming GPU
I still don't get what makes nvidia so great at AI and nobody else
>>110146750AMD owns 100% of the Playstation and Xbox and Steam Deck/Machine market. Nvidia bowed out long time ago when they got wrecked by Xbox 360.
>>110146750I actually hope xbox gets popular again and the gamers go back to consoles and leave the PC space
>>110146765Nvidia makes the chip for the soon to be best selling console of all time.
>>110146769Nintendo is vendor locked to ARM and AMD is a x86 company not a ARM company.
>>110146765They have the switch and switch 2 and don't give a shit about other handhelds because those all use geforce now anyway
>>110146765>Radeon in 360 could do MSAA x4 for freeNvidia (PS3) could never
If I want quiter PSU, should I buy one with higger wattage?
>>110146786yes
>>110146741AI is very profitable. They are the richest company IN THE WORLD right now thanks to AI
>>110146786buy a better quality psu. 80 plus platinum units are worth the upgrade not only for efficiency but most units are quiet too.
>>110146786Check out cybernetic's noise review by googlingsite:cybernetics.com <psu model>
>AMD Zen 6 Shows Up To 24% Higher Per-Clock Performance Than Zen 5, Promising A Big Leap For Ryzen Upgraders>AMD 4 GHz "Zen 6" CPU Comes Close To A 5.5 GHz "Zen 5" CPU, And That Means Next-Gen Ryzen Chips Can Offer A Fantastic Leap In Performance
>>110146873Zen6 also fixed AMDips 1% lows
>>110146879It was never existed in the first place
>>110146896it still exists. its a real problem on dual ccx cpus. windows works around it for games with gamebar bloatware but everything else still needs process lasso.
>>110145689Yeah, time to buy a laptop and overspec it because who knows when I can get another.
lol lmao
>>110146906That's cross ccx lagAmdip was coined by bugchasers who claimed it affects all Ryzen CPUs without exception, just so he could sell Intel overclocking sessions
>>110146908>it's the game's fault!
>>110146908that's very obviously shader compilation
kek
>>110146922amdip means bad 1% lowsamd has good 1% lows when it works but its inconsistent a lot of the times so its not good. intel is worse but its always consistent. thats why nova lake bfc is going to be so dope. you get the speed of x3d without the inconsistency.
shader compilation stutter is not a hardware problem, it's a software problem
>amdip>doesn't show what is describedanother chubby chaser faggot?
>>110146967bad 1% lows doesn't show up in GN's or HUB's reviews thoughthe next cope would be to say its the 0.1% lows or 0.01% lows
>>110146977>>110147117all dpc interrupts on core 0 on amd systems by default. intel spread messages by default. theres a reason windows makes you reinstall when switching cpus.
>>110147117>>110146977if your ryzen cpu lost the fclk lottery it will always be stuttery. it will retry the data (stutter) instead of crashing into a bsod.
>>110146744The 5080 super already exists in the form of the 5090 laptop gpu.
>>1101471625090 laptop = 5070 desktop
>>110147194It uses gb203 that's used in the 5070ti and 5080
If you're using mods that alter how your character looks like, im guessing dlss won't like that and will cause visual glitches since it wasn't trained using your modified character model?
>>110146723In hindsight, I feel stupid for feeling stupid for upgrading to a 5090 that I didn't really need at $3600 four months ago. Turns out that FOMOing into hardware is always the correct choice.
>>110147243Dlss1.4 to 4.5 are generalized models that work for any kind of art style Dlss5 is Instagram realism slop and dlss1 was trained per game
>>110146685honestly the most sensible and correct opinion on the ai shit in general. the demand for shit and prices are not coming down, so get while the gettin is good baby!! the ai bubble probably will delfate like you said, but the tech is here to stay. there’s a lot of protest against ai in the artistic spaces but in japan and other countries gen. ai is embraced. animators are going to be using it, artists will have digital ai tools at their disposal across the board. it’s more of an integrated tool at this point and it also has rapidly had a place in our society. the negativity will always be there but it will just keep getting more normalized that ai is in our society and culture. it’s massively overhyped right now yes but it will still be around and also prices won’t be coming down HAH i just nabbed a 5070ti slim for 1300. hurt my bank account yes but like i said, get it while its good baby
>>110147298Sorry I shoulve specified dlss1.4 to 4.5I just had this idea that since to obtain the vector files they make a supercomputer play the videogame it wouldn't work correctly with a modded game because the supercomputer didn't play the game using the modded character >Dlss5 is Instagram realism slopHonestly they shoulve called it differently >dlss1 was trained per gameOhhh so they don't do this anymore? Is that why people easily mod dlss4 into games that don't have it officially?
i just ordered a 5070ti for my new gpu, replacing the 2070 super. i was in this thread for days not sure what to do but i fuckin pulled the trigger and got the pny 5070ti slim. now my system will consist of a 270k plus, 32gb of ddr5 6000, and an asus proart mobo. my next step is to upgrade the ram to 64gb and get a 12tb hdd for storage. in the future i may switch to amd and get their proart mobo if it suits my interests (video editing mainly) but we’ll see. in the meantime how much could i reasonably sell some old parts for? i have an old pc combo of z97 pro gamer mobo, Intel Core i7-4790K 4 core, and 16gb ddr5. i also have the 2070 super gpu, and a broken mobo socket msi z890 carbon wifi MB. any ideas are appreciated
>>110147197>It uses gb203 that's used in the 5070ti and 5080Yeah, because it's a 5080 super.
>>110147338ddr3 not 5, my bad
>>110147243>If you're using mods that alter how your character looks like, im guessing dlss won't like that and will cause visual glitches since it wasn't trained using your modified character model?Doesn't seem to effect anything. Dlss5 seems to be a generic filter that deals with whatever is put infront of it (some people have got it working though lossless scaling.)
>>110147259At this point you can't let yourself feel stupid or let others tell you are stupid for buying xyz.There is a sickness of performative reddit males that loath anything resembling enthusiast purchases and you should be miserable if you didn't buy based on consensus.The same retards that called anything but a 5800x3d/ddr4/3070 purchase dumb in 2024 are now crying about DDR5 and GPU prices.
>>110147430>5800x3d/ddr4/3070 purchase dumbthe 3070 was dumb tho. all it's features just take up more of it's limited vram.
>>110147439Switch it with any other midrange GPU and you get the point.You sure aren't allowed a xx90 and damn sure not a xx80
27" MINILED OR OLED PICK FOR ME
>>110147430>There is a sickness of performative reddit males that loath anything resembling enthusiast purchases and you should be miserable if you didn't buy based on consensus.>The same retards that called anything but a 5800x3d/ddr4/3070 purchase dumb in 2024 are now crying about DDR5 and GPU prices.Did people really preach the 3070? back then the whole crypto shenanigans were happening so all GPUs were expensive, pretty sure people preached the 3060 because of 12gb of vram and cheaper price. Pretty sure is not just my imagination because the 3060 is super popular in steam charts
>>110147477Top tier LED. It will last you though AIpocalypse
>>110147338Hey anon, it's me, your long lost brotherCould you remind me where your house was again so I can return you your mega drive?
Going to Microcenter tomorrow and buying all the stuff I need to build a new PC. First one I've built since 2016. What's the go-to keyboard these days?>full size>num pad>no "gamer" shitAny decent keyboard brands? Don't want Logitech or gamer bait like Corsair.
>>110147519I don't have a specific model recommendation but look for any keyboard that has magnetic switches instead of mechanical/membrane
>>110147533How's the feel compared to mechanical? I'm coming from cherry brown from some brand I can't remember. No doubt some unbranded chinkclone.
the cushion on my new libernovo omni SE $700 home "office" chair is made out of a material that's really soft and nice for my ass but it absolutely soaks up my farts, it's been a day and it already has a wonderfully pungent fragranceit's also really comfy I recommend :)
>>110137184Use models that fit in your gpu with room to spare. The biggest upgrade you could do is slap another gpu in the system to give the models extra vram with llama.cpp
>>1101474393070s are cheap used and they run most everything at 2k. I use mine with occulink connected to my little mini pc. I think i paid $325 or something for it. For some games I'll run at 1080p then upscale with lossless scaling.
>>110146786be Quiet and Fractal PSUs use their custom fans to minimize noise.Seasonic x Noctua is at the extreme end of these noise optimized PSUs.
>9950X3D>Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite Wifi 7>Teamgroup T-Create Expert 64 GB DDR5 6000 MHz (CL34)>Lexar NM790 4 TB>Gigabyte RTX 5080 Gaming OC>Lian Li Lancool 217>Peerless Assassin 140>Super Flower Leadex VII Platinum Pro 1200 W>Rog Swift OLED PG32UCDM3 Gen 3>Keychron Q6 Ultra (banana)>Razer Viper V4 ProRate my build, bros. I refuse to pay $5K+ for a 5090. Did they make it a hassle to pirate Windows these days? Should I just buy the fucking thing?
>>110147717>9850X3D*
>>110147717Get a 42inch OLED tv for gaming, bro
>>110147717>>>/g/fwt/ has a pretty good activator in their opIt's a hwid activator that functions like a real retail key
>>110145794no it doesn't. It takes 1 second to just look at 9070xt vs 7900xtx benchmark tests on youtube. If you wanna say it's better for non gaming that is 1 thing, but for gaming it is worse
>>1101457947900xtx has amdip
>>110147717I love it
>>110136630no joke what could i get for1000-1200 usd ?location latam shitholemust be am5
>>110147948>1000-1200 usd>location latam shithole>must be am5son...
>>110147717Get the 9950x3d2 for less micromanaging
>>110147972he's got something even better >>110147724
>>110147717get a 270k plus
>>110147815Just read it. Christ, seems dead simple. Looks like I want IOT LTSC. Thanks, pal.>>110147938Really?
>>110147963help bro out
i thought about upgrading to a 5080 but then I realized theres no games I want to play
>>110147983pure gaming or creative works/video editing as well (amd or nvidia)?are able to find cl32 where you live? you can get away with bad cl or even a single stick of 32/24 gb of ram if you buy the cheaper am5 x3d cpu you can findwhat resolution is your target between 1080p and 1440p? do you have a monitor already?mexican by any chance?
>>110147984REX Engine games soon
>>110147976Yeah it's a fantastic build, I'm jelly
>>1101477175090s were already questionable at 3-4k and now they're effectively dead at 7-10kanyway you've got a pretty sick build there
>>110143153I have this board. It's hilariously overkill except it lacks a 10 gig nic.>bifurcated x8 gen 5 slots, can handle 3 gen 5 m.2s to the cpu plus an extra gen 4>3 more m.2 slots and an x4 slot available from the chipset>6 sata ports *two are dogshit though300 bucks is a ridiculous price for this. 500 total for the combo? Fuck you, lol
>>110148137It'll take >5 years for am5/6 to have a board of that quality at that price lmao
>>110148163I forgot to mention the x1 gen 4 slot above the gpu. I've got a Sata controller hooked in there but a gen4x1 10 gig nic suits it well if you really need it. The only downside to using this as productivity board is that it's a two dimm board but it's very fun to fuck around with
>>110147717I have that PSU. It's fine but the fan spooks me when it turns on, loud little fucker.Superflower is releasing the new revision of that PSU like, now? It comes with an anti-melt dongle, like the TG wireguard. Maybe go for that, they appear literally identical on their spec sheets otherwise.
>windows APX supportNovalake chads are gonna win so hard
Jesus christ guys, resident evil 4 remake looks out of this world wtf
>>110141752price won't come down until at least 5 more factories are up and running
>>110146896it does, unfortunately. look at gaymers nexus rainbow six 0.1% lows
>>110148429>trannbow six >upislop that no one playslol. lmao even.
>>110148310President evil? Oh you mean trump
Hello anons, need some advice in purchasing 2nd hand desktops for education. Not an IT guy, just vidya as a hobby and my last build was in 2020 so my knowledge is barebones at the minimum.The desktops are for IT and cybersecurity courses, I'm ignorant of the kind of workload and programs they'll be using them for.Requirements are 64 gigs of ram, 1tb ssd and an i7 8th gen or higher cpuCurrently undecided looking at the CPU,>8400 vs 8700Price difference between the for 25 units would be $1200 here in SEA. Would the increase in performance worth it for the kind of applications those courses would use? Considering they're old CPUs and we don't have the luxury of upgrading them in 3-5 years until we get some ROI on them. Thank you.
>>110149480id say sothe 8700 is clocked ~10% higher and has hyperthreading which puts it at about 30-40% more performance than the 8400
>>110149480intel 4th gen to 8th gen have a big TIM under the IHS problem, if you're an actual enthusiast you'll want to delid those cpus and change the TIM for PTM
>>110149496Thanks anon. I guess that makes the 8700 worth considering then, specially since we won't be upgrading those pcs for some time. The 64gig ram requirement is the really bank breaking one. I wonder if the programs they'll be using would really utilize all of those or benefit their use case (that I'm unaware of, as my 16 gig old gaming rig still runs just fine). Would save a lot of $$$ if 32 gig would cut it.
>>110149582I see. Don't think I'd go that far, these are 2nd hand units as it is and it would void the already limited warranty. Hopefully thermal paste they'll be putting in just werks.
>>110149629or u can get the 9th gen intel
>>110149582I have a 4690k that has been running pretty much 24/7 since I got it back in 2014 that still has perfect temps dough.
>>110149663Intel toothpaste is perfectly adequate if you run it at or below 1.2v vcore
>>110149593If you're sourcing the parts yourself, pairing 4 sticks of 16gb, 2666mhz ram on a h370/b360 board would be ideal for cost and stability 32gb sticks cost a lot and running just 2 will stress the CPUs memory controller harder since boards from that era are optimized for having all ram slots filled up (i.e. 2 dimms per channel)
>>110149657Was also looking at that but it would be an even harder ask budget wise as it would go from $10531.6 8400 all parts and assembly in vs $12575.05 9700 from different suppliers possibly without the peripherals too>>110149698Aye most of the quotations I've looked at have 16x4for the 8700 build, they have an MSI Z370 board for it. That would be fine yeah?
>>110149776Z370 is better on paper but you won't be able to make use of its main feature, CPU overclocking, on a non-K Intel CPU
>>110149791Got it, I'll look for an h370 or b360 and those might be cheaper too. Thanks for the heads up anon
Does 60hz vs 120hz really matter for 60fps? Or is it just a meme?
