Flowery editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Tangzu Wan'er S.G 2 (mild V) - $20• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• NICEHCK Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200• TempoTec V1 - $110>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>110095809
That could be ai generated too. U never know but I can't imagine that this board would even care about art.
I still don't have a CD player.
>>110123249You personally never know. I of course know.
/iemg/ Dogma Check Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:>Crinacle is not your priest.Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.>Graphs are not sound.They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.>Loud posts =/= smart takes.Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.>Cognitive dissonance.When you're presented with a truth that threatens your entire perception of the world around you, your brain will simply refuse to process it.This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.
>>110123258I don't know. But if u expect me to care about that picture I need to know. And only way to know is to know person behind it. If they didn't provide that info I don't care and I will assume stuff was ai generated to save few bucks. Then for me this picture is nothing more than random slop from internet and Im not paying for that shit
The /iemg/ Tier List
for me it's foxiem
>>110123370Endgame
>>110123370bot draft yet?
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>>110123288You're the only one who cares about this.
$5 Shitbud Alert
>>110123438Audiopedophile niggas really think file size = quality.
>>110123438Bro can you upload it to youtube or smthing pls
>>110123499Yes, because price is inverse to quality. The more free it is, the higher quality.
>>110123516when do you think this esoteric knowledge will spread outside of /iemg/?
>>110123527When you come up with an original idea of your own.
>>110123527One gigabyte at a time.https://pomf2.lain.la/f/7c6u3f3.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/flgrzuzo.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/t9aon4h2.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/8ktpu9fd.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/mihrv4dl.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/s7v7gu1d.wv
>>110123534what does this mean? why do i have to come up with anything for you to answer a question?
i see you type this fucking garbage every thread and i'm just curious why you think no one else agrees with you. it's an extraordinarily strong claim and questions like this should be inevitable. if you want to post the old thd picture or the picture of the expensive iem with the large shell as if that means anything i can comment on that too
>>110123554Because you haven't defined sandbox.
DSD512 for example. That's a bitrate of 45.15mbps, or 53MiB/s. With every second, you're paying $0 for 45mbit containing freedom of the highest quality. Put that in your DAC and play it.https://pomf2.lain.la/f/7hrfbfmd.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/0zi4n8gh.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/fv92ib38.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/z4jsw0w.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/nsasb4lt.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/lpbns2y.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/r5iza9dv.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/pl4peai0.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/u1624cjw.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/9zbby95m.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/2bdczfla.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/1n39rn9x.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/zmekiqj.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/rbaje4o7.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/lpbns2y.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/r5iza9dv.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/pl4peai0.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/u1624cjw.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/th6n048e.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/7hrfbfmd.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/0zi4n8gh.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/fv92ib38.wv
My DAC doesnt support anything higher than 48kHz PCM
>>110123642Time for an upgrade.https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650366895-cayin-ru7-dongle-dacamp/
Bro saw that cheap IEMs have low distortion and started buying actual dogshit.
>>110123655It's not worth it, audio peaked in 1995
>>110123673>parasound pcm63 and SR-006>$300 ampnigga...
>DSDNoeq cacas...
>>110123577>not a direct reply to anything, dismissedyou're literally arguing with yourself since nobody here cares enough about any possible contention over anything from you.i.e.- the Chu 2 "AI slop". absolutely nobody gives a flying rats ass even half as much as you. from now on, AI generated box art is to be praised and gooned to.
I currently have have a kz as16 pro and it feels not comfortable. What IEMs should I get if I want good sound and comfort?
>>110123737FUDU Verse II
>>110123737Get new tips my nigga.
Because of the price to quality inverse relationship, collecting as many free shitbuds on Aliexpress as possible is one obscure way to increase quality.
>>110123737When I see there's no nozzle angle I know the IEM won't have a good fit for me. When it curves up the fit is good.
Thoughts on Fosi Audio IM4?
>>110123686> SR-006That's SR-Ω>$300 ampT8000 and KGSSHV sound worse and are not lore accurate, BHSE is fine but the difference is barely tangible Estat amplification is a meme propagated by modern sibilant dogshit models like SR-009s and X9000 which actually DO need a strong coloration to sound somewhat decent Hayashi-san kept SRM-1mk2 in production until 1995 bankruptcy and there is a reason for that
>>110123734you all seem to think i'm someone else, i haven't commented on ai yet. i dont really care because i dont buy those iems. i guess the weeb shit would be pretty hard to tell with
>>110124020the lady doth protest too much
>>110124160tell me which posts to quote and i'll do it. any thread.
>>110124962what is this, cross-thread schizoposting?
>>110125024just offering to resolve a ambiguity someone else introduced is all
hpg is dead so can you guys help me out :) (please)
>>110125452don't ask to ask mf
>>110125564I was using a pair of AKG 240s, they broke. I bought another pair because I think they are comfortable so I use them for everything. I was meaning to buy a pair of headphones that can make up for the shitty bass they have. I was looking at Meze 99 Neos, I ordered a pair but Amazon cancelled the purchase. Everyone seems to hate them, but I was fine with the impulse purchase, now that the cancelled order left me in the water I'm looking at my options again and I can't break out of the loop of conflicting opinions.DT 770s or what? Price range 200-300, just looking for something with bass and a similar headband build to the Neos or the AKG 240s.
>>110125619$55 https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/he-r9-refurbished.html
>>110125619FT1 non Pro or 480 Pro ofcOnly kinda valid headpos choices for closed back
>>110125702I don't even know what this meme is but for the price I might aswell get a pair.
>>110125738RIP
>>110125738It's bass and soundstage: the headphone. When you get it, leave it playing overnight and listen the next morning.
>>110125766Post so ass it killed 4chan.
>>110125619ignore the mouthbreathers and buy the dt 270 pro, beyer's finest headpos
Just got the Meze 105 Aer what am I in for? I didn't want to get any more IEMs since the Tea Pro is perfect
why not buy a cap from headpos show? it signals that you know science
>>110126043>olive>sean oliveomg i got it!!!!! i love science !!!!!!!!
>AUNE AR3000 (white)>sub $200>headpos show already shill it nonstopO.o
>>110126914thanks!! im gunna eq it to perfection now
>>110125452Solved by AR3000
Don't listen to the headpos newfags currently invading us after the php hack, IEMs are superior.
>>110127560>weak ass argument from weak ass clankerNice try.
>>110127560>Luna 27Ω 88dB/Vrms>PR2 15Ω 94dB/VrmsComparing two planars with different power requirements makes saying, >"this planar sounds thin">"this planar sounds full"totally meaningless as the comparison leaves important factors out of consideration
>>110126255
>its warm>its neutralThese words have become completely meaningless to me
>>110127658>>110127729Source is Gemini scraping Facebook
Anyone have any experience with getting custom eartips? At a glance it seems like most people are saying it isn't worth it unless you're getting a full on custom IEM.
>>110126545UUUHM PEAK CINEMA?
Want to switch my kiwi ears cadenza. Budget is about 60-80. Any good ones? My ears are little
>>110126545Considering they have an exclusive agreement to sell the AR9000 in the US and the way they’re shilling it, well, I’m not so sure.I also noticed that some US-based reviewers didn’t even receive a unit to test.
Haha, I completely understand why you'd think that! :) It's actually a very common misconception. But once you understand how these things work, you'll see why we approach them differently:)
>>110125619used aeons>>110126545the only people still reviewing headphones are grifters
>>110129903What is their grift? The same logic should be applied to everyone reviewing anything then.
>>110130072other fields have actual products to review, headphone audio doesn't. Everything worth buying is at min over 10 years old at this point, unless it's basically a reissue like dan clarks stuff or audeze. Since no one needs a review of the hd 600/650/800 stax lambda, lcd 2, lcd x, focal clear etc, your only option is chinese products, that end up failing in mass like the ft1 pro did, or amps/dacs from the same companiesobviously none are worth buying, but if your honest people would have no reason to see your review and the chinks won't pay you off like amar is with topping, which is probably the most obvious grifter i've ever seen in audio>spends 10 years shilling topping saying how amazing their products and cust support are>worst company in entire audio for qc or customer supportquite literally you could still go to tyll's channel,and you would still find every single headphone review of any product worth buying. The last being the focal clear og if you want to deal with dog shit qc/design flaws, but at least that had a reason to exist unlike all this new trash
>>110130139You really believe all that, huh
>>110130276believe what that there is no point to chinkfiman making their 50th identical garbage headphone with slightly different tuning that still breaks in 1 year?or amir still shilling topping after a decade of failure? doesn't seem like im wrong but you didn't argue anything
>>110130320I asked a yes or no question and you shit yourself..
>>110130320>chinkfiman making their 50th identical garbage headphone with slightly different tuning that still breaks in 1 yearu described like 90% of IEM market.At least some of headpos stood test of time, even if they were cheap. With IEMs, don't know, old stuff sound like trash, new stuff is shein fast fashion of audio hobby.
>>110128288They're too heavy and get sore fast. Custom IEMs are better but unsurprisingly having plastic in your ears is not the pinnacle of comfort.
>>110130438>u described like 90% of IEM market.it's just chinese slop in general. They either make a new company to sell the same identical trash like they do with 'gaming chairs' and mice, or they just make a new model like chinkfiman and all of the chinese audio companies do, some of them are even still made with the same name after like 5 revisions that aren't announced which from memory was the case with he1000's but might of been another model. Anything good tends to be accidental from such companies, chinese are the worst for it but as i mentioned earlier, it happened with focal too. They accidentally made a model that people liked more than a $5k headphone and killed it as soon as they mass failed and needed to be warrantied and then refused to do somodern audio as a hobby is kind of a humiliation ritual mostly, but if you don't mind used products it's absurdly cheap by hobby standards. Pretty much nothing can compete with boomer speaker deals, or used good headphones. Not sure about that with iems as much considering the odd old model i look up like mdr ex1000s tend to sit at msrp in shit condition, but i'm sure there is something ok out there
/iemg/ - Headphones General
>>110131330why so but hurt chink?
How do you deal with tinnitus /iemg/?
>>110131441get enough sleep, stress less and dont have poor posture (craning neck etc)
>>110131441use speakers or open dd headphonesplanars or iems are going to be torture devices for tinnitusobviously do things like lower your average volume and try and soundproof your room and remove ambient loud shit that make you ear rape yourself in the first place like loud fans or shit like coil whine sometimes it's also vitamin related, commonly b12 but i've heard people mention copper, manganese,niacin and iron deficiencies so check those too sinus problems can also be the entire cause like mine is, allergies or colds etc. but still do the prior if it's an issue
>>110131209She's as flat as my EQ
Why are you incels talking about headphones in the IEM general? Go make a thread already.
>>110131611funko pops, but they go in your ears this time
>>110131441I don't deal with it because I don't have it. Sudden loud sounds can make my ears ring but it passes. I used to have moments during the day where it would ring for a couple of seconds but I determined it was caused by washing my ears with hot water. I don't listen music loud and my room is very quiet.
>>110131700The difference is that you don't pay for IEMs.
>>110130438I would take IEM that sounds like shit over every headpos that "stood the test of time" other than LCD-2.
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>>110131611Saddest thing in history of saddest things, maybe ever.I wouldn't be able to look in the mirror if I ever pulled something like this.
>>110132014Sad for you.
>>110129202>AR9000 With the MSRP they are asking (1500$) it is DOA.>>110131209>he1000 One of the he1000 versions is literally one of the best audio devices I have ever tried. It was literally a mellower Susvara UV. And just like you said - god fucking knows which revision its been, because there are no markers whatsoever. When I asked the owner, he didnt know either. >audio as a hobby is kind of a humiliation ritualThe only valid way is to go and listen in person to a place with a proper selection and make a personal choice what is good or not. Buying blind is allowing yourself to be swayed in a particular direction, and if you allow it to happen once it will happen again over and over.
>>110131611They should tax that kind of man child shit. Trash so cheap that it's literally waste of resources and unnecessary CO2 emissions. Third world coded audio playback devices.
Sometimes I put on my HD6XX to laugh at how utterly trash headpos are
>>11013228420 year old $129 recolor headphone isn't peak of audiocrazy >>110132207he could also be a chink qc lottery winner, seeing as all those units have insane variation did you try and buy them off him? >Buying blind only one i truly blinded and it payed off a lot was my open aeons from a warehouse deal for$370 cad, liked those a lot but i mostly use speakers now
>>110132330It's just funny that a $129 headphone that most headphone people recommend sounds so fucking bad
>>110132395drop is killed anyways so you won't see that again anyways, now it's all just chifi that snaps or explodes in 1 year6xx was the best possible normalfag adjacent headphone to probably ever exist considering it basically lasted forever at $129 unless you tried to break it, and as long it wasn't the drivers even the headband could be fixed in 5 mins with no toolsnow even the hd 600 sells out it's stock on amazon @349-400 cad so no deal like that will exist again, it'll just be chinkshit forever i personally liked the 600 more than the 650 though, lots of the shit people gave about the 650 was just not a problem with those like the darkness
>>110132429To be fair it's still working after 10 years, built like a tank. But the HD6XX sounds so boxed in it's insane. I just haven't really found a reason to go back to headphones, even after trying sets at canjam. The price and comfort don't make sense to me. Although I signed up for the waitlist after headpos effectively shilled the ar3000 to me
>>110132429>hd 600Mogged by HE6se.>>110132284>HD6XXMogged by HE6se.>>110131733>LCD-2Mogged by HE6se.>>110131209>he1000'sMogged by HE6se.>>110129202>AR9000Mogged by HE6se.>>110127050>AR3000Mogged by HE6se.>>110125911>dt 270 proMogged by HE6se.
>>110132573Soul. Best chinkfiman ever been. New planars are just thin diaphragm limp wristed incels that tries to be electrostatic chads. Old planars had soul
>>110132573Obliterated by fox IEM.
>>110132620Wow, cool high performance plastic called ultem. Where can I get Iem with such exotic material?
>>110132613Best part is you can get one under $300 and plug it into your dad's speaker amp.
>>110132646At Sneed's feed and seed
>>110131441Don't use iems, brighter ones made it worse for me. I'm cool with open backs, dd and planars works for me. But in general I would avoid brighter tunings. I hear everything up to 20k so bit warmer sound isn't problematic for me.
>>110132272>They should tax that kind of man child shit. Trash so cheap that it's literally waste of resources and unnecessary CO2 emissions. Third world coded audio playback devices.
moondrop sisters, we are so back
>>110125714Got the Fiios today, they're fine, also placed an order for the Hifimans because fuck it
>>110133758>Didn't wait for the AR3000
>>110133984Ts lowkey spam buddy
>>110134321pricepoint questionmark
>>110134349How do you propose to increase activity on /iemg/? More EDC Pro? More headpos? More tips? More graphs? More DSPs? More shitposting? More filters? More foobar2000? More autism? More photos? More PR2? More 4.4mm? More dongles? More ddls? More Linux? More milkdrop2? More flamewars? More hornyposting? More autoeq? I'm being serious here, give me a hint.
I want you to give it some serious thought. This is our /iemg/.
I wonder if the Gengar EPZ anon is actually enjoying his POS
>>110134893I don't know, man. I feel like the moment I say EQ bad I come back to at least 30+ replies of psueds going at each other. That seems to be meta for now.
>>110132822>unnecessary CO2 emissionskek
>subscribe to compare more than two modelsCome on headpos show wtf
>>110135047More trolling?
>>110135051I just farted.
>>110135116just use AI for this dawg
>>110135116>Boomers really think there's a market for such greed in the age of le AI
Guys EQ bad, indians peqdb, is coffee good for you? Redpill me on cheap IEMs tanchjim chungus winamp dongle meme tuning. I'm proud this community equalizes squiglink fortnite shitbuds aliexpress kilobuck sharur.
>>110135283In your case, it's called a queef.
>>110135283I watched porn where girl with really nice ass was farting to camera.
>>110135419Holy fuck link???????
>>110135370>They're calling him the saargod of SEO
>>110134893More techs, less cope
>>110134893More fox IEM.
Good times.
>>110128288get a few sticks of oyumaru, learn how to use them and make your own custom "tips".
What is a good durable IEM? I walk a lot whenever I listen to music, I just want one where it doesn't shit itself after a couple of months of use. Or should I just buy a bunch of cheap earbuds so I have a lot of backups?
>>110136247all IEMs are durable depending on how you're breaking them
how're'y'all breaking your IEMs? I haven't had one break yet. it just gets crushed in your pockets?
my dt 990 headphones are dying and i don't want to spend so much money and heards iems can get close to good headphones for less money what iems is a good pick from my dt 990
>>110136516$0.5 shitbuds EQ'd to perfection
or is this an earwax/sweat/humidity thing? idk. if you're projectile niggerdripping gallons of hot waxy diabetic sweat into your earbuds after a brisk walk through the park then yea, choose a cheapo e-waste like dawn to take outside and autoeq it to mega5est
>>110136516this >>110136527 except unironically
Mid Tier$5 shitbuds$10 shitbudsHigh Tier$3 shitbuds$4 shitbudsTop Tier$1 shitbuds$2 shitbudsGod Tier$0 shitbuds$0.49 shitbuds
Is this schizo going through post nut clarity or major buyer's remorse?Either way, we see through the cope.
>>110136621you came from /hpg/ we get it
how do you get buyer's remorse for things you didn't even pay for
do you really think I would sell any of my IEMs for the price I paid?>oh no I really need $17, better sell my KZ Decetis this really what you're accusing me of? post hand with accurate color balance
Why do these headpos users keep buying Beyerdynamic
>>110136247iems with metal shells, so the Chu 2/3
>>110136876what is a better alternative
>>110136889Any random sennheiser would be a better pick, even from their wireless consumer line up
>>110136886I think the bigger problem is clogging, maybe use tips without an opening or foam tips and nothing gets in
>>110136908if the hd 660s2 wasn't too expensive i would buy it
>>110136644that's rich, but you're wrong.
>>110136876they are chink-fi now so they started making good headpos (dt 270 pro)
>new preference bounds>all bright headpos are okay nowHave you apologized to HifiASMR yet?
>>110137651gradofags i apologize/kneel you weren't all deaf boomers after all
okaaaaaaayim gonna block ebay on my router nowfuck me, just spent 750 on two posone's kinda generic "giant killer". the other one though...
>>110139020compare it with autoeq'd edc pro
>>110139065of course. i'll even use the same 200 dollar cable it comes with for parity.
>>110139132Based
So, is cheap earbud collecting truly the way? Only get ones not above 10$? I've been adding a bunch of buds in my cart below 10 USD and wondering if this is the play... I have no idea how to EQ by the way.
I will buy Shanling Moria and I will be happyI will buy Shanling Moria and I will be happyI will buy Shanling Moria and I will be happyI will buy Shanling Moria and I will be happy
>>110139203like that box full of plastic few post above. U see, most of that stuff came from same factory, most of that stuff has exactly the same transducer model (cheap and crappy). The only thing that changed between them was plastic housing. If the chinese manufacturer was having a good day, they might have altered the length of the acoustic tube or added a filter.U need at best 1 of them, becasue rest will sound like first one.
>>110139203i'd say a hectobuck iem is worth it for almost anyone but a handful of shitbuds is a good start if you are new. you can almost get them for free via coins i think if you sell your soul to aliexpress
>>110139230>if you sell your soul to aliexpressyou click these 2 things once daily hope this helps
>>110139255how it works? because i have lots of coins but usually most of that shit is -2-5% discount. And if u are paying attention more often than not u are fucked by chinks (they will change price up so coin discount doesnt make any difference at the end)
>>110139267You search for iems on the coins page for the 50% off. Sometimes it's actually a low %, sometimes it's actually higher. Try daily.
>>110139203no
>>110139203>I have no idea how to EQ by the way.https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/https://squig.link/
>>110139203yes
>>110139314it must be only with really cheap shit. I tried that with lots of stuff (usually more expensvie than that ) and in general u can make it -5% at best. An more often than not price on coin page is inflated compared to price on normal product page so u end up paying even more than without them. Entire site with different prices on desktop, in app, with or without coins is close to scam. Without comparision (sometimes u even need calculator and pen to write it down somewhere) u are just scammed thinking that u have a deal. Also u can try topcashback, probably more money saved that way than playing with coin scams on aliexpress
>>110139473it doesnt cost me anything so that helps
>>110139490ok so i was scammed buying that shit called gk kunten for 8usd. good to know
You can buy all the shitbuds you desire, the experience will never add up in techs.
>>110139497i paid $0 for ruta10 and i still feel scammed
>>110139502techs aren't included in the headpos graph tool so it's not real
oh god oh man oh god oh man
>>110139514Techs are in the THD graph(higher is better).
>paid more for dawn than edc proits so ogre
>>110139502actually it does, the techs are real in my mind
It's scam, prices are inflated compared to MSRP and then u can claw back just fraction of that via coins. Maybe cheap shit is used as a bait to lure retards but anything more expensive is just slightly less expensive but still more expensive than via linsoul or hifigo or shenzen audio
>>110139203There's a famous quote peeps should just buy a $5 shitbud and PEQ it to perfectionwhy buy anything else that we all live by hope this helps
peeps should just buy a $5 shitbud and PEQ it to perfectionwhy buy anything else
I smell cope and denial up in here. I wonder if this stems from buyer's remorse
>>110139627not every listing on aliexpress is a good price but then again those shitbuds can easily be substituted with edc pro and you get lower THD to boot. also it takes longer to save up the more expensive it is. while you save for 2 months for a $60 discount you could've already gotten 20 free IEMs
>>110139656>he buys iemsloool
>>110139673coin flexing won't save you. you paid for the most expensive IEMs you own, admit it.
>>110139666Ok, so as I thought, it only works for bottom of the barrel stuff. For rest u have to cross reference price in few places because it's how I wrote - most of this shit is cheaper on hifigo or linsoul than on AliExpress. And if u are in EU u are double fucked on AliExpress because vat tax, import tax (4usd) and u avoid all of that buying thru chinease audio stores (I don't know how they do it but they somehow avoid paying 22% vat tax so everything is much cheaper there.
Could anyone please recommend any specific stores in Taipei or Hong Kong? I'm not a high end buyer and already have a setup I'm mostly happy with but would like to buy a new cable as my current one is too heavy. Descriptions of cables always seem to be very flowery and vague so I'd prefer to test something in person.IEM - Moondrop Aria SnowDAC - EPZ TP35Eartips - SpinfitCable - Some NiceHCK one I purchased online a few years ago
>>110139861all of them will be like cheap smartphone from around 2010-2015, keep that in mind. They are bit bulky too so if u need something more portable I would buy something cheaper without android
>>110139773like 4 of 60 were over $20 and they still total under $150, much less than the memebuds some retards posted here. would much rather listen to interesting multidrivers and planars (stellaris, st7, vx pro+, sr001mk2) to see what they do to my music and they are all interesting. git gud nigga
>>110139956oh wait, st7 (2dd+5ba) wasn't even $20 lmao
>>110139956NTA, but 60 IEMs is a net negative
so I guess now I have to admit I paid $10 for luna, pr2, bunny, chu2, prx, waner and $17 for decet, waner2 and st7. rest are $0-$5 that's not even 2 hours of work
also lafitear lf3pro
now you have to admit that you paid $200 for an edc pro with different tuning and higher THD looool
>participating in a lottery, farming points, clicking on ads - all to be able to buy some carcinogenic plastic from chinagrim state of hobby
>>110140018see >>110139255
10 second daily click, check coupons then pay $0-$4 lol. something like $50 real money spent, $1000 discounts and 50 shitbuds>paying more than $1 for an IEM on averagethe paypigs go insane when you tell them $5 shitbuds are endgame
>"just download CCP spyware and you'll end up with free shitbuds"Meds. Now.
saving mondays/wednesdays were kino, I hope it comes back
>>110139825>europoors are paypigsthanks i already knew that
>>110140062>carcinogenic plastic from china
>>110140062>i am retarded so everything is retarded for everyone
It's just doesn't work on more expensive stuff. It's literally 3rd world honeypot. Probably some sort of CCP psyop to lure them into liking china.It's just Europeans coming to Africa or america with trinkets to exchange them for valuable stuff and slaves but modern spin on this kind of behavior done by china.China's soft power for third worlders and that is it. Also most likely causes cancer
>mfw EU started charging 3€ flat for every item import>Tariffs are more expensive than the shitbuds themselves Was fun but it killed the shitbuds
great things are happening on ASR rn
>>110140827looks like chief fun officer doesn't like fun at all
>>110140827Extremely based.
i read some headphone reviews on there once. it was pretty weird
>>110140944Amir genuinely thinks everything should sound EXACTLY like the Harman 2018 OE and 19 IE targets, and anything that is a deviation is wrong.
Headphones should graph different to sound the same. It's 2026, we know better than that.
How's the Senny MTW5?
opinions on the new Bose Wired TWS earbuds?
>>110139225>>110140167>>110140262>>110140092>>110140335Works on my machine.
>>110141321nobody knows since that's too expensive for /iemg/ - poorfag general
>>110141321can i use aliexpress coins to buy it?
Speaking of AliExpress. I've seen Meze Albas there, are they legit? Because price is lower than from retailers.
>>110142059Yeah
>>110142064Ofc
>>110140827This guy is deaf. If you listen to the Gate, you can hear grainy treble, which he did not point out in his glowing review. I know because I've purchased three Gates for the cable.
>>110142278uhhh isn't that the entire sales pitch for GATe? ppl buy it just for that
>>110142286Yes and the cable is worth the price, especially the white colored cable. The iem itself has glaring issues, just A/B with any other budget iem and parts of the treble sound like they are low res and filtered. I don't know if this is the result of them trying to tone down sibiliance, but it's very noticeable and it does not sound pleasant. Amir didn't once address it, I'm almost convinced he doesn't even listen to the shit he reviews, just graphs them
>mfw I see an unshitted street
>>110142059yes you may
>>110142338Nigga literally all pos has issues. Why are you on someone's dick because they didn't point out some subjective demerit?
>>110137651>make new boundaries to make "good headphones" fit inside "good boundaries">later admit these boundaries fit bad headphonesWhat a colossal waste of time.
>>110141794Are they even out yet. I would check them out.
>>110141794>>110142824Obsoleted by PR2 TWS.
>>110142511the point of a review is to experience the issue and type it. in this case, it's an audio review, which requires ears and hearing
Science btfohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb70j6DdcOk
>>110143912Once again science is debunked by broscience, will sciencefags ever recover?
>>110142882Goated planar
>>110143912>>110142748
Apologize for calling these treble canons right now
>>110144259I call it headpos.
feelsgood being a gamer
>>110144259>Nooooo our previous bounds were making our sponsors headphones look bad>How can we make the shittiest of pieces of trash still look somewhat decent????>It's muh HRTF guise it's just how it is!!!
>>110144439Literally just making shit up to sell more pos lol.
>>1101428826% thd, yikes.
One of the drivers blew out on my Simgot SuperMix 4 recently and my warranty is up, so I'm in the market for an upgrade. Not looking to go too much higher in price (got my SuperMix for around 160). Been eyeing Kiwi Ears Quintets, any other suggestions?
>>110145021who took that measurement and where's it at?
>>110145021that's one random russian guy's measurement of the PRX is, not PR2
>>110145190surely pr2 is going to be better...
>>110145194again, who took that measurement and where's it at?
>>110145213a random anon in a very noisy room
>it's the room>he must be measuring it wrongdo kzoyim really
>>110145194>Random Russian guys PR2 reviewhttps://www.ixbt.com/live/digs/obzor-kz-x-hbb-pr2-planarnye-naushniki-novogo-pokoleniya.html>"the new PR2s offer objectively better tuning for a much lower price">"planar headphones always require a high power source.">"distortion, reaching exactly 1% at its peak, which is not bad.">"the improvement here is obvious.">"The PR2s have a neutral presentation, with a sufficient amount of added mass, very good resolution, and simply superb tuning.">"I highly recommend this model to anyone eager to try planar headphones; it's well-balanced and accurate in every way. I might even consider it myself."KEEP acting like THD matters for anything and I'll post the same random guy's THD graph of PRX and list his praises of that too, directly contradicting your attempt to put meaning to "muh THD"
>>110145279>it's just a random russian guy but you should definitely trust what he says over what his measurements showthe kzoyim have completely lost their mind.
>>110145292higher THD of one IEM than another≠"worse sounding"
>>110145292Kek PR2 and Astral delusionzos are something else truly
>>110145312if you're deaf
>PR2 is bad>source: random ziggersugoi
>>110145456>"I highly recommend this model" = PR2 is bad
>>110133191moondrops always look so good
The Schrodinger's zigger - simultaneously makes PR2 look good and bad.
>>110145672this is why nazi germany's legacy is gonna end up brokering world peace
>>110145342>Random Russian guys PRX reviewhttps://www.ixbt.com/live/digs/obzor-kz-prx-luchshie-planarnye-naushniki-ot-knowledge-zenith.html>"They look luxurious, they fit comfortably, and they feel simply top-notch. Few can argue with Knowledge Zenith on that.">"peak distortion reaching almost 6%, which is simply astonishingly high.">"In terms of frequency response, we have a 12 dB boost in low frequencies with a smooth transition to the middle, a completely logical highlighting of the intelligibility area with a plateau up to 10 kHz and a maximally extended, slightly highlighted upper range.">"As you can see, it's very similar to the ThieAudio Hype 4 and 7Hz Timeless II with silver filters, which is telling, as they say.">"the PRX are worth their $37 price tag not 100%, but 200%. ">"They sound crisp, monitor-focused, a bit dry, very expressive, and incredibly smooth."
>>110145312>>110145347>"The main features are naturalness, a clean, almost transparent sound, clarity, good articulation, and high dynamics. This model skillfully combines all the macro and micro components of the composition.">"They're suitable for listening to rock, metal, any electronic music, anything classical or live, as well as anything focused on texture, technicality, and resolution. The soundstage, like most planar headphones, has almost no depth, and the timbres are massive, but without much volume or refinement in detail. However, they offer a powerful attack, no excess fat, excellent instrument separation, and a truly meticulous rendering of the entire musical canvas. This is, in fact, why many people love planar headphones.">"As for their promises, I confirm - the sibilants here are not disturbing at all, the highs are not bright or cutting, the sound is harmonious and balanced, the stage opens up well in width, well, and as for fullness and richness">"The midrange, unlike previous PR series headphones, sounds full, comfortable, and, for a planar driver, incredibly natural. These are truly amazing in their segment, and if you've never listened to headphones with a planar driver before, you're in for a treat.">"Knowledge Zenith truly managed to reach a whole new level, literally compelling us to upgrade to the latest version.">"Naturally, they require significant amplification, approximately 200 mW into a 32 ohm load">"Overall, the KZ PRX headphones look great, are comfortable to use, feel great, and are simply beautifully tuned. The downsides include the terrible stock cable, fairly high distortion, and the need for a high-amp source. Otherwise, there are only positives."but muh THD tho
how are we gonna cope about how IEMs over $30 have higher THD xisters
>>110145824How do you personally cope with it?
also what's the point of reading a review of something you can aliexpress for $10
>>110145832by not owning them that was easy
>>110145811>>110145818Zzzzzzz... slava zzzzzz... ZZZZZ.... VDV s neba privet....
>>110145852You go out of your way to obtain IEMs based on a single metric that audibly means nothing? I can see how that would be convenient in the long run..
>>110145883correction, the only metric that stood to rigor and the test of time has always been the price to quality inverse relationship. you ramble about % and dB when $ was king
subjective descriptions are informationally worthless to some people because of how ambiguous and prone to bias etc it is. it kinda has to be unambiguously true (concrete like measurements or physical shell size) or it gets nulled out. its basically compression. when you see this you can understand a lot of povs better
>>110145902Bodied that freak.
>>110145818>The downsides include the terrible stock cable, fairly high distortion, and the need for a high-amp sourcefuckin lmao
>>110145902You're the one bitching about THD in the first place. Maybe....don't bring it up again since we just established it truly means nothing for most things?Good girl.
>>110145903reviews are worthless because you gotta read reviews of unrelated products written by the same author to know his definitions of the words he uses. only reviewslop I care about is comparisons. if you own half the iems and headpos, the words start to have meaning, otherwise it's just unintelligable commie gobbledegook
>>110145909Samefag alert.
High distortion is good actually. You get what you pay for.
>>110145928>>110145937no im bitching about $ get your story straight
>>110145947see >>110145021
>>110145955multiple people on iemg, radical concept
>>110145955wasn't even in that argument
>>110145959>>110145960denial is a negative trait. kinda awkward when it comes to science
ill synthesize my argument with yours: if you're gonna pay for high THD then you don't need $50 meme pos to achieve that goal
>>110145977You just need R2R and tubes.
>>110144433
>>110145990just checked, prx is $25 and you get a $4 off coupon at that price range. how are you gonna cope about spending $30+ on supra edc pro ($3) THD
Speakers have the highest distortion so they sound the best. Everybody knows this.
when are you gonna debunk this >>110145840
>>110146011what if the THD works in the music genre's favor? to begin with, there's no one size fits all audio setup so it's pretty much moot
>>110145967literally none of this thread is scientific
>>110128288Not even customs are worth ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-epsDXaaAq0
>>110146106dabbing on the kzoyim is scientific
I'm looking to upgrade from my samshit galaxy buds 3 pros to either the snoy xm6 or senn mtw5. Which one should I go for?
>>110146054for example, you all hate planars but they work for j-core and japanese techno. it handles the subbass and separation. wouldn't use it for vocal music. low distortion 1DD doesn't contribute to the sound of japanese techno. if I'm set on listening to 2 albums on a specific iem, it's going to result in what I want to hear, but I won't know whether it's actually good until I actually do. from there it influences future listening decisions
>>110129606i see you understand why i believe i'm right. this doesnt come across as nauseatingly performative open-mindedness, instead your apparent understanding and friendliness lets me lower my guard and i'm receptive to being taught hecking science now. thank you for being so patient with me
Currently have the Sony WF XM4s and a galaxy s21 ultraI am maybe upgrading to the latest iPhone soon and I only just now realized Applel only has AAC for bluetoothIs there going to be a noticeable drop in audio quality if I use an iPhone with my XM4s? All my audio is in FLAC but that's only because FLAC albums are easier to torrent
>>110146151>>110146823Wired, nigga.
>>110147177No nigger I already have wired.
>>110145072You could check out the juzear light shuttle, it's hyped right now, similar tuning, slightly warmer.
>>110146151xm6 build quality is dogwater, go with the sennies
>>110146823Get a separate DAP or bluetooth dongle for your iPhone
>>110147177wired is inconvenient>>110147819I am not an audiophile and I don't want to buy a dongleI'm just asking if the difference would be noticeable enough to be annoying
>>110144259and what if my preference is on the lower side of the bounds HUH????????????
>>110123153What's the consensus on Sound Rhyme SR6?
>>110143912>Science btforetard 1all of this is literally based on harman research>>110143968retard 2>>110142748retard 3Very good video explaining what they are doing and why. It sadly doesn't really solve anything lol. Especially their IEM preference bounds you can fit anything in
>>110144433I have mv-1 which is basically this and holy shit 6-8k is diabolical lolI wonder if it's good for me cause my hearing is closer to 5128 than some...
>>110148192have no issues with the treble spike on the mv1’s but it is definitely more noticeable with the h6 air. ez eq fix for the latter
>>110148184>harman researchAh yes, the sciency science of the most science. Much science.
>>110147970Wired is more convenient than wireless.
wireless niggas be like it's so convenient bro [does unpairing/pairing humiliation ritual]
PAIRING PAIRINGPAIRINGCONNECTEDLOW BATTERY PLEASE RECHARGE HEADSET*turns off*
>untangles wire for 5 minutes>trips over wire>hooks wire on (insert corners, doorhandles, buttonms) and tears whole socket, drops phone/dap/whole ampSo fucking convenient... as long as you sit in one place. Better amplification and cleaner sound, yes, but don't you niggas gaslight people that wires are convenient.>pairing unpairingsound's like (You) problem for poorfags with shit tws
>>110148939>Better amplification and cleaner sound, yesnewer and good tws don't even have this issue, they sound just as good as decent wired options
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>>110148939more like>plug shitbuds into braided cable>plug other end of cable into pocket>run cable through shirtversus>chinese woman yelling in your ears>click click click>swipe top of phone>disable bluetooth>"DISCONNECTED" even though it was still muted>enable bluetooth>"PAIRING">hold bluetooth button to enter bluetooth settings>hold wireless device>unpair>"DISCONNECTED">"CONNECTED">starts playing sound from PC at full blast>clickclickclick>"BOOOOP">audio device finally shows up on phone>tap to pair>tws plays more ear rape>music plays>feel sense of accomplishment after 20 minutes
>>110149154>universal 5 minute fbi undercover wire hiding procedure, especially in witner and layersvs>I'm fucking retard who can't operate simple plug and play, I'm lost and stumbled upon technolo/g/y board, and I'm proud of my retardation, please rape my face
>>110149177>witner and layersthen just insert buds and put on jacket lmao
>>110149189>zipps the cable>microphonicsmhm, peak audio experience
>>110149154skill issue
>>110148647I guess you don't know what science is
>>110149390>>110149390>>110149390
>>110149365>the normgroids all like this because we scientists said so, we have the documents
