Literally me editionPrevious: >>110081159
I still write most of the code by hand
>>110121940What are you doing? Im sure some places is just anti fun but sometimes you gotta be the fun
>>110121950I think I just give off a general vibe that says "avoid this person, he's a loser"
>>110121955work out, diet, shower every day and buy new clothes. lookism is very realt. ex fatass
>>110121831Honestly, I'm pretty decent at writing code and making clients happy. I'm better at programming than my manager, he's mostly sysadmin with a bit of coding (we are a small company)Asked for a raise and he would accept it but the big boss is a bitch and said no sorry economy is bad. The place is really chill, no need to LLM max and we go golfing every week. Should I change jobs? Help me anons
>>110121966I do all of that. At 39, I'm near the fittest I've ever been in my life. I was a bit fitter two summers ago because I was running a lot more, before I started getting knee pain.
>>110121966>>110121955This.
>>110121966>buy new clothesin this economy?
>>110122034too old unc
>>110122156Yeah, I know. I made some bad career choices in that area. When I was just out of college, I was 22 and my next youngest coworker was like 45. Then when I got to my mid-30s, I started working with zoomers. Everyone has always hated me.
>>110121831millennials are so retardedthese OPs are terrible when they're not tech girly tiktoks
>>110122211these threads aren't being made by millenials.
>>110122258millennials are like 40
>>110122287>>110122258>>110122211Oh my god who caresmentally ill freaks
>>110122287yeah, and these threads aren't being made by 40 years olds. they are being made by some lazy, dumb zoomer janny, or by some bot
After 25yr you are not going to have friends. College is long over, you likely did your Masters online and your friends are long removed from the city you were in a decade ago.
Anyone take a year or longer sabbatical before? I can afford it, have $1.5MM saved up, but I'm worried that it'll be hard to get another job that isn't complete shit in this market. Currently getting paid $300K remote to coast in a toxic job with retard coworkers but I expect to get laid off sometime next year because of bad company performance
>offloading your critical thinking to be a more efficient working slavePeak goy behaviour
>>110122382I had some adult friends after college. As in: met them in my mid-20s, completely independent of anyone I ever knew beforehand. The problem was I met them at a bar and the entire nature of our friend group was presence at that bar.
>>110122258They absolutely are.
>>110122428Not enough money anon you need at least 5million for what you are describing and another 20 million on top of that to retire without working.
>>110122382Unironically true to a large degree.People meme about life being over at 30. It's over WAY before then.QOL is a death spiral from 21 to death. The only way to avoid the decline is to be a loser in college/new grad, but that just means you never got to experience the peak.
>>110122382Are ya'll okay? God damn, the yout's are worrying me, and I have enough bullshit to worry about in my own life in this economy.
>>110122382>>110122553Lol doomers. Fully wrong. My life has just gotten better over time. If you let time pass you by, if you let friends drift away, if you arent trying to make your life better it will get worse.
>>110122582>My life has just gotten better over timeYeah, you're bragging about relativism.If you experienced my life in college you'd immediately want to kill yourself seeing how vast the disparity is.
>>110122592nta but I bet you are one of those who partied hard in uni and entered tech because of the money and nothing else. or maybe didn't even do CS, because you clearly have no clue how depressing CS or engineering schools are.or are a shill/demoralizarion bot.
>>110122627I got a double major in CS + Math. I'm a lot smarter than you are. My life is pretty good, you'd probably kill for my life. But it's still not half as fun/fulfilling as it was when I was younger
>>110122657you clearly don't like CS, don't enjoy doing stuff and wasted your time in uni.or are a nepo baby.or are a bot, which seems more likely.
>>110121831
>>110122744Sure bud.
>>110122592You dont sound like a good individual to interact with.
>first assignment after getting hired>upgrade a project>"oh that's not too bad">it's using jquery that's 18 years old
these cafeteria soups are SO good but man FUCK these stupid wooden compost spoons
>>110122853Use case for caring about a random person's opinion?
>>110122929You tell me, why are you bragging to this guy online?
>>110122888Just use the metal ones dummy
is it true that stress makes you look older?
>>110123221Look at this man after one (1) PI planning with jeets
>>110123221
I can't stand how little money I make, my job sucks and I can't find anything better because I don't have 69 years of experience, my stack at work is outdated and my personal projects don't count as having experience with the billionth new bullshit data tool. I make more money tutoring highschoolers and cleaning construction sites on weekends than I do at my day job. Even if I got one of those "better" more interesting jobs with 500+ applications in 1 hour the money is still shit, it's impossible to build any wealth saving even 1000e a month. Europe fucking sucks.
>>110123325It's gonna get worse too
>>110123143they didnt have any today :(
>>110123325Why not focus on your more lucrative side gigs instead of tech until something changes?
>>110123466Because I have wanted to work in tech since I was 9 years old, and the idealized form of the job itself that I have in my head is at least is very interesting and challenging. I'm afraid if I leave now I'll never be let back in, I can't even find another job to move to now let alone if I had a 1-2 year career gap. But I'm on the verge of quitting anyway and just doing computer stuff as a hobby.
>Java program that fetches a database column containing the name of a java class and then instantiates that class using inflectionnow I've seen fucking everything
>>110121831hmm, I am thinking that is literally meone good thing about growing up in the middle of nowhere is that you know where to get a house for 30k
>>110121890I trade my token quota for alcohol.
>3 month delivery for the iphone duoits so over
>>110123343What crappy company doesn’t have metal spoons in their cafeterias?
>>110121831covid split humanity in two, just like there we humans in eden and outside of it, cain even was afraid of the ousiders because they were abominationsdealing with mental midgets on a regular basis is hell
>>110123910>crappy companyif only he knew
>>110123325You should try blaming it on the immigrants. That will def land you a job.
>Helpdesk for a few months>Surprising amount of tickets are people arguing with the solution, rather than doing it and going on their wayIs this just my company or more widespread?
I do literally nothing all dayThere is no work for me to doI haven't heard from the guy who is supposed to be my boss in a month, we have a biweekly stand-up but last time he didn't even show with no explanationI'm still getting paychecks
in my classalmost all of the females have a job lined upNone of the males do.
>>110121989NO
>>110124590really says a lot about our society
>>110124590it's ok trump ended DEI
>>110124590>Keep screaming that woman earn 70% pay for the same job>Finance finally took notice
>>110123137Only way to deal with blue pilled losers. Their main avenue of attack is claiming that your life is miserable and that's the only reason you don't agree with their shit takes.You can see ITT how they will attack you and claim that you aren't credentialed, how you're a bot, etc.
I've been studying CS for a bit (sorry if off-topic) and there's some Indians in my class and it's just horrible to work and deal with them.When doing group projects it's fucking impossible to get anything done, they just talk in circles and nothing about the stuff that matters. That is if you even understand what they say.Then when we are suppose to do stuff without AI they are all blatantly using AI and not even trying to hide it.Fuck and I live in a country where there's not even many Indians, I've never seen any Indians IRL.Just how horrible is it to have Indian colleagues in real work?
>>110124590At my MSCS graduation the exact same thing was true lmao.All the guys were talking about going on month long trips to Latin America or Spain after graduation.>>110124756They're fucking awful. At [big tech company] two of them conspired against me in an attempt to get me PIPed. Luckily my manager let me know and I was shielded since I had just gotten a very positive performance review but needless to say I got a new job < 3 months after that.... So I guess the jeets kinda won.
>>110121831Finally a based twg OP.>>110121955Smile, invite people to lunch, have hobbies and share them, ask about other people's hobbies.
>>110122592>>110122657>mmhmm yeah im better than you. my life rocks, you couldn't even imagine. you're not that guy bud.
reviewing my notes on the Phenomenology of Spirit during this useless standup
>>110124818That's how life is. Not every anon is a 90 IQ shut-in.
>>110121890I did too a few weeks ago but now my boss offloaded more of his slop projects for me to review. I'm so tired of this AI shit I might blow some of my vacation time to fuck off and hope the PR campaign subsides in the meantime so I can return to reality upon my return.
>>110122592>>110122657I had a lot of sex in college and still graduated with a CS and math degree, I didn't have to get a loan because my parents are wealthy and I got good grades. I have enough money to do whatever I want now and I've told multiple women I don't want to get married. Fuck both of you retards.
>>110124897Literally me but I went to UNC on a full ride because my parents are rich boomers who believe in bootstrapping and wouldn't pay for Yale, Vanderbilt, etc.
>I had a lot of sex in college and still graduated with a CS and math degree, I didn't have to get a loan because my parents are wealthy and I got good grades. I have enough money to do whatever I want now and I've told multiple women I don't want to get married. Fuck both of you retards.
>>110122258I'm a millenial and I made the last two threads.
>>110124930Hah I do actually look like that.
>>110124818He's right, the only people whose 30s are better than their 20s are the people who had shitty 20s. The potential for greatness is much higher
>>110124952Why are you referring to yourself in the third person?
>>110124952Fwiw, I had a shitty 20s and an even shittier 30s. Next year, I will start my shitty 40s. Well, we'll see actually.
>>110124756you are wasting your time studying cs. just like you wasted your time posting in the twg thread instead of utwg.
>>110124930>my parents are wealthy>I have enough money to do whatever I wantoh wow what a surpriseIt's almost like you can just fuck around in life and still have money as long as your parents are rich.Anyway, you're not successful unless you have more money than your parents. You're more of a generational disappointment and sliding down the social ladder rather than up. That's the opposite of success. That's a failure.Otherwise, everybody could just comare themselves to hobos, and say they're successful because they're not homeless. Success is relative to where you started out from. Sliding back isn't success.
>>110125212If your parents weren’t rich despite growing up in the everything bull run where a 1200 SAT got accepted to Harvard they probably weren’t very smart and that’s very heritable. My condolences.
>>110125270I have more money than both my parents put together. I consider myself successfulSuccess is personal, and relative to where to started out from. Take like Barron Trump. And imagine Barron gets a job, and makes like slightly above the median salary. Is Barron Trump successful? I'd say he definitely isn't. I'd argue he fell down the wealth ladder off a cliff. That's a hypothetical, though. Barron will get carried by his dad's money his entire life, and will never have to work a median salary job.
>>110123957Nigga what
two recruiters have sent me messages on linkedin these past few days are we, dare I say, back?
>>110125311>Success is personal, and relative to where to started out fromAll I'm reading is cope
my job is so awesomestill can't believe this is my life now :3
Employment tips : Brag about your crimes online so people are INTIMIDATED by you. If someone tells you "No" ever just threaten to murder them.
we back!
>>110125764many are saying this
what do I do if I dont have the will to keep working? Im unemployed currently, and my body is literally rebelling against me. Its not about problems of finding a job (tho its a part of the dynamic). Its more about me working or about 12 years, and just not feeling it anymore. Help me out guys its a real cry for help and ideas
>>110125764congrats faggot. but you should think about starting a blog or something. because, you know, this isn't your personal blog.
>>11012655085% of this general is anonymous blogposting.see>>110126243>>110125640>>110125311>>110124992>>110124918(etc.)why are you upset when someone blogposts slightly less anonymously than the others?
>>110126686there is a huge difference between talking about job (asking questions, making statements about things you like/hate, comparing your attitudes or experiences, ...) and being a narcissistic attention whoring blog poster. if you don't see it, then maybe you should stop being a faggot.also, you do know avatarposting is a bannable offense, right?
I have to go into the fucking office tomorrow.
>>110126959whats so bad about the office
>>110126686its not anonymous if the faggot doing it is using an avatar
>>110126243you and me anon (same YoE as well). Me personally I'm sticking my head in the sand and doing a lot of agentic coding but very soon I'll have to walk through the desert again.
>>110126243>>110127063there are lots of alternatives. you could marry some rich woman that is willing to be your sugar momma, scam/extort people, produce or hunt your own food, ... be creative, I guess. or maybe ask >>>/biz/
So far this week has been awful, and not in a spooky Halloween way. Like full failure mode awful.On top of that, yesterday mid-day I started crying over no 4chan. I tried to post on various communities I kept bookmarked or googled and they were scary. Maybe sharing my deranged thoughts on the internet is not the best usage of my time, but it's the most social I ever get.>>110127350>Women that are better looking and higher job rank than meIntimidating & French-brained.
>have first round interview>it's surprise technical interview>the entire panel is foreigners>grilling me super hard>won't let up on the technical questions, clearly trying to see where i flounder>feel like an idiot on every question>assume i'm not getting the job>never get a response>message the HR guy 3 weeks later just because i want the rejection because i want my self-hatred to be confirmed>oh my gosh i am so sorry, the team said you did great but i completely dropped the ball, i was supposed to schedule you for a second round and i overlooked it, i can see if they are still interestedI've never had an HR rat just openly admit to fucking up this badly, don't know how to feel. Somehow this is even worse than if I had just failed. I almost feel like I'm in one of those elaborate shit tests you see on linkedin
>>110127735>. I almost feel like I'm in one of those elaborate shit tests you see on linkedin...but once I see posts like that, I actually think there's some possibilty to skinwalk being normie.
anyone working in security here?it has been such a fun day (for people in offensive security at least)
>>110127909Yes and nobody cared about the pho thing. Nobody caries about TLS either.
>>110127948Fuck off, I love pho.
>>110127735Why would you want to work at a place where all your coworkers are foreigners?
>>110128086fully remote
Another morning, another day of commanding claude. Fuck me.
>>110128751>@HANDOFF.md finish whatever the fuck we were doing last night
https://x.com/avstorm/status/2112930113654280449
Left my job a month ago and most of the way done raising a preseed round already. Market is white hot but I can tell it would be really hard if you didn't have a serious resume. I definitely cannot imagine staying at a big co writing code no matter what the pay is, but being a slop cannoneer is a lot more fun making your own product at least so far. If I wasn't doing this, I'd try to just do solo game dev, I also find that quite nice with LLMs since you can always do big context switches from writing the game logic to sound, art, animation, keeps it interesting.
how many different companies did you guys have to interview in order to get your last job?apart from the one i'm pretty sure i aced, i think i'm coming up to 15 or so, i'd say it was a 50/50 split of rejections between HR and technical stages
>>110127909>offensive securityyou keep away undesirables by hurling slurs at them?
>>1101296124 interviews for current job and had another 3 job interviews recently. I don't think any of them went anywhere. I might be better off doing an internal job move within the company. i applied recently to 30 companies so getting 1:10 ratio of interviews sounds good for me. Last time i had applied to 15 companies to get that many interviews.
>>110129612I'm starting a new job next weekGot referred by an ex-coworker a couple of months ago to the company he switched toTypical HR screening, interview with team, interview with director & exec and a week later I got an offer.
>>11012961224 applications 2 interviews 1 offer
>>110123221No but it gave my stomach ulcers which take months to heal.
if your job made you go through less than 5 rounds of interviews, it's probably shit desu
>>110129612~15 (not US)
>>110130211I asked for precut mellons and the lady substituted it for whole mellongs.I'm not married. I don't know what to do with a melon. Now it's just sitting in my refrigerator. I'm thinking about bringing it to work and giving it to a woman there.
>>110129612>how many different companies did you guys have to interview in order to get your last job?It's usually 2-3 whenever I switch jobs but getting an interview is an absolute bitch. Last time I think I gave up and only submitted about 10 applications over the course of six months.
>>110130389My current job had one "interview" and it was basically them convincing me to work there. It's the best place I've ever worked.
>4chan down, emotional breakdown>Try communities and socializing elsewhere>Total gaslighting by "friendly" communities that supposedly share mental illnesses with me>Jumped by terfs, pooners, animal abusers, people with self imposed diets, self diagnosed at age of 50 with furrets, diversity hires that earn more than me while doing nothing >Accepted by helldivers (irl) right wing hate powered fanbaseHow do normalfiends even function? I'm confused.
>>110130802I was too busy working to really be affected by it. Maybe that's why I'm not a furry.
>>110130802kys tranny
>>110130821Funny animals make me relatively happy. I don't like furries and people who are furries for weird reason of needing to be part of a subculture (aka culture appropriating zoomers).>>110130873Ok mad terf pooner. Go be agp about a black t-shirt somewhere else.
>>110126686>seethe first post you linked as an example is a question/asking for help.shan't read any further, opinion discarded
>thursdayHOLD THE LINE
>>110127350>you could marry some rich woman that is willing to be your sugar momma, scam/extort people, produce or hunt your own food, ... be creative, I guess. or maybe ask >>>/biz/nobody wants me, scamming is harder than work, I lost my money on /biz/
>>110129612They came after me, we did one basic screening then live code interview, few days later I got my work equipment. It doesn't pay well but it's WFH in 2026 so I won't complain, I work only 2 to 4 hours a day.
>PHP vulerability resolved in less than 2 daysWow good job 4chins tech team!I expected this place to be down for at least a week
>i got the job, call tomorrow to go over the contractit's not glamorous, but it's above market rate for a nearly full remote position for something i like doing
What am I meant to do now as an AuDHDer?I'm an unfocused social retard but I'm good at pattern recognition and systems thinking... which is what LLMs are good atI do work as a tester, but this current company is aids, and it took me over a year to get this after failing to get another software engineering role after getting laid off from a previous SWE role.It's annoying that every corporate job is a soulless death by jira scrum grind, and every start up is some AI wrapper that'll never turn a profit
>>110131865You either live off gibs for the rest of your life or you enact vengeance on those who robbed you of your calling. Or be a loser and kys but then they win
>>110132393NTA, but I wish I could live off of government shit for the rest of my life as an AuDHDer, but I got a mortgage and other stuff to maintain.I guess I will have to eventually if no one will hire me before my funds run out. Even then, I doubt I will be qualified considering I was already "proven" to be employable and shit.
>>110127735I'm pretty sure that's just a lead up to a "really sorry they went with someone else" email>>110132496>>110132393>Even then, I doubt I will be qualified considering I was already "proven" to be employable and shit.I am that anon (IATA - is that a thing?), this is my problemI'm spasticated enough that my life quality sucks, but probably not spasticated enough to get gibs as I've worked 20 years (though very a really shitty spotty record because of frequent burn outs)I can't even get an assessment because the NHS is so shit, my doc told me that unless I'm going to be homeless or planning to top myself I'm not a priority.
>>110131865>Audhd>Autism with ADHDAren't these literally conflicting conditions? The neurogical causes for both exclude each other.
>>110132393php bought me a apartment and a bike, it can't be that bad
So I decided to turn my life around and go back to college to study Software Engineering. I had many people tell me it's a waste of time and I'll end up homeless after graduating.Is the market that bad and should look into cybersecurity instead? I hate dealing with support fwiw
>>110132688They are often comorbid.
>>110132688You'd like to think that but noKeep in mind that Autism is a massive label and covers several conditions, some are considering that what used to be PDD-NOS was possibly a combination of tism and ADD
>>110132727go get some AI cert, if you need a worthless paper to justify your existance
I myself am a pieces. Specifically the dark electric variant (Pde).
>>110132727>cyber security and *nixWe're full and still overbooked with people who already have experience. I offer paid trainings, tho.>>110132393The issue is that, recently the meta shifted into "something is unremovable until it isn't" and then things get ported or updated almost over night. Especially for internal evil european corp software.
>moved to old gigaboomer state project using visual basic, jquery, bootstrap and in-house government tools from the early 00s>slow as molasses>allowed to use AI>guaranteed duration to 2029did I win?
>>110132727some say ai will replace us allothers say ai companies will crash and burnno one really knows what will happen
>>110132727>I had many people tell me it's a waste of time and I'll end up homeless after graduating.true if you aren't going to a top college (MIT/Stanford/CMU) and/or grind 24/7 winning hackathons and/or have connectionsThe Junior Dev holocaust has been underway for years and it is not slowing down
>>110132669Oh, I am >>110132496, and I am a burger. So the fact you're having a hard time getting that shit in bongland means my goose is especially cooked.
>boss sends out email to team to remind to fill up the time sheet>message him, asking how i should do mine because i did xyz this month>hi anon!>*read 7h30m ago*
>>110133305not your problem
>>110132727lol. you arent turning your life around, you are making it worse by wasting more time and adding debt on top of it. cs is one of the biggest mistakes you could take up right now. nobody is hiring. yet theres 100k retards every year that enroll.
>>110133592you are a heckin' demoralization bot chud
>cat&blankets,>high quality conference headphones optimized for voice,> ̷m̷a̷l̷e̷ ̷a̷t̷t̷e̷n̷t̷i̷o̷n̷ ̷f̷u̷r̷r̷y̷ ̷a̷s̷m̷r̷ high quality freebsd kernel tuning tutorialI don't mind monitoring traffic logs like this. At least I got something to focus after work.
The new grad unemployment stats from the fed are a 5 year moving average which at this point is still mostly data from the boom years. People still go into cs because the fundamental real metric of the state of the job market is price (salary), and until now there hasn’t been clear evidence that it’s going down. But the data is starting to come in about sub-senior level wages dropping. This will be the final nail in the coffin. Once it’s clear that salaries are falling will finally stop choosing cs as major. There already are many preemptively opting out, but in probably a year the whole thing will probably just be over.
>>110133705people will ask advice and get 9 people telling them no its the worst mistake of your life, and then 1 guy saying "pursue your dreams!" and he'll listen to the 1 guy.hey you know what, pursue your dreams. but dont be mad when youre working in an amazon warehouse with illegals all day for like $17 an hour.>>110133818numbers wont change anything. zoomers are chasing a lottery ticket income and full remote. they have brains ruined by gambling and gaming.
>>110133705>you are a heckin' demoralization botthis is true>>110133838>people will ask advice and get 9 people telling them no its the worst mistake of your life, and then 1 guy saying "pursue your dreams!" and he'll listen to the 1 guy.this is unfortunately also truewhat i would suggest is for the guy to properly evaluate the costs of doing whatever he's thinking of doing, but also study down the realistic prospects for going down that path.the fact that he's thinking of doing software engineering OR cyber makes me think he doesn't understand the current market for either, nevermind the technical aspects because they require completely different skillsets
>>110123256most of that is probably sun damage, squinting in the sunny steppe without, lack of sleep, starving, eating only bread, tree bark and shoe leather. Way more shit that just psychological stress
>>110121890You're not missing out, but locally hosted AI is where you will miss out. Grab a 5090 and get a frontier model to help you start out. RAG and a proper harness for command line and linter runs. Being able to be truly lang agnostic is a strength you gain. One frontier models go tits up, the amount of high paying projects for those with local models / domain expertise in specific langs and stacks will go to the moon.
I feel like I have lost most of the interest I had in doing the stuff I do. not sure if it's due to age or something else (I think it's the mediocrity of my coworkers), but I'm tired.
How bad is it out there if you already have industry experience? I'm at 9 years at (giant tech megacorp) and somehow made it through the years of layoffs so far, but I'm sure they're coming for me sooner or later
>can't solve half of leetcode mediums without the brute solution>can't solve some even with hints>can't solve most without failing on edge cases>I interview for Google soonHow FUCKED am I
>>110134383Age?
>>110134679Use AI.>i need to do it myselfNo you don't.
Thank god the winter's coming. Now I can wear the same T-shirt for 4 days instead of 2.
>>110134383>not sure if it's due to age or something elsei still find my line of work fun even after 10y.then again i'm perfectly fine with being a cog in the machine, as long as i have a task to do and i can do it well.>>110134629not great not terrible. there's been layoffs for sure but looking around there's work to be found.partial RTO is a given unless you get lucky.but i guess it depends on what part of IT you're in
So my coworker (indian) kept saying shit about our boss for being white, I (black) actually love the guy but this coworker wouldn't stop shit talking about how the guy is useless, that we should get rid of him, etc. Meanwhile my boss (the white dude) kept telling me how much he likes the coworker (indian) so I said fuck it and actually told him the truth eventually, he was devastated but also very thankful, and even said some other had approched him and told him something similar, ok I thought that was it and I could move on. NOPE. Seems by boss (white) talked with his boss (indian) and now I have a meeting with him (indian) about the matter. Now you might think, "just because they are both indian doesn't mean they will team up", but the coworker (indian) and bosses' boss (indian) go way back before either me or my boss joined. Am I fucked? Like what the hell
Coffee mogs tea :D
>>110134752late 30s>>110134967>then again i'm perfectly fine with being a cog in the machineTbh I'm not, but it's not like I can complain either. but my previous jobs and coworkers were so much better, and I had less drama with the previous companies I worked for (my team got split, and then some were fired).my current coworkers are hypocrite zoomers, and the previous ones were drama-free, but mediocre. a bunch of retards who didn't want to learn anything new, not even when offered.I've been here for 6 years. maybe I'm just tired of this clown show.>>110135076you alreadt posted this.
>client and sales tard keeps ccing the help desk on every email>it makes a new ticket for literally every email>half the queue is this stupid fucking conversation for shit that we don't even handle
Why is quantification THE trend in resumes? If you give me a resume and every point is how you improved X by 75.6% and decreased Y by 11% and generated one billion dollars for the company I am going to think you are lying to me, and even if you are not, it tells me nothing about an engineer anyway; unless you're the CTO you mostly work on what you're told to work on. If you got told to reduce latency of request X and you reduced latency by 90% WOW GENIUS THIS GUY IS GETTING RESULTS if you got told to work on something with more ambiguous results OH NO THIS GUY ISN'T HAVING AN IMPACT WE CAN'T HIRE HIM.>>110121955Maybe, but some jobs are sociable and chill and some jobs are not.
>>110135259AI filtering probably elevates resumes that provide quantifiable numbers
>>110135259it's just normie mind shit. "it's better because it's better so you NEED to have it". everything about resumes and linkedin and white colar work is retarded
>>110135076I can't fucking read this
>>110135076nigga just ask ai to summarize before you post holy shit
>>110134383AI-induced loss of meaning
>>110135705i wish i had an ai gf with a physical body
>>110135259Current flavour of the month unfortunately, replacing the previous cram every keyword into your skills section trendProbably because the average mongtard bar waitress turned 'head of talent' has no idea what 'integrated several payment processor RESTful APIs into the company ERP system' means.But they can understand "improved efficiency of a financial report by 25%", even though all it means is that I noticed a code block was in the wrong place and moving it shaved a minute off a five minute run time
>>110121890I would but my manager is getting on my fucking case for not vibing enough. The last time I got told to not write PR comments by hand. Even those are supposed to be written by Claude.
The only issue with your life is money. You don't have enough money.If you had enough money you would be able to achieve everything you wanted in life.
>the guy how nows how everything works on paternity leave until next year>his backup and currenly appointed tech lead on PTO in two weeks>a pile of deliverables stacked to the sky to do just before the end of the year>no new hires in sight>kidding, the CEO and HR are looking hard for new PMs positions to manage the workloads>30+ on premise deployments that need occasional (read: almost fucking daily) babysiting, each installed slightly different following shit standard non-standard practices.>leave the lowest paid/ least experienced guy (me) on duty in case something breaks, which will inevitably happen.I hope everything crashes and burns tbqh, getting fired would to wonders for my stress levels.
>>110135809I have enough moneyI don't want to do anything anymore
>>110134759I use AI to help me of course but shit I literally just kept failing on stupid shit in basic ass binary search, easy level.I will just have to go the jeet/chink mode of memorizing this shit. Holy fuck I'm getting old.
talking to my indian coworker>do you watch movies?>>no>do you play video games?>>no>play sports?>>nowhat do they do all day outside of work
>>110135958skill up
>>110135958Have you suspected that he's telling you to fuck off and you're too 'tistic to catch on?
>>110135809I don't really even want that much. Food on the table, roof over my head, and maybe some fancy doodad once in a while.
>>110135958import their fellows and stink up the joint
I am a subhuman.
i want to die
>>110136050Same.
>>110136050Same, though though to be more specific the feeling is more like not wanting to live anymore. Slightly different20 years of tech will do that, though it was fine until the last 5 or so years
>>110136025good morning saar
>>110136025>>110136050yeah
>>110132862>>110133018>>110133057>>110133592>>110134023I have the means to finance tuition and I do understand I want to do something related to computers. Worst come to worst I'll be working at an amazon warehouse as you say.What would you say is a good alternative?> you are making it worse by wasting more time and adding debt on top of iI don't think it can be worse than right now.
>>110135958They literally do nothing but make curry, eat curry, and fuckAnd occasionally go on calls for hours to their family back home, who ask when they can be brought over
>>110136465>amazon warehouseThey will have automated their warehouses by that point>What would you say is a good alternative?Become a medical doctor
>>110135814>>kidding, the CEO and HR are looking hard for new PMs positions to manage the workloads>manage the workloadsMore like new whiny assholes that'll drag you into constant meetings to cry that you and the rest of the strapped dev team isn't prioritising their pet project.
I have conquered the AI. I am good at using it. I will never get laid off. My job will never be relocated to a lower-wage area. I will have this job for another thirty years until I reach a peaceful retirement.
>>110135259Part of me wonders if it's because chatGPT started saying it's desireable, possibly as a weird RLHF quirk or as a voluntary social experiment. I didn't do it because it seemed retarded even though the clanker insisted I should and I still found a good job
I watched a VP call a senior dev chickenshit today because he wouldn't 'man up' to SSH into a box to try and unset some fireall rules on a cloud service our team didn't own. I happened to look over at the shared screen when I heard that and the senior dev was 'refusing' to SSH in because a firewall was dropping all his packets to port 22.Imagine being a leader, not know what the fuck your even looking at, and then proceeding to talk shit to a grown ass man when you misunderstand something you don't understand.
>>110135259>Why is quantification THE trend in resumes?What? When hasn't it been? That's the whole point of a resume. Have you never had an annual review? That's basically your resume bullet points for the job. How are you fucking retards even getting jobs?>>110136659lol, the higher up you get in an organization the less they actually know, unless you work for a turboautist like Musk.
>>110132727very /utwg/ coded post
>>110136694Him understand internet traffic wouldn't have made his behavior any less distusting.
Anybody got tips for jumping from networking to cybersecurity? I have an AA in cybersecurity, got my sec+ and cysa+, and have done 2 cybsec internships. Currently I've been a NOC analyst at an ISP for the last year. I'd imagine my experience being in a NOC should lend well to a SOC position. Been toying with going back to school while working and getting my BA, but school for me is like pulling teeth
>>110135809There aren’t many pet-peeves I have more frustrating than so many people’s inability to understand this obvious fact. It’s like baby’s first grown-up thought. And there are people that go there whole life without ever having it.
>>110136694>unless you work for a turboautist like Musk.Imagine believing Musk actually knows anything about computers
>>110136879You're posting to someone that climbed the ladder by sucking cocks
I wonder if I should go full Patrick Batemate mode and change my resume to say* Automated entire departments out of jobs, saving the company hundreds of thousands in payroll
>>110135705I don't even use glorified chatbots.the loss of interest been a slow process...
>>110136879>Imagine believing Musk actually knows anything about computersHe understands the basics of material cost(s) vs time, which is a very basic thing most low level people don't even think about (as in it has never crossed their mind). Just having that inquisitive and curious mindset will make you a great leader so long as you have a sense of humor and keep your ego in check (unlike said VP/senior guy mentioned in the OP)>>110136887If you don't consider the cost of each of your decisions, then you're not in a leadership role. If you are residing in one of those roles, you're a DEI hire (99% of them are for local tax breaks in your leftist shithole cities). All upper level management decisions are based on cost, no exception. Most of them are just so stupid, the only reason you don't hear about them is NDAs and the faggot lawyers.
>>110136959>He understands the basics of material cost(s) vs timeWhat the fuck does that have to do with SSHing into another machine or knowing that a firewall you don't control won't let you do it means you just can't do it has to do with what you said?
>>110136959>as you have a sense of humor and keep your ego in check>sense of humor >ego in check>Muskhahahahahaha
>>110121831>Received email from recruiter & request for updated resume.>Its from a company that I applied for over 10 years ago that ghosted me.Fuck off. Why the fuck would you think I'm still unemployed.
PAYDAY TOMORROW!!!!!!
>>110137179It means you know this set of events ultimately lead to losing money by paying people to do nothing because they can't. It's on them as a manager to actually bother having some coherent thought like >Harass owner of cloud service to let the other team do their jobs
>check my paystub>my tax deduction is higher than most euro's monthly salary
>>110137842Kek same 4k a month in taxes. Also my company is going to change from 24 paychecks back to 26 paychecks. Hell i wish i could just have 6 paychecks or even one paycheck.
>>110132393PHP programmers drive lambos
>>110137876>Kek same 4k a month in taxes.your fault for living in a third-world shithole
>>110134838That's gross. Need to change at least daily, or at least inside and outside and sleep clothes.>>110135112Both are good. Hard to drink coffee after noon.>>110135809But once you have money you die and lose the money. Besides how'd you purchase a ticket to Marseille and a cardboard with "refugees welcome" or the fom "students need harsher conditions" so you can get sent to pmd?>>110136465>something related to computersThat's vague posting but as your real life.
>>110138077>Hard to drink coffee after noon.
>>110135809>everything you wantedI wanted to marry a woman who loves me for who I am in my early 20s. Everything else I wanted in life is basically sport.
>>110138086.. you drink real coffee.>Americans drink coffee colored sweet milk drink>Asians drink watered Americano
>>110138106I wanted to die since early elementary school. Guess how that went.
>>110138211And everything else is just prioritizing others verbalized or not expectations and desires. At least that makes me good at being employed because I always know what to do whenever I like it myself or not.
>>110138144>Americans drink coffee colored sweet milk drinkAnd it's delicious. Look, I'll pull my own doppio in the mornings when I got no time, but I've also seen how much sugar Italians take with their shots. I will not be jusged by those people.Now Bulgarians? I once ordered a coffee at a local Bulgarian cafe/wine bar at 6 p.m. The waitress brought me a coffee cup with 8oz of espresso in it, stood there and watched me drink it the whole thing, slapped me on the back, hard. and then they started blasted Numa Numa (which I'm pretty sure is Romanian but whatever). I don't fuck with Bulgarians.
this PHP shit is going to turn me into the fucking joker. my company has consolidated so much that 2-3 dudes are responsible for 500+ domains half of which nobody knows anything about but it's all "a priority to fix" by tomorrow it's all so fucked i'm so fucked i hate it i hate it i hate it aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>latest cto stunt is forcing devs to follow an "agentic plan" when working on features that is basically a bunch of .md files in a sharepoint folderlmao thank god i'm about to leave this godforsaken company
>>110138410>YFW when they're all still PHP 7
>>110138423we have hundreds of servers in production running php 5. we are not a serious company.
>>110138434>hundreds of servers in production running php 5
>>110138395Sounds like diabetes.Do you also call "toast" a "bread"?>stood there and watched me drink it the whole thingSchadenfreude. Smart.
>>110138410just tell your boss it was too late, they all got hacked already and turned into a bitcoin mining botnet
>>110138465>Frieren and co.>HK>Warsaw pact weaponryNein, nein, nein!
>>110138517Yes.Now, enjoy your Friday, week 43.
>>110136465>What would you say is a good alternative?domestic terrorism
you know what? I love the california liberal lifestyle. Yes I do love having the brand new iphone 18 pro max, shopping at sprouts, spending double the money buying organic food, eating out of compostable bowls, drinking my daily pumpkin spiced latte from a paper cup, attending tech conferences, wearing turtlenecks, and making a LOT of money in an abstract job no one understands!!!
>>110121831 Could you provide an updated timeline on when we can expect completion?
>>110138736You sound distressed. Do you need any help?
>>110138866that's an llm someone programmed to avatarfag and larp as a faangot
>>110138874It's the pajeet bot that larps as an apple employee in the phone general
>>110138874That'd explain why the Indio-Canadian helicopter is gone.
>>110121831Why don't you get a job in a bank? it's super comfy.
>>110139035>judeo boomer hellsounds terrible
>>110139035aren't most of those systems like a billion years old
>>110139058yesit's great for employabilityterrible for enjoying your life
>>110139035I saw some job ads for a bank but they were so AIpilled that I didn't even entertain the thought. Literally "you're falling behind" shit.
>>110137662I got paid today too!
>>110122864That's easy. Have Claude do it in an afternoon
>>110139106If you aren't using AI you're falling behind.
>>110124756If I were you I would drop the fuck out. Entry level jobs do not exist
>>110135076I think you're the indian
>>110135171Call them out you fucking pussy. This is why corporate America sucks fucking balls, pussys like you don't speak up
>>110136659>Senior dev doesn't know the standard for arbitrary numbers is 2222Ngmi
>>110139220Not that guy but I've decided to stop calling out stupid shit. My new motto is "it's just a job". I go in, do my hours, collect my money, go home. No reason to try to make the company a better place, since the management doesn't appreciate you doing it anyway.
reminder to report the avatarfagging bot
>>110139282not sure what you mean. quick call?
they have some fucking frat bro coding the new website and its always broken. this guy was friend's with the sales head
>Brought the list of internal job openings >Made a Claude skill to stalk all the engineers in that team for their PRs and designs >Using it on myself first for benchmarking I will not do pic-rel but I'm interested in the results.
>feature been broken so long QA didn't even know it existed
might just go into the office today. it's going to be empty anyways.
>>110138410>Just use AILol everywhere is like this. You're expected to do the work of 10-20 people now.
>>110139035The banks in my area are the worst at posting ghost jobsThey repost like 10 software positions a day
>haven't opened an IDE once since starting my new jobI just claude code on the terminal
>>110140722is this the new reality ?
>>110140810yes it's the new normal.
Does my resume need a summary at the top or not? I know the truth already, some people will get the ick if I add one some people will get the ick if I don't, and both types of people will state their preference as absolute fact.
tgif am i right fellas
>>110140865>Resume>Ick>Applying for jobsNGMI, get good at mowing lawns or something.
>>110084617i got an offer for 38k straight out of the gate :Di did try to weasel in an extra 1k but she didn't budge, but i'm 100% happy either way
Christ fuck where am i supposed to find friends, income, and fulfilling activities to do while not sacrificing my interests and hobbies
>>110121890I write all of it by hand. I work for a heavily regulated dinosaur industry, we have to. But I'm slowly realizing I'm missing out by not building up skills orchestrating AI agents.Even if those skills become obsolete, I have to get good at learning quickly again and also identifying bottlenecks.
>>110141308>friends>income>fulfilling activities...interests and hobbiespick 2
>jeet showing us some code>he has his IDE set to a custom font that looks like comic sansgod bless their simple minds
>>110140898pray to allah that your employer ends your life before i do because i will not be as merciful.
>>110141664don't call them jeets bro
>>110122382>>110122553My friend is in his 30s, moved to a new city with his wife, and in like a year he was introducing me to an entire new friend group of his. You literally just need to make one friend that's extroverted and you're set. It's a different world for them.
>>110141308>>110141550How about income and friends that do fulfilling on me? My job is interesting already :thinking:
Fuck it, as a dev I had 3 options to secure my career, become a boring analyst, become a cybersecurity expert, or completly change my life and become a plumber.I decided to become a manual labor worker, I want to give cybsec a chance. To see if it awakens something in me.What's a good entry into this world though. A specific website with challenges, a course, going back to school? Every options is available to me, just spoonfeed me a little bit please.
>>110141852This isn't the place for that, and you already asked this question here.>>>/g/utwg
>>110141852PhD in cybersecurity and CEH & CISSP.
>>110140898HA HA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>110122211Still mad no one clicked on your shittok link the other thread?
>>110140898>tgifPicture related+what others promised you.Also: fml because no matter how I promise myself, I'm going to be depressed and hysterical, anyways regardless. Anyways, I figured out that I actually can use the llm that I'm setting up for actually setting it as agent. Boosted 110iq moment.>>110141852>cybsecHow much will you pay for your apprenticeship?
>>110135076They think you had their back because you were brown. What you should have done is told timmy to shut his fucking mouth about what you told him. Good on you though for saying something.
>muh friends = QOLsince when /g/ is a normalnigger board
>>110141852if you dont know anybody and dont have multiple years of experience, nobody is going to hire you. getting hired even with multiple years of experience is difficult right now.asking this now is like when your 65 year old uncle asked you "how do i buy that bitcoin stuff?" a few years ago.other anon is right btw this is a utwg question.
>>110142474>Not wanting friends to do male stuff together>>110142495>>110142267I need money and legit consider coaching as an option for an extra income. I already do that as part of my job.
>>110142519Furrniggers don't have jobs. Stop fucking spamming.
>>110142519how many times are you going to beg for clients? nobody is going to be coached by you.coaching doesn't matter. years of experience and networking matter. it doesn't matter how good you are if you have neither of those.every position posted for any job gets multiple hundreds of applicants with experience. you are not breaking into tech as it is. people need to get realistic about life and stop asking stupid ass questions here.if anyone had any tricks to getting a job they sure as hell arent sharing them on this board for the world to abuse.
>>110142570Sorry. I was just checking to see how much people would offer.
>>110142554current state of 4cucks o algo assim these people pay for golden pass by the way
Just started new job 1 month ago and already hate it. All the rosy assumptions I made turned out to be false. This is my nightmare scenario.
Our scrum master put in their 2 week notice. This is it, without a scrum master, the team will eventually crumble and fall apart. No one can take up the mantle of a job with such specialized skills.How could this have happened???
>>110141923I didn't>>110141938Not sure I'm willing to spend time in school, I wand to teach myself and see how it works out >>110142267Depends, for something of real quality, a lot.>>110142495I know people. I'm already in the field, if I ask correctly I might get the job. And aren't you exagerating a little bit? It's not like I'm a total ignorant to IT. I had networking classes at school bro. It's like the basics of the basics but still.
>>110142681it is not an exaggeration. everyone has a degree now. youre going against people with full cybersec degrees and certs, and potentially experience. having a few classes isnt exactly making you stand out. requirements have been lowered across the board for most everything since covid. the number of grads in tech has already outpaced the job growth expected for the decade. those bls estimates were pre covid too.if somebody will give you a job then go for it. whether you get in or not really depends on knowing somebody, or getting extremely lucky.
How do immigrate to the US from a shithole country (Russia)I don't want to live in this shithole anons
>>110142681>>110142870and look im not trying to just demoralize for the fun of it. this is how things are. even when you break in its a never ending rat race and wondering if you are getting culled or if theres any future in your career. never ending learning. i wouldnt have chosen this had i known how it would turn out.it really confuses me when i see so many people who want to break into tech. especially dullard zoomers who dont care, but are just addicted to the internet and want full remote. there are easier ways to make a living. even if youre decent at it this is just a stressful path.
>>110142870>>110142907You forgot the the public sector offers a ton of jobs to people less than competent, I've seen it and I still see it. So competing against them isn't that hard + if you know the correct people you can get an entry job wherever you want if the guy has what it takes to get you in. I get your point and would be agreeing if it was a few years ago but it depends on your location, your current life situation and like I said, in my own team right now, there are a ton of unskilled people who enters the IT world because they know a guy. And I know a few guys. They're not majesty but they can create opportunities at least. Still it wasn't my question.
>>110142652OH GOD NOT THE SCRUM MASTER OOOOOOOAAAAAAAAUUGUGHGGHHGHHGGHGHG
I've lost sense of every codebase I work on after switching from cursor to claudeEverything is like a blur. I don't even know the repos I'm working on anymore. There's a dozen
>>110142652>Our scrum master put in their 2 week noticeIs he retarded? He could've stayed put and collect paychecks while having AI do everything until they fire him.
>>110142880the US is the biggest shithole on the planet
is this shit economic/politic/social system going to hold until we're dead or will there be a cataclysmic event that changes everything in our lifetime
>>110143527Is that why you live there?
A coworker keeps being a faggot and trying to normalize being disrespectful to me. I think I handle it appropriately, by simply defending myself in the moment without reacting in kind and making him come off as the aggressor (I hope). It's so tiring tho and I wish he would just stop being a faggot
>have to rely on another team for infrastructure configuration and getting an application client>it's been months now>they broke all our testing environment and ghosted us
>becoming dependable>againfuckers on my team don't learn tools and get away too easy saying "I dunno how to do it". I already made this mistake once, don't wanna repeat it again
>>110143634escalate that shit nigga, what the fuck is your manager doing?
>>110143634ya, SOC shit is retarded. would be better if I end-to-end owned the whole process, but no one wants to hear that. OK enjoy shit taking 3 months, plus tip, and burn your whole SOW waiting.
>>110143542if line keeps going up? sure. If line stops going up, we might actually see real ass change.
>>110142652this happens at my job all the time. we get these "project managers" who end up quitting because they know their job is fucking stupid or the projects are utterly fucked.
>Google recruiter canceled on me>one last application is still aliveI'm NGMI bros... It's over
>>110143764I'm sorry anon. I wasted my time doing that with M$ and I wish I had my time back. The "salary range" was basically a joke too, desu. real weird.
>>110142907Euro market must be genetically different. It's just been find a job and work a few years for as long as I remember. Last position was 5 years of full remote dick stroking. If I manage to pass the next set of technicals it's probably a few more years until next level of actual AI we'll and truly buck breaks the industry.
>>110135259what do you want instead
>>110135259because HR is fucking braindead and the biggest reason why companies go to shit
>>110142907I should've just become a lawyer, but had zero idea about prestige jobs, because everyone in my family is uneducated. History and civics was fucking piss easy in high school compared to math and physics.
>>110143570example of exactly what he says and what you say back
>>110144740here is an example from a few days ago that is easy to explain without too much context>a new guy has been hired and I only talked to him once for like 5 minutes>in a group of colleagues where the new guy is not present, I ask what his name was again>faggot tries to paint it as the most autistic and awkward question ever made but with an endearing tone>I point out it's perfectly normal to not remember a name in these circumstances>colleague that I'm on good terms with agreesI kind of don't want to do anything about it besides stand up for myself because his behavior seems socially self-destructive, but it wears me out
>two hours to respond to my slackmfs dont even pretend to work on fridays
>>110142880Unironically, are you even able to leave Russia?
>>110142907>muh passionDude fuck off, no one actually wants to work, full remote and getting paid to sleep and fuck around on the internet all day is what everyone wants. There are no easier ways to make a living because actually going to work is the shittiest part about any job. So tired of the normalfag gaslighting.
>>110144920I would have said to faggot: right, right... oh shit...what is your name again?
whoever makes the next one please use a cute pic that shit stays on the catalog for an eternity now
>>110143570Just don't talk to him. Act like he's not even there. Don't hop in to follow up on what he says, don't acknowledge that you even hear him. Now... whenever he is talking directly to you, just develop a set of one-liner canned responses that you use in rotation.>Thank you for sharing.>I hope you feel better now that you got that of your chest.>I hope saying that makes you feel powerful inside.>interesting perspective.>wow, you outdid yourself with that one.>I guess everybody loves their own opinion.say it. stare at him silently for 3 seconds. if he responds, watch him as he speaks, once he's finished back to your conversation. if he doesn't respond, after the 3 second stare, go back to your conversation.keep a neutral relaxed face the whole time. he's just a shreaking chimp with self-esteem issues. not your problem.
>>110143570here, just learn this shit: https://www.youtube.com/@Mindplicit
>>110145144you are clueless
>>110143883I guess it's not worth it to chase after fagman. The potentially higher salary is not worth the time wasted in preparing for interviews and then working yourself to death just to survive.
>>110145765okay but it is worth it because its comfy asf inside and we get free lattes and the cafeterias are awesome and like tons of benefits :)
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