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What software are you hoping gets decompiled for Linux?

>>110117672
photoshop

>>110117678
You already got ArtCraft for that

>>110117682
still kinda buggy. i still run cs6 trough wine.

>>110117513
That is a man.

Friendly reminder to verify signatures for your isos/software.

>>110117808
doesn't mean shit if the installer doesn't check itself for integrity after you boot the iso.

I've now followed the "how to clean Linux Mint safely" guide I saw recommended (at least the relevant parts), as well as tried other suggestions, yet my root filesystem is still full. There's just one old kernel, Timeshift has no backups, thumbnails, logs, fonts, and software packages are all gone. I think. The exception is a few gigs of flatpaks which won't delete but I don't think that's the real issue. The only advice I haven't followed was essentially "open disk usage analyzer and delete the junk", because I have no idea what can be deleted.

How do I fix this? How do I prevent it filling up again?

>>110118009
>The only advice I haven't followed was essentially "open disk usage analyzer and delete the junk", because I have no idea what can be deleted.
Post a screenshot of your root folder in the disk usage analyzer so people can see where's the bloat.

>>110117709
hot

>>110118055
I couldn't figure out how to view the root in that program, but I guess it doesn't matter because I deleted a bunch of games from my old Windows folders and that somehow seems to have freed up 45 gigs of file system space. Or maybe something else did, I have no idea, but I can apply software updates again so I guess it's fixed.

>>110118009
Flatpaks can be huge
Old logs can gather for years
If you didn't separate / and /home partition , it might be filling from that point

du, df, or check out some gui option for disk usage

>>110118009
how big is your root?

>>110118127
>>110118147
see
>>110118114

It fixed itself, somehow.

>>110118114
Sounds like you did a single partition install, so every file you have is adding to the root /

>>110118186
But then why does it say "file system free space 49 GB" when I've now got 750 GB free on the drive? Anyways like I said it doesn't really matter now. Hopefully it's never a problem again.

>>110118210
post the output of

lsblk -f

>>110118147
>how big is your root?
I'm not a hardware guy but Gemini says its a 2.5"

>>110118500
perfectly average sized root

>>110117672
safe exam browser :'(

>>110118500
Ha

>>110117672
fl studio

>>110117682
that shit is genuinely unusable

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>>110131208

IT'S OVER FOR WINSHITS

Dows sounds like dos
Dos is pre windows
Dos also means two in spanish
Windows is dos2
Win2 sounds like gentoo

Is ghostwriter the best markdown editor for linux? It womfy.

>>110119104
surely you could have put OS/2 in there somehow

>ultrawide
>4k
>2 1080
have to finally move to wayland to make them all work

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Different address books (orders, delivery, family, ...) + filters like
>is in address book <X> => put into folder <Y>
to sort incoming email. Any better solutions to achieve clean inbox that are easy to maintain?

>>110118114
If you're playing Windows games on Linux expect each game to take up an additional 1GB of storage compared to what it would on Windows, since that's roughly what a WINE Prefix would consume. Unless you install all games into a single prefix, but this is not a default on something like Steam.

>>110119168
I really like it too, though the UI is a bit silly looking while you resize the window.

I'm on wayland, what top bar/status bar do I use that's minimal and takes very little if no config to setup? I know of noctalia, quickshell, and dankmaterialshell (to be honest I don't even know if these are just bars because of the shell in their name). Tried waybar because it seemed minimal but it needs like two config files and CSS just to show a bunch of broken rainbow boxes on my screen so I got filtered and deleted it

>>110122127
>to be honest I don't even know if these are just bars because of the shell in their name
I think some of them pull in extras like a notification OSD and Polkit agent, etc, they try to be more complete which is a good thing because these are things you would have to add yourself anyway.

$ uname -r
7.3.0-gentoo

I can feel it. It's way faster

status update: i gave up on on zfs on gentoo and went back to xfs

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>>110122653 >>110122798 >>110122850 >>110122909 >>110127231

I have zero Linux experience, looking for a distro for a craptop with these specs:
>Intel Celeron N2807 2C/2T @1.58GHz/2.16GHz burst (its a 4.3W SoC from 2014, so just picture an ancient low power Core 2 Duo or something)
>4GB RAM
>Generic 5400RPM laptop HDD
This is the only laptop I own, haven't used it in years but I'm gonna need a laptop for college just for chromebook-tier tasks. I already tested it with Windows 10 LTSC, and while it is capable of these things, there is too much system overhead for it be used comfortably. The original 8.1 install was much smoother but it has been EoL since 2023, so Linux seems to be the only viable option here. Any ideas? The guide on the thread didn't inspire any confidence.

>>110122127
if you don't want to mess with the dotfiles i'd say just go with noctalia

>>110122603
linux mint with xfce; consider upgrading to cheap ssd

>>110122127
I use noctalia because it's not a ram hog like quickshell. It has a bar (or multiple bars), a launcher, notifications, menus for network, clipboard, sound, etc. Basically it's an entire desktop UI without the deeper system integration traditional DEs have.
I used to use all these extra programs like waybar, rofi as a launcher, some notification daemon, etc. and it was a mess. Noctalia just does all that out of the box

>>110122603
>Celeron N2807 2C/2T
If youre willing to pay $100 there is far more modern ewaste devices available

>>110122653
I do have an old 500GB SATA 3 SSD that is currently unused so it is an immediate option, although I'm not sure if the CPU would help. I'm kind of a techlet so I don't really know. Perhaps I will try Mint XFCE on the HDD first and clone to the SSD later if it provides any noticeable improvement.
>>110122798
I am Jewish with my money. If I already have an option that may work, then why not? It was a gift from my parents when I was a kid, so uding it for the productive use that it was intended for would be a nice sentiment. I don't want to remember this laptop as the goonbook.

>>110122603
Maybe antix, use old kernels for better performance, well it will still run newer kernels but it doesn't benefit old computers.

>>110122849
>SSD later if it provides any noticeable improvement
It definitely will. I put a cheap ssd into my old thinkpad and it makes a huge difference

>>110122603
Your biggest bottleneck is your storage. The rest would work fine with any distro and desktop environment. Here's your options:
1. Get an SSD and install any Linux distro you want.
2. Keep using the HDD, but be picky to install smaller and simpler distros to avoid your OS having to read from disk too much.

Option 2 splits off into 2 sub-options:
2.1. Limit yourself to distros with very lightweight DEs or WMs.
Stuff like Q4OS with Trinity, MX Linux with Fluxbox, Fedora with Sway, antiX with IceWM/Fluxbox, etc. The lighter/simpler a DE is and the less background services it has, the less busy your HDD will be and the snappier things will feel. Fluxbox, Openbox and Sway specifically are often used in cheap Chinese Linux handhelds that run the OS from a microSD card and have 500MB-2GB of RAM.
Slightly heavier but more usable options would be Q4OS with KDE and MX Linux with Xfce.
2.2. Install an older distro that is still supported.
Ubuntu 16/18/20 LTS and Debian 11 are still supported for a few more years. Older software has less code and features, so you'll save system resources that way. You'll still get security updates with these.

>>110118788
kk mo

>>110122849
>SSD
>if it provides any noticeable improvement
It does. Opening stuff is much faster on an SSD. It's the difference between your system settings opening in 0.5-2 seconds on an SSD vs 2-8 seconds on an HDD. Also since you have a low amount of RAM your OS won't cache things into memory as often, so re-opening your settings will take a while too.
Now imagine this difference across hundreds of your system files and services that are used daily.

I would personally rather use an ultra-light distro that runs fully in-memory (Porteus, Puppy, antiX, etc.), no matter how minimal/barebones it is, than have to go back to using HDDs (especially ones that old).

I have a question about which distro to use next.
I've been on manjaro for my laptops for years but one thing I've come to hate about rolling releases is that if you forget to update for a little while then the next time you do the upgrade itself has issues. The package manager I guess can't resolve some shit sometimes.

I'm thinking of going for a non-rolling release but I'm not sure what is good these days for a laptop platform and one that plays nice with video games. It's not a gaming laptop but I don't want to have to struggle to install steam and the indie games that I can enjoy with that. Manjaro has given me no issues there.

>>110122547
told you to give ZBM a try.

>>110123385
Bazzite

>>110117709
That is a cartoon, actually.

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>>110118500
That's a nice root. Mine has a secret flare

>>110117814
Elaborate

>>110122127
I'm working on making mine compatible with distros other than Omarchy so when I do, I'll post it here

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>>110123743

>>110117672
SolidWorks

>>110124153
You mean Solidcraft?

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>>110128716

>>110124172
No, I mean SolidWorks.
I need it for work, and alternatives aren't accepted. It alone forces me to dual-boot and I hate it.

>have a remote connection with Sunshine/Moonlight via Tailscale
>know my Sunshine host PC (running Mint) has a CPU issue that makes it randomly restart
>set up Sunshine to autostart in case that happens while I'm away
>worked well enough, able to remote into it even after it reboots itself
>since yesterday for some reason the PC appears as offline in Moonlight
>appears online in Tailscale and can be pinged
>can't SSH into it because I didn't set up anything
What could be the issue here? PC is on and Sunshine crashed for some reason? PC rebooted but didn't get far enough in the boot process to autostart Sunshine?

>>110117513
It's really disappointing to see Flathub's lack of response to:
https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/

All of the browsers are affected by this (except maybe Firefox because they publish their own Flatpaks. I haven't tested that yet).

Where is the security team?

Flathub has great build automation that has automatically picked up the fixes:
>Edge
https://github.com/flathub/com.microsoft.Edge/pull/918
>Opera
https://github.com/flathub/com.opera.Opera/pull/300
>Brave
https://github.com/flathub/com.brave.Browser/pulls
(Seems Brave haven't published anything or the build automation is broken. Oops, shill lion is insecure)
>Chrome
https://github.com/flathub/com.google.Chrome/pull/623

They have the automation, the builds are built successfully, the fix is there for people to manually grab but nobody is awake to push it to Flathub.

Somebody needs to throw some money Flathub's way to get a proper security team.

>>110124801
might be a dumb question but you're sure sshd is still operating properly?

>>110125241
I can't say for sure but attempting to ssh into the machine gives me a "Connection refused" message

Has anyone updated to Plasma 6.8.x yet? I'm wondering if it uses "significantly" (50MB+) less RAM than 6.7.x. I think I'm switching from LXQt because Plasma only uses ~400MB more, and is much more complete and less hacky.

I'm still new to Linux, but I'm legitimately having a good time experimenting with Arch Linux. I always thought in my older age that I would stick to Windows and never touch Linux, but here I am.

>>110126350
whats stopping you from just installing kde, switching your session, and checking it out for yourself?

>>110126350
>Discover’s update notifier now uses less memory, too.
BIG if true. Surely Akonadi is next?

>>110117513
fyi distro.moe no longer exists

>>110117513
i a linux begginer should i get concerned by 2gigs of ram usage while idle, i use debian

>>110126921
thats normal if youre using gnome

>>110122603
Lubuntu or MX Linux with Fluxbox.

As for your HDD if you got money for an older SSD you can install that in there and it'll run much faster. I got a laptop from 2009, installed Lubuntu on it and going from a 5400rpm HDD to an SSD that ran at Sata 2 speeds it booted in less than half the time.

is rpmfusion still down?

>>110127369
is that what happened? i got an ssl error from the nvidia rpm repo earlier. kinda fun watching the world implode.

>>110126921
Nah. A fully packaged desktop consumes 1-1.5GB of RAM at idle. Only desktops like Xfce and LXQt that were designed from ground to be lightweight consume less RAM by default. Not like it matters when browsers are the real memory slurpers.

>>110126921
>>110127091
"RAM usage" can mean so many things.
>used
>shared
>cached
>>110127730
The funny thing is when you fire up that web browser, the web browser uses some libraries anyway so it's all the same if you had those libraries in use by the desktop from the start.
So: a fully featured desktop stopped being that bad when the user actually started using some programs.
>>110126350
Stupid question but where do you get those numbers?

>>110126484
Expanding on this with a question: how many of you daily drive Arch? Is it feasible as an every day distro?

>>110127982
i used it for 12 years as my main desktop os, so yea i'd say so. there's a lot of memes about arch breaking all the time, but it's 50% bullshit and 50% "i gave up on the first hurdle", not wanting to spend a minute on it
if you're capable of reading and looking up error messages from time to time, you'll be just fine.

>>110128006
well more like 50% giving up OR just the fact it comes with nothing ootb. for new users starting off with nothing and having to actually work out what software you want to install is already too much, but there's arch-based distros like cachy and endeavour if you want that "set up for you" kind of system

>>110128006
I don't get the question. What do you do with any distribution unless "daily drive" it?
>>110128006
Arch works brilliantly if you only use software that works with it. As in only use stuff from the official repositories.
>>110128031
What's there to give up? Is this about people attempting an install and failing it at some point? Or actually making it boot up but figuring there's no official support for some exotic program they need?

>>110128053
The question I think is primarily aimed at those who constantly distrohop and don't use one for more than a week at a time.

>>110128053
>What do you do with any distribution unless "daily drive" it?
i presume he means something like "can i rely on this as my primary and only os for my main pc", as in things are going to work when you need them to and that everything one would typically need is available on it.
>What's there to give up? Is this about people attempting an install and failing it at some point? Or actually making it boot up but figuring there's no official support for some exotic program they need?
i mean like if they say, run into an error with pacman such as signature verification failures or "exists in filesystem" errors, or they make a mistake themselves such as doing a partial upgrade and bork something that way, and just go back to windows instead of sticking with it and looking up how to get around it

>>110128053
>As in only use stuff from the official repositories.
you can use stuff from the aur as well if you just stick to things maintained by the actually authors

>>110128117
the aur was THE thing that kept me on arch for so long. /everything/ is on it, all the neat little tools and programs that are too niche or new to be in major distro repos.
but yes, you are expected to verify them yourself, as they are not vetted by distro maintainers

>>110128087
>>110128094
Yep these are what I meant.

i updated kde today and now it feels like my main monitor isn't the correct refresh rate (170hz), all the animations look choppy and games feel worse. the animation for opening and closing windows is fine on my vertical monitor (120hz) so i have no idea why it just suddenly stopped working on my main one, anyone have any ideas?

>>110119104

visits library to read powertools
writes down few notes

>>110124670

what os work solidworks run on

>>110128117
>aur
It was the only real reason to use Arch though, and unless you're feeding every PKGBUILD into an LLM (would that even be enough?) you're taking a massive risk. Without the AUR arch doesn't really offer much. Pacman is really not that great.

>>110128469

cannot divide 170 with 60 30 50 25

>>110128742
actually i've noticed it's only when my terminal is on the screen the animations of other applications lag, this is very strange

>>110128792
>>110128469
never fucking mind, for some reason the blue light filter is just making everything lag now

>>110128739
>feeding every PKGBUILD into an LLM
Just use your LLM rotted brain for a moment and check two things. 1. Does the PKGBUILD use the correct upstream url? 2. Does the PKGBUILD follow the upstream installation instructions?
Once you have verified that you only need to check the diff which takes 5 seconds

>>110125131
What are you even talking about? The certificates update independently of the browser. There's no issue here. You can even confirm this yourself by opening that link on an outdated browser version.

>>110126350
RAM usage on KDE can be reduced by 100-150MB by just disabling the on-screen keyboard functionality.

Any web wallpaper engines?

i installed arch some time ago but didnt install any DE
couldnt decide between gnome, xfce and plasma

>>110130094
just try them out for a bit

>>110128739
you are definitely overblowing how unsafe the aur is

>>110130094
Start with Xfce or Cinnamon (Windows-like layout by default and a tad more modern UI), or if you need full Wayland go for GNOME or KDE depending on how much you like to thinker with the settings of the desktop and its applications.

>>110130094
Plasma > Gnome >>> not using a DE >>> everything else

is it stupid to buy a $10 16GB optane SSD from china to use as my swap partition?

>>110130582
Nope, better than mucking up your main drive.

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I created a fork of heroic games launcher with steam library and full steam integration support.

https://gitea.com/slycat555/valiant-launcher

damn, apt upgrade runs sooo slow today. I guess entire world must be updooting lol.

>>110130637
More than half of servers run on PHP, so yeah.

>>110130094
Depending on your disk space, you can just install them all and swap back and forth until you find something cozy, then remove the others.

I've always been an archfag since I switched from windows, but cachyos looks tempting for a new gaming pc I'm building. Does anyone have experience with it? I'm thinking the pitfalls of a small maintainer base will probably outweigh any performance or practicality gains when I could simply use the zen kernel on arch

I heard that there's a trillion 9.0+ CVEs around rn being patched in secret and the PHP one was only announced because it leaked, is that true?

>>110131122
ai bro propaganda

>>110119056
Sure, but kernel anticheats are still out. I'm not loading a random anticheat module into my kernel.

>>110130335
Use case for Gnome? TTY is enough.

My NixOS config is very comfy now. I also figured out how to install packages from arbitrary nixpkgs commits. Updates literally can't fuck me anymore. I'm unfuckable

>>110131233
we know you are, anon

>>110131115
if you think you'll benefit from the slight performance boost than sure, but otherwise it's the equivalent of just reinstalling arch with an update script

>>110117513
I can confirm with the latest KDE Plasma 6.8.1 and a couple of GitHub programs that eGPU support works as God intended on Linux (Gentoo).

any of you guys use bees?
https://github.com/Zygo/bees/tree/master
it's basically an online btrfs deduplicator, just tried it on my root/home disc and saved about 40GB, which is pretty amazing considering it's only 230GB in size to begin with, didn't realise there was that much redundancy lying around

I can't believe it, he fixed Linux...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE0fcC9_Wv0

>>110131233
Never don't be sure. If you use Linux, there's always a risk

>>110131122
Just don't run shitty software with network exposure.

>>110132337
>Never don't be sure
99% you're Slavic, 1% Spanish/Portuguese/Italian.

>>110132037
actually great changes
i have seen some of his videos in the past and im surprised he admits that linux has a lot of stupid issues

>>110132416
why you so think?

I connected my Android phone to my Cachy os and I'm trying to copy paste some files into a folder of it and it says denied, you don't have permissions. I don't see an option to let me confirm or confirm permissions. I just want to paste some files into my phone...

>>110132537
Wired transfer or KDE Connect?

>>110132537
Did you give persmission to share storage on your phone?

>>110132548
I connected a USB cable to my phone, then to the laptop, then I tapped on the phone where it says USB file transfer
>>110132561
Yeah, I can see what's inside the phone on my laptop.

I just want to copy paste files from my desktop to my phone.

>>110132482
Most of his points are invalid.
Want to launch a script from the file manager? Just works if it's executable. If not, right click and make it executable.
>muh where's my media?
This is a non-issue. He literally made it up
>muh app files
I don't know about snap but the flatpak apps I used didn't save their shit in some obscure directory with no way to change it. Made up again
>find my file
KEK
>browser isolation
>just trust me bro

>>110132600
No one knows?

What is the best way to learn bash?

>>110132696
>>110132696
>https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
^^^ From OP. Use shellcheck. Ask AI questions. DO NOT let AI directly write scripts for you. Even big boy frontier models are retarded with bash. It can be a very dangerous language if you don't understand what you're doing.

>>110132766
Oh thank you, yeah I had issues with being too reliant on AI and kept getting frustrated with their results

>>110132766
Claude is great at writing Bash. Too great. It will write piles and piles of vomit. Yes, Claude this is excellent but I didn't want you to write War and Peace. Can you re-write it in Python now?

>>110132696
https://guide.bash.academy/

>>110133002
I feel like writing competent, concise bash is some kind of entry level human replacement benchmark.

>>110133002
This is why job positions that are literally just sorting through the code Claude farts out is becoming more and more common.

>>110133037
AI is creating decades of technical debt which someone will eventually get to cash in on.

>>110133065
>creating decades of technical debt
This is something that happens commonly in software development. AI didn't change shit in this regard.

>>110132037
>3:50
>installing .deb files
This is archaic and dumb. You should only use flatpaks and appimages. Opening a deb file as an archive is a correct default. No normie user should use .deb files or apt.

>4:12
>appimages: giving it executable permissions
Non-issue in KDE Plasma as you can double click to run any appimage without giving it +x.
>you can only find it in whatever folder you leave it in
Yes, as intended?
>"installing" appimages
Appimages are not meant to be "installed" in a traditional sense. His script breaks the fundamental functionality of appimages:
1. You're supposed to be able to run an appimage from anywhere, rather than it forcefully moving into a specific folder inside your home.
2. You're supposed to be able to have multiple versions of an appimage at any given time. What happens if you double-click a different version of an appimage?
3. You're supposed to be able to create a custom home folder for an arbitrary appimage so that it is a fully self-contained app, data and everything.

>6:10
>click on .sh
Again, this is a GNOME quirk. On KDE or at least Dolphin you can double click any .sh file, even if it has no execute permissions, and it will run.

>8:00
Is this some other Ubuntu or Fedora quirk? I have never in my life had an issue with finding plugged in drives even in GNOME.

>10:38
>file search app
This is the most retarded GUI you could have for a search application. He's just listing plain text locations of the file results. It's no different from looking at a terminal. There's a million properly implemented search apps a user can install.

>13:00
>some shitty bloat
>13:13
>VLC instead of mpv

>>110133403
>On KDE or at least Dolphin you can double click any .sh file, even if it has no execute permissions, and it will run.
Bullshit. I always manually give exec permissions to appimages and scripts before being able to use any of them. Making that enabled by default is peak security retardation.

Now that KDE is dead to me (wayland only, I require X11), what is the patrician choice of X11 desktop environment? Bonus points if it supports window shading.

>>110133580
https://sonicde.org/
>SonicDE is the community-driven desktop environment forked from KDE Plasma 6. It aims to preserve and improve X11 support and init-system independence, making it a complete and viable alternative.

>>110132696
The Wooledge Bash guide in the OP is pretty good, it's also recommended by the Youtube Bash wizard who also made a video format guide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx9zG7wa4FA)

>>110133153
AI + jeets acts like a brick on the accelerator though

I like debian buts its slow to update, arch on the other hand is for tinkertrannies and probably has shit portability. I should think ubuntu or mint would be my calling, but they give me the ick... wat dou?


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>>110134317
>probably has shit portability
?

>>110134317
>probably has shit portability
Arch is the most vanilla distro

>>110134326
Like, I would need to recompile everything if moving between systems type shit. Not being debian-based and allat.

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>>110134409 >>110134441 >>110141456

>>110117513

>>110134363
i'm not sure you know what recompile means

>>110131233
When was the last time you took a shower?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrwqpjyJ-Qc

>>110134317
>I like debian buts its slow to update
Real criticism.
>arch on the other hand is for tinkertrannies
Mindraped by memes.
>and probably has shit portability
Has no real criticism so made a guess about something that might be true, they don't know.

>>110134317
See >>110134364. Install Gentoo.

>>110134364
looks too AI ish (yeah i know it is), add a couple artist loras at low weight.
also imo since gentoo is named after a penguin id probably go with a casino esque theme, dosent gotta be erotic but like a bunny girl with bolero + bunny leotard + pantyhose or dealer's fit with white long sleeve + black vest + pencil skirt

>>110134409
Fuck no. Grok told me a gentoo install would only be about 10% more optimized in relation to other distros for the million hours I sink into getting that shit to work.

>>110134382
Probably true

>>110134398
Can't be used for servers, add that to the list.

>>110134442
>Can't be used for servers, add that to the list.
I use it for three servers.

>>110134442
>Can't be used for servers, add that to the list.
my vps has been running arch since 2013, home server runs it, too. try again
>Probably true
if you're not even sure about that then you don't know what it means
>grok told me
ok

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>>110117513
had a dream last night...
the future of linux is bleak, it's called: SYSTEMD-LINUXD
flatpak only system
the system of flatpaks is inside one sys-flatpak
direct x-to-desktop interface with elon's posts on the front
fully AI generated direct rendering (as in 60 prompts per second (via stable diffusion) for a 60hz monitor)
age verification via genitals

>>110133432
You get a confirmation window. You're not double clicking something and then following it up with a "Yes, run this" on accident.

how do i install anime on my cutting edge system?

>>110134913
Torrent it

>>110134317
Ubuntu and Mint are ultimately based on Debian so you're not getting updates any more speedily there

>>110134317
anon that only learns about software through /g/

>>110131122
If you actually ran something like OWASP or SonarQube, you'd know what's actually published and affecting your systems. It's a public thing CVEs

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>>110135802 >>110135837 >>110136007 >>110136030 >>110143668 >>110145316

Niggas, where do I learn C from scratch?
I want to one day be good enough to contribute to Linux projects, but I have never coded anything besides some basic HTML, CSS and JavaScript (already forgot all of it)
I'm after a C guide that's free and helps me considering I have no idea how the backend or how relations between hardware and the language work.
What do you recommend? A book? A video series? A website?

>>110135735
cs50

>>110135735
If you don't even have the capacity to learn JavaScript then an LLM will always be better than you in C. So learn how to use an LLM and how to learn C through using it.

Either way Rust is a more valuable thing to learn compared to C, so start with that.

>>110135837
>an LLM will always be better than you in C
Don't care. I'm not doing it to be the best or to sell it. My ranking compared to others' market value is meaningless to me. All I want is to get used to C so I can understand and write C code instead of relying on config files.
>you don't even have the capacity to learn JavaScript
I do have the capacity. I just didn't have the commitment, as I was following a video tutorial for fun instead of actually studying for exams n shiet
Vibe coding isn't viable for my use case
>>110135802
Thanks. I'll be sure to check it out right away

>>110135735
k&r2

>>110135735
Honestly any popular C book. It doesn't change a lot. You can just roll up on LLM (even shitty local ones) and be like 'teach me c' and that's fine too.

>>110135837
Retard take. How many lines of C has scamthropic delivered with a warranty? Any 80 IQ human can learn to code at that level with enough dedication.

>>110117513
I have some servers at work on EC2 instances running PHP 8.3.6, when I ran `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y` they didn't update PHP versions. I can't figure out why. They're on Ubuntu, I think 22 (jammy), how would I troubleshoot this?

>>110117513
Are you ready for No GNOME November?
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Fedora-45-Second-NO-GO

Why can't Fedora ever meet a deadline?

>>110136668
>eMudhra
common saar moment

So I bought an M2 NVME SSD external USB case (10Gbps USB 3.2) as I have a decent 7000/7000 M2 1TB SSD spare. My current PC has both primary M2 slots full, and I'm not taking it apart to reach the pain in the arse third slot.
For those who run Linux via USB, how is it to dualboot into, and how stable overall is it? I plan on leaving it plugged in indefinitely in the rear USB-C port, so there's no fear of accidental disconnection.

>>110137473
Don't run that shit over USB, just install the OS on a drive in the PC.

>>110137506
I would like to, but my concern is that the overall community consensus is to never dual boot on the same drive. My second drive is almost full with storage, and my main drive has Windows 10 on it.

>>110137550
>My second drive is almost full with storage
>>110137473
>So I bought an M2 NVME SSD external USB case (10Gbps USB 3.2)

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>>110117513
I'm on Xubuntu 22.04 and find it mediocre but acceptable. I heard 26.04 is bad. Been on this distro over a decade. Should I switch to something else?

<10GB disk space for the OS+core packages is a hard requirement. Working package managers preferred (so, NOT pacman). I can use command line commands but I prefer not to on a daily basis (during system setup is OK). Thoughts?

>>110137614
....yes, that's right.
D1 is OS, D2 is my files and such. Slot 3 is buried deep and I have a spare SSD (D3) which I bought a USB case for. All I want to know is how stable it'll be permanently plugged in and how dualbooting will go.
If it's going to be a pain in the arse, I'll spend the unfortunate time digging in to put D3 in Slot 3.

>>110137626
Oh, and, as implied from the image, XFCE strongly preferred. Gnome3 is dogshit and KDE/cinnamon waste CPU on shinies

>>110137626
dont be autistic just do the upgrade

>>110135837
>letting a LLM write a language with so many footguns

>>110137550
>the overall community consensus is to never dual boot on the same drive.
I feel like that is just a purist take. Like those guys that try to constantly "debloat" their pc and go overboard with it. I think people say it to be on the "safe" side + because there is some purist obsession to keep things separated. I think Ive even seen people argue that you should unplug your windows ssd so that when you install linux on a separate drive, grub wouldnt register windows because reasons... in the end you can decide yourself. Ive been running debian and windows on one ssd with no problems

>>110137873
Appreciate the response.
I take it that selecting between OS's on the same drive is very simple to do?

>>110137626
Debian 13 + Xfce. You can grab the elementary icon theme and greybird gtk theme from the repo (what Xubuntu uses).

>>110137898
Yes. Grub will list all available options

>>110137958
Legendary, thanks once again mate.

I have achieved enlightenment. sed is bloat. grep is bloat. awk is definitely bloat. There is only ed.

>>110137904
Are there any notable convenience drawbacks to doing this? I've been leaning towards this honestly but not 100%. I'm assuming Debian doesn't have software update reminders for example. Don't really need much software other than firefox & LibreOffice.

>>110138132
>I'm assuming Debian doesn't have software update reminders for example
Idk about Debian Xfce but Debian KDE gives you systray notifications whenever updates are available

>>110118788
why? FL20 works perfectly through wine

>>110136007
what?

>>110138132
You lose the easy access to newer kernels and extra drivers by moving from Ubuntu to Debian. Debian 13 is stuck with Linux 6.12, while Ubuntu 24.04 landed with Linux 6.8 and has access to the 7.0 kernel from Ubuntu's HWE program.

tempted to finally install Linux on my gaming PC (will keep a disk with Windows just in case)
how's NVIDIA GPU driver support? You still need to do dark magic rituals for it to work or can I just `sudo dnf in nvidia-gpu-fw` or whatever and it just werkz?

>>110138240
Although you can always compile your own kernels.
>>110137958
GRUB will list whatever its config says lmao. But yes, *usually* when you update GRUB's configuration (happens automatically during updates and installs) it will probe for other operating systems. (note the "usually", it all depends how your distro devs scripted it)
>>110134317
>Arch
>tinker
It's a binary distro, what's there to tinker even?
>>110134363
You are talking about Gentoo.

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>>110140890 >>110144566 >>110145684

>did an arch upgrade today
>checked the arch website to make sure nothing impacts me prior to upgrade
>forgot about X11 getting dropped from KDE
>arch website didn't mention X11 getting dropped from KDE
>system bricks in the middle of pacman running
>had to chroot from a live USB to fix it and reinstall anything that pacman touched during the upgrade
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hate wayland. fuck kde too.

fuck nvidia users lmao

Is there another DE that has XFCE's functionality of being able to right click and select "open terminal here"? It's so useful and I realized that LXQt and MATE don't have that.
Why is it that that only happens in XFCE and not LXQt even though the same terminal is used? What about XFCE makes that possible?

Fedora KDE: I have a screen tablet for drawing that I turn off when it's not in use. KDED seems to know when the display is off, telling me it has been disconnected but it isn't disabling it as a screen. My mouse can travel into its region. Is there anything I can do about this?

>>110137637
so why not transfer your 'files and such' to the usb drive, and then use D2 for the linux system?

>>110138246
Depends on the distro
Generally NVIDIA just werks provided you disable Secure Boot on your motherboard

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>>110138640
>Is there another DE that has XFCE's functionality of being able to right click and select "open terminal here"?
You mean like this? MATE/Caja has an extension named caja-open-terminal that comes preinstalled in some distros like Mint. Cinnamon/Nemo has this feature too and it doesn't require extensions.

>>110138640
Dolphin on KDE, you can even go one step further and embed the terminal in the file manager.

>>110138667
Good point, they are the same speed after all.
Actually a really good point. I'll likely do that.

>>110138640
>Is there another DE that has XFCE's functionality of being able to right click and select "open terminal here"?
KDE has it. Desktop environments not having this functionality is news to me.

>>110138807
Yeah, exactly like this. Maybe it's just the distro I was using (messing around with Slackware).
>>110138966
>Desktop environments not having this functionality is news to me.
I mean, at least not by default. As >>110138807 said, it depends on the distro and the DE configurations it packages by default, and it seems like the extension that does that is available in any GTK-based DE. Btw, anyone knows if it's possible to enable this caja-open-terminal functionality, or something similar, for LXQt?
I first started Linux with XFCE so I thought it was a given that it'd be there, and when I first tried out MATE and LXQt (again, in parallel installations of Slackware/Slackware fork) I was shocked to not see it there.
>>110138829
>>110138966
I have never tried out KDE, but that embed functionality sounds useful. My current computer just can't really run KDE tho (XFCE is stuttering already, MATE is nigh-unusable) so I can't try it out now.

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>>110139018
>anyone knows if it's possible to enable this caja-open-terminal functionality, or something similar, for LXQt?
PCManFM (LXQt's default file manager) has it as a native feature, at least on Lubuntu and Fedora. I don't know what's the deal with Slackware, but even GNOME has that feature, and that DE lacks desktop icons by default.

>My current computer just can't really run KDE tho (XFCE is stuttering already, MATE is nigh-unusable) so I can't try it out now.
What are your computer's specs? Xfce, MATE and LXQt barely need any power or RAM to work.

>>110138659
Don't be stupid. Linux couldn't even do multiple monitors until gayland came around. You're asking too much.

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>>110139200
btw this is what KDE's embedded terminal looks like.

>>110139018
Unrelated to your questions but have you tried even lighter window managers, like some mentioned here?
https://robin-antix.codeberg.page/antiX-FAQ/antiX26/icewm.html
Things like XFCE are relatively lightweight compared to GNOME or KDE but it's still a fully featured desktop environment. You can go much lighter, lighter than lxqt even, and still have something that acts like a normal desktop.

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>>110139352 >>110144662

>>110117513
is the friendliest linux actually just windows with WSL?

>>110139302
It's Googlebook OS and not even close. Just a shame all the OEMs are pricing them like MacBooks. They're having a laugh. Very nice devices but they're not worth what they're asking for for what's basically a Gemini machine.

>>110138079
erectile dysfunction?

>>110139352
nigga i use chromebox at work it's gay as fuck

>>110139200
>What are your computer's specs?
It's my phone running a 2GB VM in Termux+QEMU
Thanks for showing the functionality in LXQt and KDE btw. Is the embedded konsole just the konsole and dolphin windows tiled?
>>110139285
>have you tried even lighter window managers, like some mentioned here?
I have only tried twm so far, which was very fun, but also confusing.

>>110139461
>Is the embedded konsole just the konsole and dolphin windows tiled?
No. It's a whole terminal inside Dolphin that you can toggle like any other panel.

So the ca-certificate update I just got is because of the indian company thing right

>>110139555
precisely.

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>>110139780 >>110139810 >>110139833 >>110139836 >>110139848 >>110139950 >>110140084 >>110144667 >>110145334 >>110145938

Bros I can't stop distrohopping.
It goes like this: install Arch, get tired of the updates. Install Debian, miss the updates. Upgrade to Debian Unstable, want SELinux. Install Fedora, want easy access to niche packages of Arch (non-AUR).
I'm currently running Fedora.
What do? I must break the cycle.

>>110139767
>What do? I must break the cycle.
Take. Meds.

>>110139780
This is a friendly thread, anon

>>110139767
Arch was what got me to stop distrohopping

>>110139803
Friends don't let friends distrohop.

>>110139767
Gentooooooooooooo

>>110139767
Install Ubuntu or Linux Mint like a normal person and play distrohopper in a VM.

>>110139767
install opensuse leap

>>110137840
The point is that C is not worth learning, so you should have an LLM write the code until you abandon the idea of working with C.

>>110139018
>that embed functionality sounds useful
Trust me, it is not. Navigating between folders cancels any currently running process, clears the terminal and does a cd command (also because it does a cd command in the embedded terminal, you'll have your bash history full of cd commands).
It's far more convenient to just open a standalone terminal in 99% of cases.

>>110139767
Install distrobox for your niche packages and stay with fedora.

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>>110140896 >>110145734

>>110139833
>Gentoo
Way too much effort. Plus it's a laptop.
>>110139836
>Ubuntu
Too proprietary. And it needs sign in for full security updates.
>Linux Mint
Wayland works better for me.
>>110139848
>openSUSE Leap.
What would be the point of this? Sounds like Debian but with way less support.
>>110139950
>Distrobox
I totally forgot about this. Thanks, I'll check it out.

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>>110140087 >>110140337

>>110139767
>Install NixOS
>get tired of the updates
>change one line in the config to make it use unstable packages
>miss the updates
>change the line back to make it use stable packages again
>want SELinux
>import completely configured SELinux module by changing one line in the config
>want easy access to niche packages
>nigpkgs is the biggest software repository on the planet (bigger than the AUR)

>>110140084
>nigpkgs
Sorry, muscle memory

i know if i leave arch i will miss having some packages up to date in the repositories

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>>110140087
lmao
>>110140084
>NixOS
I tried it earlier this year and it seemed pretty nice. Ended up going back to Debian because I was too busy to learn it at the time.
>SELinux on NixOS
The thing about Fedora is that SELinux is properly configured across the OS out of the box. Debian and Arch also have SELinux too, but the user has to do the configuration manually, including keeping policy updated as the OS changes over time. This is a lot of work to implement and get it right. I had quick look and it seems SELinux must be done manually on NixOS too.
>>110140089
It do be like that.

>>110138615
Wtf, why would it brick _in the middle_ of running pacman? Anything loaded should remain loaded, your session should not be ripped out from under you. It should have just forced Wayland next boot.

>>110140081
>Sounds like Debian but with way less support.
you don't know then.

>>110140896
Explain it. And I don't mean lifecycle support.

>>110140890
>your session should not be ripped out from under you
Unless it tries to read something from disk that isn't there anymore. Firefox had that problem too in the past

>>110140968
Yeah I remember firefox would crash in new tabs and insist on a restart, but it's the only application I've had do something like that.
It also didn't do it immediately, so while I can see KDE doing stuff like refusing to open new elements after the update, I can't see why the stuff that's already open should crash.

>>110134364
Creating an AI mascot picture of Gentoo of all things (probably the most anti-AI distro out there) is ironic

>>110138219
It's a book (abbreviated name, of course), the 2 informing that it's the second edition

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>>110117513
why the FUCK does tmux keep changing their shit isnt this like a 30-year old program fucking why is my window-status-current fucking underlined now

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>>110142002
figured it out window-status-current-style has "underscore" as default now

>>110138195
sorry for late replies (ughh it's cringe...)
using FL20 through wine causes latency for me. so, i think decompiling it then write linux's native libraries for it might fix that problem.. it's just my assumptions, though. i'm nocoder and gnu poser myself xd

The login window is horribly laggy for 2 days. Just typing the password is horrible.
Distro is bazzite

drunk arch is great btw

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>>110135735
>where do I learn C
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/C_Help_and_Discussion
read and solve everything in this book cover to cover: https://files.catbox.moe/a875c2.pdf

make your own projects.
>have math hw?
write C code do solve it
>curious to know how printf() works?
write it from scratch
>want to make a game?
write it in C
the list goes on. just write shit in C, im sure theres plenty of things you have an interest in solving, which can be solved using programming.

don't use LLMs because your brain will atrophy to the size of a peanut and you will become functionally retarded. Just use fucking google to search shit you dont know, also disable google's AI overview bullshit

>>110140890
Nope, tons of people hit this issue last upgrade. Package maintainer stance is "we dont care, your fault"

>>110142002
Idk, I just use powerline and don't think about it.

# ~/.tmux.conf
source /usr/share/powerline/bindings/tmux/powerline.conf

>>110138615
https://archlinux.org/news/plasma-640-will-need-manual-intervention-if-you-are-on-x11/
use a AUR helper with a news feature

>>110144566
That's not what anon is talking about. 6.8 removed support for X11 entirely, there is no package to install to enable it.
Had to happen eventually, honestly took way too long. Very strange to have it crash a session during update though.

>>110144566
>manual intervention
>install a real gpu and try again
damn that's cold

>>110139302
unironically no
WSL has so many quirks and weird things that you are better off with an actual Linux install

>>110139767
>Install Fedora, want easy access to niche packages of Arch (non-AUR)
why not use copr?

>>110144583
i don't get the complaints, the wayland session has mogged the x11 session for a while now.

>>110144668
tendies paid $1k for a 3090 and figured out it doesn't have working gui drivers

>>110143042
Bump

>>110143042
>>110144768
A friend mentioned this regarding plasma-login-manager, also fairly recently (although I do not know how up to date Bazzite is kept). Unfortunately, idk what the fix is.
If it is plasma-login-manager, you could swap to SDDM (vomit), or use no display manager at all. Or just deal with it (you CAN log in and it's fine after right?) until it's fixed.

What's the fastest(least delay) way I can trigger an event(receive signal in my program) from outside world to my program on Linux?
I am making an augmented reality project and I want to see what's the actual effective delay of receiving image from camera and the delay of outputting frame onto a HMD.
I can make some simple microcontroller setup to assist this, but how do I synchronize it to a program running my PC? Some way of exclusive access over line in? Serial port? Anything that can be directly read without going through kernel, context switches etc?

>>110145013
https://docs.vulkan.org/tutorial/latest/ML_Inference/Embedded_Applications/03_camera_integration.html
use DMA, set things up so the camera driver puts frame data in a shared memory location your gpu-side program can read from directly, without copying anything

What's a good 'image viewer' program for basic ubuntu? Something that I can use for viewing thumbnails, sorting, organizing etc?

>>110145136
Thanks, this might come in handy. I will check if I can set it up with valve index cameras.
However my question was rather about receiving a generic signal so I can synchronize cpu and mcu high resolution timers. Eg so I could eg make a diode light up, record the timestamp on mcu, and record the timestamp when my program receives that bright frame and compare. And the reverse for displaying image back in HMD.

>>110145218
well the method would depend on where the signal is coming from, but generally speaking you want things set up so you have the kernel tell your program when something happens, and if large data is involved, a shared memory location pointer your program can use directly without needing to copy the data
you can't really go faster than the kernel, if you need something even faster than that then you'd need a real time os (though there are some real time related stuff for linux, it's probably overkill for an AR project)

>>110135735
ngmi if you even have to ask how to learn the lingua franca of programming with countless resources that are easy to find

>>110139767
install guix or gentoo and move on with your life

>>110145305
Just an electrical pulse from MCU.
On the MCU side it's quite simple to read hi res timestamp and generate signal at close to no delay. The problem is how to get a hi res timestamp corresponding to the moment that sync pulse reaches some CPU port, without having to wait for kernel to queue it into some event system, usb stack and shit.
Apparently linux programs can get exclusive access to a parallel port and read from it with sub 1ms precision, but I will have to check if I even have a port like that on my PC.

>>110144409
>Package maintainer stance is "we dont care, your fault"
forum link?

>>110145401
>but I will have to check if I even have a port like that on my PC.
if it's less than 20 years old it won't.
an internal serial port maybe.

how fast do you need? you can do <1ms with usb if you set it up right. that's not really that fast all things considered

>>110145525
The lower the better, preferably below 5ms.

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>>110145779

I've been running the same Fedora install since the 38 days and still works fine, surprisingly, other than one or two ocassional kernel bugs. Should i bother doing a clean reinstall?
>also
Any good tutorials on Kdenlive you know? Youtube is filled with low quality shit.

>>110145619
your mouse is doing 1ms right now

>>110138615
Plasma has been removing X11 for a long time, this happening is common knowledge if you use Plasma. No idea why anyone would hold onto X11 if they use Plasma and plan to update it, knowing that X11 is getting removed. For over a year.

>>110144667
I would rather avoid random repos from literal whos.
>>110145334
>Gentoo
See >>110140081
>Guix
Outdated and unpatched.

omarchy bros
did the hype die down
i thought we had infinity tokens and it was going to the moon?