>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3/B4, XT M3ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), Lancool 207/217, Flux Pro, 4000D FRAME, X50, BF360 Flow, HAF II 500, Summit, Warthog RSDual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUBudget: 5600/X, 12400FEntry level DDR5: 7500F, 7/9600/X, 225FGaming: 9850X3D, 9/7800X3D, 250K, 5800X3DWorkstation: 9950X/3D(2), 9900X/3D, 270K>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Lian Li GA II Lite, Nautilus RS, Silent Loop 3, NL-LC1Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Phantom Spirit, NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Big Shuriken 4, Mugen 6 Dual FanTIM: Duronaut, MX-7, PTM7950* (phase change), KryoSheet (graphene pad)*Be wary of counterfeit PTMs>MOTHERBOARDAvoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reportedChoose boards with ALC1220 audio codec when possible>RAMCrucial RAM & SSD warranty offers refunds only, no replacementsDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)DDR4: 3200CL16, 3600CL18>SSD (update firmware)DRAMless: (SN)7100, C925G, NM790PCIe Gen 4.0: (SN)850XGen 5.0: (SN)8100>GPUBuy the best one you're willing to pay forAvoid poor value entry-level GPUs like RTX 3050 & RX 6500 XT>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITORBudget: 165/180Hz IPS (24" 1080p / 27" 1440p)HDR: discounted OLED or MiniLED (IPS/VA: motion clarity vs. contrast)High-end: wait for 2027 OLED releasesCheck reviews & owner feedback>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Pure Wings 3, Arctic P-Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Prev:>>110106322
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>rtx 6060 in 2029>weaker than ps6
Would you rather play on a 4k 240hz monitor at 120fps locked or 170-200 variable?
>>110114582va, oled or ips? vrr brightness changes would make me lock the fps.
>>110114582i dont need more than 4k30 unironically
>5080 in 2025>Stronger than a PS6.
>pcbg>not playing the hottest game out right now in (You)r browser>not playing https://d2survivors.lol/play/just did a Nec lifetap build and was cruising easy but diablo bone prison fucked me up even through healingcan (You) beat d2survivor?!
>>110113293There's already too many different SKUs of Intel CPU for OEMs & retailers have to order, adding P-core or E-core exclusive client products just adds to the shitshow.Intel is also holding firm with hybrid cores for client products because this is the most effective way to get software engineers to optimize their programs for P + E core CPUs.Mainstream client software adoption of AVX-512 is progressing at a glacial pace because of Intel's significant market influence ("If Intel CPUs can't run it, why bother?").I'm obviously not talking about console emulation, this is about things OEMs & enterprises care about.
bought a FAGGOT matx case and have been struggling to build on it for 2 whole days, found two major problems, now I'll rest for today and try again tomorrow
>>110114663>If Intel CPUs can't run it, why bother?I mean they aren't the only ones using E cores in client, AMD/Apple/Qualcomm/Mediatek all use a Pcore/Ecore solution in their laptop chips. Software engineers have to optimise for those cpus regardless.
>>110114691Skill issue.
>>110114691unironically a skill issue, matx cases are like 30L+ how are you struggling
>>110114702Those other hybrid core designs don't behave exactly the same as Intel's, they're X86 vs. ARM for a start, and AMD's big little x86 products are miniscule in scale vs. Intel.There's proprietary software scheduling, instruction set characteristics, and x86 legacy baggage to account for.
>>110114707first problem wasnt my fault, it came with 2 screws locked in place I had to get an uncle to drill them offnow today's problem is AMD's fault and their retarded PGA socket, I screwed the fuma 2 too hard and it lifted the cpu off off the socket and it took me hours to figure that out after trying everything and switching the psu, the computer would light up but pressing the power button did nothing, so I had to dissasembly it fully to find the issue, I already put the cpu back on and rest the cooler on top and it posted, so I guess it's not dead, I'm too tired for today, tomorrow I'll install the cooler again and make sure it's fully working before putting it into the retarded tiny case
>>1101145824k 200fps sounds like a jet engine
where can i find an antistatic mat large enough for pc building on a tabletop? i cant find anything big enough on amazon
>>110114756
>>110114771gamers nexus sells one
>>110114800thx anon
>>110114771>muh antistaticsyou wear one of those gay wristbands as well? its not 2003 anymore a little shock wont kill anything
>>110114845>a little shock wont kill anything>product arrived defective
soon bros
>>110114861prices can continue high, I don't mind, they need to go down for when zen 7 / hammer lake come out
i just bought a matte samsung qd oled 4k monitor for £500
>>110114902oi mate u got a loicense for that 'lectricity consumshun?
>>110114902I'm just waiting for 1440p RGB stripe WOLED panels to make the switch.
ASUS B850-CREATOR ProArt WIFI NEO AMD AM5 ATX Motherboard $299.99is this a good motherboard for a PCIe 5 x8/x8 dual GPU setup?
>>110114963Yes, it’s a good fit. This board is one of the few B850 boards built for a dual-GPU setup on CPU lanes.What it gives youIt has two PCIe 5.0 x16 slots that run as x16 or x8/x8, on Ryzen 9000/7000 and EPYC 4005 CPUs. When both Gen5 slots are populated, they run at x8 each. netcodexcomputerallianceBoth GPUs get Gen5 lanes straight from the CPU. Neither goes through the chipset. A Gen5 x8 link has the same bandwidth as a Gen4 x16 link, so for most GPU workloads you lose almost nothing.There is also a third slot, PCIe 4.0 x16 (max x4), on the chipset. That’s handy if you want a capture card, NIC or HBA without touching the GPU lanes. evernimbleThings to checkRyzen 8000 series (8000G APUs): With these CPUs the slots drop to a single PCIe 4.0 x16 slot that supports x8/x4. You’d want a Ryzen 9000 or 7000 chip. netcodexM.2 sharing: The board has two PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slots and one PCIe 4.0 x4 slot. The Gen5 M.2 slots are CPU lanes, so check the manual or ASUS’s bifurcation table to confirm that using them doesn’t change your GPU lane split. I couldn’t verify this from the listings. evernimblePhysical spacing: The two Gen5 slots are close together on an ATX board. Two 3-slot cards won’t fit comfortably. Blower cards, 2-slot cards or a riser-based layout work much better, so check your card thickness against the slot positions.Cooling and power: Two high-end GPUs next to each other need good case airflow and a PSU with enough headroom. That depends on the cards, not the board.Price: $299.99 is in line with what I’d expect for a feature set like this (dual 5GbE, WiFi 7, 14+2+1 VRM). Alternatives with x8/x8 are generally the pricier X870E boards, such as the ProArt X870E-Creator, which adds USB4.
>>110114985kys
Just found out my psu is only 620W, am I going to have to upgrade that for any significant gpu upgrade over my old 2070 super? 1440p is the target resolution
Just found out my psu is only 620W, am I going to have to upgrade that for any significant gpu upgrade over my old 2070 super? 1440p is the target resolution.
>>110115019>>110115028wtf how did I post twice, ignore that bros
>>110114985thank u grok
>>110115019>>110115028depends entirely on a gpu, nvidia officially recommends a 650w for a 5070 so i wouldnt get anything more powerful than that
>>110115063I didnt plan to go higher than the 5070/9070 tier so that's good news. I forgot the original psu died and I replaced it with the seasonic model I found at best buy.
>>1101151219070 has a bit higher power draw than 5070 but should be fine. Depends on the CPU as well but as long as you don’t have a ryzen9/i9/ultra 9 you should be fine.
once again i am asking if i should uninstall old gpu drivers with ddu when going from nvidia to nvidia? i am hearing conflicting the more i read
>>110115183no need
>>110115183you shouldn't be using windows in the first place.
>>110115183You can but don't have to. It's not like it's an AMD GPU.
>>110114514>>OS>Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwthow about delete windows? seems like the better options
>>110114638teeth build got him crazy loot
>>110115138ryzen 7 so hopefully I'd be fine there, 5700x3d specifically. my goal is to upgrade while spending as little as necessary, so the psu issue is narrowing my scope a little. doesnt make much sense to spend $2-300 extra on a graphics card that would also force me into a psu upgrade.
>>110115233should be fine, system will most likely not go above 500w
>>110115191>>110115210thanks. i'll just switch them out then, it's a 1060 to a 1660 i am switching>>110115202true. windows should only be used to jump out of, which i will be doing shortly
>>110114533>mfw im getting an xbox HELIX and will mog jewvidia techhell yeah
>>110115297based xGOD
>>110115246sweet, thanks for the help anon
>>110115264>1060 to a 1660Pascal to Turing, hmmm. Might get you a couple of FPS.
gg we made it
>>110114638>point my vibecoded site's file picker at your entire diablo folder where your cdkeys and login info is stored>it stays local trust me brono, i don't think so
>>110115346don't know much about the differences between these gpu architectures, is this change a good thing? i first thought about getting a 1070 but the lack of driver support and increased power consumption made me choose a 1660, don't have to worry about upgrading my psu then. the 1660 and 1060 seems to demand the same amount of power and i won't have to fiddle with any power cables, the existing 6+2 pcie in my computer will work. god i love making shit easy for myself, literally just plug and play it seems
>>110115395The 1660 runs dx12 stuff better but dx11 worse than the 1070. That's the main difference.
>>110115413ah... will it run dx11 stuff better than my 1060 3gb then? god i hope so i play a lot of older games
>>110115418surely you can find a 2060 for around the same as a 1660
>>110115418Sure it has double the vram. Titanfall 2 is a old dx11 game but very high textures still need a 6gb GPU and insane textures need 8-12gb.
>>110115438maybe but i've already bought it. but it seems to be better than the 1060 overall so maybe i didn't goof it up in the end
>>110115448ok, thanks. i liked titanfall 2 that was a very well optimised game i remember
today I will remind them
>>110115462Damn
>>110115458Yeah, It ran on Xbox One/PS4 which are like Radeon 7850 2GB.
>>1101153951660 is a newer GPU architecture (Turing) by a couple of years so it will be a small improvement.
>>110115491speaking of running games on ps4/xbox one, do you remember cyberpunk 2077 on those consoles? lmao what a shit show. >>110115494yeah i got that, also one reason why i chose a 1660 over a 1070. it also uses gddr6 but i am not sure what that even means, how is it better than gddr5?
CODDLSS 5IT HASNEVERBEENMORE OVERFOR AYYYYEMMMDEEEE
>>110115613uncanny valley-aaah gameplay
Two questions:- Are there notable HTPC oriented keyboard OTHER than Logitech K400 Plus? I swear this shit just get it right even with mediocre touchpad it's viable as fuck.- Any manufacturer recommendations for USB hub? Need to plug some simple stuff like radio dongles for peripherals, SD card reader and "audio card" which just allows plugging headphones/set jack as USB device. Thus sparing some extra PC USB slots for actual heavy lifting like disk/optical drives.
>>110115613spook shit no thanks
>>110115624What with touchpads built in? Nope. Sabrent make reliable ones. Startech. Ugreen. Anker. Any will do really.
>>110115613zamn we really can run the whole thing in-engine and with a single dll and briefed editors produce a whole bonified movie.honest to god never predicted this shit being possible.
>>110115624If you want something other than the K400 Plus, the Logitech K830 Illuminated is the closest and the only real step up: bigger, better touchpad, backlit, works over Unifying or Bluetooth, though it's rechargeable rather than AA and usually costs more. The Logitech K600 TV swaps the touchpad for a D-pad, which is great for Kodi or Plex but poor for general desktop use. On the budget side, the Rii i8+ (or X1) is a small 2.4 GHz keyboard with a touchpad, usually backlit, with build quality a step below Logitech. The Corsair K83 Wireless is full-size with a touchpad, joystick and media dial and has the best build of the lot, but it's bigger and pricier. I'd skip the no-name Amazon ones.For the hub, you don't need anything fancy for dongles, an audio adapter and an SD reader. The Anker 4-Port USB 3.0 Ultra Slim Hub and the UGREEN 4-Port USB 3.0 Hub are cheap, compact and reliable. The Sabrent 4-Port hub (HB-UM43 line) has per-port switches, and if you want an externally powered one, Plugable's USB3-HUB7C or StarTech's ST7300USB3B are well regarded. One thing worth knowing: USB 3.0 ports and cables can generate noise around 2.4 GHz, which can make wireless dongles laggy or flaky, so keep the keyboard dongle on a short USB 2.0 port or extension away from USB 3.0 stuff. A UHS-II card reader wants a USB 3.0 port, but older readers don't. Keeping your disk and optical drives directly on the PC is the right call. Stock and pricing change a lot, so check what's actually available before buying.
>5090 friendWhat even is my upgrade path?Will Nvidia just ditch the high end and make it Pro / datacenter cards only? Will Sam Altman get GPU control passed and you need to register with the feds and pay a huge fee to own anything faster than a 6060? Will the 6090 jsut straight up be $6000 if it even exists?
>>110115697>What even is my upgrade path?6090 in 2028
>>110115659>>110115667Obliged. Sounds like good starting point to look up.
>>110115697>What even is my upgrade path?they're just gonna jump right to the 9999
>>110115710Is the 6000 series really not until 2028?I've been buying Founder's XX90 cards at MSRP day one or close to it and selling my old one a little under the scalpers for free upgrades for 3 generations lmao.
>>110115613literally nobody over 40 can tell this depiction of """events""" from real life.We're already there. Weep.
>>110115385i played it in browser thoughyou right he might steal ur accountI just died on my glasscannon nec build surviving but not taking elemental hits
>>110115723>Is the 6000 series really not until 2028?Yes, it has been delayed. Confirmed by Kopite.
Consumer roadmap for next gen looks something like this:>Zen 6/Nova Lake Q1/2 2027>RDNA 5 Mid Range (Chip used in PS6/Xbox Helix) Q3/4 2027>RTX 60 Series Q1 2028 with 6090 >RDNA 5 Flagship Q1 2028 >Intel Druid Q1 2028JEDEC will finalise DDR6 spec by 2028/9 so Zen7 in 2029 might do a dual design like Intel did with Raptor Lake DDR4/5 support.
>>110114902Samsung has crazy deals on those from time to time yeah the qc sucks and the coating is questionable but they are good valuethe G81SF or what?
>>110115744Nova Lake + RDNA5 Unite
>>110115826
What does RTX even mean?Ray Trading Xtreme?
>>110115395The 1650 and 1660 are basically the 2050 and 2050ti by another name because nvidia didn't want to release a 2000 series gpu that couldn't do RTX.
not sure what windows put in the latest update, I am getting Radeon driver timeouts like never seen before.usually I would get them once per week after waking my PC from sleep mode but now it's every single instance of waking my PC.
>>110116073Microsoft probably FUBARd your power management.Test by disabling sleep mode for a while, just let it blank the monitor.I'll bet it works fine if you do.
>>110116073They broke HAGS. It's getting fixed next driver update.
I'm not really feeling it you guys
>>110116209Take blunt hit G
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7SL4GchLvZk
>>110115462*honk* *honk*
>>110116209Read books, meet people and set up table top gaming sessions.
>>110116228had these sticks around 4 years ago and they died within a week
AI won, everything will be slop, nothing means anything or matters anymorea simple cabin in the woods until the meteor hits earth would be comfy for now
>>110114514Ill be 38 years old in 2029
>>110116416*sigh* it's so damn fucking over, man
>>110116389the average npc doesn't even believe in objective reality so AI disrupting everything and making everything hallucinated slop won't affect their day to day life.
>>110116416Old fuck, I'll only be 37
I got a Samsung Odyssey G70B 2 years ago with 5 stuck pixels which Best Buy is supposed to cover with the plan thing I bought.If I want to trade this in for store credit ($500) and don't want to go OLED, is Mini-LED the best next step up from a normal 4K IPS? Any fags here with 4K Mini-LED monitors they can recommend?
>>110116578I really like my TCL 27R94. I don't have an OLED monitor to compare it to though.
I bought a keychron m3 pixart 3395 for office work and it's a really, really nice mouse... I like it a lot. the only problem is that the middle button is a toggle for the stupid rgb colors instead of a toggle to unlock the mouse wheel. Apparently this mouse can't do that. any similarly good alternatives? i'm considering returning this and buying a mouse that has that feature.
>>110116578Dont fall for the mini led meme either cope with ips or get an oled
>>110116416Fuck, so will I
>>110116620If the missing wheel toggle is a dealbreaker, the Logitech MX Master 3S (or the newer MX Master 4) is the closest match to what you like about the M3, and it does exactly what you want: the button behind the wheel switches between ratcheted and free-spin, and SmartShift can also switch automatically when you flick the wheel. It's quiet, comfortable for long office days, and the software is solid. If you want something smaller, the MX Anywhere 3S has the same electromagnetic wheel and a mode-shift button. On a tighter budget, the Logitech G502 X has a dedicated wheel-mode button, though it's a gaming mouse, and the Razer Basilisk V3 has a free-spin switch and adjustable resistance, but its software is heavier. Double-check that the exact variant you buy has the toggle, and confirm your return window on the M3 before ordering. Remapping the middle button in Keychron's Launcher won't add a hardware free-spin mode, so it won't solve this one.
>>110115744>RTX 6000 in Q1 2028too early>>110115744>so Zen7 in 2029 might do a dual design like Intel did with Raptor Lake DDR4/5 support.nope. AMD won't do that>Project Helix>Midrangeit won't be the biggest AMD chip, but it also won't be "modrange" by todays standards
>>110116597I was eyeing the TCL 32R84 so hearing someone likes their TCL is promising. I still have 2 more years on the monitor plan so I can still wait though...
>>110116642mmm..... logitech mx master 4 looks too gamer-y. sorry claude but I don't want the office wasian stacy to think I'm an incel.
ips was the last display technology that actually worked. everything since ips is cope.
>>110116652That's fair. If I catch the 32" on sale I might pick it up as well and see. You should know that TCL definitely doesn't offer software updates on these. So if you use it and there is something you dislike, or doesn't work properly, it will always be there. That being said I have had zero issues.
>>110116620shut up, homosexual
>>110116662OLED gives you a competitive advantage bruh
I have a Zotac 5090 that is 3.5/4 slots thick. How easy would it be for me to swap this for a 2-3 slot 5090 while paying as little as possible?
>>110116682Its probably easier to just change your case
>>110116662Ips is literally the worst panel technology we have ever created and is only good for wagies working on spreadsheets all day.
>>110116707damn youre right. my 2021 lian li served me well.
if I bought 6 msrp 5090's I could have neeted off the mining income right now until it crashed
>>110115697Your path is selling that shit and getting a 5080 nigga
>>110115744Ddr6 might launch first with epyc zen7 while consumer zen7 is locked in to ddr5
>>110114887There will be no consumer industry outside of Lenovo, hp and Dell to speak of once memory gets cheaper
What's the move for shader cache?- Default or 100 GB?- Precompile Shaders : Off or On?- System Utilization?
i wish this hobby wasnt becoming prohibitively expensive :(i just enjoy the artistic/technical side of it
>>110116970>i just enjoy the artistic/technical side of itOld computers are still dirt cheap; Tinker with old stuff. If your neighborhood does electronic recycling days, you can pick up ancient PC's that they're just throwing away off the curb. You don't need a top-of-the-line PC unless you're a productive person doing 3D model Rendering, Crypto mining, or (of course) AI art and vibecoding. Shit, even video games don't have very high requirements these days unless you're trying to play Unreal5 garbage.
>>110116999yeah im thinking of refurbing some of the 90s boxes we still have lying around, and seeing if i can get a laptop from the mid-10s running again (even if the odds are virtually 0)
>>110116999Unfortunately almost every new game is using Unreal 5 or RE Engine being absolute glutton.
>>110117018I like the Re engine, it's so realistic.
>>110117015during the 2010's, in the scenario I mentioned with curb PC's, I'd just rip the harddrives out of those old PC's people were throwing away. They never had graphics cards, it was always old pieces of shit with harddrives between 40GB-120GB. Free harddrive is a free harddrive.>>110117018play Mina The Hollower (came out this year!)
my 5060ti 16gb might've shat the bed for literally no reason. i know my monitor werks cuz i connected my xbone to it and it turns on just fine. idk what the fuck to do now, how can i know exactly what's the faulty component. the lights on my keyboard and mouse also turn on just fine
I hate wanting to upgrade DDR4 to DDR5 which is kinda unnecessary given my setup is pretty top of the line as DDR4 goes, just missing an X3D Chip.I hope our hobby becomes ours again and the prices lower in 2-3 years time when the next Zen and RTX 6000 series come out or I'm gonna lose it
>>110117048ive lost all hope
i7-8700 or 9700? I don't know whether hyperthreading or the 2 extra cores is more preferable.
>>110116999anon, does your room look like a pile of old computer trash?
>>110117048>I hope our hobby becomes ours again and the prices lower in 2-3 years time I hope some underdog comes out of nowhere, figuring out and emulating the manufacturing process, and undercuts the ever living shit out of the competition. They'd get all of my money.
>>110117064sovl
I think my GPU is dyingOut of nowhere my fans started being extremely loud, jet engine style, so started checking what it was and it's because my GPU is reaching like 90°, and now whenever i open a game it goes from like 35° to 87° in secondsIt's only a year old
>>110117085it just needs a repaste
>>110117048overclock nigguh
>>110117064nah, I threw much of it out myself. Oldest computer I still have is a Dell with a Ryzen 5 1600 and a RX580 that I bought used back in 2018. It's still a fantastic PC by today's standards. Everything else is newer than that. I'm not a neet anymore, so I can afford nice things.
Any alternatives to the Meshify 2XL? I can't find stock at a non-scammer price amd the 3XL sucks ass
>>110116642I got the Master 4 a month ago.It's a pretty big upgrade on the 3 S in terms of materials. The 3 is coated in like a weird rubbery material that I found always got sticky and melty after about y ear. The 4 is more like a textured soft plastic that seems a lot better. It still has the rubbery stuff on the thumb and little finger grip though.
>>110117300corsair frame 4000d
>>110117044update: it was a faulty ram stick
>>110117329I would actually kms lol>T. 4x32gb
3080ti used 500$ or 9070 non xt new 700$ ?
>>110117340Larp
>>110117384>500 bux for a 6 year old gpu
>>1101173282XL is a full tower, frame 4000d is a mid-tower
>>110115852ReTard eXpress
>>110117385G.skill royal baby, feel good to be a local LLM fag
>>110117404Ah, maybe build without the case and wait until a sale
>>110117384used 4070
>>110117432Larp
>>1101173849070, then flash a 9070xt bios onto it for a free 20% performance boost
>>110117469Lol go ask /lmg/ anons their specs, I am a mere merchant or common soldier by their standards
>>110117485Larp larp larp sahur
>>110117385>>110117469>>110117540when did /pcbg/ get so underaged?
are there actually any health benefits to owning a standing desk? i just moved into this apartment so im playing with my pc setup on the kitchen counter top. its been 10 hours. my feet hurt.
>>110117300Cooler Master HAF II 500 is slightly larger than the Meshify 2 XL (79.98 L vs. 77.2 L).They're similarly priced though. It's worth spending more on cases with proven quality, it's something you can keep for a while.
>>110117595>are there actually any health benefits to owning a standing desk?It won't help you lose weight or a replace routine exercise.You also need to alternate between sitting and standing to get the most benefit, not stand all day.
>>110117300Antec Flux Pro
>>110117595If you retardedly bought le meme not-adjustable standing desk the only solution is a to buy a tall version of your favorite drafting chair.
>>110117641>alternate between sitting and standingand walking, you primitive bipedal homonid.
>>110117679>and walkingno i don't think i will
>>110117670get mesh so your fat ass doesn't end up with a rash
do minileds look as good as oleds? they're about the same price now.
Switched from nvidia to amd, what software should I run with an amd card if any.
>>110117725miniLED can get brighter. OLED has better contrast & lower response times (better motion clarity).
>>110117595Its helpful your your neck and back compared to sittingLeg health needs you to actually walk aroundobviously you dont stand more than couple hours at a time so legs wont hurt
>>110117595you are supposed to stand for a few hours after sitting all day long to make yourself feel better. no one actually stands for more than an hour kek.
>>110117731what did anon mean by this lol
>>110117908Theres been a lot of llm spam in these threads lately
>>110117725No
>>1101173843090ti
>>110117329thats even worse LMAO
I returned the 7800x3d for the 9800x3d. Only cost me $60 more. I also replaced my two front 200mm fans that were going bad. had to go to home depot to get the screws, and the mesh on the front bulges a little because of size difference but it's working good
>>110118091Nice blog
>>110118179thank u
>>110118091I bought a 14600k and was too lazy to return when the 14700k went on sale
>>110118223I care
>>110118390Kek based. Btfo that freak!
>>110114628>5080 in 2025>Stronger than a PS6.a 1080 is stronger than a ps5 so yeah probably. People saying that a ps6 is going to be on par with a 5070ti are retarded. You'll be lucky to get a ps6 with 9070 performance.
>>110118528the key advance is RT and pt performance alongside ai accelerators for upscaling, frame gen, neural networksIt has to be at least 5070 ti pt perf or game devs arent gonna do much with it
>>110118528The advantage of ps6 is that they sony optimize their software thats why their games run like buttery smooth just like when you run games on a 5090
>>110118538Won't that completely fuck over 90XX buyers though?
>>110117731What software? For work? Gaming? AI?Install Adrenalin which is the AMD GPU monitor software, the AMD version of the Nvidia app, but when you install it click "advanced options" or whatever and disable the AI assistant, the secondary software and most of all the "screen analysis" tool which scans your screen at all times and sends it to AMD for some reason. It's literal spyware. I don't know why you would want to get spied on at all times, but with AMD you can. On the upside, the AMD software suite, stripped of its AI tool and secondary software, takes +30GB less storage on your disk drive.You don't need other software for the card except if you have an ASUS there's GPU Tweak 3, if you have an MSI there's another software, etc. that's for overclocking and tweaking everything on the GPU but I found it works better with Nvidia than AMD. It works well, but for instance GPU Tweak 3 with the AMD card doesn't want to update properly, it tries to connect to its server but it fails everytime on startup so I disabled it on startup and if I want to tweak something on the GPU I launch and update it manually. Which I never do because the card is perfect as is.
>>110118565yes
>>110118563This. Its not even close. Pc tards just cant accept this fact
I've been using dual Dell U2417H for about 10 years now and wanted to upgrade to 27in 1440p in the 120/144Hz rangeWhat would be recommended in IPS, good colors, thin bezels, and less than 200€ per monitor?
Thoughts on this case? Specifically the closed non-mesh version. Planning on shoving a server in there
>>110118633The PS6 isn't coming lol
>>110119541best case i've owned. spacious, easy to remove front/filters and i just love you can get the side off without screws. psu compartment can be annoying.
>>110119575chips have already been taped out for a holiday 2027 release
>>110119541I have the compact, I love the fat intake fans.I took literally all other fans out and put the PSU at the bottom near the intakes.
My MSI 321URX arrives today. And my 270k plus just cleared US customs. Hoping it gets here before the weekend instead of the scheduled Oct28th. Im coming from an LG Ultragear VA 32" 1440p from like 2020 so I'm pretty excited about the new screen
Gigabyte MO27Q28GR or ASUS XG27AQWMG?Any other good glossy OLED options?
>>110119541It's a good airflow case but is it even good for server use? It seems to lack the drive cage support that older fractal design define cases do
>>110118583Thanks, I got Adrenalin for those options and MSI Center just for Mystic light. It's just for gaming and I thought I may have too many progs running.
>>110119541the torrent is a gaymer case for those who don't want to use water for whatever reason
>>110119834Have you seen the prices of high-end GPUs these days? It's not worth risking $10k of damage for 10% more fps
>>110119863Poor and brown
>>110120116show us your 5090/rtx6000 pro, rich & white anon
Im new to the whole pc building thing, I have an rtx 4060 and looking to upgrade. Ive never done this before and after watching some youtube videos (especially PSU cable management) it seems fucking hardIll be building my new pc from scratch should I get 5070 ti or 9070 xt graphics card? Other than gaming I also care about emulating and I heard most modern systems like ps4-switch-switch2(soon) perform better on nvidia architecture
>>110116642I love the MX3 for work. I work in labs and fucked up the bottom cover with methanol but otherwise works good. I love the sidescroll for excel
>>110119291Check the monitor hunter document shared in >>110114518Getting two of the same monitor is a meme.The better option is to have a combination of panels (ex. IPS + OLED, IPS + VA, TN + OLED) for different needs.
>>110120279you got an iphone too?emulation cares about your cpu not your gpu and even then amd gpus have better cpu utilization than nvidia by like 2x.
>>110116416don't worry by then you won't remember how old you are without thinking about it for a few seconds anyway
>>110120314No im just tech illiterate trying to get into this. Would never use an apple product
>>110117085what gpu is it
>>110117384>3080ti>Release Date: Jun 3rd, 2021
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_V5aoUO9EI>*solves your vram problem*
>>110117595none it's a total meme to keep wagies slaves to the desk go take a walk outside
Just buying 20g of gold yesterday. Feels good. You should do it to than buying PC parts
>>110117725Way brighter so you actually see real HDR and what the colours are supposed to look like at least on monitors.
>>110120344You can't LLM on a brick of gold tbough
>>110120344idk anon, im still contemplating getting 22g of gold or 2x64gb of hynix 32gbit m-die
>>110117329oh well don't worry ram is easy to RMA and cheap to replace these days
>>110120344the pc parts will be worth more in 1 year
wtf
>>110120351ram technically has gold in them.
>>110120388yes but its only 0.000000000000000000000001 grams
They sent me a silver monitor instead of the black model i ordered.Niggers
>>110120402not with that attitude
>>110120496Looks fake as fuck
>>110120496ive seen enough indian train videos on /x/ to know that at least 500 indians died during the production of this short
>not calculating ROI of mining into current GPU purchase
>>110120523some people got cancer in that video from inhaling the smoke
>>110120559you can klarna a 5090 and make back your money monthly in mining
probably going to be on a 7900 xtx for a few years being a knuckle dragging moron will that hold up?
>>110120559Hasn't GPU mining been dead for years?
ahahahahaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
>>110120649mining bitcoin is dead. you can mine something else and convert it bitcoin or another coin.
>>110120649it was huge back in 2021. whatever coin you can mine today is only a fraction of ethreum mining's profitability back in 2021
>>110120655Should i buy that CCTV HDD instead ??I just want to store Movies. And Porn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT6TIXnmv-s
>>110120649>>110120657>>110120686>5090 makes 500$ a month>dead>fraction of eth
FSR 4.1 is coming to Radeon RX 6000 series graphics cards. Tuned and optimized from the 6900 series down to the 6400 class.For the first time, FSR 4.1 is coming to APUs.All Gorgon Halo and Strix Halo for your mini desktops and mobile workstations.All Gorgon and Strix Ryzen 9 for your laptops. All Z2E and Z2A for your handhelds and for gamers on the go.FSR 4.1 is coming to XBOX. Optimized for ASUS_ROG, Xbox handhelds and Xbox Series X | S.FSR Redstone is now in more than 400 games on Radeon 9000 series graphics cards.FSR Frame Generation gets more consistent frame pacing, for smoother gameplay.Ray Regeneration is coming to more games.And soon, FSR is coming to Vulkan.
>>110120719energy costs are also at an all-time high just so you know
>5090 msrp owners cards double tripled quardroubpled in price>mining resurrection now also gives them back the whole initial cost if the price increas wasn't enough>5090 was not only the best value gpu but also a free gpu in the end>might end up giving you whole pc for free if it continuesthe ride never ends
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-26-10-1.html
>>110120724its great to see amd laying the groundwork before launching their best generation next year
>>110117725I mean not really, ask me in like a month and I'll let you know once new wears off.
>>110117725mini led's will never look as good due to not having the contrast of oleds, sure you can get the blacks but the contrast will never be possible
>>110120724>And soon, FSR is coming to Vulkan.I can't believe RDNA2 got FSR4.1 before Vulkan support.
>>110120859The Elden Ring Linux port running Vulkan already has FSR4.1. I think its just for Windows devs who want to use Vulkan (Indiana Jones)
its so hard to wait they need to release it already
>>110120724still no multiframegen i see
>It might be wise to hold off purchasing a 32" 4K OLED until these new panels launch next year god dammit fuck
>>110120942It's a big meme. Adds more latency and ghosting. It's for struggle setups like the 5050.
>>1101209422x framegen is ass. Why would I want more?
>>110120915Dont expect them until March 2027 and realistically May available for purchase outside of china
>>1101203234060
>>110120955They will be expensive. Expect $1,200 minimum.Like the TV schizo says, you can probably get a nice QD-OLED TV near $2000 this Black Friday (I know TVs and monitors are different).
>>110120116retard and jew
>>110121190maybe it has shit paste from the factory
>>110121244Common issue. Only the high end cards (5070ti & up) get PTM7950. Lower end cards get generic paste.
what do i think about zen 6?
>>110121313>pay nvidia jew tax costing hundreds more than theyre worth>jensen wont even pay an extra few bucks for good thermal paste outside good goy modelsI hate them so much bros.
>>110121373idk. what do you think?
>>110121374It's NVIDIA squeezing out AIB margins, so there's very little (if any) money to be made in those lower tier GPUs.NVIDIA gives higher allocation for more profitable chips like the 5090 and 5080 if the AIB orders more low-margin 5060 chips.
>>110121374the gpu market is completely rigged n shitty. if trump wasnt president right now the government would have cracked down on the antitrust long time ago.
>>110121614>their margins arent good enoughnot my problem, and their stock price seems to be doing just fine despite that>>110121820no administration is ever going to be antitrust again and we wont be able to vote our way out of that
>>110121875they cracked down on dram fixing in past. today we're going through yet another dram fixing and now gddr fixing. gddr7 is exclusive to nvidia and is outpriced for competitors.
>>110121892I dont see these wrist-slap crackdowns as much in the way of trust-busting, at leaat not in the ways we used to.
>>110121892Rdna5 will adopt gddr7We'll be massively fucked by both colors next gen
>>110120915What improvement is this over the 321urx?
>>110122019brighter 2027 OLEDs /w stripe RGB subpixels (improved text clarity).
>>110114514MY MEMORY IS COMING IN THE MAIL TODAY, YAYYY HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT BRICKED. I HOPING THEY UPDATED MY MOTHERBOARD FOR THE PROCESSOR CAUSE I WOULD NEED TO GET MY USB OUT AND THAT WOULD BE BORING.THIS IS THE FASTEST COMPUTER I EVER HAD I SO EXCITED TO INSTALL DEBIAN ON IT WITH A 5070TI CAUSE LINUX PLAYS GAMES NOW, BUT REALLY I WAS GOING TO USE IT FOR A.I. AND TAKE COMPUTER CODING CLASS AT A COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOR FUNSIES THEN I CAN BE A VIBE GOD
>>110122043I'm happy for you anon. What's your full list of specs?
>>110122019https://www.msi.com/news/detail/The-World-s-First-Triple-Mode-QD-OLED-Gaming-Monitor--MPG-OLED-322URDX36-31-5-Inch-4K-360Hz-Debuts-at-COMPUTEX-2026-148961
>>110122043Linux might not play too nice with that card but for all those other use cased it's pretty sweet. You can do a lot with local models on a 16GB Card now.
>>110122065ULTRA 270K PLUS, 32GB 32 CAS 6,400 MHZ CRUCIAL DDR5 MEMORY, PNY SLIM OC RTX 5070 TI, B860M AORUS PRO ICE WIFI 7, CRUCIAL P510 PCIE GEN5 NVME 1TB SSD THERMALRIGHT PEERLESS ASSASSIN SE 120, AND A FARA 313 TYPE-C CASE IT ALL FITS :D
>>110122102Not that anon but i am in the process of an ultra 7 270k plus, 5070ti and 48gb ram. I was kind of interested in playing with local AI models. What can I realistically expect?
>>110122135that's a nice pc, enjoy
>>110122018only for flagship unit (which will be unobtanium and expensive like the 5080). rest will still use cheaper gddr6.
>>110121192americans coulde have gotten 55" s90f's for 899$the last glossy samsung qdoled and no one connect boxnow it's all over, you didn't boughted
I sold a RTX 4090 Aorus Master (24GB Ram) for 3.5k on eBay. Did I sell it for too low? I originally bought it for 1.8k off of Amazon last year.
>>110122254Just hope the buyer doesn't try to scam you out with a bullshit claim.
selling shit used and is a nightmare not gonna lie unless it's face to facethe amount of scams and bullshit is too much
>>110122303Hopefully not. The buyer has a (5719) 100% rating so I probably won't get scammed.
>>110122135>IT ALL FITS :Dyay
>>110122317>do face to face>get robbed/shothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2_8VL8sE_g
Do monitors stay okay if not used? I bought one 2k one 5 years back and still didn't open the box.
>>110122464that reminds me of this song https://youtu.be/bQTZS3RB0w8>do face to face in europe>didn't get shankedshit even buying from companies with bad returns is a nightmare
>>110122473the monitor itself should be okay but whatever cheap flash memory it uses must be powered on once every decade or so or it corrupts itself.
>>110120702>>110120724Bla bla bla. Will be interesting to see whether AMD (and others) will start to lean on fake frames (etc), so sell or if they'll actually give us traditional raw performance. The current negative sentiment against AI right now is wild. If AMD fucked this up, Nvidia will not only have sold the shovels, but can take advantage of hindsight once they get back to consumer GPUs.
>>110122621its up to the developer. capcom turns on framegen by default on monster hunter. other games you need to manually turn it on. some dont include it at all.
>>110122621Nobody is interested in "Traditional Raw Performance" besides bagholders who made the mistake of buying a 90XX card.The vast majority of people are happy to turn DLSS or FSR on and enjoy the increased frame rate more than they care about the slight reduction in visual clarity, especially with how good DLSS is now.I'm not saying that's a good thing, but, thems the ropes.
>>110122534Memory in a monitor?
>>110122736There's a small capacity memory chip storing your custom monitor settings and the factory presets.
>>110122736when you turn on your monitor it runs a operating system to run the osd and inputs and all that shit
>>11011738413% performance diff for $200
>>110120344gold is going to drop like a brick in ~2 years when the meme trade wars die down and everyone rediscovers that fractional reserve banking is a really good system and national currencies and public debt are some of the best and stable stores of value in the world.
Steam x AMD
trying to tune a mismatched set of ddr4 ram and holy shit, I'll have to settle with XMP because not even 3600mhz they want to run
>>110123783You fucked around and found out.
are they going to make new motherboards for raptor lake next? it sucks how none of the b760 have bios flashback so you need to have an old cpu to update the bios for the raptor lake next cpus
>>110124094Yes.
I bought an open-box PSU (Fractal Design Ion 3 750W Gold) today and one of the connectors, I think it's the 12-pin, it has 12 little thingies, says 600W on it. Is this normal or was there a cable switch-up?
>>110119693>>110119594How do you stop dust accumulating inside the case?
>>110124183I mean ddr4 motherboards, I dont think anyone with DDR5 would buy raptor lake next anyway
>>110124401use dust filters, buy extra filters and add them to the case and have positive pressure
amd buttdevasted njeetia today so bad, fsr 4.1 on 6 years old hardware, running better than ever, also goysoles and goyhelds and goylaptops but who cares
>>110124094There will be some new B760 & Z790 DDR4 motherboards.I remember reading Gigabyte's announcement of a new anime Aorus one.https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B760M-AORUS-ARI-WIFI6E-DDR4
>>110124543FSR 4.1 running on devices whose buyers mostly criticized or swore off upscalers proves that NVIDIA was right.NVIDIA won today. Upscalers, frame gen, and other AI assisted rendering techs are here to stay.
>>110124288That's normal, it's the new 12V-2X6 power cable.
>>110117595Owning? No. Actually using yes. It's easy to get one and forget it can even adjust.
>>110124401You eventually have to take any PC case outside and clean it with an air duster.
>'I-it's good when my card can run it! It's a win if it werks on my team!'>'It's not goyscalers anymore!'So predictable.
>>110124653thanks Anon :)it's my first time building I got the PSU from a regular store they just sometimes have returnes open-box items with a discount same warranty and everything as with a new one though, which is nice
>>110124732It's a good PSU, made by Seasonic and has Fractal's best fan.The PSU should have enough 8-pin (6+2) cables for most video cards.
>open box psuSome nigga dumped their coffee on it for sure
>>110125011it was me.
>>110120719> 5090 makes 500$ a monthBefore or after electricity bill?
have SSD prices went back down or am I just retarded I swear they were much higher before 280 for 2TB doesn't seem that much I think I paid roughly that much for my last 2TB back in 2021
>>110125258wait for drumpf to lose the midterms and 2tb drives will be costing pennies
>>110125266when are the midterms I'm an eurofag
>>110122135Okay, just get some storage for games, apps, work and downloads.1TB is just enough for OS + user profile + some system tools.And good luck with the PNY GPU.
>>110125258> I paid roughly that much for my last 2TB back in 2021I paid roughly that for my 4TB Samsung 990 Pro in early 2025!
>>110125276next month
>>110125329I said I think, I'm pretty sure 2TB was at least 200 back then too, but it's been a while
Is 3070ti good for 200 dollaridoos? My 580 just died
>>110125580Yeh
I didn't miss any of you faggots.
USE NEW ONE:>>110125996>>110125996>>110125996
>>110125240300-500 after
>>110125994I missed you...
