>cornerstone of human eating habits for the last 1500 years is bad for you actuallyWho comes up with this stuff?
>>77590384>>77590387>AI screencapIgnored
>>77590300>for the last 1500 years exactly. you think that's a lot?
>>77590300>Who comes up with this stuff?People who reinvent the wheel mainly
>>77590300>humans: exist for 200.000 years>jew on 4chan: "the goyslop we've been feeding the goyim for 1.500 years cannot be bad"And in fact bread isn't that bad when you don't have it as the BASIS of your food sources. But you can see how dishonest (jewish) the 1.500 years argument is when put into perspective
I just want to yap a little because I actually think about this a lotSo the tribes of europe would trade all sorts of goods with each other, including seeds for agriculture, the scandinavians would trade furs, amber and bone jewlery (probably weapons too) for crop seeds from the southImagine being a viking-era dude in around like year 700, sit on a horse for several weeks lugging along a bunch of fur you and your buddies spent time hunting and cleaning. You might get ambushed and get your shit stolen. Then you meet some southern european dudes and give them all your fur and like amber jewels in exchang for a bag of seeds that may or may not even grow in your climatethen you ride home to your tribe for like another several weeks on horse back, plant your bag of seeds and just hope for the best, next year you might get a crop that will absolutely reinvent your entire way of living, you may get flowers or you may get nothing because ancient italian grain varities don't like the frostwhat kind of fucking mad lad would you have had to be to exchange like a "real" life good for a bag of seeds that may or may not even turn out to be anythingi think about this a lot
>>77590589Simple answer is it probably didn’t work that way.People closer to Southern Europe than the vikings probably tried growing those crops first and then the practice slowly made its way North.During the Columbian Exchange when people started growing potatoes in Europe they probably started it off as a little experiment in addition to the crops they were already growing.And I would bet seeds were never all that valuable to begin with. You wouldn’t have to trade jewels for them lol.
>>77590589It's bad business to scam your customers. They won't deal with you again
>>77590300Cool
>>77590300>the last 1500 yearsAre you retarded?
>>77590300it has no nutritional value
>>77590589They grew rye in the north. They also grew a little bit of wheat as a luxury. By 700, they've already been growing that stuff for centuries, rye for a millenia.
>>77590654It has starch. If you train, starch is very very good. If you train hard, getting that starch from pasta/porridge is a bitch. If you are sedentary, yes, avoid bread.
>>77590300https://youtu.be/erpImNS0Vg4?
>>77590644We've been eating bread for the last 1500 years and flying planes for the last 25 years.
>>77590300>1500 yearsYou are literally promoting the god Mercury’s petty slave diet. It gets the exact results you think. Cro magnon man etc did not become so strong and tall on anything that wasn’t meat. See: Fucking India
I'm pretty sure bread is older than 1500 years.Also it is bad in the US because of corn syrup.Real bread is good for you.
>>77590300Brominated flour, Azodicarbonamide, benzoyl peroxide, BHA, BHT, Calcium Propionate, DATEM, Propylparaben -none of that shit is 1500 years old. Making it out of regular flour and yeast is fine though.
>>77590300The bread that build the western world wasn't 100% bleached wheat it was pea flour, rye, coarse ground wheat. 100% wheat bread was a luxury reserved for nobles and often gave them the pissing disease now known as diabetes.
>>77590300White bread was mostly a nobility thing. You wanna larp as muh ancestors then go make yourself some whole grain bread with your choice of grain. Rye, barley and oats were used most common
> you get shit> say is bread> decide bread is badthe explanation is simple but hard to understand for the flock of morons out there. they had added so much shit to the bread, they use pure sand flour with no nutrients inside, they add fucking gluten taken from rotten grain so the flour sand stick and not dissolve in water, they froze the fucking bread months before is put in dirty ovens by retards working the supermarkets. then people started getting allergies and intolerance and fucking diseases, so they start telling the people that the bread is not good. fucking hell the amount of stupidity is incredible. and is not even a a fucking new story, for centuries bread makers would end up dangling from their necks because they were messing up with people bread adding shit and sometimes killing a bunch of them. look it up.where to get actual bread? who the fuck knows. I remember eating good bread, but now is nowhere to be seen.
>>77590793>>77590836Roman "white" bread was actually about 25 percent whole grain because the milling tech was no where near as efficient as it is now
>>77590837>where to get actual bread? who the fuck knowsDo you not own an oven?
Bread as a concept is fine, if you buy wheat and make it yourself. The slop you find in the supermarket is only technically bread
>>77590384people will look at you and say this is unhealthy.
>>77590837> hard to understand for the flock of morons out thereIronic considering nothing you said has any basis behind it. >"lol supermarket bread is SOOOOOO bad! while this heckin wholesome HOMEMADE bread is soooo good!"Zero evidence that regular bread loafs you buy in the supermarket is any noticeably worse health for you than homemade bread. It's just vibes.
>>77590654Good thing we get nutritional advice from your local park signs.
>>77590837
>1500 yearsOff by at least a factor of 10>Bread is one of the oldest prepared foods.[4] Evidence from 30,000 years ago in Europe and Australia revealed starch residue on rocks used for pounding plants.[5][6] It is possible that during this time, starch extract from the roots of plants, such as cattails and ferns, was spread on a flat rock, placed over a fire and cooked into a primitive form of flatbread. The oldest evidence of bread-making has been found in a 14,500-year-old Natufian site in Jordan's northeastern desert
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>>77590300>1500 yearsthat's the equivalent of taking 10 steps today and claiming your body now has successfully adopted to an UltraTrail du Mont Blanc event
>>77590854>>77590873Oh the horror. God you people are so brain broken from YouTubers and Facebook moms.
>>77590881It is illegal to sell this slop as bread in some parts of Europe btw. They're also right to make it illegal.
>>77590854>>77590877
>>77590881>basedbean oil
>>77590881>s--o--y bean oil
>>77590782>Also it is bad in the US because of corn syrup.Processed food made from grains bad>Real bread is good for you.Processed food made from grains good
>>77590384what is this meme that sugar is bad for you
>>77590935It's fattening.
>>77590890I don't care what europoors think. They don't have even a 10th of the United States influence on medicine.
>>77590898>quoting a powerpoint from a YouTube videolmao great evidence. Looked up the source and it's a fucking mouse study(https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0132672). You know we have human studies that show no harm right?
>>77590984They genuinely have better health than us on average and it's due to basic food laws that ZOG will fight to the bitter end. I've learned how to mill my own grains and bake and it takes about an hour a week of actual work but it's so much better than eating goyslop or paying out the ass for decent bread. I promise anon this is considered a basic staple in most actual white countries.
>>77590576>>77590300try adding a zero to that, agriculture and breadmaking go hand in hand with civilization as we know itnow if you want to argue that civilization was a mistake I'll listen but at least get your numbers straight
>>77590300>for the last 1500 yearsBread was invented over 10,000 years ago you fucking retard. When do you think the Neolithic Revolution happened?
>>77590384>source: none cited
>>77590300Hyper processed white bread is bad for you and historically was only eaten by nobility because of how tedious it is to make.Traditional bread is made of whole grains and grants you energy for hours. But it tastes shittier.
>>77590300I always think about how beans seem like a really good food on paper but it's not a mass calorie staple in any culture. And it's seriously just because people fart too much if they try to eat more than a couple of cups of them a day. If the Irish tried to eat beans instead of milk and potato stew they wouldn't have been able to work because of debilitating farting.
>>77590300People need something to blame their shitty life problems on other than the loser in the mirror.Grocery store items are always a good scapegoat as are common food ingredients.So we have people saying bread makes you fat even though humans have been eating bread for thousands of years and fat people were rare in the world until about 20 years ago.When you point this out, they move the goalposts and say well its not the bread its some ingredient like the dreaded seed oil.When you say people have been using seed oil for a hundred years with no problems then they go on to say its the preservatives, jews or they just call you nigger and tell you to shut up
>>77590300>current human eating habitsis perfect for bodybuilding. but it's unsettling to /fit faggots who have shitty bodies.
>>77591370The entire ethnic mesoamerican cultures had beans as staples, to the point that it is still a staple in many Latin American countries specially Mexico you cunt.
>>77591386Can his tendons even handle heavy to you weight because as far as I know that shit basically dries you out like beef jerky from the inside out.
>>77590300T. Literal medieval peasant The king eats meat, fish, vegetables and fruit while you slave away in the fields and eat bread and butter
>>77590654Thats right. Also chocolate and grapes are poisonous to humans because dogs
>>77590943Theres no such thing as a "fattening" food
>>77591476What?
>>77590300It's demonstrably fine as long as you're not allergic.
>>77591037>it's due to basic food lawsIt's actually due to Americans driving everywhere and eating way too many calories. >but it's so much betterMarginally, sure I'll admit it's better, but maybe like 5% better. Not nearly enough to be screaming and shitting every time you see store bread. Also anything you make yourself is going to "feel" better. It's all in your head though.
>>77590300How much of goy do you have to be in order to believe that modern genetically modified grains with more chromosomes than a human are the same kind of grain that your ancestors ate before the 1950's?
>>77592320Can you reformat this post with more buzzwords? I feel like it didn't have enough.
>>77592323Go get your 7th boosterO algo
people used to eat a kilo of this stuff per day, and it was denser, not like the processed watered down version we have today
>>77590300People started eating grains not because it's healthier, but because it allows to feed more quantity of people.If your people grow grains, you have the ability to feed an army. Once someone has an army, everyone else is forced to do the same or be conquered by them, and end up being forced to be grain-eaters as well.All technologies have a tradeoff. In the case of grains, you are getting a much greater quantity of people but most of them will live shorter lives and be riddled with disease.Doctor Weston A. Price studied this extensively. Picture related: Here are some twin brothers, one went to live in the city and ate a grain-based diet of bread, the other remained in his little town and ate the traditional foods (butter, cheese, some bread but not as much). The one who went to live in the city had half of his teeth rotting and with cavities before 30, the one who stayed in his home town had basically perfect teeth. Them being twins is especially helpful because it means you can't blame genetics on this one.This pattern has repeated time and time again whenever people's diets were observed. As soon as the foods of civilization (flour, bread, rice, etc.) were brought, their health sharply declined.This is one of the many costs that you have to pay for if you live in civilization and are not wise enough to know better.
>>77592473>this n=1 sample of some retarded peasant with rotting proves that.....it proves fuck allIf bread makes your teeth fall out, billions of people would have been toothless for the last thousand years, but all this guy did was document one person
>>77592495>If bread makes your teeth fall out, billions of people would have been toothless for the last thousand yearsWhich is the case. It's difficult to find old people right now with intact teeth.
>>77592532and what shitty country are you in, because I dont see that anywhere in America.And old people 100 years ago were eating bread, so why is only starting to affect the old people now?
>>77592473>but most of them will live shorter lives and be riddled with diseaseSo why have we been living longer since we started eating them? Why are people who eat more whole grains associated with living longer and having less disease? Why do carnivorous tribes have low life expectancy?
>>77592548>and what shitty country are you in, because I dont see that anywhere in America.Canada. Most of the old people that you see are wearing denture so it's not immediately visible that they had all their teeth pulled out.>And old people 100 years ago were eating bread, so why is only starting to affect the old people now?It hasn't started now, it's been the case since the agricultural revolution. Eventually we invented toothbrushes and toothpastes to help stave off the damage caused by grains.>>77592570>Why are people who eat more whole grains associated with living longer and having less disease?Because they're being compared with people who also eat grains.>Why do carnivorous tribes have low life expectancy?Because they're tribes. Life expectancy among grains eaters was also terribly low before modern sanitation.
Never met anyone with a six pack who ate bread on the regular.
>>77592495>>this n=1 sample Nice cope. It's called pattern-recognition, libtard. The reason this modern civilized diet doesn't rot half your teeth before 30 is that you have access to modern dental hygiene technology (toothbrushes, toothpaste, mouthwash).It still does, but the effect is more delayed and we can keep hiding the symptoms with modern medicine until you die of a diabetes-induced heart attack in your 50s.>>77592570There are no reliable statistics about life expectancy of tribal meat-eaters. And even if there were, they have dozens of other problems that might curb their life expectancy unrelated to diet.They can be killed while hunting, more prone to accidents, they are more exposed to the elements, etc. etc.Unless you're going to make the moronic case that diet and diet only is the driver of life expectancy your point is moot.
>>77592597I'm in my early 50s. I have been eating bread my entire life.I havent been to a dentist in 20 years because my teeth are fine and I dont have diabetes or any of these other things that you insist I'm walking around with.And guess what, any food will cause tooth decay if you dont fucking clean your mouth.Which I do anyway whether or not I eat bread.And by your own admission, brushing your teeth prevents bread-related tooth decay so there is literally no reason for me to avoid bread.
>>77592596How many people have you met with a 6 pack and why are you hanging around shirtless men?And how many of these men told you about their daily menus?My guess is zero
>>77592578so how to you know they are wearing dentures and its not their real teeth? Are you going around examining old people's mouths as you walk through the grocery store?
>>77592706>A census collected by the American Dental Association has established that nearly 57% of people ages 65-74 are wearing some form of denture, either partial or completehttps://tempefamilydentistry.com/effects-of-dentures-on-older-peoples-nutritional-health/
>>77592718And that means this mean that bread made their teeth fall out?What were their hygiene habits? How many of them smoked meth?How many had fluoridated water?How many people had dentures before "goyslop"?How many people get dentures now vs 50 years ago simply because they are more affordable now? You really dont understand studies or statistics, do you?
>>77592732>And that means this mean that bread made their teeth fall out?Not bread specifically, most grains in general, although wheat is the worst. Not only are starches sticky and perfect food for the bacteria that destroy the teeth, but grains are also full of antinutrients that leech actual nutrients out of your body, weakening your bones, including the teeth, among many other things.
>>77592718yeah its AI but bread is not mentioned as a major cause.Smoking is though. Isnt that interesting?How many of the denture wearers smoked?Because that age group were heavy smokers before cigarettes feel out of fashion.
>>77592738So you've concluded that all those people with dentures lost their teeth from eating grains and not some other reason?Show your methodology.
>>77592739>yeah its AI but bread is not mentioned as a major cause.Of course it's not mentioned as a cause because it's an uncomfortable truth that nobody wants to admit. On one hand, people don't want to stop eating what they like. On the other hand, food companies don't want to stop selling grains since the profit they make is huge. And on the other hand, dentists/pharmaceutical companies don't want to lose their clients. It's the same reasons why doctors recommend diabetes-promoting food to people who suffer from diabetes.
>>77590935Sugar is 50% fructose, only your liver can metabolize fructose, about 30% of it turns directly into new fat in the process. The remainder doesn't get used for anything useful unless you're glycogen depleted so it also turns into stored fat.A high sugar diet is a high fat diet.
>>77592742lmao now its conspiracy between big AI, big dentistry and big grain to keep you ignorant of the dangers of a slice of bread.You're not even sane.
>>77592745This is why schizos hate AI - because anyone can easily debunk their insane gibberish in mere seconds
>>77592495https://youtu.be/OD0McTYto3I?t=515sugar not bread but it's an interesting subject
>>77592772I'm not watching an hour long video about haunted houses or whatever this shit is.And yes everyone knows sugar is bad for your teeth. I learned that in kindergarten.But guess what? Tooth brushes exists and you shouldnt be overeating candy, or anything for that matter, anyway.
>>77592783calm down and look at the timestamp and you might learn something new
>>77592765I never said anything about AI. It's an amazing tool, I use it daily. But a gemini overview is the cheapest form of AI that you could find, and yes, it's only going to regurgitate mainstream opinions. If you want to be serious about this, go ask a competent AI to make an in-depth research for you and to explain to you exactly why grains hurt teeth. I think you'll be amazed.
>>77592804Well I guess I have must have superhuman teeth because I've been eating bread my whole life.I also clean my mouth which might have something to do with it.And since I brush my fucking teeh twice a day I guess I dont need to go through life being terrified of bread and spend hours researching it and posing obscure videos on an anime pedo image board
>>77592830I already addressed that. Yes, toothpaste and other forms of dental care were invented to counter the damage cause by grains. If you get rid of the bacteria on a daily basis then you're not gonna have tooth decay. It doesn't mean that your skeleton is healthy, though. Someday you're gonna have arthritis and you're gonna blame it on old age.
>>77592832lol holy shit now bread causes arthritis.You are mentally ill.
>>77590589the history is very fake, anon. hope that helps.
>>77590999>You know we have human studies that show no harm right?I go to the grocery store and see the harm with my own eyes regularly.
>>77592770>idiots trusting AI over published university professorsSearch youtube for "sugar the bitter truth" to see a talk from some one who actually studies the subject and isn't a word prediction engine.
>>77592919No,Everyone knows sugar is bad for your teeth. They tell you that in kindergarten.They also teach you to brush your fucking teeth every day.It doesnt matter what you eat, if you dont brush your teeth once a day minimum, they will eventually rot out.So what if bread or sugar makes your teeth rot faster then other food if you dont brush them?I'm a civilized human and take care of my mouth so I dont have to be terrified of bread like some kind of obsessive lunatic.I'm starting to think you're just some indian who cant afford toothpaste and wouldnt know what to do with it if you could.Just like toilet paper
>>77592578You forgot to answer the first part of my question. >So why have we been living longer since we started eating them?>Because they're tribes. Life expectancy among grains eaters was also terribly low before modern sanitation.>" As soon as the foods of civilization (flour, bread, rice, etc.) were brought, their health sharply declined."So which is it? Uncontacted tribes live longer prior to modern foods? Or they don't live longer due to them being retarded tribe niggers?
>>77592597>These people lived SOOOO much better prior to grains being introduced. It's obviously the grains fault>"ACTUALLY YOU CAN'T RELIABLY KNOW WHY TRIBAL MEAT EATERS ARE DYING, THERE ARE LIKE A MILLION THINGS THAT COULD BE CAUSING THEM TO DIE YOUNG"Funny how confounders only matter when it supports your retarded bias.
AI is such a great invention for people who want to feel smart but don't want to use their brain to think.They are so very confident in the wisdom coming from a chatbot that parrots whatever was the most upvoted consensus on Reddit.Anything a meat proxy says, assume the opposite is actually true, and you'll be right most of the time.For example, this anon is using Artificial Parrot "Intelligence" to claim bread is harmless and even good for you.So we can easily conclude that bread must be bad because retards think it's good. >>77592845>>77592770>>77592739
>>77593152So you're saying exercise is bad for you?
>>77590300The redpill here is that agriculture took off because grains/bread are cheap and easy to mass-produce. It was and is the most efficient way to feed a large population. You wouldn't be able to sustain a large permanent population if everyone were mainly eating meat. And since these agricultural societies that largely subsisted on bread were the ones that were able to grow and develop large populations, they're the ones who took over and spread out, killing or assimilating the nomadic hunter-gatherers. That explains why grain was important, but this is not to say that grains are our ideal diet. They're quite literally the bronze age equivalent of goyslop. Cheap food to keep the goycattle fueled, even though it's not actually good for them.
>>77590300Well in America this is true. Their wheat is inferior to everything grown and cultivated in the old world. Bread in the old world is effectively a "superfood"
>>77593995>superfoodlol
>>77590300>Muh appeal to authority>Nooo, don't look at the the longer term of authority that preceded it!
>>77592770Without the prompt we won't know if you added "make no mistakes" to it so what you posted can be safely ignored.
>>77590300Obese white people in america needed a scapegoat for why they all look like amorphous blobs. So they say its gluten, corn syrup, whatever the fuck the head from Facebook.
>>77594257based
>>77594304Yep. Unfortunately this extends to the idiots on this board as well. l
>>77594304>whiteSus considering white only non Hispanic is the second slimmest demographic. You could have just said obese people but you had to leave that little bit in there like the riddler leaving clues to your Jewish origins. Every obese person has an excuse most of them are external. None of them mean anything if they're not paralyzed.
