Thoughts on phenibut and/or Gio Scotti? Worth a try, or will it tempt one to fly too close to the sun?
Holy shit just hit the fucking gym, pussy.
>>77586384It doesn't last all day, the deep sleep will go away, your tolerance will grow, the impairment will become evident at higher doses you must take as you chase the dragon, you may or may not need medical help getting off it, and your benis may or may not stop working
Why not orient your life so that you're like that without the substances?
>>77586384apparently this has anti anxiety effects so i searched for top otc anxiolytics and this was not mentioned on any websites. Where do you find drugs like this for social anxiety when everything on the internet is censored
>>77586384It's never as good as the first time you do it. When I do take it I can only do 100-200mg now or else I become drowsy and retarded. Also makes me pee a lot.
>>77586446You buy it off nootropic type sites. No, you don't want it. You'll end up addicted and eventually withdrawing or in the hospital. Go get therapy for your anxiety or do heavy cardio a couple times a week, ideally both
>>77586384>he takes neuropharmacology advice from a moid mentioning "prime foid swooping mode">(((2026)))Giga-NGMI. Benus-butter or whatever is indeed 6 million percent destroyed by a huge nootropics stack that isn't just focused on freakin' GABA; it's just an addictive meh-tier anxiolytic.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news for all you retarded zoomers, but all the phenibut and phenylpiracetam out today is absolute garbage or just straight up bunk. RIP Liftmode, Science.bio, and Nootropicdepot.com those were truly the best nootropic sites for phenibut. Thankfully I still have about 400grams of OG science.bio and liftmode HCL powder left that I stocked up during covid. I take it sparingly, like 4x a year max. Wooo we lastin' baby. Also shoutout to Big Lenny for introducing me to phenibut back in 2015. RIP Lenny. I cant count how many times I would roll into community college on 2 grams of phenibut hitting on every broad I saw giving them the "Woah" thanks to you.
3.5g is high. You'll be slurring and all fucked up. I love phenibut but you can't take it regularly. Even if you try to be safe and take it no more than once per week, after a few months of weekly use, you will start having bad rebound anxiety after every time you take it. Usually like 2 days later since it has a long half life. For me and lots of other people, that rebound is more like extreme anger. You have to use it very irregularly to avoid this. Ironically I can take Klonopin regularly and get no rebound from it.
It's fake news. I bought phenibut from different vendors, the max effect even at high doses that I got was feeling slightly tipsy. It's a nothingburger
>>77586384It is the closest to a miracle drug I've tried back when it was still freely and legally available, but these days I don't really deal with anything where Phenibut could help. If I want to do drugs recreationally, I'll just do something else.
>>77586384If you abuse it the withdrawals are on par with alcohol/benzos and tolerance develops rapidly.
>>77586604Are you on phenibut now? Did it make you retarded? You seem retarded.
>>77586965Everything he said is correct. The US cracked down on it a few years ago, shutting down all the legit carries.
>>77586969Well it clearly left him retarded so maybe they had a point.
I love when you retards take these toxic ass, unverified chemicals because you are too scared to get the real shit. If you really want to wire your shit (and get physically and/or psychologically addicted) just get Adderall or modafinal. They are both easy to get and you can get them from true pharma sources.
>>77586384or you could just grow a spine and be confident and happy because you are, not because you're high
Can't get it easily here plus I'd rather not use research chemicals so I take lyrica instead. From what I gather the effects are fairly similar. It makes me a lot more talkative and social. It quiets that internal voice that drives anxiety. It removes physical anxiety symptoms like my stomach churning or my ears getting hot. It's been fantastic for me. Most people use it daily but I only use it for social situations or work stuff that would make me anxious. Better that way since I don't develop a tolerance which is something people deal with and the withdrawals supposedly suck.
>>77587031>just get Adderall or modafinalcompletely unrelated
Phenibut is insanely good indeed, it deleted my autism in front of girls and made everything so pleasant, but it is not for freeIt WILL fuck you up if you take it more than once every two months, and most people simply don't have this much self controlYou cannot mix it with a wide range of other substances or you will get fucking demolishedIt seems to be more controlled than every illegal drug out there, you cannot get the stuff anymoreI miss it dearly
>>77587056Lol guess who's never taken a super stimulant before
Ive done phenibut on and off for 4+ years and am qualified to talk on this issueIt can be hit or miss and I wouldn't recommend taking 3.5 grams, generally, more like 1-1.5, only taking it at most twice a week or saving for special occasions like the rare time you go on a date or have to do a big speech at work, but when it works it does straight up work. The FAA f-phenibut especially (this is 10x as potent as the HCL so be careful) will turn a autist sperg into the Limitless guy. People who tell horror stories about this with the withdrawls are druggies that were taking 3+ grams a day, every day, for months on end. If you are a smart disciplined person and know when to use it, it is absolutely a game changer especially for high-inhib autists.
>>77587059See, this is retarded. Dont do this man, dont pull up the ladder from your fellow autists after you had success and scare them away. Saying you cant take it more than once every two months is nonsensical. I hope you meant twice a week Sure, generally dont take it more than twice a week, dont make that a habit. But two months? Dumb.
>>77587088>If you are a smart disciplined person and know when to use it, it is absolutely a game changer especially for high-inhib autists.This is the trap though. I think its very likely that most autists will find the ability to be normal and even above average in terms of social ability extremely intoxicating and will naturally want to be like that all the time in all social situations. I still think people should consider lyrics like I said >>77587050 here or other medications that provide similar effects. I haven't used phenibut but the descriptions ITT line up with my experience with lyrica very closely. Also a plus that it's an actual approved medication for this use case and you can discuss it with your doc.
>>77586384>3.5g lolaka how to completely wreck your shirt
>>77587090Sure thing BUDDYYou have been warned, if you want to take it twice a week by all means go for it, not my fucking problem
>>77587105 #nta but you're right 1.5g twice a week will lead to dependence, tolerance etc. but saying you can't use it more than once every two months is the other extreme, it's not molly
>>77586505I haven't seen that lil ginger bong nigga posted in well over a decade
>>77586969It's not illegal. Why would it be impossible to source legit phenibut? They cracked down on people selling it as a dietary supp. That's it. "No legit phenibut anymore" is something phenibut addicts say because it doesn't get them high anymore. Nordic and Carolina Chem both sell legit phenibut I can tell you.
>>77587360Thanks for that.I have a 200g container from Liftmode I got almost 10 years ago. Its half full and still good.It might have an indefinite shelf life if you keep it stored in a cool, dry , dark place because I dont think the powder degrades over time but google says otherwise.The stuff I have is just as good as the day I got it which was maybe 2016 or 2017.A kilo from Carolina should last me a lifetime lol
>>77586384Dude if you want to want to die from benzo WDs then just get Xanax
>>77586384Meh, its no Kratom.
>>77586384I tried phenibut once, didn't do much for me except cause fits of air hunger during sleep, the next night I jolted awake at least a dozen times feeling like I couldn't breathe and gasping for air, was fucking awful.
>>77588068You have sleep apnea. The phenibut just exacerbated it because its a sedative.It may be entirely caused by the phenibut but you might already have and not know it.t. sleep apnea nigger
>>77588068had this happen too >>77588182how do you deal with it
You will become hopelessly addicted and the withdrawals will literally kill you
Pheninut is basically a benzo, except it works on gaba b receptors instead of gaba a. Which makes it pretty much the most terrible drug to get withdrawals from (more than alcohol and heroine).It does work thou. But it's a very slippery slope and also fucks up your memory
>>77586384She cute.
Might as well get onto low dose of antidepressant, but of course you won't get high from it and you might discover you don't really like people that much.
Gio Fatti
I used phenibut extensively for my final year of college. Made me sound like a professional for every 20 minute PowerPoint presentation I had to do. Makes me go from socially anxious to a social butterfly What I miss the most about it is how good it makes music sound. Couldn’t stop myself from moving or dancing even in public Feels good to mix it with some alcohol tooThat was like 10 years ago. Now I heard nobody sells it or some shit, also hated the acid HCL taste, wish there was a pill form
>>77588236>how do you deal with it
Very subtle thread with half the posts having the same prose. Find a real hobby dude it's pathetic, I mean it.
>>77586384>penis butt
>>77588584What I found crazy about Phenibut was that I always knew exactly what to say. I never had to think about it and it always made perfect sense. That alone already enhanced my confidence even more. I've mostly used it for presentations or interviews, but one day I went to view an apartment, and there were 15 other people there, so the real estate agent had to make a decision. I had taken Phenibut beforehand and was making great conversation right from the start, after a few minutes, he took me aside and told me I would get the apartment. I hate talking to people because I communicate like an autist and my mind and mouth aren't synced, and I draw blanks all the time. That's all gone when I take Phenibut. I've gotten a lot better after many years, though.
>>77588670That's very original and a highly intelligent contribution to the discussion.Did you think of that one all by yourself
>>77588681>I always knew exactly what to say. I never had to think about it and it always made perfect sense.That's how everyone feels when they're intoxicated included the homeless guy yelling gibberish at the stop sign and the drunk manlet at the bar trying to fight everyone
>>77588681>and I draw blanks all the timeeither that or my mind goes haywire and I dont know what to say
>>77588693Yeah, that's what drawing a blank is. They're the same thing.
>>77586384>Thoughts on phenibut and/or Gio Scotti?>>77588283>She cute.you missed some stuff she transformed into this at some point, and then got on ozempic to go back
she's gio biscotti now (gio cookies in italian)
>>77588731no its not.One is your brain shuts down and refuses to think, the other is your brain is so full of disorganizef thoughts you cant escape it and form a sentence.
Nootropics and natural alternatives will never give you the steroid/cocaine-like results you are desperately searching for lmao. Of course, this board is not and has never been a place of learning. Go ahead, order the "phenibut". It's definitely not something cooked up by some jeet who hasn't washed his hands in 3 years.
If you combine phenibut with 400mg caffeine you can counter the drowsiness/benzo effect while retaining the social skills and inhibitions
>>77588857>>77588860Actual upgrade
>>77589018Or, just be a man and drink half a liter of whiskey and do some amphetamines.
>>77589438You will want to die the day after doing that. With phenibut you feel good when it wears off so long as you don't take like 7 grams or abuse it enough to have rebound anxiety. Amphetamines are based though, alcohol not so much.
>>77586443begone jew
>>77588958phenibut is legit, it's basically russian xanax that you could order on the internet legally until a few years ago. most of it was being sourced from russia
>>77586384You have to be so fucking careful to find a dose you can take regularly without building tolerance and when you do, withdrawls are a nightmare, literally the worse locked in paralysis night terrors and days of the deepest dread. Do not take this stuff lightly.
>>77586384I've used Phenibut regularly for the past 3 months. It absolutely works for anxiety, for me at least it even seems more effective than Xanax, and the sleep and "anti-hangover" it gives is fantastic. However its far less reliable than Xans; the come-up is just absolute guess work every time. Could be 90 mins, or 5 hours till you feel anything, with generally quicker action on empty stomach. Its definitely not a party drug unless you plan around it. You can drink on it too btw, although beers hit about twice as hard.Also you MUST commit to a hard-line twice weekly limit. Even doing it two days in a row on a weekend, I started developing tolerance. Best to keep your doses around 500mg - 1000 mg, perhaps twice in one day at most. 3.5 grams at once like in your screenshot will fuck you up with no tolerance.
>>77588935Its the same thing
>>77589586yeah it can be unpredictable too. I've taken 2g (in the morning on an empty stomach) and it was very subtle and I was thinking maybe I should've taken 3g. then I took 750mg (from the same tub and in the morning on an empty stomach) before work and I was extremely high at work. like it felt twice as strong as when I took 2 grams.
I'm so fucking sick and tired of being sold a prescription drug or a magic elixir or the hidden secret sauce shaolin technique being needed to do the life equivalent of picking up dogshit in my yard, get something that every preceding generation got for free, etc. Fuck you
>>77589746Nobody is forcing you to buy these things dude
>>77589586>>77589660Similar experience and in hindsight and from doing my research I do think it has to do with food intake. You must take it on an empty stomach and then not eat for hours to make it more reliable. If you take it on an empty stomach first thing in the morning but then you have breakfast some time later it can absolutely ruin the effect.
>>77586604>he doesn't know
>>77589482
>>77589816This is common knowledge but nobody does basic research about shit they put in their bodies.For best results you take it on an empty stomach and not eat for 45mins afterward.And it takes 4 hours to peak.Now this is impractical if you're using this for a night out. because only mentally ill 4channers are going to fast until 4pm or so, so the point is to eat light if you're not taking it til the evening.
>>77586384I’ve used it recreationally. I take 3.5g, either bc I’m a low responder or maybe the shit I have isn’t the good stuff. I take Phenibut hcl. Honestly once every 2 weeks is not going to give you dependency or tolerance issues and it is fun to use it when you get it right. It never really made me better with woman but it makes music, socializing etc. more fun and it does give you a sense of euphoria, and can be a good substitute for alcohol. Be extremely careful mixing with alcohol. One time I drank relatively heavily on it and that was a very scary experience, I got lucky things worked out for me. Another understated risk is that it’s almost like being drunk without the sloppiness, but you can really get yourself into trouble if your judgement is impaired and other people don’t know it. It’s gotten me into trouble like that as well. Ultimately I don’t use it very often now, after having a few bad experiences. You can mitigate the risk of that by making smart decisions around taking it. Honestly not hard to avoid being addicted if you have discipline but there’s always a chance it makes you do something wild you wouldn’t have done sober. And unlike alcohol it doesn’t incapacitate you so you can do really wild things. Be very careful and conservative with use.
>>77590670>It’s gotten me into trouble like that as wellStory?
I've abused this for the past four years and finally quitThe glutamatergic rebound is excitotoxic, and it is paradoxically excitatory once this wears off and you receive the rebound; the 'sedation' that GABA effect is the actual effect, like the sleep. I never used it for sleep, and it doesn't make me sleepy (relaxants barely affect me), but at night I was excitatory, and if I lifted that day, my muscles would spasm regardless of electrolyte intake, like potassium or magnesium; only cyclobenzaprine could relax me. Not trying to fearmonger; I abused this because nothing makes you inhib like this without impairing you cognitively, but it's just labeled as a nootropic, while it does not impair you like alcohol, there is nothing nootropic about this other than the 'GABA', which you can get from other chemicals like PregnAnolone (with an A).
>>77589465Skill issue tbqh.
>>77586446It's called gin
>>77589482>it's Jewish to avoid drugs and reach your potential
>>77586384>plausible OP text>coomerbait imageWe know who you are.Fuck off.
