What is actually wrong with being fat as long as you are not so fat as to interfere with daily activities? Everyone acts like being fat is unhealthy but the only difference I see is that if you are in an emergency situation without access to food, you have more fat to live on, so being fat seems good actually and that is why chinks historically respected fatness.>but heart disease and diabetesThat is from cholesterol and eating too much animal products, it just so happens that people that eat high cholesterol diets also eat high fat diets, so they are fat and at risk of heart disease, heart attacks, and diabetes. Correlation is not causation.>but cardio is healthyYes, but doing cardio does not automatically make you not fat.So basically my theory is that the healthiest best optimal option is to be a fat vegan who works out. Not super fat, but like 25% bf. Prove me wrong
>>77586263Being vegan is healthiest yes, but the rest sounds like fat (american) cope.
>>77586263Fat people are smelly and ugly. I dont want smelly and ugly people to exist
>>77586263"Some" fat is good. Being very low 5% bodyfat is not good for you. Healthy is about 15% bodyfat. Too much bodyfat is bad because it makes your heart work harder to move nonfunctional bodymass. Then again. If you want to go against decades of scientific research go ahead.
>>77586263Don't be fat in 2026. It's a skill issue. It means you are stupid, can't crypto, too much of a pussy to pin. It's cheaper to be thin than to pay for the food that makes you fat. It leads to metabolic cancer, beetus, and heart problems. It looks bad. I hate looking at pictures of me when I was fat. What was I thinking?! Wasted years. Don't be fat.
>>77586263Fat people are consuming too much food from the village!
You are disgusting to look at and make me want to dry heave
>>77586282>his heart is too weak to carry around 25% bfTOP KEK FUCKING HEARTLET>trust the Science(tm), goy!
>>77586282>15%Lol I fluctuate a ton of waterweight and almost 15lbs over 2 weeks or so of what I have deduced is the buffer zone of peak bulk to lowest bmr part of a cut. You need more room to learn how to doet if you are out here saying 15% you simply haven't seen that part of lifting and are basing your views on incomplete data.
>>77586551What is the ideal then?
>>77586263I am honestly fat and not strong enough because I just don't have enough years in lifting to not have to try
>>77586680Depends on your starting point but I am going for bigger than I am fat which seems to be impossible. I am stuck in limbo between cutting is gay and bulking is a more specific gay subcategory of gay guy that spawns and is fat but weak. I am trying to become bigger by incrementally getting less fat.
>>77586682are you >>77586551 ? If so, say a fucking number if you are going to complain about 15
>>77586687>bf%I want>cns precise powerlifting explosive strength>muscle density>even more cns thousand reps bullshit that takes 4 months>controlling the reps and it's easy but finally it's 2pl8s season
>>775867202pl8s like nothing is optimistic
>>77586732Bro 1pl8 on arms is nuts take a break realize your strength
>>775867322pl8s on shoulders?
>>77586263Makes you icky>t. 6’3” 270 lbs, creases and rolls and stretch marks and flab and no muscle definition despite good lift numbers and sweat easily and therefore stink easily and people don’t trust you because you look like you don’t take care of yourself and you gotta talk to fat girls or you’re being a hypocrite and it spikes skin conditions and when you inevitably want to lose it you gotta cut for a year+ to not lose all your gains and you’ll inevitably need to take breaks for metabolism and focus as you can’t make your weight your life and you need to use your brain to progress and pay bills but it kinda is your life and it’s the prerequisite to most other things you wanna do with your life and you spend a decade already waiting for the timing to be right and you put off all other aspirations until you deal with the necessities but it never happens and you can see another decade ahead of the same and you wonder when age will start to take over as the limiting factor and you know there’s no cure for that and you can’t bring yourself to dive into any hobbies or goals because you’re just distracting yourself from what needs to be done and your life revolves around the cycle and the only reprieve left is avoidance and chips and ice cream and you know your death and you accept itAlso it gives you L riz famalam
>>77586739Yeah bro even I don't want to lift this weight
>>77586756I know you are weaker than you say, 1pl8 though sure you can move it like air.
>>77586263You get fat and focus on muscle more than fat and don't be a retard
>>77586758But I want to be skinny and strong and perfect
>>77586759Then you have to be gay
>>77586761But I'm not a faggot
>>77586263The answer to your question lies in your phrasing, "the only difference that I see". It's not about what you see. It's about what's going on internally with your body.Body fat is created because excess blood sugar, which is caused by overconsumption of food, is immediately toxic. When you have too much blood sugar in your bloodstream, your body shuttles it into fat cells where it is neutralized and so your blood sugar level does not keep rising. Being overweight or fat is a symptom of being inherently unhealthy, which will lead to health problems down the line and a reduced lifespan.
>>77586551>Lol I fluctuate a ton of waterweight and almost 15lbs over 2 weeksFirst of all you're fat as fuck if your bodyweight is fluctuating 15lbs from just water weight. Second. 15% isnt even lean. Its just barely enough to show ab definition. Third. >>77586720 youre a powershitter. Your opinion on bodyfat is irrelevant because you believe more fat = more strength.As you can see in this picture 15% is a very comfortable healthy shape, thats not too lean and not too fat.
>>77586720ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION NIGGER FATASS
>>77586753watch What The Health
>>77586263An emergency situation is something when you'll have to run, climb or fight. Being fat is going to be a massive disadvantage. I'm fat and recently had to climb a tall wall and I could barely pull myself up. It's really important you lose weight fatty.
>>77586263becasuse its not just about youthen normal human beings have to deal with you in day to day activitiesand because you're fat, you're compromised emotionally, psychologically, physicallyand it just makes life harder for healhty people so there is a fuck ton wrong with being fat.
>>77587145its immoral to be fatand so its immoral to not use glps to nto be fat/thread
>>77587152Replying to yourself isn't a good look.
>>77587203good look to who, u? who the fuck are you u fucking moron trash
>>77587256Sorry you're so upset
>>77587257Ok fatsoNo reason for you to be alive as who you are btw
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>>77586263I am inherently better than you because I am man enough to eat less and then work hard in the gym, I do that all the time. I'd do it twice as often if I could because I'm a good boy, and I do everything right just like it's supposed to.
>>77586871You would lose 5lbs of muscle just to lose 1lb of fat because it is "more aesthetic." 99% of people do, try eating as much as you want for more than a week once you have more muscle.
>>77586263>lazy at diet eat everything in sight>lazy at gym low reps only >force yourself to lift so much that even a steep deficit barely makes you gain weight amd is constantly recovering higher amounts of muscleWhy did nobody tell me this when I started lifting?
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>>77588709>You would lose 5lbs of muscle just to lose 1lb of fat because it is "more aesthetic."Duh? Is that even a question. Aesthetics is king.
>>77589318>good aesthetics + bad fitness>get raped>bad aesthetics + good fitness>don't get rapedThanks for telling us you like getting raped by gay niggers, anon.
>>77587055Nta but just watched it, gonna go vegan now (not joking), thanks for the rec
>>77589322>good fitness>don't get rapedOh my sweet summer child, you grossely underestimate the power of rape gangs
>>77586263it lowers test. but you do you OP, you fat ugly slob
>>77586263>Not super fat, but like 25% bf.that is super fat. anything above 18 percent is too much.
>>77586263>like 25%So really about 35%.Look man, there is no amount of fat above "healthy" (bf% anywhere in the teens for a man) that doesn't interfere with daily activities. You don't even know until you lose the gut how much it's holding you back. Every single minute of your day, including sleep, is worse off.
>>77586865The thread should have ended here
