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    It all started with reta, now I've fully dived in. Has helped me and everyone I know who is interested. Any questions I would love to help!
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    >>77580941
    As a big user of small molecules who only does collagen and GHK-Cu for pepe-tides, redpill me on some weird pepe-tide that does something a small molecule can't and doesn't cost a small fortune.
    t. uses some heavy metals and plant extracts instead of Goy-L-Pees
    >inb5 thymalin and I reply with a rat study on ecdysterone
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    Is it safe long term?
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    >>77580947
    SEMAX & SELANK.
    mental clarity and focus - anti anxiety properties that have been studied that acts like a benzo.

    They can all be a good price, depending where you get them!
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    >>77580958
    been on them for about 4 years. My bloodwork, body, mental state has never been better. I do not use testosterone or any type of steroid.
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    >>77580961
    >BDNF upregulators and monoamine metabolism modulators
    Uh... literally full overlap with small-molecule pharmacology.
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    >>77580976
    Can you clarify what you mean by small molecules? It seems like such a broad category as to be meaningless. Like, H2O is pretty small, or do you mean really small, like atomic hydrogen?
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    >>77580941
    >>77580947
    Your benises are gonna fall off stop ingesting chinese bathtub chemicals
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    >>77580961
    You can get the same effects with cardio without giving your money to Jews / Chinese / chinesejews
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    >>77580958
    Why are you pretending like OP has ever heard those words before?
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    >>77581124
    My guess is he's talking about non-peptides
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    >>77580941
    Did the same for me. Reta not only saved my life, it gave me a life worth living.
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    >>77581136
    Cant stop wont stop. Go sit in corner and cry fattie!
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    >>77581140
    Nope. Does not cost a lot. You are neehgar. Anti inflamatory stopped my arthritis overnignt. I do cardio anyway now as i am lean and your sister says "put it in my ass" and ""i cant keep my eyes off your tight little body".
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    >>77580941
    kinda a noob question but what the hell is your injection schedule? I only do two injections a week but sometimes my sites still get a little bit sore. how do you do so many
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    >>77581266
    What rig are you using and what do you pin?
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    >>77581272
    just reta an ghk, 13mm x 27G
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    >>77580961
    I forgot I bought a couple vials of semax a month ago, wanted to try it out, thanks for reminding me. Didn't feel anything with selank though.
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    >>77580941
    >Any questions I would love to help!
    I actaully have some reta on the way, what the dosing scheme look? From what I read its
    week 1 1mg
    Week 2 2mg
    Week 3+ 4mg
    Are they're any other worth while peptides? Was looking at PT 141 which is suppodesly the only real life aphordisac
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    >>77581372
    It has a 6 day half life, so I had Claude make a spreadsheet to track my dose. That way you know exactly where you are day to day and can graph your history. First day .25 mg, then if no effect, as expected, add .5 mg, and so on until you feel like it's curbing your appetite appropriately. I like to pin every Sunday and Wednesday, depending on how I feel and what my goals are. Usually about 2.5 mg a week total. For other pepetides, here's what I've tried:
    SS31 - idk, seemed good? won't repeat
    MOTSC - did nothing
    Semax and Selank - no noticeable effect
    CPC-1295 /w Ipamorelin - I liked it a lot and have upgraded to HGH
    HGH - the goat
    Reta - also the goat
    KLOW - love it. makes me feel good, but didn't notice any aesthetic changes
    Epitalon - I did the 20 day high dose cycle and will repeat every 6 months. It helped my sleep and it should extend my lifespan, so I'll get back to you on that in 50 years and let you know how it's going.
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    >>77580941
    >dived
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    >>77581423
    SS31 I never felt anything substantial, I think it has more of an impact in older people. MOTS-C I'm not sure did anything for me, it might help prevent muscle degradation when running catabolic cycles with GLP-1s. Didn't feel anything with selank, haven't tried semax yet. Epitalon was really good for recovering circadian rhythm.

    What exactly does HGH even do?
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    >>77581259
    Don't worry about that faggot, he is obsesssd with shitting up peptide threads and /glp/, he even samefags himself to do it.
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    >>77580941
    Same here. I've spent over $10,000 so far; my stack is monstrous.
    I have multiple kits of the following:
    >Reta 30mg
    >Tirz 30mg
    >Cagri 10mg
    >Selank 10mg
    >Semax 10mg
    >GHK-CU 100mg
    >NAD+ 500mg
    >Epitalon 100mg
    >FOXO4-DRI 100mg
    >Tesamorelin 10mg
    >KPV 10mg
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    >>77581506
    I also have 8 30ml vials of Hospira BAC water and 10 V2 injector pens with 32g 4mm needle tips.
    It's a good life, fellow peppers.
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    >>77581495
    HGH is good for two kinds of people: people running gear and old people. I fall into the latter category. It gives you thicker skin, reduces visceral fat, both of which restore youthful appearance, and improves rest and recovery. Basically, it makes me feel like I'm in my 20s again. If you're still in your 20s, it won't do much for you, but CJC and IPA might give you a worthwhile boost, and it's really cheap. I take 2 iu/day, which is basically what a 20 year old has naturally, and it can be run indefinitely. I'll play with increasing the dose to 3 or 4 and see how I feel, but the higher you go, the more it requires regular blood tests to avoid blood sugar problems. Guys on gear crank up over 10 iu for short periods, which requires close supervision to avoid diabetes, but for a natty running <4 iu it is very safe.
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    >>77581259
    I'm not fat nor do I require chinky bathtub drugs that are gonna make my benis fall off, enjoy!
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    >>77581506
    Make sure you have a paper somewhere in your room with all this written down + length of use it would make a great case study for some lucky medical examiner intern
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    >>77580941
    >>77581259
    >>77581506
    Incredibly based
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    >>77580947
    Fuck off larping clankerfag
    Post body or gtfo
    >>77580958
    We don't know and probably never will unless AI makes huge theoretical discoveries
    >>77580961
    These are okay but overhyped desu, exercise will do even better
    >>77581124
    He means chink herbal extracts with an effect size of 0.000000001 that work in cultured cell lines at 1000000x the safe dose to ingest
    >>77581284
    No reason to bother with 27g especially for peptides, always go for 29-31g
    >>77581506
    What's your experience with FOXO4-DRI? Rare to see someone who's claimed to actually try it here
    >>77581510
    What real reason do you have to run HGH over CJC? The benefits you want will come just as well from pulsed release while you get less of the blood sugar downsides
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    >>77581284
    Water based you could do 31g subq. Prep skin with alcohol? Clean top of vial with alchohol? If you put needle to skin and very painful, move needle a little bit over. I use 27g for oil suspended T. Gut is good for sub q. Oils best shot into muscle. quatroglut is good just below beltline. Thigh is okay but have to avoid nerves and muscle is more solid to penetrate and inject. You need to do some research here. Overall take your time to inject.
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    >>77581372
    Month 1 - 1mg
    Month 2 - 2mg
    Month 3 - 4mg

    Whats the big fookin hurry? You need to adjust to so many things. Eating, sides, weight loss, so don't rush it. You need time to physically and mentally adjust. Take your time, get into gym. The weight loss is a lock, take care of you and don't rush it in the beginning.
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    >>77581598
    I jusr started FOXO this week, I'll need a month or so to see if I "feel" any different.
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    what do you even take and why?
    I tried reta for weight loss and bpc/tb for injuries
    idk what else is worth taking
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    >>77581495
    >What exactly does HGH even do?
    The biological purpose of HGH is tissue remodeling. It spikes during sleep, fasting, and after injury/surgery for that reason.
    Like other guy said, blood sugar is a concern. It actually competes with insulin so never use it with meals. Injection before bed or morning cardio works best.
    It will make the effects of food and exercise happen faster.
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    >>77580941
    peptides???
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    >>77581688
    Please do report in somewhere after then. Maybe /fraud/ or something.
    >>77581693
    It's only a factor, not the primary driver of body metabolism (that would be your thyroid hormones, of which T3 is the active form)
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    >>77581676
    based picrel. next pic should be her making a blogpost with a ballpen
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    >>77581372
    no no no no, that’s too much too fast, that will cripple your gut motility and cause various side effects and muscle wasting. The official dosing is only for morbidly obese whales with diabetes. Metabolically healthy people who just want little help with little fat loss or for wellness reasons need to use much lower dosing. You can start as low as 0.25 and it will still work magically, unless you’re 400lbs dumpster fire. I never took more than 2mg and that was after months of slow titration up.
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    >>77580947
    This man has never had sex in his entire life, in case you were wondering.
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    >>77581959
    >Sex
    What's that
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    >>77581693
    >Injection before bed or morning cardio works best.
    pre cardio is retarded b/c it takes 3.5-4 hrs to peak when pinned sub q

    3-4 hours pre bed is ideal. it will peak right as you are going to sleep and drop off by the time you get up so you are not tired all day.
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    >>77581372
    I’m having good results on pt-141 but I can’t cum
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    >>77580941
    cant wait until the peptranny fad dies
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    >>77581506
    retard
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    >>77584852
    I mean fr fr all those hammy pepes easily can be replaced with like $30/month in small molecules; dropping 10 grand on small molecules can buy you a year's supply of a Dave Pascoe tier stack.
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    >>77580941
    I'm interested in trying peps but can't shake the feeling that i would get an immediate panic attack after injecting for the first time, bc I'd assume the Chinese lab switched out my BPC-157 for poison or whatever. I think I'm too anxious for injectable drugs.


    Does nobody else fear injecting random unvetted liquids? I don't trust the lab's self-testing. They could say anything
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    >>77585006
    Send your shit to a reputed lab like Janoshik then
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    >>77580958
    Chemically fairly harmless with correct dosing. The major issue is supply chain. All of this shit originates in a Chinese lab. You are injecting it into your body. If it's unsanitary or otherwise fucked up, what's going to happen is that you will die or get severe, permanent health problems. The Chinese lab responsible, the moment it hears about the fact that it fucked you up, will just dissolve itself and reincorporate under a different name. The Chinese government, of course, will do literally nothing to help you.

    I don't think it's worth it, personally.
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    >>77580941
    If I never heard of peptides or any of the words you mentioned, where do I start?
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    any experiences with ipamorelin? I have some chronic injuries, have been taking bpc157 and tb500 for some time, maybe some extra hgh would help
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    >>77585224
    >Fairly harmless
    >Chemical has minimal human safety data
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    >>77587437
    ipamorelin has immense case study behind it (1500+ cases) displaying growth of cells into cancer at a rate 5000% the rate of normal cancer cell growth.

    Even turning non-cancerous cells into growths. It is genuinely essentially a cancer peptide and id say with an 80% chance, long term use of over 1 month at average dose will rear some form of cancer.
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    >>77580941
    >>77581250
    Any particular brand of reta you guys go for? I've not tried it yet but keep hearing great things so might just jump on the bandwagon n' test it out
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    >>77587497
    stop being a faggot and join stairwaytogrey telegram.
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    >>77587463
    Fake news. Even cuckmaster Clause says there's no link between ipamorelin and cancer. I used cjc-1295 and ipamorelin for a while and it was good.
    >>77587497
    No brands yet, so just get reta. I've been on 2-3 mg per week for like 4 months now and it's great. My body's natural setpoint reset like 20 lbs lower.
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    >>77581423
    What is HGH for? Like why use it?
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    >>77587627
    Ignore me I just read the thread. My bad.
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    >>77587463
    Please cite a SINGLE source demonstrating this lmao
    >>77587497
    Reta sucks just use tirzepatide if you must use a GLP-1
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    >>77581944
    >It's only a factor, not the primary driver of body metabolism (that would be your thyroid hormones, of which T3 is the active form)
    I didn't really mean metabolic rate, although like you say, both T3 and HGH are implicated.
    But the bigger differentiator is that T3 directly controls protein turnover.
    Pushing T3 too high will thus lead to excessive catabolism, burning fat, muscle, even bone. It will even break down and eliminate other hormones faster.
    On the other hand, it's hard to push GH too high because it's indirectly telling the body to adapt according to whatever the the current conditions are.
    So with exercise it will promote more muscle fullness, more fat burn, more bone mineralization, more injury healing, etc, and can't make catabolism go haywire.
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    >>77584852
    >>77584884
    >t. poorfags
    Not to mention that I constantly send 2 vials from every product off to Janoshik for testing, which is part of that now $12,500 budget (not USD), and I share my results with STG and the other two groups.
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    Would peptides be useful for healing a herniated disc? I was looking into the BPC / TB500 stack, not sure if I can get by with oral or if I need to inject (and where that would be anyways).
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    >>77587746
    Not even; I drop two grand a month on supplements, around double my grocery bill, except I get more molecules than a pharmacy for that price and like two dozen different metabolic agents.
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    >>77585006
    Get over your fear or sit in corner and be fat and die from fatbody related complications. This is not the place for you. You have not suffered sufficiently to get your priorities in order.
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    >>77585224
    If you think that the supply chain is better for Ely Lily, it is the same. The same raw chemicals at scale. All the defects are contained on the back end... sometimes. You dont hear about their screw ups because they have a team to cover it up and pay off the people to be quiet.
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    >>77587497
    I use "Chang's Not So Dirty Injectable Drug Glorious Socialist Collective Factory Making Reta" brand. I find it preferable to Ziorodent Hookprobiscus brand.
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    >>77587497
    Head over to /glp/ and join Stairwaytogray, get away from the seething fags in here.
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    >>77589364
    You're some autistic IT fag who missed out on pussy when it actually mattered, in your youth, aren't you?
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    >>77580941
    Post body.
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    I'm scared of needles and of weird sideffects and if I'm even getting the right component at the right dose etc.

    What should I do?
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    >>77590485
    Inject anyway
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    >>77589783
    ok
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    If you really want to change your physique i will advice you seek professional advice from a fitness expert I used one did an 8 weeks cycle of gears and a good pct as well had excellent results as you can see my before and after pictures. You can reach him on telegram SP1_tbot he's a pro with pharma grade stuffs.
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    >>77580941
    my cousin has cerebral palsy and he is able to move kn his own (still) and hits.the gym 2-3 times a week. he is actually makjng good progress but he started complainjng about regeneration issues lately. as.in muscles and joints hurt
    know anything that might help him?
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    >>77580941
    You do realize you will probably get some type of super cancer in 20 years and die, right?
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    >>77592493
    >You do realize
    Comment instantly ignored.
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    >>77592075
    >muscles and joints hurt
    >know anything that might help him?
    NTA but the top normie supplements for muscle/joint recovery are pretty much collagen peptides, boron, and cherry juice.
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    most peptides postive effect can be attributed to placebo
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