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    >Where do I start?

    old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

    Previous: >>77541325
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    Have they found anything that will increase penis size yet? any of these new peptides?

    Surely it can't be that long until some nerd figures out how to do it, or some nutter injecting every PED / peptide under the sun stumbles across it by accident. I only want one more inch, just one more inch man c'mon.
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    >>77563443
    Cialis and cardio
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    I’m 213 13% bf 5’10 doing offseason for my first show next year

    I’m only gaining like 1 lb a week even though I’m eating 4500 calories a day. The first 10 weeks of blast I was doing 2 lb a week so I’m starting to plateau

    Muscles are growing, but I’m barely between the line of recompimg and bulking, don’t like that

    I’m only doing 750 test 400 EQ. Do I need more drugs to grow faster, or you think I got lots of meat on the bone for being 213 13% bf

    Big guys off season go up to 225-230 so I was aiming for that by end of blast
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    >>77563877
    troll or retarded?
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    >>77563926

    Wym? 750 test is baby dose in bodybuilding
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    >>77564015
    Post body you stupid nigger
    No way you weigh that much with this bf at this height.
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    >>77564022

    Why don’t you believe?
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    If my test doesn't get shipped in time you think i can go 2 weeks to a month without crashing?
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    >>77564119
    Buy domestic. Plenty ship fast
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    Thought it was a joke when people said it but I’ve been on 300 test for 8 weeks and I’m uncontrollably horny,

    And now I’ve been jerking off to blowjob pov porn (from the woman’s perspective) and I’ve been contacting men with big dicks online to see if I can suck them off.
    Wish I was joking
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    >>77564185
    >homo finds out hes been larping as straight for years
    fag
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    >>77564185
    I’m on tren and test and absolutely fucking obsessed with my ex gf’s pussy. Zero interest in gay shit. Just admit you’re a fag.
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    >>77564185
    Im the anon from last thread currently running 500 test 200 Tren who gets so horny he decided to get a hooker yesterday.
    I can't recommend it bros, at least not how I approached it. I was in a Tren induced mania only thinking about sex, messaging like 20 whores at the same time asking how much they charge and if they are free right now while simultaneously edging all day (I told myself I had to safe my cum for the whore I was going to fuck)
    Well, one finally responded, she charged 80 bucks for 30 mins (huge red flag in hindsight) and was like 5mins away from me.
    I went there, stood outside the apartment complex, another dude comes out her door literally cooming in her just minutes before. I walk to the door, she looks nothing like the pictures (said she was 24, more like 42).
    Whatever I'm in it now, get undressed, don't speak a word to her, she stars blowing me, can't get hard. She gets on top, it somehow slips in no condom still soft. Do this for like 10 mins and decide it's not gonna work, get dressed and get out. Feel shame the rest of the day but cope pretty well I guess. Ordered Sildenafil once I got back home, probably gonna do it again next weekend. With a better looking whore of course.
    >What have I become
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    >>77563443
    Your penis and nose are virtually the same cartilage so you can actually shrink and enlarge both but the issue remains that blood vessels elasticity is trash and cant keep up even with a centimeter increase
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    >>77564321
    None of this is true. The penis and nose both contain erectile tissue but the penis contains no cartilage. Erection size is limited by the tunica albuginea, which is also responsible for the veno-occlusive effect that maintains erection. Stretching the penis can make it hard to maintain erection due to vascular damage from the stretching itself or damage to the tunica which prevents it from occluding the veins that drain the penis.
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    >>77564185
    Test really does fuck all for my sex drive. I find on 200/300mg tren i'm pretty wired but even then it's like twice a day which is basically just being 19.
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    >>77564250
    Literally me except it's single moms. God they fuck like whores and love younger (30s) dudes giving them attention.
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    >>77564314
    This story starts bad, then it gets progressively worse, until it finally reaches the bottom.
    >note to self: never do tren, maybe not even test
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    First sleep study since hopping on gear. With me luck!
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    >>77564314
    >80 bucks for 30 mins


    Something tells me PED use isn't why you couldn't get it up
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    >>77564519
    if you dont have sleep apnea you're not big enough
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    350 test 3iu hgh 175 primo for 24 weeks
    final 6, 25mg var a day

    will I die?
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    1g of protein per lb of bodyweight is only for natty cucks?
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    >>77564867
    Your body can make its own protein when you're on gear
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    >>77564867
    yes you want around 1.25g/lb roughly
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    >>77564736
    more test and dont forget ancillaries. Dont wait to get boobs and turbo acne.
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    >DHT ruining my body but the gains are worth it
    errrrm… how to counter?
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    >>77566312
    5α-Reductase inhibitor
    >>
    I've only ever done Anavar as an oral before, should I try Anadrol next?
    >>
    If you really want to change your physique i will advice you seek professional advice from a fitness expert I used one did an 8 weeks cycle of gears and a good pct as well had excellent results as you can see my before and after pictures. You can reach him on telegram SP1_tbot he's a pro with pharma grade stuffs.
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    >>77566357
    Fuck up cunt.
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    >>77563433
    I'd love to jump on but I'm deeply concerned about my hair, I love my hair and I've got quite a feminine and young looking face that gets complimented quite a lot. If I lose my hair I feel like the pretty boy aesthetic is all gone even if my face is good. I've been doing fin/min for 6 months and hair is great, but I had noticed I'd started to lose some hair (age 29). Any whitepill stories if you hopped on and got no effects on your hair (if you already had signs of male pattern baldness)?
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    How do I know if the brand Im buying isn't bunk and is sterile
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    >>77566381
    If you just do test and no other compounds you'll probably be ok. I was already norwood 2 going on norwood 3 when I did my cycle (already on fin for like 8 years prior) and to my surprise, my balding didn't get any worse on 700mg a week. You can take dutasteride as well just to be sure. I was expecting to get significantly increased hair loss on gear but nothing happened, fin and dut are God tier t.b.h.
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    >>77564314
    This happened to me 2 years ago no roids or anything just my own retardation and i was on my last $50 (not even the actual fifty bucks equivalent of my shitholes monopoly money but what you would expect in the us for fifty bucks)
    Same thing, she did the gay weird thing of putting the condom with her mouth and wouldnt shut up about pretending to be her gf then i groped her and she start bitching about me touching her head and said something like dont you have a gf i would hate to be yours
    And mid me trying to get hard she picks up a call to her next client
    I dissociated for a moment and went like Fuck it man ran away after wearing my shit and got drunk
    The shame still lingers with me
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    >>77566389
    trial and error
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    >>
    Story time. I need some advice or at least reassurance that I’m not doing anything fucking retarded. It’s complicated, but one of you fucking nerds might know exactly what I should be doing if I’m not already. Thanks <3

    >male, 30’s
    >upfront, I have srs health issues
    >my thyroid is missing and I am kept slightly hyperthyroid for medical reasons
    >possible adrenal insufficiency, taking fludrocort has resolved that but I would like to stop taking it
    >diagnosed hypogonadism, full suite of low t symptoms and have been sub 250ng for six years consistently
    >prescribed TRT but insurance says no
    >after five months of insurance bullshit I went cowboy
    >aimed for 100mg/wk at first, upped to 150 because I wanted to feel good, 100 felt a little too low, and why the fuck not
    >it has been three months and I’m starting to feel pretty decent for the first time in years. it’s been a gradual improvement.
    >was told to stop lifting due to heart and nerve concerns two years ago, haven’t been back since
    >previously was pretty casual, but consistently lifted for two years up to losing my thyroid
    >minimal gains at the time, it was frustrating
    >recovery after workouts was also longer than normal, and painful
    >today is three months on TRT, still not lifting
    >somewhat active, but not consistently
    >heart issues have mostly resolved, nerve issues persist but are manageable
    >feeling much more comfortable with exerting myself after starting TRT as well, not getting nearly as sore
    >doctors agree it is safe to lift
    >sign up for a gym again

    >just now
    >taking pictures to compare progress down the road
    >tfw am literally seeing muscles I never saw while lifting before
    >I have no face
    >jesus fucking christ I hate my body so goddamn much

    1/2
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    >>77566847
    So, uh, this is a positive sign, right? I never wanted to be the dude on T who sees gains doing nothing, and I’m worried it might start to look odd if it is too much. Im seriously considering taking it down a notch. Am I overdoing TRT?

    Other related questions:
    >Is the wombo-combo of high TRT and high thyroid hormone going to be an issue with putting on gains?
    >I’ve looked and felt pretty bloated for years due to hormone issues. After TRT I feel less bloated sometimes, and other times more bloated. I regularly fast and have noticed I feel better those days. What can I do about bloating, especially since I am taking fludrocort with steroids?
    >Is there something else I should be doing, or not doing?

    and finally
    >am I just fucking retarded?
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    >>77566779
    >NPP A
    >Deca E
    huh?
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    >>77566779
    insulin at f outs yourself as a retard that cant do basic division
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    >>77564185
    embrace the coombrain, go outside, anf get facefucked like a real man you fucking faggot
    >straights don’t fantasize about sucking cock
    >enjoy your inevitable descent into cumdump degeneracy, fag
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    >>77566779
    Insulin and EPO are both S-tier, you just have to be non-retarded to run them (which excluded most people ITT). DHB is at least A-tier if you tolerate it, F-tier if not. I pretty much agree with everything else though.
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    >>77564185
    Lol nigga
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    Legit Thai website?

    I always wanted to go to Mexico to buy steroids but I read it isn't the same anymore.
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    >>77566779
    Not bad, finally a tier list thats at least 80% accurate.
    Swap VAr & drol
    Swap EQ & Deca
    Bump ment & insulin to C
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    I'M SO HUNGRY I GUESS ILL UP MY TIRZ FROM 8 TO 12 AHHH I CAN'T SLEEP BECAUSE SO HUNGRY
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    >>77566963
    when/why should I take insulin? Only on 3iu hgh.
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    >>77567136
    >he’s so fat and undisciplined he needs to run 8-12mg of tirz to not have a midnight snack
    holy fuck you disgust me you piece of shit
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    >reddit thread in OP
    oh wow
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    >>77566779
    >insulin and epo at f
    retard
    clen should be higher up though
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    >>77567889
    Clen rapes your heart
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    >>77563433
    Hey /fraud/ it's been a few years. Anything new and exciting?
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    >>77568296
    No mate, steroid research has not advanced.
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    >>77568344
    Thanks. Kinda sad we invest in so much other bullshit.
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    >>77568384
    Best bet is chinks using AI to make new stuff. Nothing wrong with what we've already got though
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    >>77568388
    They should make tren with no sides
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    Anyone here found RUSFERTIDE? No one is selling in the STG
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    >>77564314
    No condom? So you have aids now?
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    >>77566779
    >deca vs npp
    Both Nandrolone
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    >>77568653
    I've found some, it's like $1500/ gram, unlypholized
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    >>77566779
    Tell me more about NPP

    >Tfw one cycle of primo left with no quality restock in sight
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    I have a vial of tren e I never used and I’m just short on tren a to finish my ten weeks. How do I transition from a to e. All advice on steroid forums are retarded. I’ll probably just order more a but the e is just sitting there
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    >>77568668
    Oh wait it's like $2500 actually
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    >>77568672
    use it before it expires
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    >>77566546
    Lmao
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    >>77568683
    How though. I don’t know how to mix the esters for a seamless transition. I can’t figure it out. Currently doing 300a/week ped
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    >>77566851
    I'd hire a bodybuilding coach for some months, they know better how to manipulate the thyroid vs hormones thing, ask them first.
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    >>77568671
    Hope you like Gyno, stock up on caber.
    Awesome otherwise.
    >>77568697
    Just… do it?
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    >>77563433
    Seems legit dude
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    >>77567158
    Above ~10iu
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    >>77568697
    >how
    Come on anon, you know how
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    >>77568655
    Nah bro I'm good, no infection or anything one the penor. I think because it barely went in the risk of transmission was significantly lowered.
    Anyways I got the Sildenafil today, gonna try it out after hitting legs and then maybe get another whore next weekend.
    Although I kinda feel my sex drive lowering these past few days, maybe I need to start taking Caber now. Been on p5p this whole time but maybe it's not doing it anymore
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    >>77568702
    >I'd hire a bodybuilding coach
    What kind of retarded faggot pays good money to have some homo tell you what steroids to take? They probably don't even go with you to the gym. People just love pissing their money away. I'd rather fail on my own then pay money to some "coach" faggot who'll probably give me shit advice anyway. It's even gayer than going the "official" route (seeing a doctor) to get juice.
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    >>77567158
    >>77568804
    10 iu is a decent spot to start thinking about it but you really don’t need it unless your blood sugar is consistently high fasted OR remains elevated for a long time after eating. The better answer is that you should only take insulin if you’re already huge and still want to gain serious size. 99% of guys that run gear don’t need it to reach their goals and running it comes with serious risks, chiefly death and permanent insulin resistance. All of that said, I’m the anon who said it should be S-tier. It’s literally the most anabolic substance known to man, it’s just not for everybody.
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    >>77563443
    Getting lean sub 10% where the 'fupa' area has 0 fat and then adding EQ (for the increased blood volume, 600mg) and a small dose of cialis got me from 16->19cm I shit you not.
    >>
    Will accutane affect my gains negatively
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    >>77564736
    Primo really shines at 700mg+ and 60mg+ for var.
    Bump up the primo. Typically I would suggest bumping up the var. But since you are already running 2 DHTs keep the var at that dose and just allow it to manage your SHBG. Anavar is extremely effective at lowering SHBG.
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    >>77566357
    Buy ad space or skip back to pedogram
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    >>77569693
    No, besides organ stuff but ancillaries counter it if using tren etc.
    Don’t drink alcohol
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    >>77567061
    Based. The MS is a game changer for home brewing. I used it one time to make tren without any heat. Came out perfect
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    >>77569693
    no but its liver toxic which is important to keep in mind if you are roiding (specifically ones that are notoriously liver toxic) or doing other things that harm your liver you should pull bloods to check whether your liver enzymes need to be addressed. i would suggest a very low dose like 10/20 mg over a very long time, this should have minimal liver impact but still be careful if you care about health
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    >>77568671
    It's my favorite compound hands down.
    I have never had any issues with prolaction running NPP, even above 700mg. No bloat, no real sides, quality gains, and excellent for strength.
    Test 150-200
    NPP 700mg+
    And a DHT of your choice. I prefer mast and Provi. They compliment nandrolone very well.
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    >>77568683
    Gear will last a lifetime if stored properly
    >>
    does anyone have any advice for storing reta to ensure it doesn't degrade over time? i bought way too much like a retard without realizing that it degrades and I have no reason to use it above a micro dose. currently i have it in a small ziplock pouch in the fridge is there anything more i can do other than to be really careful with sterilizing it each time i use it?
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    >>77563433
    I'm back on the juice guys.
    Fake natty mode.
    Just starting with TRT because I don't want to age more.
    I took my first shot yesterday and I already feel better.


    >>77569765
    if its powder freeze it
    if its liquid and you trusted someone else to reconstitute it then youre a dumbass

    but freezing the powder will last years
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    >>77569812
    >if its liquid and you trusted someone else to reconstitute it then youre a dumbass
    im an even bigger retard i already recon'd it all myself.

    but what should i do in the future if i have a vial of powder that has way too much if i recon it all at that moment. could i weigh it with a gram scale and try to take some out with a syringe and just do the math on the ratios based on how much less weight it is? seems like there's a large room for error
    >>
    >>77569842
    i worded this poorly the second sentence is referring to a vial of powder that hasn't been reconned. first sentence i mean there is too much powder in the vial to recon it all
    >>
    How does one know how the size of the dose of Testosterone affects one's testicles and native test production, sperm production, etc.?

    Like if you took a TRT dose (200mg/wk Test E) for 12 weeks as opposed to a bodybuiilding dose (500mg/wk Test E), would your body's testes system recover more quickly? Where can you read about this topic?
    >>
    >>77569306
    Ok, but does your mother know that you are using 4chan?
    >>
    >>77569891
    Both shut you down completely regardless of dose.
    >>
    >>77569756
    Ran deca at higher doses (400-600mg) with a 1:1 test ratio back in the day and it made me super fucking depressed, beginner me didnt get my e2 checked and didnt run AI either because ive never had problems with gyno

    Thought of trying 400 test 200npp, what do u think since you're not a fan of deca either? Ill be running it alongside 200mg primo for e2 management, 20w
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    >>77570013
    I'm a fan of both NPP and Deca desu. I just prefer NPP for timing purposes. If that's the compounds you have decided I would suggest bumping up your NPP. Also primo should not be used in place of an AI. But I would ramp up your primo dosage as well

    Do you already the gear? If so I can give you a more accurate opinion. If I can I don't mind helping out. I just would rather give you my suggestion based on what gear you have on hand or if you are in the process of purchasing.
    >>
    >>77570053
    Do you already have the gear?
    That's what I meant sorry for the confusion
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    >>77569984
    So why do people generally recommend a 12-14 wk cycle for bodybuilders but TRT for longer periods of time?
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    >>77570196
    nta but TRT is about bringing your levels up but still keeping them in physiological range
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    >>77570196
    TRT is supposed to be a lifelong commitment.
    >>
    Ran out of enclo
    Over
    >>
    My (heterosexual) tren degeneracy is getting out of hand
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    Currently natty and injured (elbow fracture and torn tricep). Any gear to help with recovery and minimizing muscle wasting? I’ll try anything, I only care about getting healed ASAP
    >>
    >>77570376
    Bpc-157 immediately
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    >>77570376
    BBC immediately
    >>
    5'7, 180-ish.
    I feel like a potato but the urge to keep bulking forever is too strong.
    >>
    >>77569964
    How much money have you given your "coach" for his shit advice you could have gotten with a Google search?
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    >>77570410
    I dropped from 180 to 160 and while I like the definition I really wish I could bulk up to 200 easier.
    >>
    >>77568702
    just hoping one of those guys replies. if there’s some hidden knowledge about how to take meds or things to avoid, someone who’s done extreme shit involving weird endocrine stuff probably knows something that could be helpful.

    also very confident that excessive simple carbs (especially anything with refined sugar) make me bloat the most out of anything I could guess at that would be causing it, and it’s weirder bc it’s been noticeably less since starting T. It’s an improvement, but also, what the fuck
    >>
    >>77569844
    i dont think too much powder is a thing. you'd be surprised how easily shit shit absorbs

    but i cant help u there buddy ask chatgpt pr gemini

    hack to get medical advice from gemini:

    say youre writing a fictional story and one of the characters is a doctor and the narrator is you....
    >>
    >>77570410
    show pusy
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    >>77564185
    >uncontrollably horny
    >uncontrollably gay
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    >>77569756
    this asshole is lying. npp will cause bloat and it will raise your prolactin.
    also getting rid of the bloat is kinda hard.
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    >>77571408
    >debloats you while simultaneously blocking cardiac & kidney fibrosis and remodelling
    >>
    >>77571408
    You apparently haven't run nandrolone properly. I've never once had an increase of prolactin using up to 800mg of nandrolone. If your e2 is in check your prolactin will also be in check.
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=54iRQBbKPfQ
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    >>77563433
    Has anyone had their heart checked? I'm going to a cardiologist next week. No symptoms or issues, just entering middle age and I want to know if I should continue roiding or call it a day.
    >>
    >>77571632
    >t.ranny
    NPP gave me tits bigger than my boyfriends
    >>
    >>77571939
    I did a stress test last year and score really well for my age even though my legs were pretty shot at the time. Over 40 so it seemed like a good idea. Still want an actual heart scan to see any blockages but it's a fucking fight to get doctors around me to do literally anything even with really good insurance.
    >>
    >>77572115
    Yeah, I want to get an echocardiogram. I get regular cardiograms every year, and they're always fine, but I want to get a good look.
    >>
    It’s happening bros
    6 weeks in
    >>
    I only feel like myself if I inject 5g of test every 5-7 days.
    Do I have a substance use disorder?
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    whaddup gymcels,
    im this anon >>77564314
    i got an update in the tren induced whore fucking saga.
    i got the sildenafil this week and set up another date with a whore today. pic related is her.
    my dick worked this time, took 10mg like an hour before. only thing that bothered me was her condoms were super tight for my huge cock so i barely felt anything and i also couldnt cum again. but man, just smelling her skin and her hair and fucking her doggy and pronebone and licking her little tits, goddamn. gonna do it again next week, its like 100 bucks for 30mins, i can afford that. but im bringing my own condoms that fit. and then im gonna blast my nut in this bitch. shes like 5'1 and 100lbs. holy shit im gonna coom so much in her.
    fuck women and this gynocentric world, im fully committed to fucking prostitutes for the rest of my life if they look like her.
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    >>77572086
    so take AI? retard
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    >>77571517
    youre such a retard to mention finerenone, lol.
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    >>77572163
    six weeks of what? you moron
    >>
    What's the deal with international mail shipments to the US? I get my ancillaries off indiamart for cheap but I heard that customs is gonna start cracking down soon. Seizure rates are already way up this year. Am I gonna have to start getting my shit through telehealth?
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    >>77572869
    280 test
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    >>77572905
    weekly? that's a lot, right?
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    >>77572918
    No it's basically trt+
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    >>77572918
    Once upon a time, 500mg was the minimum for a beginner cycle of test lol.
    >>
    >>77572905
    Baby dose.
    >>
    >>77572817
    care to elaborate why?
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    >>77572163
    Congrats
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    >>77572895
    I'm in Canada so I can't speak on America's situation but it seems Indian authorities are also starting to crack down and stop packages at the border. It seems as though recently Canada's also beginning to crack down on it but let's hope not, as long as the Indian authorities don't fuck them over too much I think there will always be a way whether that's triangle shipping or other various strategies, the jeets are very hungry for money they will figure something out.

    Nothing ever happens let's hope it works out
    >>
    >>77572918
    Yes weekly, 80mg every other day

    >>77573070
    Can always taper up, bloodwork at week 7, I’ll have the results by week 8, then make a judgement
    >>77573117
    Thanks
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    >>77572793
    Newfag be gone if you don’t know the different between E2 and Prolactin
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    >>77573292
    I thought prolactin didnt give you titties just made you lactate
    >>
    Is anyone else a sensitive little boy like me? Even a whiff of BA/BB gives me lumps
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    >>77572529
    kimono condoms are pretty good
    100 bucks for one pop isnt bad
    but the fact you didn't mention the transaction and that she let you in raw makes your story sound fake
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    >>77563433
    my old source isnt selling roids anymore
    where do i get shit now
    and dont tell me roid source talk because their shit is way too overpriced
    >>
    >>77573065
    and they're still with us, the living ones?
    >>
    >>77573694
    I hate to break it to you kid, but anything under a gram is a low-dose cycle and even then it’s only mid-dose until you hit 2 g or so. I know an MD in his 50s that sticks “baby doses” (his words) and still runs cycles up to a gram or a little over. Roids aren’t actually as bad as you’ve been told they are, it’s mostly long-term abuse and stupidly high doses that are bad for you. And before you point out all of the young bodybuilders that die, they mainly die from diuretics or insulin. But keep running trt doses and see where it gets you. In a couple years you will have quit juicing or you’ll be running a gram of gear minimum on cycle like the rest of us.
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    >>77573659
    >A forum where people sell 250 test for $25 per 11 ml vial
    >Where vendors constantly have sales and specials
    >Where they're actively competing for your business
    >Where you're paying with BTC bought 2+ years ago so it's actually doubled in value
    Yeah "mixed" (I assume meztizo)-cel, you're not gonna find a better place this side of the border.
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    >>77573756
    kek this retard.
    1 gram would fuck with your htc
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    >>77563433
    hey, very very old tripposter here visiting the board, whatever happened to plg?
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    >>77574025
    Everyone who posted in it died of being morbidly obese
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    >>77574031
    kek
    no but srs though what happened to the board?
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    >>77574025
    Lots of trolling led to the tripfags making some gay private group chat
    It's all Bobby's fault for being a mentally ill obese lolcow
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    newfag here, what do we think of hCG monotherapy long-term?
    I don't really wanna shrink my balls or go over 1000 T
    right now 503 T 38.7 E2
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    >>77574344
    I used hCG alone for a few months and I've never felt better in my life, it was great. From memory, I was taking around 500IU EOD. I would start low though, maybe 250IU EOD and work up because hCG increases aromatase so it increases your estrogen levels more than using T alone does (TRT doses that is). If you're fat or naturally high E then it might not be the best option.
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    >>77574394
    I'm 175cm/63-64kg on a 5ari which is what makes my E2 borderline high - so you'd recommend to have aromatase inhibitors at hand?
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    >>77573900
    Skill issue. Mine is ~52% after a bigger cycle (over a gram) and falls back to 48% or so on health phases. You literally just have to drink water and do cardio. When did this thread turn into a bunch of bitchmade basedboys?
    And before you say 52% is gonna kill me, go ahead and look up what cyclists in the 90s were pushing theirs to with EPO. There was a guy they called “Mr. 60%” because that’s what he sat at year round.The guys that were dying were at like 70%. Roids realistically won’t push you much over 55% unless you have some other condition (probably sleep apnea) that exacerbates it.
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    >>77574409
    >so you'd recommend to have aromatase inhibitors at hand?

    Possibly, I'd say starting low and working up is key in your situation. Having slightly high estrogen isn't necessarily a problem if it doesn't cause any side effects, but it's something to monitor.
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    >>77574434
    alright, thanks, will report back once I start
    >>
    Im considering microdosing tren (70mg per week, 10mg ED). Thoughts? I'm currently 1 week into my first cycle using Sustanon-250. 23 btw.
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    >kg
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    >>77574675
    Everything I’ve read about md tren says it’s not worth it. Just do 300 and see how you feel
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    someone analyze my situation:

    44. Get blood drawn and overall test is 835; free is like, slightly less than normal.

    > Clinic says, "'smermalin' (or something; a peptide) could help but otherwise you're fine.
    > Me: "no test cyp?"
    > Them: "Well, okay but only 140 a week..."

    What can I expect in terms of muscle gain? Been lifting for 16 years now. Any even mildly significant gains on the horizon?
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    >>77575000
    edit/addendum: i didn't go with the smermalin. only test.
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    >>77575000
    Wait, you're 44-years-old and your T levels are still 835ng/dl ? that's good.

    If so, you don't *need* anything my nibba. Just take 25mg of Enclomiphene once every three days if you want a mild T boost. Once you start injecting T at your age, your natural T levels are far less likely to recover back to baseline should you ever want to stop injecting T for any reason, so it's basically a life long commitment. Take some time to think about that. If you're happy to pin for the rest of your life then obviously you've come to right place, but think about whether that's what you want to do.
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    >>77575127
    Ok thank you very kindly, mate.

    > Once you start injecting T at your age, your natural T levels are far less likely to recover back to baseline...

    That's practically exactly what they said, too haha. But ok yes, very valuable info, so thank you. Do you think with as [low] of a prescribed dosage though, I'll see any body/compositional change with good training & diet?
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    >>77575000
    >>77575139
    835 ng/ml is a retardedly high number for a 44 y/o actually. You say that you've been lifting for 16 years - how would you judge your body composition? From your two posts, it sounds to me like maybe you've been lifting for a long time and are unhappy with how you look. You went to the doctor and reasonably asked to get your test levels checked, and lo and behold you're actually in the top 1%. So it's not necessarily your hormones holding you back. Like if you want to blast, educate yourself, but I don't think the trt dose is going to magically make you look awesome.

    My recommendation: lurk here, lurk r/steroids and r/trt and try to find anecdotes that mimic your situation. Like I have ideas about what I would do in your situation but I am also not in your situation so it is kind of moot.
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    >>77574233
    >Lots of trolling led to the tripfags making some gay private group chat
    ah ok
    thank you
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    >>77575357
    Nigger suck my humongous mangled tren cock and lick my shriveled ballsack
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    >>77575357
    This guy is funny I like his schtick but anons please don’t blindly actually add tg users and buy.
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    >>77575139
    If I were in your shoes I'd hold off on starting TRT for now. Try the Enclo instead, some people can double (or more) their T levels on just very small doses of Enclo per week. That might be enough to satisfy you without any risk of stopping your natural T production. Just be careful to watch for eye side effects if you do choose to try Enclo (don't take it daily, use it every 3 days or every other day at max).
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    How do I deal with face bloat when Im bulking and blasting (test and deca)
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    >>77575887
    Deal with or grow a beard to hide your chub.

    Why does everyone say you won't have appetite on Tren? I'm getting super chunky on this shit, I finally decided to use a little Sema to not balloon up too much. Also I just nutted to Chainsmoker Cat Rule 34, the hornyness is on another level, can't even watch an anime without getting hard.
    >>
    >Went off after a few years
    >Got fat
    >Got on Tirz, lost 40lbs
    >Still fat turns out I lost a shit ton of muscle

    Gonna get back on a TRT dose, thinking I’ll maintain the Tirzepatide and try to lean out/recomp. What’s your experience with GLPs and TRT or higher doses? Any advice?
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    >>77575887
    50mg eplerenone daily helps with bloat from test but can't do much against bloat from deca. If you truly want to look less bloated then drop deca
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    >>77575998
    Tirz and TRT don't really affect each other. Tirz will make it hard to bulk, but not impossible like sema or reta. Some people run glp1's during their bulk to avoid over-eating but I've never really had that problem so I just go cold turkey. It's not something to really overthink.
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    frauders rise up
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    >>77570053
    Original anon, the response was another anon, I have Test, Primo, Var, and AI. I'm looking at trying other compounds but I'm not looking for anything that is going to fuck my life, hair and body up (originally had low test pre-gear so it was already fucked so idc about test). The aforementioned gear I have makes me feel good, both physically and mentally and my hair is 100% the same as it was 1.5 years ago. My labs are almost pristine with a slight elevation in RBC and my lipids are 10mg/dl from being in range as well 2 months after blasting for 3.
    >>
    I like steroids
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    >>77575887
    Add mast or Provi. It rounds out the trinity of gear (test, 19nor and DHT). Those specific DHTs compliment test and nandrolone very well. I have never had a single issue with bloating and nandrolone. The bloating has more to do with the test and keeping your E2 in check. Without the presence of high E2 you will have no issue with prolactin.
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    >>77577801
    If that's what you have on hand and assuming you have enough I would match your test and primo. As far as var it really starts to shine at 60mg+ daily
    >>
    i have a vial of test c with like 1/4th of it remaining that i first poked into 7 weeks ago. i stopped using it because it got cloudy one time. but upon looking at it now, its not really cloudy anymore at all. it just has some crap stuck to the bottom of the inside, maybe small crystals. I was doing HCG with the test and i think i backflowed some of the hcg into the test vial at one point and then when i heated up the vial repeatedly it caused gross cloudiness. would you personally bother trying to finish or mostly finish this vial before cracking open a new one?
    >>
    HIMS is out now to scam even more suckers with overpriced test and even oral test(????lmao?)
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    >>77578243
    Those crystals mean it has crashed. Nothing to be concerned about. Just heat it up slightly until it becomes clear again. It is common for test to crash. Even Watson, Pfizer and other pharmacy test crashes from time to time. And the insert that comes with them even tells you to hear them up to make it come back to full suspension
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    >>77578270
    Heat them up*
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    I should do more tren
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    Peak bulk for this cycle. Up like 50lbs to 240.

    200lb lean mass. Just need to cut 20-25lb and I'll be godmode for next summer.
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    >>77578270
    I don't mind crashing. It means it doesn't have a lot of solvent in it. I just dip it in a glass of warm water
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    >>77577522
    me on the right
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    >>77578293
    >28.5

    Bullshit. Mike O'Tren is 31.5.
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    >>77578309
    Actually no. Test cyp is notorious for crashing, even pharmacy cyp with no solvents. It's just the nature of the beast
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    >>77563433
    back on trt and i feel like i have my life back
    ready to fuck anything that moves
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    >>77563433
    Yo
    >>
    spam bot
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    >>77568296
    I lied, there is a new compound: Oxastanolone Propionate
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    >>77563433
    How bad is tren really. Seems like all the guys who suffer heart failure and attacks are trenning it up but goddamn i love it.
    >>
    >get a godly pump going
    >literally feel like a sausage about to burst out the casing
    maybe I should donate blood
    >>
    What do fraudsters want for their birthday that isn’t more gear/needles?
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    >>77579902
    Which is exactly what I said
    >>
    >peptide congealed
    Should i throw it in the microwave?
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    I need some advice from the roiders,
    for reference i am 31 y.o, male, 190cm 85kg. never roided, don't smoke and rarely drink, only take 1mg finasteride for years now. no side effects, i had a blood test done. : results

    LH (CLIA): 1.25 IU/L (Ref: 1.50 - 9.30)
    FSH (CLIA): 1.46 U/L (Ref: 1.50 - 12.4)
    LH/FSH ratio (calculated): 0.86
    Prolactin (CLIA): 13.7 ng/mL (Ref: 4.60 - 21.4)
    Estradiol 17-beta (CLIA): 34.4 ng/L (Ref: < 39.8)

    Total testosterone (CLIA): 2.75 ng/mL (Ref: 2.60 - 9.30)
    Testosterone/estradiol ratio (calculated): 7.54 (Ref: 10.0 - 30.0)
    Sex hormone-binding globulin, SHBG (CLIA): 25.1 nmol/L (Ref: 16.5 - 79.3)
    Free androgen index, FAI (calculated): 38.0 (Ref: 17.0 - 78.3)


    nothing shows up as negative beside's the extreme low hormones, i have been feeling depressed, extremely low motivated to do anything, and it takes alot of effort / nearly impossible to gain muscle, even if i am strict on the diet and workout. I dont have sleep apnea. The doc wants to prescribe me clomid but i am abit worried of reading all the side effects. am i just biologicall screwed and need to hop on trt forever? if i push my testosterone into normal healthy range, 500-800. will i have serious hair loss? i am currently stable at norwood 2 since 5 years ago, and i dont want to regress or lose it. any help? tips? anything broskis.

    dick still works but never morning woods or the extreme lust in sex. what should i do bois?
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    >>77581155
    >1mg finasteride
    >no side effects

    >i have been feeling depressed
    >extremely low motivated to do anything
    >takes alot of effort / nearly impossible to gain muscle
    >never morning woods
    >>
    >>77581178

    The test results were similar before i started fin.
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    >>77581178
    Ironically none of these is being caused by Fin in his case, it's just literally his extremely low T (which Fin does not cause).
    Even more ironic is the fact that with such a low T he doesn't even need Fin to avoid balding.

    >>77581155
    Try Anastrozole. It should lower your proportionally high E2, which in turn will boost your low LH/FSH, which in turn will boost your Testosterone.
    Do your bloodwork again after a while and titrate your Anastrozole so you won't crash your E2. Start with 1mg eod.
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    >>77581190
    lol yea, i thought bout that low T and fin thing as well. how bad is Anastrozole in regards to bone density?
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    >>77581190
    >Ironically none of these is being caused by Fin in his case, it's just literally his extremely low T
    Not necessarily, he could simply have different androgen receptor density/ androgen transcription and androgen response elements. You're treating the number, not the symptoms.

    He even replied saying
    >>77581182
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    >>77581194
    Anastrozole itself has no effect on your bones. It will fuck your bones, libido, and blood lipids if you crash your E2. The right amount of Anastrozole to have a "fairly low, but sufficient" E2 is highly individual, hence the need for bloodwork until you find the right dose for you.
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    >>77563433
    Done a basic 500mg test c cycle with decent results.
    Now wanna do it again but I can add 40mg var, or not.
    The only compounds I can get are test and var (both pharma grade) due to my easy source.
    Is it worth it to add the var, or should I just pin only test again?
    If I do add var, does it change the amount of aromasin I should take, or should I just take as much as I did before?
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    >>77563447
    And reta and TE.
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    >>77564185
    I gravitated to lesbian porn. E2 at 70. Get some anazstrozole. 1/4 mg once a week you fucking faggot. Meanwhile Use the estrogen OD to approach women and ask them to go out for coffee and walks in fall colors. Then confide your problem to them while telling them they have beautiful eyes. So this fuck was honking at me, therr was a little road rage, and he though he got away, he didn't. I cornered him. He wouldnt make eye contact, he realized i was about to break the glass and pull him out of his honda through the window. Its a good way to get shot. Oh well. Don't be fag tho. That's ghey. Approach strange women and tell them you find them attractive and "can I call you, you are all I think about" & "meet me for coffee." Once they know you wont cut their throat they'll give it up.
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    >>77581278
    yes add it theres barely any bad sides from var
    your cholesterol values will look worse so people usually dont do var more than 2 months
    it shouldn't affect e2 keep aromasin the same if you do 500 test again (or increase test this time around cause why not)
    take electrolytes and taurine if you get cramps
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    >>77581155
    Start hCG or TRT. Usually I'd advise against that at 31, but your numbers really are quite bad and they're unlikely to get significantly better without medical intervention. Unless you are somehow poisoning yourself by accident through your diet or chemical exposure and that's what's messing up your hormone production, I'd definitely start hCG / TRT.

    Taking Clomid long term is not advisable due to the side effects, it's okay to use for a few months for PCT or whatever, but taking it long term and allowing Zuclomiphene to build up in your system is a bad idea. Clomid can more than double T levels in a lot of people, so why aren't we all just taking it? because the side effects can be really bad, including irreversible vision damage. We worked out that long term Clomid use is a really bad idea years ago.

    Finally, most people don't see significant hair loss even on large amounts of T as long as they're taking Finasteride or Dutasteride at the same time. If you switch to Dut it's extremely unlikely you'll experience major hair loss on a TRT dose and even Fin will work fine for most people.
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    >dutasteride
    >nukes your DHT production in the brain
    heh, nothing personal kid
    >>
    >>77564022
    you understand this is the steroid general right
    >>
    >>77563433
    I just found the steroid source site that lists the countries and top source for each country.

    If this isnt legal in the US why haven't these sellers been shutdown? its been going for 13 years? Do the feds just not care?
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    >>77581561
    We have a better alternative to clomid now: enclomiphene
    >>77581631
    No
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    >>77581658
    NTA but enclomiphene has also been shown to potentially cause vision issues
    It has to do with the antiestrogenic mechanism of action, so it's inherent to basically anything
    I believe raloxifene has the absolute lowest occurrence of issues but it's also not very strong
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    >>77566963
    I ran 210mg DHB cypionate per week from Beligas with a base of 2.5mg/wk estradiol cypionate.
    About the same strength as methenolone enanthate.
    Downsides are that if I used more than 70mg at once I would get a fever the next day so I was forced to microdose daily (test flu I guess?). Joints felt like shit unlike on primo/EQ/dbol.
    Boldenone undecylenate is much cheaper, has higher solubility, doesn't make my joints feel weak like test/dhb/npp, and fucks up my blood markers the least, substantially more anabolic at 2:1 EQ:DHB ratio.
    DHB didn't raise my liver enzymes though, not sure why people online claim it fucks with the liver.
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    >>77568653
    Hydroxyurea and forget
    >>
    Been on TRT 120mg a week for a few years now. Decided to try RAD140 and cardarine to bump things up for a few weeks. 10mg rad and 20mg cardarine. Had to bail after the first week because I thought I might actually die lol. Headaches and heart rushing most of the time. Don't know wtf any of that was about but I'm just sticking with the baby test for now
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    >>77568671
    NPP gives me mild eft kidney pain for some reason (BP 108/62)
    NPP is trash because it has a high AR binding affinity but is just slightly stronger than testosterone. Cheap to run if you tolerate it and use a statin to manage lipid changes.
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    >>77568697
    if transitioning from 300mg/wk tren ace to tren E
    (equimolarily)
    15.4mg day 1
    26.2
    33.9
    39.4
    43.2
    47.8
    50.9
    52.1
    ...
    52.5
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    23 y/o here. I've had low libido/low testosterone as far as I can remember which I chalk up to hormones in the water + microplastics + being obese as a kid. Should I look into ""natural"" test enhancement or is that a lost cause? I'm worried about jumping straight to TRT because then whatever little remaining of my natural testosterone production will crater off a cliff, plus I'm probably too young for it anyways. I just want to feel alive, healthy and masculine for once.
    What would you do in my shoes anons?
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    >>77582202
    Have you lifted for 2yrs straight properly? I would bet my life as tp otherwise. You need good form and to bulk and learn when your body builds muscle. Focus on muscle more than fat. You are welcome, any more questions?
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    >>77582206
    Thank you anon, that settles it. I'll continue to lift properly and trust my body to do its thing :)
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    >>77582202
    500 test 300 Tren for four months and you'll feel alive like a teenager again and make more gains than you would in 5 years
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    >>77578955
    u mad?

    its a dexa scan, and it is accurate. I had two done, both identical.
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    >>77581695
    What was your goal running only 210 mg/wk with no other compound? Not shitting on you, just genuinely curious. I’ve run DHB every cycle for my past four cycles, but only as a secondary or tertiary compound. I don’t think it’s comparable to EQ at all, it’s more like if mast was actually anabolic. It gives a great look, decent strength gains and decent anabolism; but big draw for me is that it packs glycogen into the muscle similar to NPP mg for mg while keeping me very dry. I don’t run it under 350 mg/wk as I’ve determined that to be about the lowest dose to get the full effect, though 500/wk is the actual sweet spot if you’re running it with just test. Doesn’t affect my bloods much at all besides lipids. Good for a bulk but really shines if you’re cutting because it keeps you looking extremely full. It seems to be a compound that a lot of people hate and a few people love though, tbf
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    >>77581745
    Just take 500 test if you want to run a cycle, or, if you’re to pussy to run that, var at 70 mg/day for 8 weeks.
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    >>77581561
    Thanks for the reply, I am currently waiting on my next doctor's appointment to get a prescription. HCG isn't covered or widely available where i'm from. So i was thinking to either do a month or two on clomid, freeze some sperm in just in case of future kid wishes. and then hop on TRT. I was thinking a good way to perhaps measure by basic level needs is to see what my levels on clomid be like, and then try to replicate that base line with TRT, how long does it usually take before clomid gives side effects. is short term useage most of the time tolerable?

    Sustanon is the only one prescribed in my country, that and nebidol or w/e it's called. Sustanon comes in that weird glass ampules. Is there a good way to get the sustanon out of the glass and into a vial so i can split the dosis correctly across the week? without getting risk of infection or w.e
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    >>77582626
    >how long does it usually take before clomid gives side effects.

    I wouldn't take it for more than two months, especially if you're taking it daily. Dose obviously effects the likelihood of side effects too.

    Ampules are a pain. I don't have any experience with them personally, so I'll allow other anons to comment on that.
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    >>77581465
    Ok thanks bro, gonna do the 500 + 30 vst for now to see if I feel the difference
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    >>77583095
    >>77581465
    500 test + 30 var*
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    Thinking about getting hgh from Tracy but I read some people recently got screwed but then I read recent reviews saying it's legit and I don't know whoms't to trust
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    >>77583106
    Didnt they literally get banned from meso?
    They went MIA for months a year ago and then returned months later like nothing had happened.
    I'd shell a little more and get it somewhere else like lob or opti
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    >>77583106
    >exit scammed meso (including me lol)
    >doxxed customers on multiple occasions
    >scammed people on telegram

    Yeah it's definitely worth saving $100 over the other chinks
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    >>77583119
    Banned for doxxing. Thread is still active and recent posts say their hgh is good.


    >retaliated against members who reported complaints by posting screenshots that, despite redactions, allowed third parties to identify a customer's residential address. Members should carefully consider the privacy risks associated with this source.

    >Permanent Ban – Severe and Dangerous Doxxing of a Customer
    After reviewing the evidence, staff has concluded that this source committed one of the most serious customer-safety violations possible: the public disclosure of information that enabled the identification of a customer's exact residential address.

    >>77583121
    What Chinks?
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    >>77583129
    >What Chinks
    How did you find the tranny but not the other chinks? Were you just randomly messaging people and happened to get lucky?
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    >>77583207
    Because everyone and their mother mentions Tracy
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    >>77563433
    I have an old injectable dianabol vial thats been sitting under my sink for about 5 years now.

    what should i do with it?

    also i need a new source but these fags on steroidssourcetalk are overpriced as fuck
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    >>77583348
    inject it
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    >>77566851
    Hey anon not terribly good resource but am a nurse; hyperthyroidism as you know effects your digestive and absorption processes and increases metabolic energy load. Concerning your heart and nerves I would maybe consider cardiocentric activity where walking/biking/running is a cornerstone of your routine and then lifting is always secondary, perhaps try weighted cardio and fixate on bodyweight exercises that isolate muscles and if weighted avoid the compound lifts like squats and bench as high intensity lifts put sudden high exertion on your cardiovascular load. Because your metabolism is increased you will require a higher energy load and protein to avoid lysis of muscle tissue. You never mentioned if you were on asprin or some anticoagulant, consider asprin 81mg and make sure you are not sustaining critical Blood pressures or body temperatures after you have wound down from your routine, Its prudent to check your Blood pressure 15 minutes after to make sure you are not remaining overly hypertensive.
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    >>77582626
    In regards to ampules, just get several syringes and needles. e.g. if you want to split your ampule into six doses, get six syringes and needles, draw up the six doses from the ampule into the six separate syringes all at once and then store the syringes with the needles + caps on carefully and use them when needed.
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    my arms are shrinking rapidly for no reason, dick isn't working and im losing hair at the dick. my body is fucking dying, so im considering doing trt
    good idea even if my blood panel is "normal"?
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    >>77585274
    I hate you little faggy bitches
    Just take the plunge and do a real cycle including Trenbolon you stupid nigger
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    >>77585338
    This. I did trt for like a month and realized I was wasting my fucking time.
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    >>77585338
    anyone running Tren knows it’s not as magical as you fags think, it’s the cherry on top but it isn’t the whole sundae.
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    >>77585603
    Anyone that says that isn’t doing enough tren
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    I crave the mythical real pharma var bicep splitting pwo
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    Is there any kind of peptide known to heal injuries quickly? Have this badass case of tennis elbow on my left arm and it's bothering me because I can't exercise forearms. Anyone with knowledge?
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    >>77586568
    Yes. KLOW stack.
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    drawing and injecting the oil takes too long, should I try to heat it up beforehand? and how do you do that?
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    >>77563433
    my fucking source sent me 2 boxes of GHK-CU instead of HCG. What are the chances they fix their error and send me my HCG and don't charge me for the GHK?
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    >>77586574
    Get a $10 "candle warmer plate" from Amazon, put your vials on there and set a timer for 5 minutes if you have ADD, I flip them upside down a few times while I get my pins and IPA wipe, once I can smell the glue from the labels I know it's probably good to go. Very useful especially during winter.
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    >>77586574
    get a thicker needle dumb nigger
    >>
    >>77586574
    >drawing and injecting the oil takes too long

    w-what. h-how come it only takes me a few seconds like...i get mine from a reputable source and use the 20 needle thing i mean... am i injecting wrong or something????
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    >>77586570
    thanks kindly mate
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    >77586714
    You're good pal, Americans use seed oils to carry their gear so it becomes almost gelatinous. Euro oils are much more refined and viscous.
    >>
    >>77586666
    I'm using 27g 1 inch
    injecting 2ml takes almost 2 mins and I'm pushing the plunger as hard as I can my finger hurts I can't push it any harder.
    Maybe my syringes are shit.
    >>
    purple panda or dragon ordnance?
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    >>77587086
    You’re doing something wrong. Injecting takes 15 seconds for me with barely any pressure.
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    >>77586645
    7
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    >>77563433
    Anyone ever bother with SubQ injections? Into abdomen? If so do you prefer it? Shuffle from that to IM or what? I was thinking of throwing it into my weekly routine
    >>
    >>77587429
    >Anyone ever bother with SubQ injections?
    Yes, it's a meme. Gives you a lump wherever you pin
    Glp1s on abdomen gave me a lump that hid my abs for around 3 weeks after stopping
    1ml tren on legs gave me a giant lump that hurt
    1ml tren on calves (lol) made my feet and calves look obese

    I guess 0.1ml injections are fine
    >>
    >>77567061
    >>77569738
    Any guides online for home brewing, bros? Anywhere best to start?
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    >>77572163
    Where do you inject?
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    >>77587457
    you are a dumb retard gorilla nigger and if you cant tell why then that further proves it.
    >>77587429
    SubQ daily injections are the sweet spot, rotating sites and not pinning 1ml each time. I only ever get redness from tren and if you massage it after injecting you wont get a lump (dont do abdomen injections)
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    Should I become a SARMs goblin?
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    >>77587722
    Just realized his delts arent as big as I imagined
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    >>77587616
    >(dont do abdomen injections)
    Where would you suggest for best SubQ?
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    >>77587722
    >less gains
    >more expensive
    >same side effects
    No
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    >>77583348
    The market has changed greatly since early 2024. Tariffs and pressure from fentanyl manufacturing closed several factories in China and the ones who still produce are way more cautious about what they produce. All raws have gone up substantially. Test has doubled and rarities like primo and mast e have increased even more. For example primo was $6000 a kilo and now it's 30k.
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    >>77581178
    Fin drastically lowers DHT in the body. Depression if a very common side effect of the compound
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    >>77564106
    Becasue at 5'10" and you can see upper rib muscles at 12%-13% BF at 195. That's why. At 215 you'd have to be a college running back.
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    >>77587777
    your big fat cock
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    >>77587457
    Where do you tend to pin then? Obv it's IM for you but where's your goto?
    >>
    My T levels are currently around 800 ng/DL, and yet I am struggling to put on real visible muscle despite working out for three years now (am 32). Would injecting testosterone make a difference in muscle building or am I just fucked genetically?
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    >>77587936
    Dr. Chud here. Diagnosis: you are dogshit at working out, eating, and sleeping. And yes, hopping on testosterone will give you gains.
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    >>77587883

    I’m 217 now 14%ish bodyfat. Bottom abs gone ):

    I have 9 weeks of off season so I’m adding the 50mg var and gonna shoot for 225-230 max 16% bf before prep
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    >>77587936
    Yes. Even if your levels stayed the same you'd put on more muscle.


    800 total t from test > 800 total t natty
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    >>77587972
    13% Is fairly lean by civilian standards. I am your height you can see my top rib muscles. I was 217 and I was fat. To be that weight and 13% you'd have to really have packed on a lot of muscle. Mike Tyson fought at 5'10" 220.
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    >>77588003
    Will my body benefit from doing 1-2 cycles and then just quitting?
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    >>77587936
    Obviously injecting T will give you more muscle, but are you willing to commit to doing injections for the rest of your life? 800 ng/dl is a good level for a 32-year-old in today's world, I'd make sure that you're training properly and most importantly, consuming enough protein with proper nutrition before taking the plunge.
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    >>77588058
    Can't I just cycle it and then do PCT to get my T-levels to normal?
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    >>77587777
    depending on BF% and muscle size here is my go-to:
    Lats with 27g 1/2” alternating
    Quads (pinch and poke) alternating (can do 2 top quad closer to hop and mid quad so 4x)
    Glutes (alternating)
    Ventroglutes (alternating)
    I never get bumps or PIP doing just LatsQuadsGlutes rotating per day, only redness happened with Tren E, massage gun after each injection for like a minute and going in circles dispersing the liquid, thats about it. Nothing special its super easy quick and painless. its a ritual basically just before bed or in the morning like brushing your teeth.
    >AHH BUT INFLUENCER SAYS I NEED TO DO IT TWICE A WEEK INJECTING A GRAM EACH TIME INTO MY ASS MUSCLE
    cope. do smaller doses more frequently
    >>
    >>77588039

    Do you know you are posting in the steroid thread?
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    >>77588254
    Alright, cheers for the response bro. Admittedly I've only ever really gone with lateral delt injections myself, and only ever done two quad injections. Outer quad on the vastus lateralis, I'll implement them more often and as you suggest lower dose, more frequent pinning.

    Never bothered with ventro glute however, honestly not sure how to 'properly locate' it. It's a hip shot basically, right? This is all with 1/2" as well? Again cheers for the reply
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    >>77588456
    the cool thing is you can do then in delts too. its just better in all ways to do daily subQ vs once it twice a week. everyone hates quads so maybe incorporate the delts instead of quads into your rotation. Youtube or google “how to self inject IM (muscle group)” and there are dozens of videos by bodybuilders or nurses that show how to pin yourself anywhere
    >>
    >>77588666
    Satanic trips

    Also, people hate quad shots? Why so? I know quite a few people who pin quads, sometimes 4 times a week. In the mid vastus lateralis and the upper (nearer hip). Small volume sure but still!
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    >>77588772
    quads have more veins and nerves in them so its a higher chance of messing it up and being in a lot more pain compared to the glute.
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    >>77588807
    I pin test and tren daily in quads and never hit anything
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    >>77588812
    you lucked out then because most people have at least once hit something in their quads
    >>
    >>77588812
    >>77588818
    >>77588807
    Just curious, coming from someone who's never pinned quads. To those of you who do or have, on average what's your usual ml's you inject in there? And what's the most you're comfortable with doing?
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    >>77586645
    Have you tried messaging them
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    >>77588826
    i injected just a whole syringe worth in the past
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    >>77588826
    SubQ ive done up to 0.67 and got lumpy, but IM i have done 2ml? Big difference between then and now i did it out of ignorance with a 23g 1.5” and it sucked cock but i did it once a week without failure for a few months before finding the light.
    nerves do get hit you just try again or angle around it, veins get hit you just deal with the blood for a bit and itll stop after a few seconds.
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    >>77588092
    Absolutely no guarantee that they will go back to normal + most people who start roiding because they were unhappy with their current physique despite already being in the gym for years choose to stay on T for life after they've seen the benefits.
    >>
    Theyre making the steroid reddit wiki require an account to browse soon. AI gives better info at this point anyways
    >>
    Any tips for mitigating GH bloat? Shit is going to my legs and face and it's really annoying.
    >>
    Do you get PIP right after injection or a day or two after?
    >>
    >>77591345
    Are you doing cardio?

    Actual sweat dripping 150bpm cardio for half an hour+, not the incline walking on a treadmill bullshit?
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    >>77575998
    Golden trinity: Testosterone Cypionate + HGH + Tirzepatide
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    >>77581702
    Tell me more about it, please.
    (never heard anyone using this nigga)
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    >>77572163
    What bf% would you estimate this to be?
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    >>77591967
    11
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    >>77591345
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    New.

    >>77592385
    >>77592385
    >>77592385
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    >>77563443
    >Have they found anything that will increase penis size yet?
    try rubbing DHT cream on your penis, worked for my clit
    >>
    MasTer died. Pancreas. Dont do roids guys.. rip sweet prince. ty for the bants they were amazing
    t. didi
    >>
    >>77593546
    proof?
    >>
    >>77591345
    lower the dose
    >>
    >>77587873
    my lady sells me 10-packs of 5k iu HCG for about 120 each, 10-pack of 10mg reta and 10iu HGH for the same price of $120-150.

    These guys on sourcetalk want nearly 5x that much. some of them charging 100+ just for one vial
    >>
    about to start working @ amazon for holiday should i do a test eq cycle while working mandatory OT?
    >>
    >>77582403
    I was previously on 200 days of 5mg ostarine + hCG with good results, I thought actual injectables would be powerful.
    Sorry, didn't compare DHB's likeness to EQ, just that EQ is more anabolic at 2 EQ: 1 DHB in my experience. Hematocrit was also higher on 210 DHB than 437.5 EQ (with 812mg front-load).
    Blood pressure was bordering on hypotensive while I was running DHB, I think that's the only positive thing about it that I experienced.
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    >>77588826
    Entire 3.25mL.
    Done it several times with l-carnitine also.
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