Old thread got archived (https://owo.vg/fit/thread/77537130/nofap-war-megathread#p77542479)So let's start again
>>77560595how do you get rid of or deal with the wank before bed thoughts
>>77560595I really have to quit fapping. Sex's been reduced to once/twice a week but I am catching myself having to rethink porn plots to remain hard, despite the current gf being the most attractive I've ever been with.Fucking SSRIs, making a woman on SSRIs cum is a workout. For the first time in my life I don't have a comfortable lead on orgasms given to orgasms had. This sucks.
>>77560615chastity cage
I genuinely had to stop at day 45 because I was getting agp thoughts
>>77560595Day 8 I failed See you next week
Day 14, felt a really strong crave for sex, but managed to wear it off by doing chores and walk it off today.
>>77560615You have to introspect until you find out what causes themExamples:>loneliness>Boredom>Nothing good happened today, I can't go to bed until something good happens
2 weeks in, I'm getting aggressive, sexual dreamsA few days ago, a female co-worker gave me a hug, tonight I dreamt I had sex with her in front of a crowd of people
>>77560723You do know you're supposed to have sex on nofap, right?
>>77560595>>77560615>>77560625>>77560652>>77560662>>77560723>>77560743Nofap does nothing ya permavirgins.
>>77560848Maybe you’re low t??When I nofap for two weeks my lifts are stellar and I am good at talking to women. It’s pleasant and fun. If I fap I feel like I am going to die if I talk to a girl. Like red in the face about to autist run away.When I am full of cum it’s smooth and funny mode.
>>77560858Placebo at best, mental illness at worst.
>>77560743She doesn’t like you.If they like you they are spergs around you.
do you guys think its possible to watch porn and not masturbate?
>>77560799check'd. but i'm on nofap for regaining self-control, energy, and calm; i'm telling you, after about 1 week in, i haven't felt sluggish after waking up, and i don't look for excuse to fight strangers, still struggling with self-control but it's getting better; additionally, i desperately need my peace because my job has robbed me of my peace of mind so i am not in the right headspace to meet women, and i don't want to get a hooker because that doesn't fix my core issues; it's just throwing money and myself right into the emptiness that i'm trying to get away from.>>77560893possible, but it's dangerous because once you watch porn, your old habit will make you touch your dick. If you touch your dick, you're gonna jerk; once you jerk, you're fucked either way, because if you cum, your streak ends; you're the same guy with no self-control; if you edge, you mess with your dopamine receptors; you keep your streak, but you're still the same guy with no self-control, kinda like replaying the same Duolingo lesson to keep the streak, and yet you learn absolutely nothing.
>>77560893It's literally less of a problem if you masturbate but don't look at porn instead.
>>77560848I just want to stop watching porn, what's wrong with that
>>77560957cant do my friendi cant even cum when doing actual fucking, very embarassing>>77560954my idea is what if instead of normal porn i just watch shit on /gif/ or on xitter, dont touch my cock at all, like has anybody done this?
>>77560858Maybe you just need to get fucked up the ass before you talk to women
>>77560615Having a fulfilling day that leads to me falling asleep in under 10 minutes when I hit the sack
>>77560995nothing, and good, stop destroying your mind, its self-destruction, a slow suicide, accruing brain damage and mis-wiring your brain every time you relent
>>77561091It's going to be hard again because I relapsed
>>77561035One more reason for you to immediately quit porn
>>77561074>haha anal xddd
>>77560848Nofap works for attractive people. Sorry you had to find out this way.
Reposting this classic https://archive.org/details/youtube-mhqx7yctQVk
so what's the difference between fapping few times a month and never fapping? I know that the whole no fap thing is about not watching porn, but I'm specifically asking about regular fap/cooming to good ol' imagination.
>>77561525Don't know but I'm at that point where there's no difference between fapping to imagination or fapping to porn. Even if it's to imagination, I'll end up visualising porn in my mind. Unless it would eventually fade, but I never tried that
>>77561525Idk, but there are 2 things that are bein mistrained/fucked up. Porn and high novelty, arousal from searching, all that kind f behavior fucks up your ability to be aroused with a real person at a normal irl pace. Dopamine pathway reward system disregulation type thing. Thn the other main thing being fcked up is that you are mechanically becoming accustomes o your own hand, grip, self stimulus, usual environment, etc which is pavlov conditioning arousal to those conditions, instead of to a irl partner.
>>77560595I gave in after a 3mpnth streak. I'm at day 3 now. This time, I'm specifically avoiding porn and not touching myself. Before, I could get away with edging, but that's how I always relapse. I get to a point where I edge a bit, then cum just from thoughts when I stop before I hit the edge. So far, it's been going good. I want to get to a point where I don't get horny at all. I want to be able to say, "I don't jerk off. I don't even watch porn.".
>>77560625Marry her and you will only have to worry about it once a month
>>77561086Whats your idea of a fulfilling day that helps you get to sleep without
Day 3 >>77560743That's the point. Ask her out on a date. If she didn't like you she wouldn't have bothered hugging you. >>77560848It makes me feel less gross about myself and hornier, and so, for me 3/4 women I've been with I initiated relationships with during nofap streaks.>>77560893Yes, I've done it out of boredom/habbit while doing nofap a lot of times. It's also led to a lot of relapses.>>77562041Kek based and boomerpilled
>>77562041I just got out of a five year relationship, right after the engagement. I don't think I'm mentally ready to marry a new person.Although my brain is screaming "marry her, impregnate her" at me every time we meet, so maybe. Not right away, but if everything goes well. Maybe in a couple of years.
>>77562118>>77562085Impregnation and babbys is what leads to the once a month schedule. Might've been different in the before times but after the initial phase of the relationship, all women I've been with more than a few months default to "whenever I have a sexual thought and that's it". My guess its because they all were given birth control after their like 4th cycle because "my cramps were so bad" and boomer moms believe all doctors at all times and boomer dads wanted their little princess to live a normal life free of normal life things like healthy reproduction. I'm 80% confident too that this interferes with many of their olfactory systems and they end up not being disgusted by people they should be
>>77562137Sounds like you're gay, anon.
>>77562192No, if I were Uncle fucked as a kid I don't recall it but also I don't have any special affinity for man ass even though I am on /fit/
Day 15, rough day, urges have got hands.
>>77560662you did good. gl
>>77560595I had a wet dream on day 84 and I don't even remember the dream; I woke up in my splooge
>>77561239fall seven times, stand up eight
>>77560595I'm 35 yr old unc. No gf. Never had gf. Never had a sexual dream. How often do those happen? I fail no fap repeatedly. Usually because I'm anxious af all the time. It's miserable. Y'all got any tips to getting a gf at this age? Fat ugly girls won't even hookup unless I take them out first. This is insane I'd rather fap.
>>77560615Being so exhausted that sleep becomes more appealing than jerking off. That, or melatonin and valerian.
7 yrs in a relationship, sex with gf in past year has been under double digits. fap daily. i've given up. send help...
>>77562521>7 yrs>gfis this normal
>>77562536This is the reason Whites are going extinct. Total lack of seriousness when it comes to dating.Can't blame them. White women are whores that have been fucking and sucking since 14. Who wants to marry that garbage?
>>77562536people live 10+ years without getting marriednot common but also not unusual
fapping is quite important in a relationship to let your innate horniness and dirty thoughts out and to keep enjoying being loyal to your gfthough limiting porn and just using your pent up sexual tension to fap would be probably even wiser
Day 2
day 1
I’m pretty sure porn and masturbation has replaced my drive to try getting a gf and I’m starting to realize this has probably been the case for a long time. I’m 28 and am so blackpilled by the dating scene that I just don’t look for a gf. I ignore women when I walk past them even when they look at me. I’m decent looking and older women at work ask me about my dating life and seem confused when I say I don’t have a gf. Meanwhile I’m just not on the apps and not going on dates. I wonder if stopping porn/masturbation would make a difference and if it’s even worth it. Lately I’ve been feeling like I should stop and try to start dating, but then I kind of just ask myself what I’d even find sifting through dating apps and why even try at all. Feels like I’m just thinking about stopping out of some sort of formality that I’m not even sure if I want. I see how women my age are so captured by mass media they don’t even seem like conscious humans and I ask myself why I’d want to deal with that. I’m so blackpilled by modernity anons. Idk what to do.
what's the longest you've guys gone without masturbating? I did 7 months once and now I'm wondering how the fuck did I do it and struggle to go past 2 weeks
>>77564178>wall of texthere, here is the reason why you don't do sex>>77564213i never did more than 1 month cause only time I managed this long was in my earlier years and I freaked out from not getting hard or flat lining
>>77564178Attend anti-slop anti-brainrot events (libraries, poetry nights, book meetups, anywhere the central ideas are based around intellectual pursuits) meet women in those interest groups, hang out (invite them to do cool things over "setting" a formal date) and let things develop from there.
>>77560595>not touching your dick is a "war"You should be doing nophone, nointernet or even just no4chan if you want to actually improve your life. But you aren't ready for that talk.
>>77564260Neither are you lol
>>77560615I dont even think about it while looking for porn. Mindlessly using my phone at night, I end up browsing the sites. Sometimes I'll look to pages 12 or 13 and just pick something out of boredom.
i saw a pajeet masturbating in his carthen it hit megooning is india coded
>>77560595Im going to do it now
>>77560595starting my journey today bros, was in bed with a smoking hot girl I'd wanted to hook up with for like 2 years and couldn't perform despite being healthy and in my 20s. been watching way more porn and jerking off at least every night for quite a while so have to assume it's something to do with that. wish me luck
Day 0Failed after about 8 daysFUCK. Again we go
>>77560595>NoFapI'm on my 10th month now and I feel no different than when I fapped regularly.I'm still weak and stupid.Instead of wasting my free time gooning to hentai doujin, I'm now wasting it scrolling socials and 4chan.Where's the benefit?
>>77560595Just had a wet dream after 73 days of SR. What the fuck is going on? Do i reset the counter
>>77560732>”you need to pathologize very basic Pavlonian conditioning”Oy vey
>>77565175nofap works if you have a libido and redirect that energy for other pursuits. eunuchs didn't gain super powers. think of it like chakras filling up one by one from the bottom up
I caved in and fucked a fat asian masseuseNow I'm down $200 and feel like shit
Day 17, the raging boner in the morning is a hell of a wake-up call; can't even sleep in now. haven't watched porn today; gonna keep it that way.>>77565554oof, i ve been thinking about getting a hooker, but you just described exactly how I would feel after banging a hooker. I hope you regain some self-control
>>77565362Yes obv, think about sack before you sleep
>>77564213Best I did is a whole month during no nut november. The hardest part is between days 5-10. After that, it's just living with the discomfort of blue balls. I have slightly more energy and colors seem brighter, but that's it.After months of it, did you see any more positive/negative effects?
>>77565554You do know you’re supposed to have sex on nofap, right? It’s kinda the whole point
>>77565175Do you get random boners and wet dreams?To me it sounds like your balls have been on a vacation for about 10 months and that's why you don't feel any different.
Day 18, lifting today, lifting has been steadily progressing, more reps or weight every week, just like how it was back in nofap November last year.
Switched from running/elliptical to biking as the primary cardio, boners are way too hard. It's becoming a problem. Like I'm afraid the skin on it will split like a stretchmark problem.
>>77560954Based fren. Wagmi
>>77565740Yeah, but sex with hot zoomettes who are into it, not paid sex with hookers
>>77564065day 3 and I had leg day todayit is gonna be ROUGH but I made a deal with god that if I last 7 days without he would give me my bitch ex back so I am trying.
Day 4 failed againI was pretty weak willed todayI must regain my motivation
16 days, cravings were strong today
Hour zero. I turn 28 tomorrow. I'm too old for this shit. Going for the hero run. WAGMI
>>77565740>ree normies etc.. etc...You know the whole point of nofap is for depressed nogf chuds to stop using porn as cope and channel sexual energy and frustration into getting one right? What's even the point of nofap if you regularily have sex, it's as if you were a millionaire and larping as a normie wagie because you think it makes you virtuous or some shit.
Day 19, no raging morning wood in the morning for the past 2 days.more energy in the afternoon, feeling less sluggish after my power nap. got a few blue trophies on Fitnotes last night.>>77567242thx fren. WAGMI.
>>77568887so close, lemme get that quints
>>77568888Checked
>>77568888omedetou anon
>>77567540she messaged me after 3 months why does talking to god work
>>77568903>>77568922arigato gozaimasu anon
>>77568972thats not Gods doing anon...
day 5, waking up hard and thinking about sex sex sex sex>>77570321you think its satan? I guess time will tell, we have a date next week
>>77570968>gets ghosted for 3 months while she's been ravaged in every hole by someone else>thinks it's God's work when she gets in touch again still reeking of cum after getting pumped and dumpedAnon, I...
>>77567540>>77568972Why do you want your stupid ex back? Why be a SIMP when you can just find another one?You do realize that there are literally like 3 BILLION women in this planet, right?This kind of scarcity mindset is probably why she left you in the first place.
Day 20, almost a month now. many things have happend, i hope i am a better person now and will continue to get better, just like every brother who is going through this journey does. WAGMI, and i really want to believe we are gonna make it.>>77571006that screencap is phenomenal; thanks for sharing, anon.
>>77571054You're welcome, my fren. I've been honing my misogyny for over a decade. I got plenty of caps like that to share.
>>77562078Waking up at a reasonable time, putting in deep focus work towards my career, playing guitar, going to the gym, maybe hanging out, then going home cooking a good meal, playing Vidya for an hour, locking my phone up and going to bed and reading for an hour before sleep.
>>77571006pff, more like a literal of 5 women if your target is: white, not fat, smart, young and single. half of them is crazy, she is in that half too>>77570985despite all that I still love her. but jokes aside I had my fair share of issues, she did wonders for me, also ruined me. such is the BPD carousel. >>77562463>I fail no fap repeatedly. Usually because I'm anxious af all the timesounds like me, try going to therapist. not like that is gonna make any miracles but working on it, the only way is up
are any of you painfully socially awkward to the point where people don't invite you anywhere? I'm just trying to figure out what exactly is wrong with me. Idk.
>>77571245Oh also btw, to keep this thread specific, everything I jack off now I get a horrible head ache before I even cum. It started when I was lifting 2 weeks ago doing weighed pull ups. Now anytime I lift of jack off, I get a headache in the same part of my brain. I got an MRI and the doctor said there wasn't anything he noticed, and believed it to be a muscle strain in my neck and advised I don't exercise for 2 weeks, while completely glossing over the fact that is happens during sexual activity too. I'm going to try to get an MRA today which is apparently more specific to blood vessels in the brain. I hope I don't die. Shit would be gay. I've made so much progress and girls are actually fucking me because my muscles despite my personality.
>>77571217>if your target is: white, not fat, smart, young and singleWhy would you want your woman to be smart? All women are 10 year old children in an adult's body. Intelligent women do not exist. Stop chasing fairies and unicorns.>muh BDPBDP isn't real. It's a fake disease invented to justify women's shitty behavior. "BPD" just means she doesn't respect you and will treat you like shit because she can. That's all there is to it.There are no women with "BPD" in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia because they get beatings if they disrespect their man.Whenever you or any other guy complains about "BPD" you're just self-reporting that you're a bitch.
>>77568888checked
Okay, I can try again.Pretty sure the cope is if you cycle "retention" for three months it does the same as an average anabolic steroid cycle.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rekn1cJwZlc
>>77571289>Intelligent women do not existThat's where you're wrong and that's why you'll be pwned by a woman eventually.Women may be unable to hold themselves accountable, to think beyond their own solypsistic feelings, and to remain faithful to convictions despite a change in circumstances.None of that makes them "not smart".Women will know exactly what to say and when to cry to dodge accountability and have people praising them for it.Women will create very complex and convincing explanations as to why their feelings are correct despite being contradicted by facts.Women will twist arguments and sound very convincing when explaining why they're correct in switching convictions, and while they're objectively wrong, it takes a high level of intelligence to refute their points, and usually by that time they've already gained public sympathy to the point even a good refutation will fall on deaf ears.Women are extremely cunning creatures, and the downfall of men is to both assume they're honorable (they're not) and they're dumb (they're not either).
>>77571620Women are only capable of being what men let them be. Any nation ruled by women or foreigners is cursed by God.
>>77571625You think a chimp is retarded because it can't win an argument against you? Women can be very intelligent, retard, at least more intelligent than you are. Shut your midwit ass up
I want to fap to twinks so much bros.
>>77571620None of that shit matters. None of these female manipulation tactics work if you have power.You're not supposed to argue and negotiate with women AT ALL. You tell them how things are going to be if they want to remain with you, and they either take it or leave it.The fact that you think having arguments or being logical with women is normal is you once again self-reporting that you're a bitch.>*woman says something intentionally stupid to bait you into an argument*>"yeah, I don't believe that, that's bullshit">"why?">"I just think that's bullshit" [refuse to explain yourself or argue]>end of the storyWhen your boss or manager at your job tells you how things are to be done, do you argue with him?
>>77571642>Comparing me to an animal.Go take your faggot simp "The Science" ass down the road. Try Texas or LA. Women are only capable of being what men allow them to be. They are cheerleaders and keepers of the home. Are you one of those queers who got ass blasted cause Darwin natural selection "evolution" got blown the fuck out of the water by math?
>>77560848>Nofap does nothing ya permavirgins.it keeps your hormones highs. ie raises your base line. if that's nothing then oh, well.t. 35 virgin who can do nofap pretty easily. and yes i do get my testosterone tested and they are pretty good.
>>77560995If it makes you feel better, go for it. However since you're probably neurotic, religious, and blueballed - like most people that blame porn for their mental health - quitting porn won't make you more fuckable, and if you stop you'll find something else to beat yourself up over.
>>77571289>Why would you want your woman to be smart?cause I wanna have babies with her someday. it really is that simple. man rights activist seems to only focus on gettin' laid, that shit is temporary, having a happy family is eternal.
0 (Im starting today wish me luck anons)
>>77571793LOL YOURE A WIZARD (thats cool asf, Ill be one too)I've noticed that my strength and muscle recovery improves when I "retain my seed"
>>77571833CUNT FAGGOT
fapping absolutely does do something. I think the worst part is a prolactin response. I even had gyno as a teen from wanking it 10x daily to cope with stress. bad genes, lack of exercise must have also played a role, can't dispute that but if you look into the science there are hardly any representative experiments for obsessive masturbation. normies can't comprehend the intensity with which anxious males do it. anyways after gyno surgery I did a lifestyle intervention. my T sometimes hit the upper ranges and my E2 is about to be too low (which isn't great apparently but I used to have the opposite problem). you can do a lot with lifestyle, what percentage is not cranking it, exercise and socialization I couldn't tell you, noone does accurate science on that topic. all medical research is geared towards keeping old corposes and women alive.
>>77571731>None of these female manipulation tactics work if you have powernarcissistic way of thinking. I can't be expected to be a CEO and ripped all the time, that shit just doesn't work. if you build your relationship around being da based alpha guess what happens if a accident happens? that must be so tiring. believe it or not people get emotionally addicted. my dad for example, perma unemployed, psychotic etc, my mom never thinks of leaving him despite now even me telling her to do it. also, these generalizations aren't healthy, they are based on the general population of which I don't consider myself to be a part off. yeah maybe if you have a peasant mindset (as most people do) you should beat/gaslight/manipulate your foid, maybe that works? I wouldn't know I am not like most people, I don't expect my partner to be like most people either.
>>77572145>my partnerFFAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHAHAHAHAHAHHA
The one time in my life I managed to go over two weeks of NoFap and was having sex with my girlfriend every single day. She ended up pregnant. Ever since then I haven't been able to make it past 3 days out of fear of getting her pregnant again. I need to figure out some way to get over this because I feel bad about locking my door and trying to fap then having my kid always knocking on the door wanting me to play or something while I'm trying to fap or look at porn during the day or at night. I always get asked what I'm doing and I feel bad about lying. I also feel bad about not fapping at the same time because if I go even a few days and my girlfriend doesn't regularly have sex with me which hasn't happened since we had a kid. I keep thinking about fucking her sisters and cheating on her with the black woman who for whatever reason likes to twerk when I'm outside taking the trash out.
>>77573105can't you just have daily sex again with your wife?
>>77573109Believe me, I try all the time. I've even sat down with her and told her how bad I want to quit porn and I'd rather just only look at her body. She just claims she doesn't really have a sex drive anymore and always doesn't feel good. I believe she's going through menopause and has been since she had our kid. We had a kid a bit later than most in our 30s. I'm getting ready to turn 40 and my sex drive has only increased with age as hers is almost nonexistent. Oddly enough my sex drive is higher now than what it was when I was a teenager and in my early 20s. I hate to admit it but I've been feeling like cheating on her might be the only way to salvage our relationship at this point. We used to fight really bad for a few years and up until more recently. I just gave up with fighting with her and just go into my room to masturbate. We have separate rooms but we do still sleep in the same bed. I just use the spare room for my computer/office setup. She just doesn't care about being physical with me anymore. Even when we do have sex it's almost as if I'm living the plapjak meme. She bends over and just wants me to get it over with. She has put on weight since having a kid and seems to hate being a mom. I try to get her to go for walks with me or do any kind of exercise but she isn't interested. Claims she's always tired from working. She even quickly covers herself up after we have sex and only gets undressed right before. She isn't even interested in foreplay. It's fucking pathetic.
>>77573139> I hate to admit it but I've been feeling like cheating on her might be the only way to salvage our relationship at this point.nah that just sounds like coomer delusions.>@ the restthat sounds rough af. I would still advise against it, the consequences could be major. maybe there is some other reason why your wife appears to be a lazy sack of shit, like some sort of a depression? shit can be worked out. when I was in a bad place in my relationship (and ended up ruining it), looking back it what would have helped was just visiting a therapist that would calm me down from my doomer mindset loop. shit doesn't even cost that much and 2 hours alone can give u the vent space to turn shit around.
>>77573105>>77573139I noticed in past relationships with women that when the sex starts to go away for me is when women become fat and feminist. I just break it off and leave. Brutal how there is a kid involved. I highly recommend to stop with the porn though, that stuff will suck your life force in general. Stopping porn has and still is one of the hardest things I have ever done.
>>77573203>maybe there is some other reason why your wife appears to be a lazy sack of shit, like some sort of a depression?We don't have any external support with our kid. All of our other family have already died out including both of my parents and hers. That's been the hardest part with all of us along with both of us trying to work to make it. I've recommended her go to see a therapist as I was involved in therapy up until last year around this time trying to deal with things after losing my mom which I have finally come to the acceptance phase involving losing her.>>77573210>when women become fat and feministShe's not exactly into feminism but she has a problem with doomscrolling TikTok and Shitbook for sure. Sad thing is I had a way out just a few months before she got pregnant which would have benefited me to no ends. I could have roomed with a friend of mine who inherited a house after his mom died. I do love my kid but it's definitely the hardest thing to do as a person is to be a parent without a doubt. From the time my kid was born to three years old they were solely my responsibility. I had to watch them by myself for 12-14 hours a day while trying to also work remotely which was insanely hard. Then ended up in a shit situation for another year after that due to all of the financial responsbility falling on me after my relationship was falling apart. She had lost her job and just sat around eating junk food and being a piece of shit. I even sold all of my retro vidya to support us and help us move somewhere more affordable. I may not be as /fit/ as most on here but I'm not overweight and have kept myself in fairly decent shape. I can still run and keep up with my kid when playing. The energy element has been rough over the last few months as now I don't really get a lot of sleep and inflation has absolutely been wrecking me. My work rate has been cut in half and my pay has been garbage. I've even been cutting meals so my kid doesn't go hungry.
>>77571731>None of that shit matters>w-what d-do you mean b-by "white knights"?A fuckton of said white knights carry badges and guns, and they themselves are goons to white knights wearing black and wielding tiny wooden hammers, and so on.>None of these female manipulation tactics worksThey may not work on you but they work on the goons who are collectively more powerful than you.
>>77573139As someone who was once married and went through the exact same.Cheat. Im dead serious. She won’t leave and will only want u more.I made the mistake of not cheating and she still divorced me and I’m paying child support. I regret not cheating.My friend that cheats, his wife only wants him more, it’s crazy
Does stroking your cock in the morning count as failing? If not: day 6, I thought the urges were strong but now they are absurd. I do however think that is the peak of it.
>when you resist for 2 weeks but then finally cave and goon so much your balls are completely empty and you look that drooling guy in the meme and you feel like a retard for a few days
>>775738922 weeks is massive, just a matter on what made u give up, how disgusting it was and how you feel about it. imo pushing those month+ nofaps is too much
after much consideration I've decided to become a shaolin monk.
Day 22, I've been thinking about getting a gf lately. I tried my cousin's church group and her church, didn't find any girls that I like, and I didn't like the pastor or their emotional manipulation, nor did I like my cousin trying to convert me to boost her street cred at the church. don't really wanna use dating apps either.
>>77574166>thinking about getting a gf latelyyou gotta do more, less think. "thinking" is a fake cope strat, it is gonna take longer than you think it should but I eventually found fine but I had to go out n shit. telling it like it is here because I've been "THINKING" prior to that for a looong time. do it like you mean it or stop thinking about it at all
There was a good 'book' that used to get posted in /sig/ that dealt with no fap (think it followed similar rules to the alan carr quit smoking book) does anyone know what I'm talking about? pretty sure it had its own dedicated website.
>>77574215E.Z.P.Z method. I think you used to get banned for promoting it idk why
why is 4chan filled to the brim with gooners except for here?
>>77574229its because of gooners hating on it
>>77574237well its a selection effect, people who post her are like anti-social social website are also frequent masturbators. its a entire psychology complex. just my pet theory tho
>>77574229That's the one - cheers fella
I don't get porn addiction, for me fapping is the bigger issue.1. I feel loneny and like a miserable faggot -> I need to self soothe -> fap2. I get a erection / something happens to trigger my urges -> fapin both of those porn is like an ends to a mean, can sometimes do without it.
Have gone complete cold turkey. No fap, no porn. It's been about 3-4 weeks now, I forgot when I actually started.Hoping to reset my dopamine expectations. So far not struggled too much, but starting to have a thought about it, but resistd. Think I got a semi the other day for the first time in ages, mostly morning wood though.Worried about prostate health though, any tips?
>>77560595On day ten or eleven I think. Going until the end of the month because years ago I found myself getting urinary incontinence after two weeks abstaining, and I recently had a chatbot tell me that was not normal. So I'm redoing it to see if its something I should go to the doctor about, or whether it must have solved itself over time.
>>77564065lost it yesterday, day 6, prior to going to bed.. going again.
>>77574777check'd.
I managed to get myself busy from day 1-4 and I went hunting in the woods with my family. Being surround by people all the time + the physical exhaustion of walking for 12 hours straight really helped me stretch through out the worst days (5-7). I'm on day 9 right now and I did not expect to go that far in such an easy way.
>>77560595>decide that you are not a wankerit's that simple bros
Day 23, new bullshit happened at work and totally obliterated my sleeping schedule, appetite, and lust. thanks to the self-control that nofap gives me, I've been successfully holding my tongue and not talking shit at work that may cost me my career.
21 days, 3 weeks, feeling way less depressed, keep going guys, it gets better
I will give it a go again.>>77575500>>77575718You got this anons.
5 hrs in. I'm going to fucking explode. I need to close all of the tabs with lewd images in them. Please don't tempt me aaaaggggghhhhh
>>77560595Why do I always relapse the day after drinking?
>>77576491you aren't going to explode. you aren't as horny as you think you are. you are bored. you are bored in front of your computer, a place your brain has designated as "here we can get quick cheap dopamine" which is what sends the happy signals to your brain to watch pornyou are not horny, you're just bored. go outside, literally
I feel like I was a lot more sane when id just do 2-3week streaks instead of now doing 2-3+ month streaks. The anger is the hard thing to deal with. Working out is not enough of an outlet for me
>>77576516>you are not hornyof course doing something helps but im 100% sure that I do sponatiously get horny, all the time. i can also just jerk off to memories.
>>77560595Day 16. Went for 12 days before. Imo if you have a long streak and accidentally break there is still some benefit. Not a total reset.
Day 24, one bullshit after another at work. I think I might used up all my good luck on rollin dubs, and quads.>>77575931thx fren.
Hello friends. Lovely thread. Day 0 here. My longest streak is 2 weeks. That was a long time ago. I miss the energy, confidence and peace of mind. I also have a slight feeling of hypocrisy and guilt in the back of my mind that I must stop. I feel like I only can ascend to planes of higher thinking, belief and become a good person until then. The ultimate challenge and battle.God bless you all.
>>77576940Your intuition is right anon, lust is a form of greed, do not let the beast win
>>77576496Same brotha. My theory is that alcohol fucks with your sleep and you're not reaching proper depth of recovery, which makes you wake up in the morning with high cortisol. Then comes jerking off as a solution, because it lowers cortisol fairly easy.I swear, jorking my shit 1-2 times during hangover cures like 75% of it.
>>77574777Bumping for an answer here. What's a reasonable amount of fap to do after I complete a full reset with 2-3 months no fap?
>>77560595Had a wet dreams two days ago and in the shower i just rubbed one out ...But why... it wasnt worth it... someday i will escape this coomer brain
I don't count the days but it must've been just under a month. I have a date with a girl in an hour so I'm hoping she's the one. She's socially awkward and it's painfully clear I'm the only guy she talked to seriously. Hopefully her social awkwardness isn't terminal.
>>77560893Sure but why would you do that? Thats like getting hungry and looking at pictures of food to feel satiated. Just beat off without porn. Its pretty easy.
>>77562536Yeah, i know of an older couple who were engaged for 20+ years before marrying.
Day 26, I'm feeling more in control of my lust and emotions. additionally, my body is now more sensitive to caffeine; even drinking half a can of monster in the morning can keep me up at night.
>nofap obsessionEasiest way to out the weirdo. You freaks quite literally need Jesus
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>>77579197Jesus what a disturbing gif
>>77579124:D
Going to bed is easy, it's the morning fap that is hard to skip.
>>77560625exact opposite for megf is on ssris and I've never had a better sexual partnershe cums within a few minutes and is horny all day longwe smoked weed last weekend and fucked 7xthe weed dried her out, so it was hard to fuck but we were so high and in love, that we still did itwe were both bleeding from ripped skin by the end of itshit was so cash
>>77562543meall other women are boringmet this German athlete with two finished degreessuper hot athletic body, no makeup and looks fantastic at 27I'm 35finally a woman with a brainnon dogmaticactually smartloves sexsry but i prefer that over some village girl who can't even swim
>>77580307YeahFor me the most tempting is the morning wood, especially latelyI've started having really hot and intense dreams with this Russian girl who works in our office, she must be 190cm, as she's taller than me, I'm 187cmshe has a perfect slender body, hourglass with super wide hips. I've never seen anything similar neither in porn nor moviesshe's the most perfect being i have ever witnessed, like a lab project, her face toosuch a beautyI dream of her dominating me and somehow I end up on my belly rubbing with my mattress during my sleep and i wake up almost ready to cumit's crazy
>hitting 28 days straight in 15 minutesdoing okay. kind of crazy how long you can go if you understand the depression/boredom motivations for fapping. if I am at all depressed, I avoid situations where beating off is likely. I hide all thumbnails by default on 4chan, don't follow anyone hot on social media, and generally guard my eyes from anything lewd online or irl.longest I've gone this year was 72 days. second longest after that was 56. the cause for me is never being horny, but always either being depressed or letting myself see too many things that can trigger me. what's funny is I have developed some sort of psychic block against having a wet dream. I think I had a total of one this whole year, early into that 72d streak. like I know in my head that wet dreams feel really nice. so, whenever a dream becomes a situation where it can be sexual, I half-lucidly make it outright sexual, and then wake myself up on accident. like I've literally woken up humping my bed in the past couple months. what's also funny is that I used to keep a dream journal, and stopped when I realized like all of my dreams that I can jot down are all sexual. wonder what that's all about.
Can anyone answer this simple question:What real world benefits has anyone seen from nofap?Note, if your reply sounds like a mid 30's mother of 7 cats talking about how her recently amazon shipped sugeknight stone realllllllly helped pull impurities out of her skin and made her glow then you'll be ignored.
>>77580403your entire being, physical and mental is screaming that you should have sexbut you're brainwashed into thinking rape is bad
I can't do nofap for too long, I start to see women as my sexual outlet and feel bad.
>>77580422rape is bad though, do goyim really?
Found a new way to cum without orgasm.>Stand in shower>Cause a steady stream of water to hit your frenulum>Press on your taint repeatedly to massage your prostate>Watch the cum ooze out
>>77580413I'm more focused and my attention span lengthens, which I've heard is related to a leveling out of dopamine levels. Avoiding scrolling, junk food, and other artificial dopamine spiking activities helps a lot with this too by reconditioning the brain away from constant novelty and pleasure seeking.
>>77581175We've had the same hands to jack off with for a million yearsYet only phones for 10-15 yearsYou quit "scrolling" and noticed attention increase, but also think that nofap played a part - seems more likely the phone was the problem, not jacking off.
>>77580307Facts. You start the day off already in the red: with a hard on, in bed with your phone next to you.
>>77581237Yeah, but my masturbation was often with porn, thus also following the cell phone issue. Perhaps technically separate issues but for me, I've tried eliminating each one at a time with inconclusive personal results, but eliminating both has yielded pretty consistent focus increases for me. The focus benefit has happened when I didn't stop the other stuff as well, I'm just brining it up that it is a benefit that multiple things can also improve in conjunction when I'm not being a lustful gluttonous sloth.Some dudebros say that abstaining increases testosterone, and fapping decreases it, and a symptom of low test is mental fog, so if you are in perma fog and eliminate it might seem like a focus benefit but I haven't bothered to really research wether those studies seem legit. I'm happy with my own experiences as evidence of the benefits.
Day 28
>>77572145Having power in a relationship has nothing to do with being a "ripped CEO" or any of the other dumb BS you said.Having power in a relationship comes from dozens of little behaviors like being the more competent one, taking decisions without asking for permission, not acting like a needy and submissive bitch, keeping your options open so she doesn't take you for granted, dressing better and taking care of your looks so other girls notice you and she knows it, not being an ass-kisser, etc.All of these things are not larping as "da based alpha", but are actually basic adult man behaviors.If you get treated like shit it's because you tolerate it because you don't have self-respect nor know how to create more dating options. You're once again self-reporting how much of a bitch you are.>>77573563>da government won't let me be a man!!>da government will arrest me if I say no to my precious princess!!!What a faggot, holy shit.
>start going to the office>gym in the mornings, get up at 6>no energy or time after work for gooning>dates on Monday and Friday, ending with sex both in the evening and in the morning the next dayHaven't jerked off in weeks. Ultimate hack, turns out, is sex and routine.
>>77560595I've been doing nofap since 2020 for religious reasons and have not lapsed. Temptations never quite go away, but they become easier to ignore/divert into useful energy.
>>77560595I don't even remember when the last time I fapped, has to be over 2 month ago. I can go between 2 weeks or some month before fapping but shit, now I am 2 month + and yeah, don't look at porn and keep busy.But it works to not look at hot women. lol
>>77583565This is a man's butt. Female buts are wider and saggier.
not fap related at all but tangentially relatedany bros got advice or thoughts on quitting the internet?I've come to realize after 15 years of being permanently online that it's largely responsible for my lack of social skill and personal developmentnot the internet itself but rather my compulsive choosing of it over doing literally anything else when given the opportunitynot sure how to actually quit though, I can barely be fucked to play video games anymore because mindlessly scrolling and watching snippets is easier
>>77583818your critical thinking skills are lacking, thanks for trying though
Hey /fit/, I relapsed on meth and stimfapped for 12+ hours. How does one beat this addiction?
>Can anyone answer this simple question:>What real world benefits has anyone seen from nofap?>Note, if your reply sounds like a mid 30's mother of 7 cats talking about how her recently amazon shipped sugeknight stone realllllllly helped pull impurities out of her skin and made her glow then you'll be ignored.
i've been a porn addict for decades and only finally giving noporn an actual go at the start of this year. haven't looked at porn since jan 1st so this is the longest i've ever gone in my life. i've been trying nofap on and off as well since i had unhealthy masturbation habits. i got a gf recently and still find myself suffering from ED - i get hard sometimes during the day, morning wood every morning but still cannot get it up from physical contact. shit sucks. I wonder if i'm just permanently broken and cannot repair that link from my brain to my dick
>>77584757Progress is relative, slow, and cyclical, moving in waves rather than a straight line or from error to truth, instead advancing from lower to higher truths. Keep it up sir. The Christian no fap organizations say it takes 3 years to make a full recovery.
even if i quit masturbating i havent interacted with a girl younger than sixty in a year so it's not like theres a real point to itall it is is a distraction from my boring useless life and time and money consuming hobbies that dont make me happy anymore anywaynofap won't give me a reason to truly live
>>77572121lmfao hit too close to home huh?
>>77560595Pathetic beyond belief.
>>77583749I consider this often as well and you know what. I'll give it a shot. After this comment I will delete the browsers on my phone. If I need to make an appointment or buy something online that is not already part of an app I have, or i need to make an appointment online, I shall do it through my laptop that I rarely use anyways. Wish me luck. Hopefully I never come back to this god forsaken website and never fail to porn again inshallah.
>>77583749>>77585026You'll be back, and it won't be willpower related, it'll be your "choice".Like jerking off, these are established habits you've engaged in for years, you won't cold turkey and change overnight.You have to taper.
>>77583749I did this a couple years ago. Its easy as long as it's not winter, but the trick is you have to leave home a few hours after waking up everyday. If you have no school or job, give yourself assignments to explore and interact with people when you're out. Basically make a game out of it. When you get home, have the rule to turn off all devices at 10pm. Also helps if you make an imaginary friend to encourage and/or keep you company.I made it like 3 months until I caught corona and had to tell my imaginary friends to fuck off for a week while I recovered, but then I relapsed back to internet and porn and they never came back
>>77586059Oh wait it was devices off after ~10:30pm. Basically you're still allowed to watch the local news but that's about it. No internet allowed except for navigation and i guess to stream music/podcasts. I mean I don't stream my music but if that's your main way to access it, I guess that's allowed
I think my brain is cooked. I'm currently at Day 17 and I keep dreaming about porn. I am not the protagonist of sex dreams, I only dream about videos.
>>77584757>i get hard sometimes during the day, morning wood every morning but still cannot get it up from physical contact. shit sucks. I wonder if i'm just permanently broken and cannot repair that link from my brain to my dickJust relax, sure you cum fast as fuck but you get hard after. Play with her pussy and tits while you "recharge"That is if you are really attracted to her that is. There ain't something called ED, just ugly women
What exactly is the point of all this? I look at this thread and I see a bunch of guys who’ve turned their daily existence into an exercise in masochism. What benefit is nofap supposed to confer that makes it all worth it?
>>77587376They dont know anon. I have asked too and I usually get something along the lines of having control but at the same time not realizing this entire meme controls their lives and how they feel. Its honestly for people who don't want to take action and hope that doing nothing changes something. Its very strange.
>>77586821>I am not the protagonist of sex dreams, I only dream about videos.It will only get better with time, i was dreaming that i had a hot woman in front of me and i was shy enough to not fuck her, it will get better
How do you guys deal with blue balls?
Day 1 of nofap, trying to start NNN a bit early. How long am I suppposed to last as a KHHV?
>>77588023The problem of fapping is usually a symptom of a bigger problem: too much free time and lack of direction in life.If you have very ambitious goals or a life mission that requires you to work all waking hours, the problem kind of resolves itself.Picture very much related. You'll often see that fapping is also accompanied by the other bad habits in the diagram.Instead of thinking about not fapping, the best strategy is to find something to do.
>>77588100How much time do you think people spend jacking off exactly? The absolute best way to reduce masturbation would be to spend 100% of your time around friends, family, and coworkers, and even then you could always sneak away to the bathroom for 5-10 minutes.
>>77588138Anon, Im a grown ass man. I jack off in my living room... as long as the cat's not around. Don't like her watching
>>77588100Not being some 3% striver fag isn't the reason people are jerkoffs, it's because it's an easily accessible surrogate that satisfies our most basic instinct.
>>77560615Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me a sinner. Repeat until the thoughts have passed
>>77588396base instinct*
>>77588138>How much time do you think people spend jacking off exactly?several hours. we used to call it edging but the kids call it gooning. >>77588100 is completely correct, though writing down "i want a 6 pack and gf" like le self help book says isn't going to fix your problems. but it is true porn addiction has comorbidity with depression and you're actually jacking off for reasons NOT related to being horny.
Every time you jerk off a jew is laughing and rubbing his hands at you for being a dumb goy.
>>77588100Go to the gym instead.
>>77560652AGAMP, you're just a homo
>>77589774They themselves aren't abstainers, they engage in degeneracy too and see nothing wrong with it, this goes for a lot of the things they push for.They think you're a dumb goy by default, but they're making you "better".
>>77588100I make ero-doujin for living.I get off to my own sexual fantasy.The more I fap during my brainstorming session, the wilder my ideas I can put on paper.
