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    Tourist here,
    I am not much for fashion, but there' a thing that has always mystified me. Why is it that fedoras used to be so common, and many men wearing them looked striking, yet elegant and respectable wearing them, yet they have become synonymous with ugly nerds. I looked for pictures of modern men trying to pull the look off, yet I couldn't find a single one, pictures ranged from the aforementioned cringey nerds, to even otherwise handsome men who still couldn't pull the look off.
    What gives? Is there some supernatural curse involved, or you can still make it work, and if so, what do you need to do?
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    >>18786388
    Fedoras and similar hats got progressively phased out as men's jobs required them to spend more time indoors and cars becoming ubiquitous. So about the early to mid 60's they were mostly abandoned.
    In the early days of classic internet, a bunch of ugly shutin losers brought back fedoras as a sign of class (or so they preyended) and theonce staple of menswear became associated to cringy nerds, perhaps forever.
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    >>18786388
    >>18786408

    The stereotype of the cringey nerd hat rests on two things

    1. The cheapest possible hat bought off of aliexpress or similar for 10$ - think Doug tier stuff

    2. The fedora on the nerd has to be paired with sweatpants and t shirt not and not styled in a particularly decent way.


    They wanted to epitomize class without saving up to buy any cool pieces nor pairing what they have in a way that looks good.
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    >>18786408
    >>18786410
    They look horrific because the people wearing them all looked horrific- an accessory can't save you if you already look like you let yourself go and put no effort in otherwise. Also reminder almost none of the nerds wore fedoras and instead wore the trilby, which were mostly popular in the 60's when hats finally died out. Calling them the same thing is like saying a homburg and a fedora are the same

    >>18786388
    I think a lot of modern fedoras miss the mark just in the way they look. Modern styles are just not the same, the crown is a lot lower and most of them are blocked with the teardrop shape instead of being formed by the wearer like one used to do. This made the hat look like it was owned and lived in instead of just bought and thrown on. Also the wide brim really works best with a structured suit jacket or an overcoat, which is hard enough to find people in.
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    >>18786410
    >>18786415
    It's all contextual. As previously stated, they got phased out so no one wears them any more. Bas as attractive as a model, pay as much as you want for the most bespoke hat or pair it with the correct clothing but you'll still look contextually out of place in the modern environment.
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    >>18786388
    hard to wear in cars, and went away with the suit, though the suit held out for another decade or two. whenever someone asks what hat to wear with a suit today there's never a good answer, the two go hand in hand.

    beanies are more functional headwear for the winter, and straw hats are better for the summer. the felt fedora just doesn't have a place anymore like the double breasted suit, which was a suit you'd button up in the morning and wear all day buttoned up until you go to bed. if men wear a suit now, it's just for a few hours, so they're all single breasted now.
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    >>18786388
    >to even otherwise handsome men who still couldn't pull the look off

    The menswear enthusiasts usually looks performative and more like a costume, like the Pitti Uomo circus.
    The hat doesn't go with the modern clothes or look too big.
    Men doesn't look as masculine and rugged as before.

    I think Johnny Depp is a modern example that makes it work because he actually wears them and if you look at the images he's particular about the creases, pinches and the angle, very sprezzatura. His outfit looks nonchalantly thrown together, but he has obviously spent a lot of time perfecting the look.
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    >>18786647
    still looks performative even on him. felt hats are for cold weather, and he's wearing a shirt without a jacket, so is he dressing for warm weather or cold weather? if you can't tell that by looking, it's performative.
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    >>18786408
    I knew one of those in College in the early 2000s.
    Dude wouldnt shower for days and would show up in a stained black band t shirt with black jeans and think the fedora made him classy looking. I swear the guy was mildly retarded.
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    >>18786687
    you dont know what that word means
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    >>18786737
    it seems you don't. his fedora serves no purpose, it's clearly not cold weather, it's performative
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    >>18786739
    Now you're just autistic.
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    >>18786647
    >>18786388
    This is going to be a highly pseud take, but a lot of fashion advice boils down to combining soft (curved) with hard (angular) features. Hell even the word 'gentleman' means someone who is masculine, but kind and well-meaning.

    Hats, like round glasses are oval, and thus soften up your features. Which is where the issue comes from. Most men today are fat fucks, and low T, maybe with the exception of criminals and tradies. Men used to look highly masculine, and that's why it was desirable for men wanting to look respectable and friendly to dress like this.

    Mr. Depp and most celebrities are obviously not even close to average, as you can see he has a very well defined jawline, which he accentuates with his beard, then softens up his look with the hat, and round glasses.
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    >>18787146
    >combining soft (curved) with hard (angular) features
    Based take actually, you've got the right idea
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    >>18787146
    what kind of hat would you suggest for the modern low-t microplastic nu-male? something angular to make our faces less round?
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    >>18787225
    Whoopie cap
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    >>18786495
    >straw hats are better for the summer.
    Outdoor workers and hikers went in for more purpose built designs like the bucket hat/boonie hat and hybrid baseball cap with the extra fabric attached to the back to shade the neck.
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    the neck beard hat is actually a trilby.

    and it doesn't look good when worn by a pubescent teenager in tshirt
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    >>18786408
    >men's jobs required them to spend more time indoors
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