Red Wing Making That Faggot Seethe EditionWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bick4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.>Are Thursdays any good?no.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far east>BlkbrdPrevious >>18779496
>>18784738they posted the one non rocking horse pair
Just boughted my second pair of Paraboots
>>18784738clown boots
>>18784762Which ones?
>>18784728I am looking for an 8 inch, natural, veg tan boot. Are there any options right now that aren’t chink or indog makers?
>>18784777First I bought the Avoriaz in "bark" brown to handle autumn, winter and spring. Liked them so much that I now bought the Michael in black to handle spring, summer and autumn. They both work perfectly in my climate and wardrobe.
>>18784728Enjoy your ©MURRICAN© clown shoes bro
>mfw i fell for the iron ranger meme
>>18784852
Thinking about picking up these. I love a good moc toe.
>>18784728>>18784793>>18784852>>18784853>Red Wing Making That Faggot Seethe EditionI am such faggot-seething, goddamn!
Structured or unstructured toes. Which way /btg/?
>>18784897always structured
>>18784793Those are at least two sizes too big.
>>18784897toelessfeel the breeze
What loafers would you get if you had a $1k budget?
>>18785021none.
>>18785024fuck off
>>18785025but i dont like loafers
>>18785021Which ones would you get?
>>18784728Just ordered a pair of these. Will it looks goofy on a regular city dude who wears glasses
Have any of you gotten your woman hooked on nice men's boots? My wife has a hard time finding comfortable, high quality footwear, especially because she has wide feet and high insteps (she's between a men's D and E on brannock). I ordered her a pair of Alden Indy 405s because I think it would be cute to match my 403s. Looking for any insights on how to shop for men's shoes for her that she can style in a feminine way (aligning with her usual aesthetic)
>>18785061yes
>>18784903>he enjoys celastic shit
>>18785021Bemer, Meccariello or Bonafè
>>18785071>she has wide feet and high instepsPost pics so we can better advise you
Anyone drop the cash on a pair of Nick’s handmade boots? Wondering if $600 bucks is really worth it for a pair of boots that should last decades.
>>18785169I would get Whites out of principle instead of N*cks
I’m thinking of getting this as my first boot. Thoughts? I just want something I can dress up or down fairly easily and this seems to fit that description. I’m not interested in Chelsea boots and also not planning on doing any hiking or physical labor. Planning on wearing with jeans and wool trousershttps://meermin.com/collections/mens-boots/products/516210-black-calf-e-ultraflex-system
>>18785185dressing up boots is dumb, get some rubber sole derbies instead
>>18785192Those ARE rubber sole derbies. They have a lug (rubber) sole and open lacing (derbies)
>>18785195shut up nerd you know exactly what I mean
>>18785071My ex was kind of similar, high instep and D width. I showed her Carmina and she loved them. Got one pair of MTO boots and loafers from them. I'm not sure what last she used, but I have to imagine they'd have options that would fit a slightly wider foot.
>>18785185Looks like a good choice for that
Anyone owned the Whites Perry? I had a pair of RW Moc Toes but they just weren't a good fit for my foot. Too wide but too narrow in the toes. Simply not for me How do the Perrys fit? Are they narrow in the toes? Sizing the same as the MP?
>>18785247I have some, sizing is the same. No issues with being squished in the toes but they're definitely designed around the removeable insole. Just something to consider, because I took it out and my foot was swimming in the boot.
>>18785249When it's in do they feel snug? My problem with the RW Mocs was my foot would literally slide around inside even with the laces pulled tight but my toes would be squished and I couldn't spread them. Just a weird shitty last
>>18785255My forefoot locks in really well when they're laced up, but I still have some unwanted side to side movement at my heel if I don't wear thick socks.
Is Lofgren better than Viberg?
>>18785185what is that catalog?>galway knockoff>gucci lug sole horsebit loafter knockoff>lhs knockoff>alden chukka knockoffmeermin's always been budget made in china crap, but now they went full temu
asspill me on blundstone
>>18785337meermin's whole thing is they do chinese knockoffs of popular styles
Can we talk workboots, lads? I need a pair of CSA-approved that are actually comfy. I was gonna buy Blundstones but apparently they're made in China now. Cost doesn't matter because my dickhead employers will pay for them. Bonus points if they look good too.
>>18784728>Doc ShittersDumbass shit. I have Whites, Redwings, and a number of other brands, and I still wear my docs more than any of them lol.
>>18785340They're fine as long as you actually wear them and put at least the basic leather care towards the uppers. I've had a pair for about 3 years now that's been fine aside from a little heel wear. No sole crumbling or anything weird.
>>18785432Get some Redbacks.
>>18784897Lately unstructured
>>18785071I bought my girl a pair of Grantstones, she immediately fell in love with them and she immediately understood why they btfo her doc martens which have always been uncomfortable on her.
>>18785280Surely Viberg must be better? At least by components. Aren’t Lofgren just like any other standard goodyear welted boots but with really high QC? Whereas Vibergs are really overbuilt like other PNW makers but with fancier designs and higher QC.Never owned Lofgren but haven’t seen any reviews where they mention them having some extra thick insole or heel counters or whatever
Red wing postmanAll you need
>>18785480Derbies on wedge soles are for children and geriatrics
>>18785489Still not as bad as derbies on lug soles
>>18785071my gf is mexican so it was ez
>>18785185>I just want something I can dress up or down fairly easilyYou're obviously looking for a Norwegian split toe boot
>>18785516NSTs are the patrician’s choice
>>18785516>>18785519urethra
>>18785516>39
>>18785473I think every good boot has a heel counter. Heel counter is not some special thing.>like any other standard goodyear welted boots>whereas Vibergs are really overbuiltWhat’s the real difference here? The extra thick insole? Judging from pictures, Lofgren or, say, Paraboot, have the same leather thickness as PNW boots. Or is it the thickness of the cork footbed?
N*cks just announced a new made in Mexico line
>have weird ass feet>have a pair of chelseas made bespoke as my business shoe>wear the hell out of them>5 years~, 5k miles+, 2 resoles>condition often, usually use shoe trees, bag and store when not in use, rotate>leather is starting to crack/wear down on bending points, showing ageWhen do you know that there really isn’t anything to be done? I feel like I’m doing what I should, but damn that’s a lot of use and age.
>>187856295 years is not that much even if you wear them every day
>>18785633I’d argue it’s more the intensity of use. Like these guys have been absolutely thrown at everything.Snowing but business? Guess we doing this. Only have one shoe for a trip that has both Vegas and Seattle in it? It’s this one. Etc, etc.
I’m liking these Fracaps
>>1878551639???
>>18785550>>18785650Are you surprised? It’s always manlets who buy this sort of shit.
>RDT Caspers sold out immediately in my sizes on Jap sites and Rivet and Hide
>>18785690They're really having a moment now. They used to sit for a while but now they're popping up all over social media and regular sizes sell out immediately. I'd like to know who or what set them off.
>>18785516>>18785519those look fucking retarded, like nearly any dressy boot.
>>18785636I like some fracaps too. I was eyeing these, but I just got engineers instead and I don't need more than 4 pairs of shoes.
Fell for the Solovair meme. My gibsons look wrinkled after two wears and the left one has a fuck ugly stray fibre right on the crease while my colleague's 1461's look almost impeccable. At least I'm getting a free replacement pair.
>>18785755Ironically, my Chinese DMs have all held up great. The leather broke in fine and no weird cracking or anything. Meanwhile my MIE 1490s fit like shit and the leather seems completely trash in comparison. Weird.
I just wish redwing would put out an unstructured beckman
>>18785758Only issue with chinese martens seem to be the sole fuse being too weak. I'm not a fan of their pigmented leathers but I woudn't mind the crazy horse or the grainy one if I cared for the style
>>18785516>peter qu>chinese shell cordovanit's pure garbage that tears apart immidiately and looks like shit up closenot even italian shell is this bad>>18785519on the left that finish is flaking off at the break point of the vamp and it left a irregular blotchy spot
>>18785622they failed going upmarket with brandle, now it's time to go downmarketshuyler continuing to run the brand into the groundno wonder him and brett viberg seem so awfully chummy with each other
Can sand/white boots ever be effay and not gay?
>>18785738Those are nice too
>>18785805Quintessential real human bean-core
>>18785791>not even italian shell is this badAre you genuinely fucking retarded? Maryam and Rocado produce some of the best shell cordovan in the world.
>>18785812totally
>>18785805Desert boots are kino as fuck
>>18785778I wish they would re-release the old flatbox beckmans
>>18785814That’s a scratch.
>>18785432I liked my RW supersoles for the short time I wore them.
>>18785791>that finish is flaking off
>>18784738gay vintage slop>>18784793ronald mcdonald from 1935 wants his boots back bro>>18784865sigh>>18785061faggot cowboy larp>>187851851940s now wow >>18785516lol looks straight off taobao>>18785519cringe soft boy shit>>18785636orthopedic tier silhouette>>18785738sigh as above/fa/ must have the worst taste in boots known to man
>>18785892Post boots then
>>18785892based/btg/ is trash
>Hi anon, I hope you like my boots. It was made from my dead skin. Don't worry I was happy to be killed so you could put me on your feets
>>18786028Uhh... you're not a horse
>>18786028>thinking I care
>>18786028leather is a byproduct you ignorant cunt
>>18786039You will when you die and reborn in a lower species
>>18786042>thinking I care
>>18786028>>18786042probable bait or just retardation
>>18786044>>18786091enjoy hell faggot
>>18784728>>>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themIs it really that bad if I only have one pair? It's not like I walk in heavy rain for hours every day.
>>18786098The whole point is not to have one pair of shoes. If you alternate your boots with a pair or cheap sneakers it’s okay as well
>>18786094>thinking I care about his made up religious fairytale nonsense
>>18786098Sweat can be an issue. Let them dry overnight somewhere fresh and with ventilation an you can wear them for days without too much problem. Cedar shoe trees also help in absorbing moisture.
>>18786028Thanks cowfriend. I appreciate your sacrifice.
>>18786028UM ACKCHYUALLYyou were killed for your meat, and rather than throw away your skin it was made into leather. so no, i do not feel back about wearing you on my feet
>>18786110Did you die yet? No. Enjoy hell sinner faggor
>>18786240That heel is hideous.
>>18786240the featherstone leathers on the older beckmans are way better than the excalibur they use now
hey guys. do you know how sizing compares on Carolina vs Nick's boots? my Carolina loggers just gave up the ghost& I'm planning on getting a pair of Nick's hot shots. the Carolinas are about perfectly sized with enough room for thick socks but not too big. I figure for the nicks I should get half a size down but thought I'd ask here in case anyone has any experience. thank you :)
>>18786381It'll be the same width, but at least a half a size down from the Carolina's.
>>18786398awesome, thank you anon!
What do you use to clean boots when they're somewhat dirty but not so dirty that saddle soap is overkill?
>>18786406water and a paper towel and then brush them
>>18786028>mfw wearing my leather boots eating a burger while cuddling with my pet cowdominion over animals nigga
>>18786028is this apartment vacant? are you taking applications?
>>18786381Talk to the people at nicks
Finally real boot weather
>>18785690Stop buying retarded meme shit
>>18786028This shouldn’t have made me laugh so hard.
Going to buy a natural, veg-tanned hide from W&C, should I get 4.5/5 or 5.5/6 oz?
Best brand that makes chelsea boots?
>>18787013TLB
is meermin good for you
>>18787013I wish it was still RM Williams but they're shit now. Another great brand ruined by private equity Just toss them on the pile
>>18787026Not a fan of them after owning two pairs, some loafers that were okay and some derbies that were unwearable due to the hard plastic stiffeners I wouldn't bother with them again personally
>>18787033Are these RM Williams any good? QRD on the brand?
>>18787037Tale as old as time. Some Australian billionaire bought the brand and immediately the quality tanks, they switch to foam insoles and the product got worse but the price went ever higher 700 now for their famous chelsea. No thanks
saphir MDO lotion (classic) or saphir MDO lotion based on macadamia?
Cop or not
>>18787105Too chunky for me, and what's up with the weird distressing on the toes?
>>18787105I bought a pair last november when they were having a sale. Mine are in the brown waxy commander leather, aging beautifully. Sorry I don't have any pictures.I believe repello isn't waxed suede but rather a suede that has a water resistance coating.Only positive thoughts about them. Very comfortable, versatile, easy to style. They're not as chunky as they seem in the pictures, the last has a little extra space at the end which gives them this pointy "refined" silhouette. For sizing they're pretty consistent with other wider fitting leather shoes I own including Jim Greens and Paraboots. If I intended to wear them with thin socks only I could go down half a size, but the leather isn't the thickest so for the harsh winters here I need some thick socks.
so, I switched back from leather laces to the default flat cotton laces that came with my lofgrens and the flat cotton laces were more comfortable/gave a better fit on my boots Expected the leather laces to be more comfortable because they flexed more
>>18787147Anon? Rigidly fixing your foot in place is the exact opposite of comfort.Cotton laces are stretchy so of course they are far far far more comfortable.Look like shit compared to leather ones though.
>>18787157>cotton stretchy>leather rigidyou really believe that, you moron?
>>18787159Absofuckinglutely and you are pretty retarded if you think otherwise.
Got these last year after looking for awhile for a new pair of boots to kast another 15 years. Allen Edmunds store. I beat them to shit already but what can you do. Decent refurbishment price to resole/etc.
>>18787159Well yeah, a woven cotton lace is gonna stretch and give quite a bit. There is a reason sneakers and shit all use cotton laces.Leather laces are more utilitarian, you generally use them for maximum security and stability, like when you are hiking through dangerous terrain and want to make absolutely sure your boots aren't gonna shift around even one tiny bit. They will basically always snap before they give and stretch any meaningful amount.For fashion do what you want though, leather laces just look way nicer with most boots.
I'm going to by my father in law a pair of Yanko service boots from skolyx, I like the cap toe ones, which ones are your favorite? Rn I'm leaning towards the brown suede, I'll make sure to buy some saphir water repellent spray for him if I go with that leather. Should I consider the Norwegian style?
>>18787161>>18787171is this supposed to bait?
>>18787187How do you propose leather is more stretchy than woven fabric anon?
>>18787187Not bait, they’re just retarded
>>18787187Take a leather belt and try to stretch it.Then take any random cotton garment you have lying around and try to stretch it.
>>18787208ok, you're right
>>18787246The other anon wins simply because your faggot loser ass used AI to do your research for you
>>18787246have you read the last paragraph of that you absolute fucking retard?
>>18787263This, lmfao. Imagine being that stupid.
Hush puppies or bust
>>18787263the cotton fibres themselves dont "stretch" but the weave gives and lets the whole lace stretch quite a lotleather stretches almost none at all it thins out and snaps
>>18787478Ur sister stretched quite a lot last night m9
>>18787478Yeah, the waeve makes cotton laces a rubber band and leather thins out due to magic.Stick to Velcro, idiot.
Can we talk about boots?
>>18787515No one likes boots. Let’s discuss feet.
>his leather laces don't stretch
For me? Waxed cotton laces.
Wooden laces.
Sinew laces.
I just use Paracord for my boots.Fits the rugged look way nicer than cotton and isn't as expensive as replacing leather laces every other month.
As for me, I use my tennis racket strings on my boots. Strictly gut. When I break them, I put them on my boots.
>he doesn't use old guitar strings to lace his bootsngmi desu
>lacesI use a zipper
>niggas seriously ain't learned the velcro meta yet
>>18785185
Alright guys, rant here. Wesco probably has the most retarded engineer boot design ever. Seriously, they fucking suck. 6 years ago I bought a pair of their Mister Lous. Followed the sizing advice, they fit well, but my god they are just uncomfortable. Footbed felt like I was walking on granite, and holy shit the heel counter felt nonexistent. Over 6 months of wear, I was still getting blisters on my heel because the heel counter had zero volume and felt like it was only containing only half of the total height of my heel while digging into the middle of my heel, creating blisters over a full days of wear. Sold those, then I went to the actual Wesco factory since I live locally. They measured my feet in person for a MTO pair of horsehide 7500 boots. Waited 9 months until they arrived at my place. The heel slip while using the 2nd to last instep strap was fucking massive, so I tightened the strap to the last hole. Way too tight for like a week until the leather stretched out and felt slightly more comfortable, but the issue with the heel counter came back and it feels like I'm getting hot spots on my heels because their engineer boots have a nonexistent heel counter. Oh and yeah the footbed on these also feels like granite. If you're looking for a pair of engineers, DO NOT waste your money on Wesco. I think if there is something that is fundamentally flawed with their design, it would have to be the shape of the heel counter. Since there is no shape to it, it fails to even function and prevent heel slip while also digging or rubbing against your heel too aggressively. I've owned John Lofgrens which felt incredible compared to these. I bought a pair of RTW Role Clubs which are undoubtedly the best fitting and most comfortable boots I've ever worn. A pair of engineers need to minimize the heel slip while also feeling like there isn't too much aggressive friction.
>>18787956If I wanted a chink boot, I'd ask for it.
thinking of buying iron rangers>mfw it cost 420 american dollars.
>>18788312>>18787956
>>18788312>>18788315I will not buy chink boots
>>18788320https://youtu.be/zvVa3W8XiP4
>>18785432>nowthey always were made in vietnam/china
>>18788298>no picsnah just you the bosses are better than the lofgrens
porkhurst drop fridey btw
>>18788335stopped caring about this brand ages ago when they stopped making things in the USA and never brought back the spruce kudu allen
>>18788347fair but for me its the red welts never coming backi have a euro pair and its solid but just not the samei think they stopped doing leather matched heel pads too
>>18788348And I'm sorry, but the CF Stead le wacky crazy leathers are so played out and tired that I'm just not interested. I don't care about yet another brand doing waxy commander or rambler. Truman did it first years earlier.
So my ideal boots would be custom black rough out hunter boots from whites and then I would wax them for looks and waterproofing but I don't have almost 900usd to drop on boots. I used to want lorenzo combat boots by from the first in suede to mimic that style I want but then from the first started scamming people so that's out the window. So what are my options for a black suede combat boot? It doesn't seem like I have any options. I could potentially buy some paramemes and sand down the smooth leather to make nubuck and do that but I just don't know.
Forgot my pic. Lorenzo combat boot by from the first. Essentially a dior navigator copy.
>>18788350perhaps but vince is retardedthe 602 is what people treated the dayton as back in the day and its coming back allegedly
Whites hunter. These in black rough out are my grail boots.
I know hydrolysis is a thing for hiking boots but is dry rot a major concern for regular boots? I use boot grease for maintenance but what else am i missing? All my boots have rubber outsoles btw.
i miss doc marten work boot with the steeltoe shame they don’t make them anymore. now it’s just slop for mexican teenagers
>>18788377Seeing Carolina shoes and Asics lineup year to year i can fully understand why people buy shoes then buy another 3 pairs due to how much it changes sku's year by year.
>>18788312>thinking of buying iron rangers>>mfw it cost 420 american dollars.Just write them off on your taxes since you'll be wearing them for your gigs at birthday parties.
>>18788298>the heel counter felt nonexistent>the shape of the heel counterIs it not enough rounded? Does it not grip your heel?
Why are Carlos Santos boots never discussed here?
>>18788403>Poorfag bootsAnon pls.
uggo cuckko boots!
>>18788405$500 is poorfag?
>>18788403They look good.
>>18788407Yes anon i am sorry for your situation.
>>18788407LMAO
>>18788417Ah, so Red Wing is a poorfag brand. Checks out.
Poorfag brands official list:Red WingCheaneyGrensonTLB MallorcaCarminaGrant StoneTrumanParkhurst
>>18788470Accurate desu.
>>18788468Yes no joke you are a tradie faggot for buying them.
The rounded heel on PNW boots is absolutely horrendous and gay.
>>18788470Carmina isn't cheap
>>18788477>The rounded heelCan you use real names for things
>>18788487I am so, so sorry. I should have said “the CANTILEVERED heel”.Happy now, you jewified tool?
>>18788500Or maybe the correct definition is “obese amerilard heel counter”Better?
>>18788500>>18788502It’s actually “bull’s testicle heel”
>>18788503KEKThat’s exactly what they look like
>>18788468Yes. Once you get into the >$600 range (maybe $700 or $800 with the way inflation has been), you'll notice how mid reddit wing really is. You may as well cut your losses and buy Thursdays instead.
>>18788508True, except a pair of Truman or Porkhurst is essentially the same as PNW boots (with the exception of the arch ease system perhaps, which is a meme btw) and yet they don’t cost 900 dollars or 1000 euros
>b-b-but grandpa in the 1920s said you get what you p-pay for!
>>18788511>which is a meme btwYou have soft hands
>>18788523You post too much
What do you get in boots that cost more than 500? I think that is the point of diminishing returns in footwear.
>>18788530Good leather. You really get nothing else aside from specified fitment for your feet.
>>18788508>$600 range (maybe $700 or $800 with the way inflation has been)your no different from a sneaker faghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5_LSmAmoh0&t=501s
>>18788508You can get way with 150$ boots anon. Resole them 3x times and you get the same value as whites or nicks.
>>18788530It's mostly the autistic construction, good if you actually work on them instead of just larping. I'm ok with my $50 derbies
>>18788531Good leather meaning museum grade horse butt.
>>18788547Better than cow desu. Next best is ostrich or even better stingray.
>>18788397Not nearly as much as other engineers. Just look at photos of their boots and you'll know what I mean
>>18788547ackshually it's a fiber inside the butt>>18788548kangaroo mogs
>>18788531>Good leatherAbsolute bullshit. If you think Horween is good leather you’re fucking retarded. There are entry-level brands that use Blake stitch and offer better leathers than some $800-tier brands.The difference is the construction, the production process, and some pretentious memes such as MTO.
>>18788553So what is the problem exactly?
Lmao Viberg’s 2030 last fucking sucks. Why do redditors love it?
I own thusdays and I enjoy them
How do you cope with the fact that all the brands in the world except maybe a couple of them, put celastic shit inside the leather?
>>18788599>turdsday
>>18788599speak your shit king
>>18788594Wescos lasts are retarded and are fundamentally flawed due to suboptimal heel counter shape. This produces a shitty, uncomfortable wear. Not worth the money
>>18788608Have you had that problem with whites or nicks?
>>18788593MTO is not custom measurements, please learn
>>18788530the higher in price you go what you're getting is usually better materials in terms of quality of hides used but also for things like holdfast construction versus a glued on gemming for goodyear welt construction. things like greater attention to detail in finishing, higher SPI (for dressy styles), etc. it's little things that don't affect much. but for some people those little details are important to them
I've started to like boots with side zippers. They are just so convenient since you get in and out of them in like 10 seconds.
>>18788553couldn't find anything, post photos of the heel counters on your boots
>>18788616There is literally no difference.
>>18788650I will never understand people being so blissfully ignorant.
>>18788652You get your feet measured, and then you make an order for boots, which come 36 months later. That’s MTO.
>>18788652Imagine getting btfo this hard
>>18788656That's made to measurements. Made to order means there's no finished product on a warehouse shelf waiting for a customer.
>>18788616>>18788652Are you mad because he said Horween is not good leather?
>>18788650>>18788656>>18788657retard moment
>>18788659>created especially for a particular person: made-to-order bootsExactly what happens with pnw memes. You better shut up dude
>>18788661Imagine dedicating your life and your 16 waking hours each day to turning a virtual space into an ever-growing dump of retarded radioactive shit
>>18788660He’s mad because he’s a fatfuck who lives in Texas or some burger-infested shithole
>>18788662I don't know why you go to these lengths to win an internet argument when anyone here can use google and see that the results disagree with you. I know /fa/ is mostly used by people with no actual knowledge in clothing so let me educate you a little bit. There are four tiers of clothing.1. Ready to wear. Standard off the rack clothing.2. Made to order. Standard clothing that get made only after an order has been placed, there can be many reasons for this from storage limits to material costs.3. Made to measurements. Standard clothing that get adjusted to the customers needs, this usually also involves a choice in materials.4. Bespoke. Completely custom made clothing.
>>18788662friendship ended with chatgpt, now cambridge dictionary is my best friend
>>18788669> 2. Made to order. Standard clothing that get made only after an order has been placed, there can be many reasons for this from storage limits to material costs.But, anon, that is not what the Cambridge Dictionary says. Are you just autistic?
>>18788670Best of luck my dude.
>>18788356>vince is retardedAre you contractualy obligated to grab a beer with him once per week if you buy trumans or something?
As far as I know PNW brands don’t do made to measurement in the traditional sense. You sending in your measurements just means they pick the already existing closest to correct size and then build your boots. They don’t make a custom last for you, which is what traditionally is meant by made to measure. It’s just them basically giving you the feeling of extra attention and the feeling of a bespoke experience. Anyway dunno why you’re all so autistic about this stuff.
>>18788679>dunno why you’re all so autistic about this stuffDo you know where you are?
>>18788669for footwear it's super simple1 RTW- stock boot2 MTO- custom boot on a stock last3 MTM- custom boot on a stock last adjusted to the customer's foot measurements4 bespoke- custom boot made on a on an individual custom last
>open Nicks page>”made-to-order” written everywhere
>>18788679Wow, that actually makes a lot of sense as to why Wescos engineers fit like shit. I got mine "M2M", but they probably just picked the closest stock size regardless and they are uncomfortable. This is why I personally think that engineer boots are something you should not cheap out on. Spend at least like $1500 on a more reputable brand. They usually have way more comfortable footbeds and heel counters. The PNW brands pride themselves on being le ultra durable and tanky, but that comes at the expense of not being practically comfortable on your feet while walking around all day. Maybe lace up boots are a different story since you can just lace your feet in tight. With engineers, heel slip is a common issue so it would just be better going with a pair that actually uses a comfortable insole and some good veg tan for the heel counter so that its not so incredible uncomfortable while your heel slips around walking all day
>engineer bootsI didn’t know Santa was an engineer
>memexcel
>>18788716Holy fucking shit that looks awful
>>18788723Fresh out of the box
>>18788716>>18788727Is that teacore? My guess is that horween uses worse cuts of leathers for their pigment/teacore, or this particular boot company just uses cheaper cuts
>>18788743>this particular boot companyRed Wing
red wing uses horween?
>>18788748Not horween then, just some mediocre in-house teacore.
>>18788679i thought everyone knew this? they frame it as getting sized not m2m
>>18788686Are they not lined or something
>>18788716>>18788727RW found another mark. lol
>>18788716>>18788727Man, new beckmans look so bad.
>>18788888Aren’t those the flatbox though?
>>18788888The old version on the #8 last looked so good
western-adjacent boot recommendations? basically i'm looking for the slanted heel and the pointed toe(pictured: yuketen pancho)
>>18789099I think every PNW brand has some kind of packer boot, and you can request a lower heel if they're too tall for you. A lot of Jodhpur and side zip boots have a slanted heel by default. Not sure about options if you want a very dressy boot.
>solovairs are high qual-
>>18789141said who
>>18788959No, old beckmans were all eyelets. Plus the shape of the heel counter and other details are different.>>18789030Indeed.
>>18789099W H I T E S packers
>>18789146literally wearing high heels
>>18789149its the same height as the >>18789099
>>18789146this is some queer shit let’s be honest
I feel like black boots can go with brown leather jackets/coats but the reverse doesn't work as well
>>18788637Yeah same and they look cleaner than chelsea boots. Though low cut boots are actually even faster to put on and take off. I can just slip them on with a shoe horn or pluck them off with the laces still tied and they're snug enough.
>>18789271>>18788637yeah I don't like the look of the elastic on chelsea boots
>put on boots before work and walk to the fridge>retie>walk to car>retie>reach a stoplight>retie>get to work>retie>11am>retie>2pm>retie>leave work and walk to car>retieunironically help
>>18789282Double knot it faggot
>>18789285no you dont understandits loose each timemy foot just shrivels up
the laces just get longer and longerthe 10.5s have almost no length in the mornings tightened at full strength and have floopy bunny ears at end of day
>>18789282flat laces. round laces come undone constantlydouble knotting obviously, but flat laces are way better at staying done
>>18789290this happens wiith round, wide flat on my loden suedes, leather on my grey kuduthe foot is not cooperating
>>18788716>>18788727And red wing fags shit on thursday? lol
Why the fuck do my sizes always get sold out first
>>18789282berluti knot
>>18789304It's Bully Theory. RW fags understand that people don't have to like you, you just have to avoid being the least-liked to be socially-included. The best way to do that is to make sure somebody else is the one getting picked on.
>>18789282Google granny knot, scroll until you see a link to Ian's shoelace site, read that, learn how to tie your shoes.
>>18789146you sure love taking pecker don't you?
>>18789360i knew about that before you and do it correctly ive told you the problem isnt the laces loosening
>>18789410all you've done is complain about not knowing how to tie your shoes
>>18789413illiterate
>>18789414no, you're just a retard
>>18789415>boot sinched down as tight as possible in the morning>at the end of day the facings are closer and theres twice the available lace at the end>hurr the laces are looseningyou should suck start a .44 magnum in front of your family
>>18789282https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q44kByZmKDsHandy tutorial that works for boots tooKeep practicing!
subhumans
>>18789421>>18789416
>>18789282>>18789287>>18789416>>18789425Sounds like a very serious problem with your circulation. See a doctor immidiately!
>>18789429the punctuation makes me think youre mocking me
>>18789367>he sees peckerfreud would like a word
>>18789416It is literally impossible for your feet to get smaller throughout the day, and unless you have magical laces they're not gonna get any longer. So either you're not tightening your laces properly or you're making shit up.
>>18789453I PULL MY SHIT TILL ITS SQUEEZING MY FUCKING FOOT BECAUSE I KNOW THIS HAPPENSI HAVE DOUBLE THE LACE LENGTH AT END OF DAYFUCKING HELP ME
>>18789454Making shit up it is then. You really gotta find a better hobby than shitposting on a dead board, buddy.
>>18789454are your laces made out of silly string? that is not possible
Dressable winter boots for a winter funeral? My uncle is very weak right now and I might be facing a funeral during the winter. Details: I live in a nordic country
>>18789534this mf killing his unkle just to be /fa/ in a funeral lmao
>>18789539It's not funny. He can't even remember where the fuck he lives anymore, he's got leukemia
>>18789534Tricker’s Stow in some black leather. He’ll look down on you very impressed
>>18789552TY
Lofgren combat boots or donkey punchers?
do these go on sale or should i buy em now
