I want them to reconcile :(
>>156138337Earthbender milkers
>>156138360this show is really afraid of attractive young female characters
>>156138360When we will see her actual hair?
>>156138360>GILF>Thicc>Huge boobs>Arm musclesBros im in love
>>156138337>Still no 7H merchIm convinced these people don’t want my money
>>156138484>young Agam went from haven to have being in high demand as the only hot woman with prominent boobs, hips and ass in a world of flatties
>>156138492>No Pavi and Nisha plushieswhy even live
>>156138337Me too bro me too
>>156138337Easily done.>cue to the leaked storyboards>during the fight Karthik reveals to Nisha that she didn't kill her parents>he met them after the incident>nice people, Nisha, really>such a shame they knew too much and he had to ensure they'd never tell anyone else about the Avatar>if only he'd held back, though, they might have told him they had twins>he could have had TWO Avatars under his thumb from the startCut to Nisha bursting into tears, then powering up to rip out Karthik's bending.
>>156138492korra also barely has any merch, only atla seems to get something
Wasn't the jailbreak scene so exciting? Such novel uses of bending, and the choreography was great too.
>>156138381Are you blind? Pavi and Nisha are right there.
>>156138710Oopsie posted the wrong webm by accident hehe
>>156138729comparing this to the bending in 7havens is just rough. Also gets weitere jene you realise they should have been able to just earthbend themselve out of the jailcell
Seeing LoK haters having to talk about the show like they really loved it just to have something to shit on this one with will never not be funny
>>156138757ignore my typos it’s the 5am and im tired
>>156138767I can hate two things. I can shit on two things.
pavisisters its over
woke-ism in prime
>>156138337Behead those who insult my daughters show
I’m fucking dead the slander is egregious
>>156138524They seriously need to launch a top tier videogame if they really want to turn this into a franchise.
>Avatar has now existed long enough to see its fans treat korra like the star wars prequel trilogy that was hated at first, but seen in a slightly better light now that the fans have realized that it could actually get much worse.Too bad korra wasnt a meme goldmine like the prequel trilogy was
>>156138960saber interactive was doing an rpg but it got cancelledstill they have a decent game going on right now
>>156138953>Thicc Karthikbased
>>156138360Those are some massive boulders
>>156138337I wanted to give her a hug, she was really scared :(
>>156138642I have a suspicion korra sealed the avatar state until every avatar awakens every chakra
This better
>>156138767The shows have different problems, which makes for interesting comparisons. LoK was extremely competently made in purely technical terms, but the characters were bad and the plots just never cooked right. 7H has glaring technical issues all over the place, but the twins aren't as actively hateable as Korra. Yet.
>>156139056...so korra is so shit that even if she found a way to go in the recycling bin and undo deleting the avatar state, she made it even more challenging for the next avatar to unlock their crutch powers after she let the apocalypse happened because she wanted life to be on hard mode for her new game plus
Seems most think Nisha is gonna be stuck in Ellora for most of the story til she either the Haven falls or Pavi comes back for her but do remember that the White Lotus members from other Havens urged Karthik to have her be sent away for training. I can totally see scenarios where she'll also go to the other Havens with the reason to further her training and then she'll deal with some of the chakras.
The Faceless are shitter thieves. That is all.
>>156139079
>>156138337How was your Halloween avatar chads
>>156138757My biggest complaint with the bending was that the animators no longer seem to have basic knowledge of physics.But to be fair I had the same complaint in airbender when fire had kinetic force?
I think I like big girls
>>156139191>fire had kinetic forceI always overlooked the fire somehow being even more kinetic than air because it was their way of having fire be less much less violent than burning people in a kid's show
>>156139191It's just a conceit of firebending that it's basically spicy airbending in terms of physics. I mean, why should a blast of fire have less force than a blast of air? The difference is that airbending is more flexible.
So what's the consensus on this show now? Better than expected?
>>156138648I hope they don't negate her killing her parents. It really kills the tension and danger of their powers.
Hehe I talk to bugs and rocks. The ground is my everywhere friend. I'm very quirky!
>>156139293I like it a lot. And there's plenty of world building to autist over.
>>156138699Her comics didn't sell well either iirc. Plus not really anything worth wearing but a korra shirt and even then most of the new designs are much more boring than the original. I think that new big art scene the crew posted would be a great poster for 7h though.
>>156138998I don't know. I don't suddenly have a higher opinion of Korra. I've always said for over a decade that Korra is amazing in everything except writing, which drags down the whole show. It's just depressing to see them slide back on all the things Legend of Korra didn't actually fuck up, while still having bad writing anyway.
>>156139293So far it's more coherent than Korra, which is all I'm really asking for at this point. Not that Kayoko's sudden despotism and the Faceless being portrayed as dindus isn't weak writing, but fuck my standards are on the floor for Avatar.
>>156139340>read Korra comics>Asami gets kidnapped in both of themHmm
>>156139293The main characters are okay. Basically everything else about the show is mediocre to genuinely awful.
> Welcome to Spa Pavi!>Why’d I let you talk me into this?>You love baths!I’m against them. Dirt protects you from the world.My daughter
>>156138873>how could you do that to your family... to meAnd yet people swear Pavi is mad about Nisha not telling her. You despite the other scene where Pavi was fine with Nisha not telling after Nisha told her the memory had bad shit in it.
>I'LL BE A STINKIER AVATAR THAN YOU!
>>156138729why do you watch avatar?f-for the p-plot!fuck off, it's all about bending fightingatla>lok>>>>>7 shitters
>>156138939nisha is a whore
>>156139373Yeah, as much as I didnt like korra's writing decisions, the animation and music were still top notch. It is disappointing that the remaining saving grace of the series was replaced with what resemble Steven universe more than it does avatar
>>156139374More coherent? Korra's writing was perfectly coherent, just fucking dumb because Korra herself was fucking dumb. Seven Havens is the one that has bizarre incoherent moments.
I think bryke really over estimate how much anyone thinks of asami. Even in the peak of korra she wasn't even popular most of her porn exist to fuck korra. Them saying "oh she's dead" no shit it's been 200 years and she was 40ish at the time of the collapse as well. But I hope they don't ruin s2 by over focusing on korrasami.
That scene where the queen sandbends and reveals the faceless hideout looked kinda stupid, she did a bunch of movements that did nothing before actually start bending the sand, reminded me of that first live action movie
>>156139485She was the most likable person in korras team avatar
>>156139051True, poor baby
>>156139293Decent but I don't like a single character. All of them are very bland and forgettable. I also think not having anyone from the old generation brings this show down by a LOT. I think one of Korra's biggest qualities were the old characters and their kids (or grandkids) interacting with the new gen. Hell, Korra and Tenzin's relationship was one of the best in the show. Interacting with Wu gave Mako a character. Seven Havens is missing out on that.
>>156139374It's a kids' show and having just rewatched all of ATLA, you faggots are either not remembering that show's faults, or nostalgia blinds you to them. I'd say that in terms of characters and story, SH and ATLA are season 1 are comparable. ATLA had to juggle with its episodic nature and focusing on characters that would SOMETIMES show up again way later, but at it at least developed Aang, Katara, Sokka and Zuko throughout it all somewhat. In SH, Jae, Karthik and the twins get developed much more slowly, but I'd argue that the plot is a lot more focused than early ATLA. >>156139293I'd say so. Stringing viewers along with its mysteries and reveals, and hard hitting moments are its biggest strengths. The speculation aspect is very fun, which wasn't really the case for Korra and I was just a dumb kid watching ATLA so I just talked about what bending was the coolest with friends. How will Pavi and Nisha reconcile? Will Pavi unleash the anomaly this time and Nisha will be the one that conquers it by letting go of her guilt, or are they doing the light/dark avatar thing?
>>156138729Man. I give Korra a lot of shit but sometimes it had really great animation.
>>156138710>needs rocks smuggled in to break out>as soon they're out of the cell, there's rocks all over the catwalks for then to bend
>>156138337I want them to fight.
>>156139495She was literally the most boring member as well she didn't do anything. Also she was cool until the relationship drama started then she just was the kinda smart girl. Jinora and tenzin felt way more useful and relevant than asami ever was
>>156139507Also, ATLA had 20 episode seasons to work with, a luxury neither TLoK or SH have. Considering they're sticking with the format that Korra had, the show could be a lot worse.
DAEMIN GTFU
>>156139495That's just because everyone else on the team is a dipshit, so merely being a cardboard cutout that the rest of the cast pretends is a person automatically makes her the most likeable "person" in the room.
>>156139527They will and nisha will get her ass beat by pavi mercilessly. Nisha exist to be mogged and bullied by pavi and the plot.
>>156139555Soon you will see.
>>156139485Even back in LoK, I was wondering why she was sticking around so long, she felt like a 3rd wheel, and it was weird that her weapon of choice for years was some stun glove she looted off a random henchman. Glad im not the only one who noticed their overestimating of interest in asami, she was just a businesswoman who was fucking the avatar on the side...and it was 200 years. No shit she died a long time ago like every one
>>156139558Correct
Hey nisha I found a cool trick to do with my peg leg! If you put it in this hole and slide it in and out, it feels super good! Wanna try it out?
>>156139567She will probably lose a limb
>>156139179This needs updating. Pavi needs to be the pirate with a peg leg that is being chewed off by shark Nisha. Just like in real life!
>>156139310But this way we're on track for Punished Karthik!
>>156139574Was that just me or was that stupid asf, she stole a glove that was literally made by the enemies/her dad and kept using it but she could barely fight and it needed you to be up close and personal. She had a whole company and barely contributed anything but a car or some small tech. She should have been better than sokka but she was less useful, why didn't she make a lightning gun or a tazer. Or some form of upgrades to her glove at least. She was the non bender and had way more resources than sokka but somehow did nothing with them til like the finale and that was more her dad than her. Literally half the time the materials they used weren't even hers but another political/rich characters things like the toph's daughter or tenzin's stuff.
>>156139485>>156139574Nah Asami was extremely propped up by the fandom because in Book 1 she got dealt a shit hand (boyfriend's cheating on you with the Avatar, dad's a terrorist) and was everything Korra wasn't, which was seen as a good thing. If you go look at what Datu fans are doing right now, basically describing a character that doesn't exist and getting mad over his treatment, Asami went through the same thing. So much that even now 12 years later people still think she was this amazing character. She had the least lines out of the Krew and even some like Tenzin and Jinora had more lines than her.
>>156139507The episodic nature of early AtLA is a feature, not a bug. It's not made to be consumed in one sitting like modern shows. Meanwhile the 7H is more focused, but to what avail? No one except the twins get any development and the plot has some of the most insufferable crawling yet breathless pacing I've ever seen.Plus AtLA has better comedic timing, which buys it a LOT more leeway than 7H on the humor.
>>156139145Jae is too much of a Karthik fanboy to not have secretly stolen some sort of long range communicator so that they can talk. Alternatively, I think that the red aurora streak is quite literally pointing the way the next Haven. This is probably the most promising aspect of the show for me - the fact it'll bring back the element of adventure and seeing the world that avatar had and that Korra downplayed.
>>156138484>>156138710tfw Agam will never tackle you by shoving her vealy vulva into your face and rolling it up your face and nose
I want 24 episodes a season
>>156139567Imagine being the avatar that got formally trained for years, and losing to the crippled self taught one?
>>156139653Monkey's paw curls and the Kuruk show gets 24 episodes a season
SO THAT WAS A FUCKING LIE, PAVI?
>>156139687Local 9-year-old not prepared to find out her twin killed their parents.
>>156139574Bryke was setting her up for a villain arc, then decided it would be more interesting to have her dodge the cliche and stay a good guy. And they weren't wrong, it was cool in the moment. But then they had no other ideas to fill the empty space and never came up with anything interesting ever. So she just stays stuck in her place, like an NPC whose scripting got broken.
>>156139574True she literally is probably the one that ended the world based on the clip but somehow they'll say "she is feeling guilt and was well meaning just failed". I felt this anon like them trying to imply korra lived a long time or something like no shit they'd be dead they'd have to be 240+ years old they both were graying and had wrinkle lines before the 200 year time skip. Unless they want to set up super insane potential life spans I don't see the point.>>156139617I do get this and I liked her as well at first but like most people s1 holds a special place because I assumed they'd actually do something and she never lived up to the potential. I think at best you can say she was the most "pitied" character as korra cucked her like 2 times but that pity only goes so far. Also she chose the girl that cucked and ruined her life twice so she chose disfunction. But please god let's not start the korrasami bs today, but my point is she really is only "relevant" because ok looking female character and she bangs the avatar/brown tomboy.I think you are confusing "oh this is a cool bg character" with man this is the most popular character yeah you have the classic "Man bg character no2 with 2 scenes is a badass" comments like people hyping amow. But if amow never does anything she's just a guilty pleasure/cool bg character. But worse thing about asami is she is in a lot of scenes but is so forgettable tell me a truly good asami scene that isn't just her kissing korra.
>>156139645I can't see it working as well. The Gaang had Appa flying them around, so it made sense they could reach a new interesting location every episode or the North Pole within one season. Jae and Pavi are going by foot. Plus they only have six or seven episodes per chakra/haven.
>>156139716>so forgettable tell me a truly good asami scene that isn't just her kissing korra.She never even kisses Korra outside the comics. But the scene where she goes against her dad and saves every was pretty memorable. It's also the last time she has meaningful agency as a character.
>>156139616Now that you mention it, she was the engineer on the team(on a steampunk-ish time) and they couldnt find a way to make her lean into her one gimmick but to hold on to a stun gun for dear life and have her be a close range fighter in a setting full of benders.
>>156139708And possibly ate her sister's leg before Karthik found her.
>>156139588True and pavi is gonna take it.>Nisha screaming as she holds her new nub leg>Blood is everywhere>Pavi:Now we are real twins again nisha>>156139657Sadly this is Nisha's life she got completely humilated this season. An the set up and fact they say pavi is the focus in most of the og lore stuff implies it'll stay this way. Even her win seems to be focused on her causing another tragedy for herself.Plus now pavi hates her she will dog walk nisha in front of everyone expose the fraud twin kek.
>>156139731You act like they won't open with Jae saying something like "We've been traveling for a month now". I remember someone calling it that Kayoko was gonna immediately say "We've been searching for two weeks" the episode after Nisha got revealed.
Ngl I think the "Asami died before the show haha" thing is an accidental hint the theory she died before the cataclysm and therefore Korra has legs.
>>156139555It's pretty annoying how Daemin and Jae are competing to see who is the new Bolin, but at least Jae gets to actually do stuff.
>>156139762Why do the Ellorans love Nisha at all? They know it was Pavi who disarmed the anomaly, right?
>>156139687>alright now rip their heart out
>>156139606True but I prefer karthik remains well meaning moral gray none of this killing your parents or secretly did something. Plus pov just would be massive plot leap for them to both to be alive and for karthik to have planned it. It would be a true character shift and assassination more than what some say about pavi.
>does nothing>gets spirit cancer>dies
>>156139712>like an NPC whose scripting got broken.Like that unit you recruited but just sits there because you already seen all of their dialog trees
>>156139626>comedic timingLMAO!Dude the only thing that actually made me laugh watching the show again was the Ember Island Players episode, Sokka's quips at most got a chuckle out of me. Speaking of, what was even the point of him learning the sword? He learns how to wield one, and the one thing he uses it for is to throw it like a boomerang.And I think I posted once before I was rewatching the show maybe you or someone else said something similar, but I disagree, at least as far as season 1 goes. It's the show at its rawest and most unfocused. The goal is clear since the get-go: get Aang to learn all 4 elements. Meeting Roku reveals by when he should master the elements. I didn't need Jet's episode to become aware Sokka and Katara wouldn't be into indiscriminately killing Fire Nation citizens. Katara's growth as a waterbender is also weird - it happens offscreen. She can barely bend save for outbursts of anger like cracking ice in episode 1, teaches Aang her basic moves which me immediately masters, gets the water scroll to learn the water whip and then boom - at the south pole by the time she challenges Paku she is better at waterbending than Aang by a country mile. Zuko's episodes where he ISN'T chasing Aang are the best and most important in S1. The rest? Not so much.
>>156139756They had a really fucking hard time threading the needle on finding situations where Asami's engineering know how was useful. Like, she's the team pilot/driver and then she knows some tricks when she and Korra are captured on an airship. Otherwise Varrick completely eats her lunch in S2 and S4.
>>156139756Exactly and she wasn't even a ty lee type see if she was some type of genuine martial artist and had the shock glove or baton then it'd fit. Shit they showed exactly the type of build she could be aka the equalist fighters imagine if she learned from them and became a bender fighter mix of chi blocking and steampunk gear. But no she was just the kind of snarky rich girl who barely did shit.>>156139751I barely remember that sadly I know the scene somewhat but basically can't even remember it all that well. Like I know she suffered but thought it was more korra that put her dad on blast then asami later found the proof.
>>156139731Anon, it's a fucking cartoon. They can bend time however they want. We're not gonna see Pavi riding Geet and Jae running behind them for 5 minutes straight to get a representation of them traveling far to reach the next Haven.
>>156139814There's some traces of validity in there, but I'm not taking the bait.
>>156139712I would've preferred if they didnt make mako a cheater and korra a gross homewrecker who dates all her friends. Asami easily couldve been a suki of the korra but bryke wanted more focus on romance and love triangles because they thought that what the then older audience lf avatar wanted to see
>>156139771>president of Future Industries, Asami Sato, found dead, a victim of foul play>after an intense investigation by the Avatar and head detective Head of Mako in a Jar, the culprit turned out to be non-other than the head of Cabbage Corp>his motive was said to be using Asami's new breakthrough spirit energy generators to mystically convert everyone in the planet into mutant cabbage people, believing that if everyone was cabbages nobody would ruin the cabbages>he has obviously never met people>breaking news! the Avatar herself is using her muscles of MILFy might to...tear all the spirit energy pipes out of the city?>oh fuck there's so much energy pouring over everything>FUCK NOW THE PLANETARY POLES ARE FLIPPING>KORRA HAS DOOMED US AL-
>>156139787Because they look similar and karthik basically hyped her up and they knew she was the avatar plus sure half of people were like "Oh the avatar saved me, or wow the avatar sucked up the sphere and saved us"Then karthik says hey this is the avatar and you all are like oh we must been wrong about her.
>>156139873>and head detective Head of Mako in a Jartf happened to mako this is only like 20+ years later
>>156139787With Kayoko completely red eyed and crazier than usual the anti-Avatar sentiments seem to have turned in favor of the Avatar saving them all. Nisha may not have done as much as Pavi, but being the twin of the Avatar and an Avatar herself would get her support by proxy, plus Karthik is likely playing up the angle that she stalled the dome and helped save people. It's true, but one cannot help but think that if Nisha hadn't kept running from the memory and faced her fear they wouldn't have been in that mess.Poor kid has too much Korra in her, I guess.
>>156139787They saw Nisha holding it back on the wall. They might conclude she could've done it it not for Kayoko interrupting.
>no more cute twin momentsIm SEEETHING
>>156138407She has to contain her hair lest she gives all men nearby sudden erections if they didn't already have them
I like the art direction they've got for the avatar kuruk show, I hope it stays like that and it doesn't become fully voltronified like Seven Havens, but I'm pissed that they made him a little kid. Is he even supposed to know he's the avatar at that age? What about his team? They'll have to make an avatar series mainly geared towards the people that grew up with it eventually, right?
>>156139869What bait? I'm trying to have an honest conversation with you here. My point isn't that ATLA sucks actually and SH is better and you should feel bad if you think it has problems - it's merely that at least as far as season 1 goes, ATLA was a lot more unfocused and suffers from some of the same issues as SH because again, they are both shows for kids. That's all I'm saying. I dunno if it's nostalgia or what that keeps you fags from seeing this. Like prior to my rewatch, I hadn't watched ATLA in almost 20 years. The show is still amazing, don't get me wrong, but it does have issues and I think Season 1 is when those issues were at its worst. Where it really felt like it was just Saturday morning cartoon villain of the week tier, and I think that hurts the show because simplicity is the show's strength, not mindlessness. And I think S1 walked often into mindlessness with moments of Aang's main journey sprinkled throughout. From S2 on they got much, much better at doing what they do best: taking a simple story anyone can enjoy and telling it very well, and dropping some nuggets of wisdom like Iroh does. To me, a character like him is what SH is sorely missing.
>>156138873>How could you do that to your family?>I dunno Pavi. How could my family do that to me?
>>156139900I think the joke is that Mako is essentially useless and largely superfluous as a character. The only thing the poor bastard had going for him was his pretty face, and that's all he's got left.Bolin is useless too but he's the comedy relief buttmonkey so he never had anything going for him.
>>156139293>Better than expected?Certainly. Rough in some spots sure but better than I thought it was going to be going in. Needs some tighter dialogue and a better animation budget.
I would expect that people who were indoctrinated their entire life about how the avatar is the antichrist would show a bit of resistance to the idea that she's actually based but I guess not WHOOO GO AVATAR WE LOVE THE AVATAR WHOOO
>>156139962>but I'm pissed that they made him a little kid.>They'll have to make an avatar series mainly geared towards the people that grew up with it eventually, right?Paramount no likie that supposedly. Maybe if Waves and ASH do well enough they'll let the Fire Avatar after Pavi be older than 11.> Is he even supposed to know he's the avatar at that age?Yeah he'll apparently know but he hasn't completed his waterbending training yet.>What about his team?If you mean from the Kyoshi novels, they won't be in it, his 'team' for the show is going to be other waterbenders/NWT non-benders.
>>156139986>anon forgets the Avatar Day episode
>>156138484She’s Indian, nigga She will surely smell like curry 24/7
>>156139293It's a helluva departure from the previous series in terms of what they did to the setting. Pretty jarring, but the visuals for the world are impressive enough. Shame the animation quality doesn't do it much justice.The twins antics are definitely the best part, so it's a shame that they now have a wedge between them. I'm a bit soured about the season ending. Pavi's had a personality shift and they seem to be pushing this into the Pavi Show. This could all go Dragon Prince on us very easily. Or, hell, Voltron. I don't do social media, is there a horde claiming they character assassinated Jae's boyfriend or are people happier that he's single again?
Dude, she’s 9!
>Dunno' what age Wan became the Avatar proper but he looked 20s>Sonam seems to have been told when she was 16/a teen based on the novel summary>no data on Xian or Szeto>Yangchen knew since she was young because she kept getting possessed by her past lives>Kuruk will apparently know by the time he's 14>Kyoshi was told at 16 but nobody knew she was the Avatar and they thought some other guy was>Roku learned when he was 16>Aang learned when he was 12 because of the war>Korra found out when she was 3-4>Pavi and Nisha found out when they were 6 or youngerWe're gonna have bending newborns at this rate.
I wish there was a way to guarantee having twin daughters. I feel like twin siblings are the best kind of siblings.
Is Jeet a guy? The wiki page says yes but I don’t recall his gender being specified in the show. Also it took my like 10 episodes to figure out Ruhi’s name.
>ATLA took 3 seasons to master all elements>LOK...>SH...this is why new avatars shit
>>156139986I mean she punched the fuck out of the doom dome destroying the only known habitable spot in the region. She also went into a bending frenzy whipping civilians to safety left and right, and that really plays with the little guy.Considering Kayoko is likely outed as the reason behind the dome after she murdered a dude and dumped toxic spirit waste into the ruins beneath the city, the only big leader left is Karthik who no doubt is playing up the Avatars for all he's worth. Ellora has a council, but they don't seem to do much of anything.
>>156140039>and they seem to be pushing this into the Pavi ShowIt is the Pavi Show, they confirmed it in an interview that the story is mostly about her, but Nisha still has a huge part to play. I'm guessing she's going to be like Zuko in terms of importance.>>156140094Geet and Ruhi are girls.
>>156139964S1 is definitely when they're still finding their footing and there's still pure kid's show stuff happening from time to time. But even so, I still think it holds up shockingly well. I have a very hard time thinking of any of it as true filler, aside from the Great Divide. And I'm consistently entertained enough by the episode plots that I'm not dying from only modest progress being made in the overall plot. The breathing room to go on adventures is refreshing to me in comparison to something like ASH being so claustrophobic and breathless, while somehow not actually telling that much more story in that time.
>>156140078In vitro. Implant a bunch, depending on how many survive you could end up with a whole herd.
>>156140072If not for the toy thing, the monks knowing Aang was the Avatar would have been extremely weird.I do not mind the multi bending approach of Korra and 7H because that does make the most sense and being able to bend in a rudimentary way makes sense. The Avatar is still a person, it would not make much sense that just because the one we follow first, Aang, only learns (more like has mastered) one element by 12 it means everyone else has to be like him.And still, being a master airbender at 12 is fucking crazy.Also, there was doubt with Kyoshi because she was alive at the same time that earthbending dude that was doing crazy shit was alive.
>>156140100"Who wants to see the avatar go on a journey to learn more about themselves, the new world, pick up new friends and foes along the way? We already did that shit in atla, so lets fix what isnt broken and never do that again"-Bryke(probably), 2011
i think nisha should become a destroyer avatar
>>156139939Maybe seeing pavi being mean to nisha will be cute.
>>156140104It was the Pavi Show since the first hints of the series, back when it was just known she'd be traveling with Jae which didn't even happen until the last five minutes of the season. And I fear that will be the problem. People seem to really enjoy the two girls working together, Team Avatars, so Pavi getting chosen and Nisha being pushed aside will feel like bait and switch. Especially if Pavi's personality shift remains.Spending an entire season building things up in one direction only to do a rug pull. If season 2 is weaker than the first one (and it very well good be given who is running the show) on top of that things won't look good for the future of this series.
Yeah but dude…she’s nine
>>156140110The Kyoshi Island episode feels a lot like filler to me, as well as the Northern Air Temple but I can agree with you that even if I think it hurts the show because it goes from simple story (good) to just kiddy conflict of the week stuff (bad), it was still entertaining. I do think both ATLA S1 and SH ended on strong points though. I disagree with your take on SH feeling claustrophobic, and again I think the fact they left the Haven is a good think and they're going back to something that made ATLA such a memorable show: exploring the world. And again, SH and Korra didn't have the luxury of having seasons of 20 episodes where you could have what is in essence a sidequest show maybe twice in a row where a character gets to grow in some way. I think SH told a good, interesting story in 13 episodes, it made me care and become invested in the avatars, and I didn't roll my eyes at the faceless conflict and philosophy. I do wish Jae and Karthik were a little stronger and had more moments of growth, but I'll take adoring Pavi and Nisha for now. Also, thanks to my rewatch I think S2 of ATLA is the show at its best. Despite the episodic nature, every single show feels like its building up to Aang's main goal, Ba Sing Se was very interesting and I didn't mind the extended stay there, the stuff with Appa was very emotional. The Tales of Ba Sing Se is so good. Azula is a great new viilain. Just peak Avatar with great bending, the characters growing and plenty of emotional moments.
>>156140137Back in AtLA, there seemed to be more emphasis on actually having to learn a bit in order to bend at all. It was a skill that took time and effort. They've been lowering that threshold for producing useful results since LoK.
After Korra, the writers have made the bold decision to have the new avatars be literally 9 years old, allowing any criticisms of their actions to be easily hand waved away because they’re literally nine dude.
>>156140292Playing Devil's advocate, how is that not the case in the newer shows?Even normal benders have to know they can bend an element without any teaching, because then they'd go their entire lives possible without knowing they can bend. Korra's dad could have taught her water bending, his style was mostly using ice like an earthbender and that could have translated to earthbending.With the twins, the White Lotus test shows they aren't masters at all, it just shows they can bend all 4 elements. And in Aang's case, he doesn't struggle at all to waterbend to the point it's weird how he didn't do it all and technically he does it when he encases himself in ice while in the Avatar state.Jeong Jeong teaches him to breathe and to pose, stuff I'm sure he learned while airbending. Aang was bored out of his mind. He really didn't need to learn much in order to firebend right away.Earthbending was his only real struggle.
I have the suspicion this series is going to go full Dragon Prince. Decent world building at first but none of what is actually on screen manages to reach even the levels of the damn fan speculations, which is just sad. It'll also have very poorly thought out messaging because the people running the show are hacks who got lucky one time with the first series and consistently failed to match it despite numerous attempts. It'll all end in a massive wet fart.But, hey, maybe I'm just being cynical.
All I know is if didn’t see someone else shoot fire out of their asshole, I don’t think I would have ever attempted to shoot fire out of my own asshole. That’s all I’m saying.
>>156140361Congratulations, you're getting Karthik as the final boss using fartbending and you'll damn well like it.
>>156138729we didn't know how good we had it (or how bad it would get)
>>156140361>tfw you will never shoot lightning or fire out of your cock
Technically both Korra and Nisha spent more time actually learning the other elements than Aang did. He learnt the remaining three in less than a year.
>>156140383I think their point is more about the other Avatars being able to use the other elements seemingly at will with no training. Cue Korra bursting through the wall like the Koolaid Man and bending three elements at the same time. There is a difference between fully trained in an element and instantly being able to manifest it at all. Korra just weirdly lacked airbending. The girls, meanwhile, have the full set of elements but aren't fully trained yet. Nisha is further along than Pavi, at least until Pavi suddenly last minute levels up against the dome.
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>>156140324In a recent interview they said that anyone who didnt like korra was just a racist/sexist/homophobe as well. So maybe the reason they dumbed down ASH was so they could use the "it's just a kids show l" defense for when people call it shit this time
>>156140283>I think SH told a good, interesting story in 13 episodes, it made me care and become invested in the avatars, and I didn't roll my eyes at the faceless conflict and philosophy.I'll agree that they managed to make me care about the twins more than I expected, but I don't think the story of Ellora was very good as a wrapper for the twins' story. I just don't give a damn about the Faceless once their motives turn out to be so mundane and they're just kinda dicks. I don't care about the brigade because most of the characters therein are just shockingly flat for how much screentime they get. Kayoko isn't interesting as a villain, zero charisma. Her only truly memorable moment is killing that scientist guy simply because it's so out of left field. You could replace every single character in the show besides the girls and Karthik and I wouldn't care in the slightest.
>>156138710>cut the bindings on the manacles>manacles themselves also disappear
>>156140292>there seemed to be more emphasis on actually having to learn a bit in order to bend at allThat was not a thing for any character at all ATLA. The only reason Aang didn't easily pick up earth and fire in book one was because of his unique personality
>>156140402And yet I already explained Aang actually does water and fire bend basically at will. And he's a master airbender at 12. Korra calls herself a master of 3 elements at 16, but technically she didn't pass her firebending mastery test, and again, she's older than Aang. This is just revisionist history to justify disliking the newer stuff at its finest.
>>156139520Jae went around pushing them out of his ass before they started the jail break
>>156140436Only when exposed to people showing him. He did, however, do better than Katara at first with the water whip.
>>156138873>Nisha, how could you do that to your family... to me - your 9-year-old twin sister, Pavi?
Looking back it is kinda funny hearing that bryke being such divas had creative differences with shyamalan and the Netflix live action creators and walked off both sets. Both the movie and Netflix show were (terrible but) held to such an extreme scrutiny by bryke loyalist, but now when they get a new avatar show that has terrible writing they are have nothing critical to say about it.
>>156140448He did it again huh posing lmao
>>156140426Eh, I mean it wasn't anything spectacular, but I think Kayoko really made the faceless' point for them becoming such a fearmongering cunt. I disagree with the idea the brigade gets a lot of screentime to the point its disproportionate to how developed the characters are. Like when Yuki gets captured, I literally went>whoWhen Jae and the girls went around looking for them. Kayoko isn't a villain per se...more like the representation of the irrationality of fear. Like the ugly side of the root chakra personified. Aside from that yeah, I wouldn't die on the hill that the characters aside from the twins are good, Jae and Karthik had their moments but I wanted a bit more at least from them. I kinda have my doubts later seasons will do much for them but we'll see. For better or worse, SH is going to be all about the twins. For now, given how much I like them, I don't mind.
>>156140448>>156140498>she killed them again huh
>>156140473He fucking encased himself in ice in the avatar state, and used a fuckhuge watersprout in just episode 1, prior to ever seeing Katara waterbend.With that logic, surely Korra and Nisha/Pavi saw other benders, rendering the argument moot and hypocritical then.
>>156139507>Stringing viewers along with its mysteries and reveals, and hard hitting moments are its biggest strengths.No? On top of the fact that the show is predictable as shit its also so thoroughly unengaging.
>>156140547Oh sorry I wasn't aware the master of the universe was in this thread.
>>156140436>aang was a air master at 12 and spent a year learning the other 3>korra was a master of everything but air at 17 and spent what was probably a few months learning itAll avatars are natural benders that still need a teacher, but Aang's circumstances made him have to learn it earlier than most compared to korra in a time of peace. I also think that the "korra mastered things too fast" is bullshit too but theres plenty of reasons to dislike LoK.
>>156140532Also, Jeong Jeong never teaches him a progression from stance > breathing > bending. He gives him a fucking leaf to practice with and Aang firebends at will.
>>156140353>Even normal benders have to know they can bend an element without any teaching, because then they'd go their entire lives possible without knowing they can bend.That's sort of the point. In AtLA, it felt like you could go your whole life without knowing you're a bender just because you never had the opportunity to try. Like never learning you have a knack for archery because you never had a reason to pick up a bow. The fact that some people just don't got it even if they tried just adds to that feeling.Aang didn't learn waterbending on his own because it's a completely different skill from what he's learned. He picks it up quickly because he's the avatar, but he still needs someone to actually give him the starting point. Thus with earth, thus with fire.But then that's just not a thing anymore. Getting results from bending is just easier now. Bending is just something you can do instinctively and the skill aspect is just doing it better.
>>156140594>In AtLA, it felt like you could go your whole life without knowing you're a bender just because you never had the opportunity to tryIt never felt like that to me
>>156140532Avatar State is pure cheatmode, so it's pretty moot. Remember the Avatar State gives him access to all his past selves, to the extent that Roku even briefly took over Aang's body and wrecked an entire fire temple. It's just not a good argument to run with.
>>156140435And Roku only knew fire until they told him he was the avatar at 16. I guess he and Aang and all the other previous avatars were just stupid.
>>156140578The White Lotus guy straight up says she didn't master firebending. To be fair to both, it seems that at their young age they've only truly mastered one element: Aang air and Korra water. Still, the idea that the girl avatars are these special snowflakes because they can bend elements earlier than Aang could, but Aang "airbending master at 12" isn't, or that outright mastery over an element isn't impressive or snowflake shit at all is retarded.
>>156140594>That's sort of the point. In AtLA, it felt like you could go your whole life without knowing you're a bender just because you never had the opportunity to try. Like never learning you have a knack for archery because you never had a reason to pick up a bow. The fact that some people just don't got it even if they tried just adds to that feeling.Did you fags watch some alternate version of the original series? Or are you asking chatbots to generate you some bait?
>>156140552No I'm just right,
>>156140581Aang has seen plenty of firebenders in action, though, not just all of the troops constantly trying to kill him and his friends, but back in the day he used to hang with the hotmans, flameo. The leaf was also already burning, the lesson was to keep the fire on the leaf from burning to the edges as long as he could.
I hope we get more amow and pavi interactions
>>156140594I think it felt like that to you because there was the occasional subplot of how the Fire Nation would round up/kill any water or earthbenders they could find. Being any bender besides a firebender was rough during ATLA, but not the norm for the world setting. Especially since a lot of Fire Nation mooks were benders and the NWT's city basically relied on waterbenders to function.
>>156140616One guy being an outlier doesn't disprove anything. Especially not when said guy lives in an isolated nation like the fire nation.
>>156140608It's a great argument to run with actually, because then the earth nation general or whatever the fuck he was that wanted to force him to go into the Avatar state was right. Or, Roku could have simply told him>learn to control the avatar stateand finding Guru Pathik would have been the entire point of the journey, because even with all the elements at his disposal, he needed to enter the avatar state to stop Ozai. The argument that the girls are skipping steps or somehow better because they can bend but aren't masters is just extremely stupid. The goalpost has been moved a lot by this retarded argument.>>156140648Right, and again Aang was bored that Jeong Jeong was pussyfooting about. Katara at least demonstrates bending her element in its entirety. Jeong Jeong doesn't. And again, in both cases, Aang bends both elements basically at will. So no, you're not going to convince me that what the girls do is somehow special or diminishing what ATLA establishes, when Aang only struggles to learn earthbending. He literally shows Zuko he can produce a flame, he simply choses to not do so again because he burns Katara.
>>156140649I hope Amow has a boulder fall on her. Literally every scene she's in is about her being a thief or rat, she has no friends or loyalties, and her shtick got really old by her second appearance.
