its insane how much better this show could have been, even drama wise, if the creator hadnt falled head-over-heels for her precious little pet gay owl to the point of needing to dumb down every other character and turn them into 1D verisions of themselves in an effort to make him avoid the consequences of his actions
>>156133991Vassago raping Via would be amazing
>>156133978Lets admit that this show was going to be bad no matter what. The creator has always been a terrible writer even before she invented Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. Remember Zoophobia.
>>156134042We just hoped that she would have improved in a decade
>>156134077Some people genuinely will never improve no matter what.
>>156133978Octavia needs a good man in her life.
>>156134093that goes without saying
>>156134093>>156134104Canonically asexual.Not yours.Cannot have.
>>156134273asexual doesnt mean aromanticshe can still enjoy sex, it just means that she wouldnt be sexually attracted to you
People the subreddit saying it wasn't sexual coercion because Stolas's book was a "luxury item" and Blitzo could've just done assassinating in hell.Your rebuttal, anon?
>>156134300That’s retarded.
repostan the Via and Anon halloween greentext, hope you enjoyhttps://rentry.co/q63956ou
Octavia is a retard.
>>156134328I agree, but im not the one who makes the rules
To the one anon who watched or will watch The Last Man on Earth (1964) great taste! I watched Night of the Demon (1957) last night and really enjoyed it. Would recommend.
>>156134430Neither do they, wtf. How are you going to sit there and say "yeah I can have sex and enjoy it and have romantic partners but I'm asexual", you're not asexual unless you're an amoeba or a namekian or some shit.
>>156134273octavia is only asexual as a traumatic response to her horrible parents
>>156134469People can cum from being raped. Does that mean they enjoyed it?
>>156133978Vivzie doesn't seem particularly interested in sitting down and doing serious world building/lore, which people don't realize is a core component of making drama work. If the stakes and consequences of the world aren't clear, you can't really get that invested in what the characters are doing.Show is mostly hard carried by the character designs, which vivzie is very good at.
>>156134469Well, from what i understand>Asexual-feels no sexual attraction>Aromantic-feels no romantic attraction>Demisexual- doesnt feel sexual attraction unless hey have an emotional bond >Aroace- literally 0 desire for anything sexual or romanticI like to believe octavia is actually a demi, which by hell standards means shes just a normal person who doesnt want to fuck everything under the sun
>>156134328It's a mental illness that mentally ill teenage girls invented to explain why they weren't totally into having sex with the emo liberal kids they hung out with wasn't fun
>>156134512>asexuals will cum if you rape themOkay.
>>156134273This is correct. Birb is not for sex.Also from just a story-writing standpoint, why bother making her be asexual if you're going to pull the "Well, under some circumstances some times, like most all humans in history, I want sex."Feels like there's more conflict and interesting character to be had for an asexual character that just straight up doesn't want sex, especially in a world where characters seem to have sex at the drop of the hat, even in public.>>156134469>>156134537As someone that would say is "asexual", I've actually not understood the demisexual thing at all. Like, it's saying "I'll only have sexual attraction under a particular set of circumstances that need to be met." And it's like, yeah, that's every person ever. I'm going to assume a random normal straight guy isn't going to be sexually attracted to every woman he lies his eyes on. Certain criteria needs to be met for him to have that attraction.
Octavia is for intimate sex with a much older man.
Octavia is for having chains fly out of the walls to dig into her skin and slowly peel it all off.
>>156134581Astro, you gotta keep in mind that, at the end of the day, octavia is still a teen who doesnt really know what she wants or what she isHer calling herself ace(which she doesnt even do in the show afaik) could just be her labeling herself incorrectly as she doesnt have the experience and relationships to say with 100% certainty that she doesnt want to ever have sexYou gotta keep in mind that true aces are very rare, sex is intrinsic to the human condition(inb4 shes not human), it is as much part of life as eating or breathing, to not desire it, ever, under any circumstances is proof of something being terribly wrong with the individual in questionSurely even you have your sexual urges, you get off to fat stuff right? Dont you jack off to it?
>>156134633Pinhead...
>>156134779We have such sights to show you.
>>156134332Cute lil green.>>156134445I finished watching it, twas a good movie. If i have time tonight or maybe tomorrow I must find a site that has The Omega Man. >>156134668Indeed most who label themselves or are labeled asexual are just looking for attention, self-vindication or use it as a defensive/coping mechanism like how it should've been used in Octavia's case. Very rare does asexuality manifest. I think T. E. Lawrence is the best example of such a case, though I can't say for one-hundred percent sure.
>>156134668To answer your last question, of course. To that point, and it's not entirely wrong either, calling it "asexual" is a bit of a misnomer. I imagine there are very very very few people in the world, that for some physiological reason, can straight up not feel sexually motivated. But for better or worse, the colloquialism of asexuality reads more to the desire of actual sex.I'll explain my experience with it to for a point of reference. Sex has a lot of extracurriculars involved. Extracurriculars that are just outright off-putting even when you think about it. I couldn't say even one time I've ever been sitting around and imagined myself in that situation, nor have I ever really had the desire to do so, that would motivate one to bother seeking it out.Obviously it's me just projecting a lot onto Via herself because they could change things on a dime with her, but what I mean to say there is I very much understand the idea of just not wanting to have sex, so to have a character experience that isn't particularly alien to me.She should totally rub it to fat demons (or fat human men) though.>>156134633Chaining Octavia to a medieval torture rack and stretching her until she's as taller, or taller, than her dad... She's immortal so it's OK.
>>156134928Oh shit is this the halloween doodle?
>>156134928Loona would never do this to me, she would call me a faggot and then shoot me in the face with her glock
>>156134928Loona would do exactly this to me, she would call me a faggot and then throw herself straight onto my cock
>>156134953Yep
>>156133978I’m always expecting posts like this in the future. Except instead of this gay owl it’s going to be the about the ugly adulterous midget.
I think the magician would fit anon pretty well, what do you guys think?
>>156134928
>WHO THE FUCK ATE ALL MY HELL-O-WEEN CANDY!?
>>156135084>
>>156134581as another asexual i agree. having romantic feelings but no sexual desire is what society thinks women should be like anyway, it's not subversive in any way whatsoever
>>156135084>THAT'S WHAT YOU GET, YOU ATE ALL MY BREFFMINTS
>>156133978The gay owl needs to suffer more.
>>156134884Asexual isn't real it's just autists integrating self hatred over not being social touchy feely monkies into their self image to feel less bad about being autistic and teenage girls who have literally never met a genuinely attractive man (by woman standards, so an 11/10)
>>156134928halfdime my goat
>>156135234>Mention those Breffmints again and I'm gonna Scroooks!
>>156135290Breffmints.
>>156135244>Rem and kidtavia stealing slightly-older-than-them loona's candy
>>156135308>SCROOOKS!
>>156135250High functioning. Always declared myself straight. I have no clue what you are telling to say on the first part.
Cant believe we have to wait until 2027 to see the new, older octavia in casual wear
>>156134928Loona is for tricksOctavia is for treatsThat's some good Loona arts though.>>156135199As for as romance for Via, I figure she'd be interested in that. She's already shown to be desperate to be shown affection and is very touchy in how quick she is to hug others for comfort. So she'd definitely be on the romantic scale, which, to get no sex with that, definitely makes for a shallow pool of sex crazed demons to work with.>>156135250I do agree that most people who say they are "asexual" really aren't. The impression I get is that a lot of people feel that just because at this very moment of time in their life, they're not interested in porking half the population in a five mile radius of them, that they must be asexual. But it's otherwise something they have had in the past or have an interest in doing.
>>156135390>definitely makes for a shallow pool of sex crazed demons to work with.Which is why she falls in love with a human man
I defy you to tell me one wrong thing Stolas did this season.
>>156133978You seem upset by Vivs success
>people hate stolas so much they are now shipping blitzo with stellaHeh
Just caught up, where does the show even go from here? Why the fuck would it try and go back?
>>156135575He kept living
>>156135575As someone who actually enjoys the season for the most part and am by no means a Stolas hater, I'll give you an honest answer. The worst thing is that he does seem to be taking Blitz's generosity of giving him a place to stay and a job for granted. I feel like that should be prodded at a little bit more. Maybe Blitz suggesting Stolas move out if he's so interested in Vassago or something of that nature. Anything else around their relationship or his actions though, he's not obligated to reciprocate anything, as much as Blitz may want and beg for it.>>156135588As soon as people started suggesting this idea, it did get my gears turning. I honestly think that Stella would degrade herself so much that she would actually fuck Blitz, if it meant it took another jab at Stolas. That woman hates Stolas above all else in the world, even her own possessions, money and by that virtue, dignity.
>>156135363Autists who are revolted by any touching and basically don't do or enjoy kissing let alone foreplay. The kind that basically doesn't form bonds or miss people either. The frigid fucks. The robots. 100% most likely people to claim to be "asexual". But you know they're not because they have 5gb of furry porn and eventually get a girlfriend for like a month before getting bored of her. Unless she was the rare woman who actually just wants an unfeeling sex machine.Those are the men, at least, who call themselves asexual.Anyways why do people like octavia to the point of "waifu" when she has less actual personality than fucking loona? She has a handful of visual gags, an accent, and accessory character status to stolas. She basically exists to make him look better.
>Loona's entire personality:>aged out of foster care that was more like jail>goes on dates just to scam guys out of food>always on phone>highly impulsive>legit kinda dumb>momentary tryhard>struggles with everyday responsibility>mildly entitled>doesn't need weed to have the munchies 24/7>aspiring alcoholic>spaghetti-spiller>fragile self esteem>mean and gossipy>emotionally distant>struggles with polite speech and terms of endearment>gets louder and more confident (with insults and shit talk) in a group and around smaller people>octavia's entire personality>stolas>british accent>clumsy
>>156133978I mean is anyone really surprised with this after how hazbin season 2 turned out? It's pretty clear vivzie can't commit to all the things she sets up in these shows so you can't expect any real payoff with any of these plotlines. They're good shows to turn your brain off for like family guy but you have to be a teenager to get deeply invested in them
>>156135724
>>156135739>Anyways why do people like octavia to the point of "waifu" when she has less actual personality than fucking loona?In my case its her design combined with her situationI feel for her because i see my younger self a bit in her, alone, isolated, with weird interests and parents that hate each other but are forced to live together for one reason or anotherI just wanna be there for her, just the two of us against the world, having each other's backs no matter what happens
>>156134332This part of something?
>>156135849>>goes on dates just to scam guys out of foodWhen is this mentioned? I haven't seen shit past s2.
>>156135884based
>>156135739I don't call myself asexual, personally. But I am generally repelled by people physically and don't like being touched. I'm mostly attracted to furries and cartoon women. Some actresses too, it they may as well be fictional. Guess I probably have fucked up kinks too. But such is life. I accept it at this point because what else can I do?
>>156135739I wouldn't go as far to as "waifu" but she's my favorite character. There's some charm to be had in her snarky, asshole attitude she has about things. On top of the general, I relate to her in some capacity. There's also the sympathy points for her, in that everything going on around her is both not her fault and she also doesn't have the means to do anything about it to fix the situation, so it's easy to feel for her plight.I'm interested to see her character arc of coming to full maturity, that is realizing the personhood of her mom and dad and how she navigates that.And we also have a shared interest in astronomy, which is pretty cool. So all in all, I relate with her a lot and she deserves all the happiness in the world and underworld.
>>156135849What's goin on with her hand
>>156135915Yeah, thats how she gets stolas into the homo sex sceneShe introduces him to a dating app she uses to get free food out of simps
>>156136031she's turning translucent and vanishing because your meds are kicking in
>>156135891imagine that after getting to make a wish, you aged down and got a chance and she hated younot just that you're a human but your personalityand you had no idea because you had never even seen her personality until thenand the astral plane genie taking your consciousness for this ride is laughing at you from above
>>156136115Anon, considering how starved for attention and companionship she is, i doubt she'd feel that strongly about me, especially since i am not a cocky or arrogant guyI may have my 'tisms and quirks, but those arent that bad, i thinkYou'd have to be a really thin skinned, disingenuous piece of shit to get octavia to hate you
>>156136038I see. I know girls who did this IRL so I guess it's accurate when they are that hot.
>>156135575He didnt kill that slag, stella
>>156135849>left out the raging syphilis
>>156135937If aceshit is real than virgin or incel is a slur.
>>156136373She caught it twice, and the two forms of syphilis fought to the death
>>156136373The pilot isn't canon. Pilot stolas and loona are basically completely different characters with the same name/design.
Vassago used magic to mind control Via into forgiving Stolas
>>156136494I mean... would it even be surprising if he's evil?Its Hell.
What if octavia was asian?
>>156133978Honestly, both helluva and hazbin have so much missed potential. I think this is the only show where fanfictions on avrage are better then the original show. Its honestly somewhat impressive how they managed to mess up this bad, i mean realy impressive. Even before the shows came out, or after episode one, People made so much good ideas about what the show could do, but it simply ended up being lame with few unintentional kino moments
>>156135849looners got quiet
>>156135849>octavia's entire personality>stolas>british accent>clumsy>*owns a telescope (IMPORTANT)>*sarcasm (IMPORTANT!)>*no sense of direction despite being a bird (IMPORTANT!!)Octaviabros we have FIVE personality traits
>>156136960*SIXi'm bad with numbers
>>156136960Character development in S3 part 2, trust the plan
>>156135849>Loona hate post>AI slop picI'm noticing
>>156135084Moxie
>>156136900She can fix me (and step on my face).
>>156136900I thought Loona being a girl failure was part of the appeal
>>156133978I genuinely enjoyed the first season of H'B but holy shit it just gets INSUFFERABLY GAY and Melodramatic through the episodes,She been told a billion times aswell to stop using FUCK 6 times in every sentence it's extremely childish, but she never changes
>>156136900Many of us are busy, its halloween after all.
If Stolas has the funny bird legs and Stella has the funny bird legs, why does Octavia have normal straight legs?
>>156137255Stella fucked a random human and told stolas it was his
>>156137267But Octavia looks more like Stolas than Stella, and humans don't really look like Stolas
>>156137287She's literally just an egg with black feathers
>>156137255I used to think they were just shaped weird because of her pants. But she's in looser pants so maybe she does just have normal straight legs.I'm still confused why she's so much shorter than either of her parents...or her uncle...or her grandpa.So maybe she has a growth spurt yet.
Stolas looks like a fag.
>>156137329Stickbug
>>156137329So if Octavia were to be drawn undressed, it's best to assume she has the bird legs?
>>156137402ehhh maybe not. In "I will be okay" her legs bend like a human's.
>>156137329I mean, andre also has straight legs from what we've seen, right?It could simply be a recessive thing that she got from her mother's sideOr maybe she does have normal talons, but the boots she wears make her legs look like that
If octavia were human, what ethnicity do you guys think she'd be?>Inb4 bri'ishYeah, i know shes english coded, but that feels kinda cheapHer grandpa is older than the entire english people, it just doesnt make sense for her to be oneI think she should be some sort of semite, especially since her beak would translate into a sharp, pointy nose
>>156137697
>>156137125Oh my god she is literally me frfr!
>>156137755She looks like shes hopelessly in love with a duck sinner
So what was robo fizz's plan?Just take imp faces, stitch them on himself, and the some how get back to stardom now that fizz prime left it?Was he hoping mammon would take him in?
Continues to be right years later
>>156137755Since when did Queen Tyr'ahnee get a daughter?
>>156134537>Demisexual- doesnt feel sexual attraction unless hey have an emotional bondWhat's next? "Only-has-sex-after-marriage-sexual"?
>>156135739I have giga autsim but I cum from getting hugged and get goosebumps when my gf puts her hand on my arm
>>156137791>DuckAnon >VantTavia taunts him with a quack quack>>156138197>Stella in Queen Tyr'ahnee's attire and vice versa
Tryin something. Haven't drawn Octavia in a while, can't recall if I've drawn her solo ever. I love that one Loona standee where she's lifting up her shirt, so I'm more or less just using that as the primary reference for this. It's in the early phase right now, so much can change. Don't be afraid to be let me know how you feel.https://files.catbox.moe/xekbv3.png
>>156133978Didn't she start singing first?Why would she say that to him?
>>156138423Looks pretty nice anon!
>>156134328>>156134300it's a defense mechanism for ugly unwanted girls to cope with the fact no one finds them attractive.
>>156138423Looks nice.
>Straights: who in this show are you gay for?>Gays: who in this show are you straight for?Bifags do not answer.
>>156138764Not a girl, but as an ''asexual'' I can confirm this
>>156134512Objectively yes, to some extent. That’s the thing about the physical pleasure response, it gets to decide whether or not something feels good regardless of if you want it to or think it should. There are plenty of valid reasons to not want to do something even if it feels good, obviously including sex against your will.The issue is, when talking about sexual orientation, vis a vis “asexuality”, you are not describing complex motivated desires like “fear” and “bodily autonomy” that are more nuanced and complex than simple physical arousal. You are talking about literal simple physical arousal.>I do not experience sexual attractionIs a simple mechanical statement about how your brain responds to sexual stimuli. It’s not about whether you want to or whether you do it a specific way or whatever. It’s an is or isn’t question.>but but I’m a unique and beautiful snowflakeYou’re not and your generation is awful, just fucking awful. Do you experience sexual attraction, ever, under any circumstances? Congratulations, you are not asexual if the answer is yes. You are asexual if the answer is truly no (it probably isn’t unless you have a hormonal issue). Your “identity” is retarded we are making factual statements about your sex drive there is no shading or gradation here.
>>156137697the goetia are jewishstriker is a mixed-race neo-nazi and spends half his day browsing hellchan /pol/, complaining about goetia and the straight agenda (despite being straight himself)
>>156139034thats a sheriff badge
>>156138883same
>>156139068should we tell him brothers?
>the fag dad bag
>>156137697I could see her and Stella being Anglo-Indian. Andrealphus is a peacock, which are mostly from India. Plus, Britain and India have extensive history, so Stella and Octavia having a darker/warmer skin tone other than pale works imo.
>>156138423
>>156138793Stolas, Andre, Blitz, Fizz, and Striker.
What if octavia were scene instead of emo/goth?
