Is the animation industry really fucked or are animators just dooming for nothing?
lets be honestif corpo-slop is all animation isnothing of value will be lostHexed being the example
>>156131895Malfoid AI animations are unironically better than modern western animation unironically, but this isn't because AI is good. It is because modern animators are dogshit
Malfoid goys are so fucking pathetic kek
>>156131920>Malfoid goysThe irony of this post
malgoyim
>wow AI animation is so better than human made animation The human made animation in question: >>156127035
>>156131926Eat up the gender bent harry potter 12 year old gooood goy
>>156131920truth nukemalfoid is literally for inceloids
>>156131951>DRUMPF ParkOHNONONONO HAHAHAHAHAwe know that you're brown
>AI
>>156132005i’ve seen those ai channels.the animation is actually decent especially for furry content.scary
>>156131975t. FAG
>>156131953Seethe, soifag
>it's a youtube video thread
>>156132026You are that>>156131946Fuck off, fag
>>156132048Ha Fag
>>156132051Stop projecting
>>156132063Fagggggggg gay little harry trotter faggot
I can see maybe see indie animation saving the industry, like with said indie studios growing into big things over the years, but only if said indie animation studios learn to advance and take risks and stop pandering to tumblrities and Redditors. I don’t think they realize that making samey shit exclusively for tumblrities and Redditors is what killed the animation industry in the first place, they need to find lesser known talent that appeals to normal human beings if they want to last and be known as the GOAT of indie animation.Pic related.
>>156132078Keep crying,
>>156131895>western animators malding because anime ai slop makes better content than them
>>156132095Raped little faggot into looking cringe to own the libs award
>>156131895Animation in the west has been on life support since the late 90's because Americans hate art that isn't commercial Everywhere else it's fine because people are willing to subsidize art
I'm respecting these prompters more now that they're just straight up sayin "this is AI"They used to not respect their own craft, by desperately trying to hide the fact as to how they made it. Like, I don't care how good of a photographer you are, if you show me with photograph by starting with "check out this life painting I made", then I don't really care about the art anymore. You're just trying to swindle me. Respect yourself and what your doing, cuz I certainly won't if you don't.
>>156132040I'm a fascist and I drive a Hyundai Sonata.
AI slop and culture war outrage farming thread. Beware of bots and bad actors spreading negativity at a rapid fire pace for the purpose of making (you) feel miserable.
>>156132005>Vtuber complaining about AI slop.
>>156131895I genuinely don't care. studios can't create anything worth watching anymore and they also don't want to pay anybody to make anything either. AI is probably the only way we were ever going to get more animation at all anyway.
>>156132107Animated series can make tens of billions of dollars if the producers don't fuck it up
>>156132106You do the latter, lol
>>156131895Something you need to understand is that the animation industry is in crisis because the economy is shit, most major studios' balance sheets are fucked, and the vast majority of animation workers (somewhere around 70%) are freelancers doing what is essentially gig work. Productions are being curtailed, budgets are falling, and the first people to take the brunt of the hits are those freelancers, followed by low-skill and managment positions at the low and mid levels. Forget what the AI evangelists and jeets are saying about AI making whole cartoons through prompts, that's not how the animation industry actually uses AI, and keep in mind that executives are making wild claims to investors without any sort of idea how to implement an AI work pipeline that would come anywhere close to making those claims come true.tl;dr:>economy is shit>studio finances are fucked>talking about AI is an easy cover for massive labor cuts due to the first two points so you won't spook investors >AIjeets don't know shit about shit
>>156132107If we’re being real the mid-2000s is when the downfall began, the late 90s and early 2000s still gave us stuff like EE&E, Invader Zim, Teen Titans, etc., I feel like it was a combination of 9/11 and the 2008 financial crisis.
>>156131895I think hand crafted animation will always exist the same way other hand crafted art does, but it'll be a specific niche product rather than mass media. In the future illustrious and animation will be like classic cars. The guys who work on them will home their craft and they'll do it as a labor of love to share and sell to hobbyists like themselves. But there won't be a large audience for it. And most people will just see it as a funny niche interest. The majority of art for commercial and mass media purposes will be made by AI
>>156131895Aislop using anime as dataset makes it east origin and offtopic
>>156132189>no uI accept your gay little concession, lol
I don't think animation in the west will survive because there isn't really an "animation nerd" type of archetype in the west these days.Everyone who watches cartoons is just a consoomer, when they get bored they'll just move on to the next thing.It's not like eastern otaku where the rabid fans will go out and do all sorts of weird shit because they like a certain show/studio/voice actor.Most people who watch cartoons in the west will have no problem with everything just becoming AIslop, despite how the "enthusiasts" kvetch about it.
>>156132280Sneed
>>156131953>incellol, trannyrage
>>156132215For my thoughts, I doubt people will stop caring about craftsmanship, if there’s one thing people should learn from during this AI situation it’s to fight against AI by being original and unique.All the styles AI slop can replicate are generic shit like Pixar/dreamworks styled animated films, beanmouth shows, family Guy clones, modern anime, etc. It’s no wonder AI can replicate the most cliche and oversatured artstyles ever. Ask it to replicate an expressive style that requires human creativity like Ren & Stimpy or Ed Edd & Eddy and it comes out as a jumbled up mess, it likely would struggle to replicate artstyles of shows that are more niche in our current age.Photography didn’t replace painting, but it did contribute to the shift to modernism, giving us great artists like Salvador Dali who, rather than try to replicate reality, apply artistic principles to what’s depicting reality, so ideally, AI should pave the way for an age of artists trying to form their own unique identities rather than falling into cliches that’d make their shit be confused with generic AI.
>>156131895Well, the animation industry is fucked, but it's not because of AI. The complete inability to satisfy your average consumer is a much bigger problem and the main reason why most people have turned their backs on Western animation, in general, in favor of stuff like anime. Like, instead of actually trying to make things that would appeal to this audience, they refuse, and so yes, people are making AI "animations." I can't believe I have to say this but AI Malfoid art is not competing against your trans lesbian lore show. It's a different market that most animators already refuse to meaningfully provide for. If the viewers' needs were being met, this wouldn't be a conversation, but they're not, and it doesn't even matter because this won't cut into their viewership because those people wouldn't watch your stuff anyway.
https://youtu.be/4haW72dgVM8The yearning will continue
>>156132340Many anime and manga made after 2010 are very homogenous looking in order to appeal to the overseas demographic that craves generic shonens and moeslop like jingling keys, but normie weebs aren’t ready to swallow that pill.
>>156132340i bet this person complains about homophobia when people simply don't want to watch a show about brown lesbians.
>>156132351Cringe
>>156131953Mad that no one wants your gaping flesh wound.
>>156132394Stfu
>jap-kinomation: here is my anime about a BOY who has SEX with a bunch of WOMAN its basically a cartoon where all my deviant sexual fetishes are on display and other boys like to watch it>west-slopmation: you can't havea white boy in your cartoon or good animation or anything creative really here take this $100 dollar budget and go make a cartoon about a black girl struggling or a white girl who got abused by men or something
>>156132407Tranny cope
>>156132452Lol, you are pathetic
Let's look for the problems in the credits of fairly oddparents new wish>1 story artist>2 staff writers>2 background artists>2 background painters>4 story revisionists>5 archivists>6 executive producers>14 jobs involved in managing and recording the voice actors>8 middle managers in coording the staff>a chain of 8 more managers and vice presidents leading up to head of nickelodeon animationMeanwhile 00s cartoons had the same crew size but with 5 managers instead of 5 artists
What blow up now. Somebody's stock value must have collapsed cuz here we get the AI threads again. It's so God damn predictable
>>156132340>but they're not, and it doesn't even matter because this won't cut into their viewership because those people wouldn't watch your stuff anyway.Yea, I don't know if a lot of the gay theater kids who watch cartoons these days realize that the audience they're currently seeing is the peak audience for cartoons.They spent the last decade telling everyone who was not a gay theater kid to fuck off, so they did.A few of them might stick around for the few rare cartoons that DO appeal to them (a good example being Space King), but other than that they just don't care, cartoons have got the audience they always wanted, and it's the only audience they'll have from now on.
>>156132458Yes, Mr Sherman. Everything is tranny.
How the hell did Harry Potter became popular amongst chuds? This is especially odd because chud were complaining about their hobbies being infiltrated by women and queers yet they’re doing the exact same thing they’ve criticized. Infiltrating a community that largely made of women and queers. not sure about the queer part since JK Rowling started to criticize the trans movement but the point being this is all pretty ironic coming from the chud crowd
POTTAH!!!
Anyone who hates this is a fugly autist and I'm glad AI makes you inhuman losers seethe.
>>156132631>Infiltrating a community that largely made of women and queers.Anon, all the queers left of their own volition because they hate JKR now, and a significant proportion of those queers were straight women who LARP as queer for brownie points.This was less an invasion and more just one of the kids in the group fucking off because they were mad about something and one of the other kids inviting their brother as a replacement.
>>156131895It's been four year since they started with the AI thing and the only big thing it has actually made is Italian Brainrot, which is basically the image generator mashing random shit together in the most generic way possible. Personally I don't feel threatened by any of these "big advacements" in AI animation because they're all shit without personality, and knowing myself they would fire me for the slightest suggestion to give it something unique.
>>156131895>malfoidtranny shit for fags
>>156132631In Book 5 Harry starts a militia dedicated to training the kids for war and names said militia after an exiled leader.
>>156132691It's the complete opposite actually.
>>156132666Did you not read the last line of text where I’ve just said that?
>>156132702cope
>>156132691trannies are actually in a tizzy because they can't co opt it due to it being Harry Potter related
>>156131953A majority of trannies are incels by the way. Stop projecting
>>156132691Trannys are seething about it because of Rowling
>>156131895Animation is all labor, it's basically on the verge of being a technic like engineering. It's never been a good medium. Hardly any animation today can even be considered an art.
>>156132394I agree partially with what you're saying. Like, the main reason why we don't get as much stuff from niche genres or even bigger genres, like proper shojo, anymore is because the Western market just completely shit the bed.I'm reminded of this stupid video that was going around a few months back of a AT cosplayer complaining that there aren't enough female main characters in anime, with the cosmic irony being that the thing she's dressed as basically ushered in why we don't get any meaningful ones anymore. It sucks man.
>>156132695Harry was tortured by a government employee who was sent to the school to police the speech of the students and teachers.The press in HP was forced to print the official government version and Harry was punished for speaking out
>anti-white commie garbage made by trannies and DEI kikes will be gone! we will have endless isekai harem porn slopshit made by jeetniggers instead, animation is saved!I just want WW3 to wipe the planet at this point
>>156132806Kill La Kill was transcoded as fuck.
>>156132786Then why the hell are you on /co/ in the first place?
>>156132026Mad that you got called out, feces skin?
>>156132786Scram
>>156132834Kys, projecting fag
>>156132821Your wish is unrealistic because no one actually wants to use the nukesThey just wanna have them hang around to look cool and pretend like they're a threat Really they never wanna bring them out the silo because of how expensive they were
Malfoid AI animations are better than every cartoon from 201X and on.
>malfoidbleh I rather have Cassandra
>>156132890I like your tears
>>156131895anime just completely took over the animation scene, there is no reason to watch westernslop when you can go watch anime instead
>White character, blonde hair>from a family that prizes a pure bloodline>explicitly racist>Joins an army that wants to start a race war>Her family owned at least one slaveClearly a trans champion - these are all things that trannies love
>>156131953Malfoid is fine as a concept when you don't turn it into an anime romcom plot. It's when you start turning Harry into a harem protagonist or genderbending other characters (like Ron) that the concept starts turning into low-grade garbage
>>156132631I feel like people put to much stock into chud as a "movement." Like 90% of this isn't nazis or groypers it's just average internet users getting excited cause a cute girl with a dynamic they liked got posted. It's just Pacifica x Dipper with extra steps.Also you should probably stop using that world, because it's kinda just been co-opted by teenagers and ironic lesbians to mean "a silly little guy."
>>156131895Yes, thank AI and Indians.
Let's go back to 1990 when this is all the cartoons you got, one day a week8:00am ALF Starring in ALF Tales 8:30am Camp Candy 9:00am Captain N: The Game Master 9:30am The Karate Kid 10:00am Smurfs (double block)11:00am The Chipmunks 11:30am Saved by the Bell 12:00pm ALF Tales 12:30pm Kissyfur
>>156132951Better than shows like Tranny Time, Pedo House or Sissyven Fagverse
>>156132930Go suck your pacifier
>>156132959I don't know if you're saying owl house or loud house
>>156132959Nice seething, fagtard
>>156132963
>>156132943These days "chud" can mean anything from "racist neo-nazi who wants to kill all brown people" to "normal person on the internet who doesn't throw a hissy fit because JK Rowling doesn't like trannies."Niggas were trying to call the artist who drew pic related a chud because she deleted her bluesky account because trannies there were harassing her for drawing this dumb art trend.Hell, these days people pretty much call every Asian artist who doesn't hate themselves a chud.
>>156132842>le why are you here then argumentBecause I cared about animation deeply at one point in my life. Animation is hard to defend because of how lowbrow and unoriginal it is to itself. It's all adaptations of existing works. Even film has more original pieces then animation has. Sure you can consider early animation to be highly original (which it is) but ever since Disney started adapting fairy tales, the medium has been in a horrible decline. No one truly cares what the animation says, so long as it's some pretty eye candy to stare at. It also always has to sell you something. It's junk. Animators are also stuck up, effeminate faggots who are worse then theater or band kids. They will always complain how they get fucked over more then other artists in different mediums.
>>156132635
>>156132959based
>>156132975Works for both.
>>156132980That’s you
>>156132951The 90s decade had a large variety of cartoons made and many places to watch them. Broadcast kid blocks didn't disappear just because Nickelodeon started, it gave kids more of a choice. Now kids have a larger variety of what to watch, but 99% is algorithmic shit, because the algorithm now is what gets kids attention, not a limited amount of channels. We were happier with less.
>>156131895It's fucked but not because of AI.Just how western manufacturing didn't die because of China.It's a symptom not a cause.
>>156132943i think it's because of how invasive and obnoxious troons have become, it just becomes a joke to steal their own content and label it as right wing/chud. half of the posts on /pol/ are of little of anime girls saying racist things.
>>156133001Nope, you fag
>>156133015>i think it's because of how invasive and obnoxious troons have becomeI agree.So are people who won't shut the fuck up about them, but I'm sure you have excuses why you have to care about them more than they care about themselves.
>>156132997Wholesome. Look how it mogs every tranny show.I would watch AI gen Malfoid content all day over half hour of the new Jeet Avatar show
>>156133015>half of the posts on /pol/ are of little of anime girls saying racist things.I mean, that's not really anything new, people have been doing that with anime since the dawn of forums and imageboards when people could first start easily attaching images to their posts.
>>156133055i was simply replying to someone who had already brought them up
>>156131895AI slop will affect indie productions much more than Disney. Oh no, what will happen to my therapy-speak toy commercial that's supposed to be the future of all indie animation now? The future will be solo creator-produced shows where AI will be at the same quality as the best output in the industry, and the creator will be fully rewarded for their effort instead of being forced to sell their IP to corporations. Creators have been getting screwed since the beginning of animation. Look at what happened with Otto Messmer, the Felix the Cat creator. Things were never good or just in the industry.
>>156133058Good for you, why aren't you watching those?
>>156132959Captain N created the nintendofags who made those shows
>>156133082I already did. Had more fun than watching garbage shows like Tranny Time
>>156133058It's always AI vs random dogshit nobody is watching with you guys instead of comparing it with something actually good
>>156133101>something actually goodI mean, he just compared it to something currently airing, but I agree, there's nothing good currently airing.
>>156132394They look like that to appeal to Japanese audiences.
>>156132005Sorry, the bong dog girl is cute so his argument is invalid.
>>156132520>Somebody's stock value must have collapsedChina's did.
>>156132213The 90's was the first big blow to animation budgets: the rise of dubbed anime
>>156133073>i was simply replying to someone who had already brought them upPeople should be in a happier mind state, as if they don't exist. If you run into something that references them, stop watching and watch something else. There's a lot of stuff out there in the indie space that don't reference the subject. We should be promoting those works instead of pointing out media that references them. Don't give them publicity, give publicity to good media that could really use it.
>>156131895The industry has been fucked for decades, and today’s industry animators are its deranged mental cases running a malfunctioning asylum.AI will easily create a return to real animation focused on actually BEING animation, like classic Disney, Looney Tunes and Richard Williams. While recent industry product is an incestuous mess by its major artists who want to dictate culture, not tell stories. VivziePop goes onto Twitter and dictates how people are supposed to experience her art after blocking a gazillion people who didn’t want to play along with that gay crap, and her self-fanfic tier work is the best it can currently do.Hell, this video game concept is so close to being key frames of an animation and I didn’t even ask for that
>>156132987>people Lol
>>156133094Then why are you still talking about it?>>156133132That kicked off in the late 90s with Pokemon in fall of 98. Most of 98 was still focused and heavily invested in western animation.
>>156133101>something actually goodFor example?
>>156133151Because I want to remember the average /co/mblr tranny how AI is replacing them
Name current thread shows that looks better than Malfoid AI animations.
>>156133158Indie animation playlistshttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRBlcw1Eboc-0aT_U-AaiUehHtmYgbbIIhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS3xE20gCCmhbOqvz-xPBWPBX0WwRhMbehttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_rb_i2LqvxunEgLek58LhemuKAxnppZVHere's hundreds, there should be one that clicks with you, that could use the exposure instead of bitching about shitty shows and trannies. Find one.
>>156133158Aeon Flux
>>156133207> that could use the exposureSo you’re frustrated with cartoon fans being actual humans instead of autistic media slaves who put “WATCH #____” in their Twitter name.Yeah id rather live a full life with friends and family and a nice career and no cartoons than enjoy cartoons with people who want to diminish me like this.I don’t give a damn about giving anything exposure. I only care about authentic opinions. I am not an unpaid marketing worker.
it's truly over
>>156132932Malfoid written as a pure genderswap is fine and reveals a lot about how we perceive bullying behavior according to gender. The problem is that most Malfoid stuff is an OC girlfriend for Harry wearing the name of a an existing character.>>156133081AI evangelists are going to quickly realize that no one is going to pay for their AI output because 1.)everyone is going to assume, rightly, its of poor quality, and 2.)they can make it themselves just as easily. No barrier to entry means no barrier to competition.
>>156133207One of the top comments from your vids
>>156133268>So you’re frustrated with cartoon fans being actual humans instead of autistic media slaves who put “WATCH #____” in their Twitter name.Because we've discussed this topic to death and it's accomplished absolutely nothing in improving cartoons in the west. >Yeah id rather live a full life with friends and family and a nice career and no cartoons than enjoy cartoons with people who want to diminish me like this.Because this is a cartoon discussion board and all you're focusing on is the negatives instead of helping people trying. >I only care about authentic opinions.Then watch something you like and tell people why you like. It's not hard unless you enjoy being a miserable piece of shit, which I think accurate.
>>156133329Then don't watch that one. Choose another from the hundreds on the list. Why are you focusing on something you think is shit instead of giving something you might like a chance?
>>156133319>The problem is that most Malfoid stuff is an OC girlfriend for Harry wearing the name of a an existing character.believe it or not, that was the primary purpose of TG art originally
>>156133355>just keep eating the shit until you enjoy the taste
>>156132204makes sense, economy has been failing for some time now and the coof did not help at all
>>156133339> Because we've discussed this topic to deathNo we haven’t, you swindler.I show new ways to make your projects with AI every time. You’re stuck in the past when people were trained to be slaves of a now completely irrelevant industry.
Original indie design
>>156133385>just keep eating the shit until you enjoy the tasteYou intentionally chose one video out of hundreds because you think it would give you an excuse to talk about politics. I don't know which one, because guess what? I didn't choose the video because I knew I wasn't going to like it. There's hundreds more, just fucking find something that seems interesting and watch it.Why is it hard to encourage people on /co/ to discuss something they like when there's a large variety out there? What is wrong with people?
>>156133410Then make your AI cartoon instead of talking down to people who won't watch it. Why do you care?
>>156133431>You're always comparing AI to something nobody is watching (Nu Avatar), why not compare it to something good?>Such as?>Here's a list>...>NOOOO! You can't pick things on the list that are shit, you must dig through the pile of filth to find the diamond that is there I totally swear!!!
>>156133431>Why is it hard to encourage people on /co/ to discuss something they like when there's a large variety out there?NTA, but I can answer this because it's something I've personally dealt with on /co/ over the years.The short answer is, people who watch cartoons lie.Like, constantly. You cannot trust someone who says they like X cartoon to be truthful about the content of what they watch or why they like it because 9/10 times the reason they like it is because it appeals to their preferred fetish/politics/beliefs.They also suck at explaining why they think something is good because deep down they know that their tastes tend to veer into "theater kid" territory, which here on 4chan generally just means "faggot territory."Personally I tend to veer away from recommendations on /co/ because my tastes don't really align with modern /co/, when I come across a cartoon I enjoy it's usually just one that I came across of my own volition since most of the stuff /co/ talks about I don't find interesting.That said, anon did ask for an *example* and you decided not to provide one and instead did the equivalent of "find one, I'm not doing the research for you."
>>156133478>It's too hard to scroll and click on a thumbnail of a cartoon that I might like and ignore the other ones I don't like. Then share the cartoon I watched which could help the author get more views to help it not spend eternity in a mountain of shit. Nope, not gonna help the situation at all because I am stupid.
>>156133452>literally put my game build process in your face>ERM MAKE A CARTOONQuit trying to sodomize me you faggot. Keep things going into their proper places: I am a game creator showing people how to use AI for ANY type of art.
>>156133531>You must watch every video on the list I provided>Do your own research>Stop using my own recommendations to prove me wrong!!!
>>156133544>I am a game creator showing people how to use AI for ANY type of art.Nobody's stopping you. You don't have to be a bitch about it, just make your shit.
>>156133549Why do we have to babysit and coddle you just because you're too lazy to practice a talent? Every ai thread is just ai people trying to gaslight us into liking ai when it just isn't most people's thing.
>>156133549>You must watch every video on the list I providedI never said that. I said scroll though the list, look for a thumbnail that looks interesting, click it. Watch and if it's not good then go back and find another thumbnail that looks interesting. Then share something you liked watching. Scrolling through the list and finding an appealing title and thumbnail takes less than 20 seconds. A three year old could do that. Are you that fucking lazy or lack the attention span to do that? If so there's no helping you. Be miserable. I hope I helped you.
>>156133319>Malfoid written as a pure genderswap is fine and reveals a lot about how we perceive bullying behavior according to gender. The problem is that most Malfoid stuff is an OC girlfriend for Harry wearing the name of a an existing character.Men and women are different, autist. They're not interchangeable.
>>156133605I don't want to watch gay shit though
>>156132987A chud is a white guy acting the way everyone else expects him to.
>>156133626>Men and women are different,in specific ways retard there's nothing remaining of malfoy in malfoid ther's no point in using malfoy as a base for this shitty character
>>156131895AI will kill some animations jobs and invent a bunch of new ones.
>>156132351based skyebrows enjoyer
>>156133638Then what do you like to watch? Forget the list. Tell me ANY cartoon that you enjoyed watching. You don't have to explain why. Just say the name of a show. Any show.
>>156133626Are you implying that Draco wanted to fuck Harry?
>>156133668Like what
>>156133726They never explain the new jobs and in the rare chance they do, it always ends with a negative net sum of the amount of jobs.
>>156132093I agree with you, but most young indie animators don't want to appeal to anybody but tumblrities and Redditors
>>156133663>there's nothing remaining of malfoy in malfoid ther's no point in using malfoy as a base for this shitty characterYou're missing the point. This is why autists shouldn't have opinions.
>>156133761you don't have a fucking point retard
There'll be so much horseshit to sift through that you'll get to be a professional horseshit sifter like Asmongold
>>156133695>Are you implying that Draco wanted to fuck Harry?Learn some reading comprehension.
>>156133755>most young indie animators don't want to appeal to anybody but tumblrities and RedditorsPeople should try to appeal to themselves first. Make the kind of show they'd want to watch. Otherwise you're just checking a bunch of boxes in hopes of attracting the audience or an algorithm.
>>156133768Because you're too retarded to get it. Know your place.
>>156133425Steven Universe did irreparable damage to the industry
>>156133681Space King
>>156131895It's been in shambles ever since streaming took off and fundamentally changed the business model built around cable TV.I don't think it's "dead", it's just getting overhauled and way too many fucking people in the industry are upset because: >they don't really have anything to fall back onto>they think doing a non-creative job is beneath them>they don't want to hunker down and do comics for a living>they don't want to lower their prices and actually come to terms with the reality that very few people can make a living off of art aloneThat last point is why a lot of American artists throw a shitfit when you bring up paying foreign artists to draw stuff for you for a fraction of the cost and in less time. Foreign countries still understand the social contract of art in that it is ultimately a service job. A patron pays the artist and the artist does what they are told. In America, we've somehow developed the notion that drawing is a common luxury good. It is not.
>>156133785>People should try to appeal to themselves first. Make the kind of show they'd want to watchThen you get something like that PS1 troon toon because these people are total weirdos who don't know what normal people like.
>>156133790>Know your place.says the malfoid tranny
>>156131895AI is not getting better at animation. Drawing is not the hard part of animation, it's the tedious part. Pacing, framing, and weighting are things AI can not do, and they're the hard part because the retards who are entertained by the animation equivalent of jingling keys aren't even aware that they're things to be concerned with. As evidenced by the truly fucking awful attempts at AI comics that have been posted on this board.
>>156133802Thank you for mentioning a cartoon that you like watching.
>>156133837Troons hate Malfoid. Nice try.
>>156133840Meant for >>156133830
>>156133840I don't care what they think. Neither should you.
>>156131912yeah but shit like Hexed are the only thing thats being made now
>>156133834Yea, I don't think I've seen any AIslop with interesting framing or "direction" (if you can even call it that), it's pretty much all been very generic.Hell, most of the time it's just ripping off Family Guy's artstyle, which is the most uninspired and generic thing one could possibly do in animation.
>>156131895Not just animation. Pretty much every single office job is due to be automated by AI soon. Entry level jobs are already replaced by the AI. If you don't think you could be replaced by the machines, then you are living in a bubble.
>>156132340A lot of anime characters are stateless.
>>156131895We'll find out next week
>>156133840do goyim really?
>>156133796Actually it was Tumblr.
>>156133876I'm sure this has changed now that it's the same thing but more expensive.
>>156133876>"AI is replacing jobs already">How do you know?>"AI told me"Bruh
>>156133840>Troons hate Malfoidlet me guess a couple randos on twitter such conclusive evidence
>>156133888>INTC -29.11%Kinda burying the lede there.
>>156133905The only actual uses I've found for AI are basically just using it as a slightly less retarded Google search, since actual Google search is fucking dogshit these days, and using it for tech support like finding ways to pull the data off of my old phone when the screen broke.
>>156133914>let me guess a couple randos on twitter such conclusive evidenceA Jap artist got bullied off of Bluesky for drawing Malfoid. That and they're all calling it transphobic and are trying to co-opt for themselves but are always met with pushback by fans.
>>156133931I have bad news for you then.
>>156133931Oh it has tons of great uses actually. Only issue is most of those uses are illegal.
>>156133950>A Jap artist got bullied off of Bluesky forso the like 10 people who use bluesky
>>156133950Good. More artists should be bullied off sites because of Malfoid.
>>156133357You are the troon
>>156133984She just starting posting exclusively on twatter instead.Like 2/3 of her posts in the last few weeks have been malfoid.
>>156131895Animation is fine, you're a bunch of doomposting nerds.
>>156131912Let’s be honestAI animation is all corpo slopYou thought brown lesbians was bad before? Get ready to be the only thing you’re allowed to generate when they outlaw open source AI. You’re still getting hexed regardless
>>156133950Because JK Rowling is transphobic, so Harry Potter is, by extension, transphobic and so is supporting it by drawing fanart of it.Zillennials are going through kind of an identity crisis about it because when the HP books came out they were insanely popular, like Lord of the Rings popular. And then Rowling comes out as a chud that hates them and everything they stand for.
>>156133984Kys, crybaby >>156133895Accept your defeat
>>156134027>And then Rowling comes out as a chudNo, just a leftist TERF
>>156134051She's a billionaire. There are no leftist billionaires. If they were leftist they wouldn't be billionaires.
>156134030Pathetic loser
>>15613409>unironically believing thatLol, lmao even
>>156134108You are that but keep crying anyway
>>156134051>anti trans>leftistSure
>>156134114Neoliberals are not leftists, but they pretend to be.
>>156134133Yes
>>156133950>Character is male to female>More beloved after transitioning>TransphobicAm I missing something? That seems like a slam dunk pro trans message.
even without AI they totally fucked themselves with incessant nepotism and favoritism, the days of being an artist with zero entertainment experience with a good cartoon idea getting a pilot is gone, and entry level positions that require no skills but good drawing ability are practically gone, or even when they do come up, too many people want the same job and it ends up going to the person who knows who's responsible for hiring personally to come extent. fuck em honestly. most new animation is so bad anyway, the animation quality keeps getting cheaper along with the writing and story. there's too much focus on realism, therapy talk, and trying to make something "significant", and kids don't like that, but instead of seek new voices for new cartoons, the dumbass retards with money just threw up their hands and came to the conclusion kids don't care about cartoons anymore. I hope they all end up in the street just so I can spit in their change cups, beat them up, and rob them of everything they have without recourse
>>156134152Don’t project your delusions
>>156134152It's not transitioning if it's an AU. The character was born female.
>>156132340>brown haired white boy has silly adventuresDude what fucking planet do these motherfuckers come from? We all grew up watching the EXACT same shit so what fucking brown haired white boys are we talking about that were a major lead in any cartoon? There are only fucking two of em and that was Jimmy Neutron and fucking FOP(I would mention Gravity Falls but that bitch is my age nearing the end of HS hardly counts as growing up with it). Otherwise we got shows that are more mascots then anything like Spongebob, Chowder, Powerpuff Girls or if were looking at more action cartoons it was Teen Titans and Kim Possible and American Dragon, the list goes on and fucking on. Like despite how much faggots on here complain about fucking DEI and muh browns or whatever, the late 90's all the way up to the 2010's had the most diverse line up of ANY other fucking era. It legit stopped once Adventure Time came around and it wasnt even that shows fault moreso the fact that the amount of cartoons just fucking decreased so fucking dramatically at that point in time.I hate this fucking Main Character syndrome that these fucking CALARTs fags have developed like holy fuck how was are upbringing so fucking different that they fucking missed all these other fucking shows(the answer is she knows that shes just pulling a narrative out of here ass)
>>156132394I'm the one reading all those shounen romances with 9-15 year old boys dating girls their age too.
>>156134097no no no anon, there are good billionaires, they're the ones who make my favorite things and could never think to deprive them of the spoils of their success. but those evil billionaires driving up food, housing, and healthcare costs, they deserve to get deprived of their wealth and put into prison. but not my favorite billionaire though, they're cool
>>156132340What fucking order am I supposed to read this shit in
>>156134244Now hold on I was told it was the illegal immgrants driving up the cost of housing by taking all the low paying jobs and buying all the houses. Somehow.
>>156132818The feds and the media are two heads of the same ugly beast, brother. Ugly like the house elves who prefer slavery to freedom as a rule.
>>156134238Ahh, puppy love.
>>156134286It is
>>156134323So is it just like one guy taking all the mcdonalds jobs or how's that work?
>>156131895Get woke go broke.if you don't want to give the audience what they want, they will find someone else to do, even if that means replacing artists with AI.
>>156134393Just make the artists work on better shows.
>>156134168>the days of being an artist with zero entertainment experience with a good cartoon idea getting a pilotWhen were those days? Before the political clique it was a clique of credentialism
>>156132631>How the hell did Harry Potter became popular amongst chuds?Dude what the fuck has happened that people have painted HP with some dumbass political brush to the point that people just forget that it was one of the most successful movie/book franchises of all fucking time? You dont get that kind of shit by making something either so far fucking right or so far fucking left, it was just a fucking popular childrens book/film franchise first and foremost. Like even if you were to believe that JK Rowling was either a leftist femi-nazi or a hard coded rightoid when she was making these books, the odds are that in EITHER scenario trans issues were never and I mean NEVER a major source of discourse until that one guy from that Kardashian family started calling himself a woman. Even the most leftist blue haired fat fuck of a commie cant fucking deny that(and would also tell you that was a problem but I digress) So odds are that whichever way you read JK Rowling leaning towards, odds are she like a bunch of other people she never actually had to think about trans shit until around the same time everyone else did. And these are the same people who bitch about media literacy too, CONSIDER THE TIME PERIOD DAMN IT! THERE IS NO WAY TO READ THESE FRANCHISE AS SHITTING ON TRANS OR NOT CAUSE THAT WASNT A MAINSTREAM THING YET! Normies(especially in the US) are gonna read this franchise the same as they always have, even if they know JK hates trans cause there is no way to read the text as anything other then kid shit.TLDr ITS POPULAR WITH CHUDS CAUSE ITS UNIVERSALLY POPULAR
>>156134536Young adults
>>156133544your game looks like mobile shovelware and isn't reflective of anything you or the AI had put in those "concepts".
>>156133141>Hell, this video game concept is so close to being key frames of an animation and I didn’t even ask for thatTry not to think too hard about whether the AI actually needs your input, or whether your expression comes through it's work.
Turntables
>>156131895AI can do animation more frequently than artists. It's gonna get to a point where shitty tumblr artists are gonna have to actually try or get replaced by AI. Profits over woke.
>>156132394People keep saying it look homogenous since the 90s, despite Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball, Slayers, Berserk, Crayon Shin Chan or Nube looking nothing alike. We've been over this for literal decades.
>>156134426Yeah, you re right and honestly I don't think it'd be too difficult, they can even take advantage of this trend, i mean how hard can be to just create a Harry Potter spin off animated series about a romance between a Gryffindor boy and a Slytherin girl?
>>156133834This is some real own-fart sniffing nonsense. You must be so proud of your art degree now being rendered of little value due to AI. (Especially since the main point of it was connections.)People don’t like cartoons for “Pacing, framing, and weighting” (the fuck is weighting? Where is weighting in 101 Dalmatians? Must be some term for cgi cartoons I never really liked), they like them for story, characters, action, humor, visual creativity.You people won’t say anything about that since you don’t want to see random people starting their own series. You want them to be crew-cucks who can’t do anything solo.
>>156133897They're both the same thing, let's not lie to ourselves.
>>156134670Annoying cheese pizza lover
>>156134626It has a memory and reference files you braindead retard, it doesn’t operate as a fresh subscription does.>>156134606You sound like one of the faggots who just harassed me on /v/ and 1. You are a social miscreant 2. Gay people have a perceptive disability preventing them from understanding things their gay social groups don’t talk about.
>>156134502What a Cartoon! Show and Oh Yeah! Cartoons.
>>156134710This can't be a real post.
>>156134536Was this the final movie poster that was handpainted and not just photoshopped actor heads?
>>156134821Trust me, it is
>>156134670>muh culture warYou’re part of the problem
>>156134821>>156134845>no actual response, just gayly downplaying feeling stunned Ok buddy boys, try to keep your nether regions away from each other and skedaddle.
>>156132040Who gave you a screenshot of my feed
>>156134907Anthony, you molested your own niece
>>156134937Hope that’s bait
>>156134948>baitit's callefd a joke. not everything has to be a ghotcha or a stealthy way to make others angry
>>156134643>Rowling is Satanic>Rowling is pro-gay>Rowling is fake pro-gay>Rowling is a feminist lib>Rowling is a TERF>Rowling is DEI.JK Rowling is the only person who's had all four corners of the chart mad at her at some point or another.
>>156134891>if you're against woke you're the culture warFunny how bootlickers are never offering to stop pushing woke shit in the first place
>>156134845sigh...ok>>156134710>train car is 700 feet long>seats on the right completely jumbled>where the fuck is the protag's left leg how is he standing like that>why is the floor wet>everyone the scene has the same haircut>aisle lights stop 3 rows in>bullet isn't even coming out of the gun straight>belt pouches aren't even on belt>>156134907>holding the tool wrong>robot is a completely different art style>no shadow on the rear left leg>lighting offscreen light source and lamp aren't mixed>lamp pointing at monitor but no reflection>Robot visor glowing but no blue light on her hand>Girl has no shadow>robot has no shading, it's large enough that the light wouldn't hit it consistently, an actual animation program would do this for you>wrench just floating near her chest with no visible means of attachment>earring hanging from the side of her fucking head instead of her ears>hair being lit by the lamp despite being higher than and behind it.
>>156134998I've never seen a right winger mad at JK Rowling. Only leftoids
>>156135026You completely twisted my words
>>156134944>making himself feel better about being gay with his insult for southerners >thinks incest is worse than sodomy while being a living illustration that it’s one of the worst sinsLel>>156134426The artists want the shows they make. They seethe about all critics and masculine animators who remind them that they have no reason to desire their standard style but somehow ended up chained to it anyway.
>>156135040You're new, but times change I guessI've just never seen a point in reading H.P. Earthsea was the better book by far
>>156134821>/pol/tard namefag is insaneYou didn't know yet or what?
>>156135093I don't pay attention to namefags.
>>156135103Good tbfh
>>156135036God I thought I was done but i looked again.What the fuck are these legs.
>>156133668>>156133726>>156133746Realistically AI isn't going to kill any animation jobs. AI tools are being implemented in existing animation software to speed up tasks or increase the efficiency but it's not going to do so to the point that the already skeletal animation crews doing multiple positions worth of work can be made smaller. The aspect of animation most likely to be "disrupted by AI" (God I hate that phrase) are the sound guys since it can generate sound effects and background noise on cue and modify them as well. >>156133823And? At the end of the day you don't have to watch anything that doesn't appeal to you.
>>156133823This>>156132340Unfortunately for her, brown haired white boys have always been animation main demo (them and preschoolers)
>>156135128The work AI is going to do is the same work we've exported to north korean children since the 70s. And that's assuming that token prices stay low enough to compete with the korean kids.
>>156134821He's a well-known schizo who wants John K. to be his dad and touch penises with him. But it's okay because Jesus Christ says it's not gay if it's John K.
>>156135132You know nothing
>>156135040Lots of conservative Christians were upset at Harry Potter, but the non-religious right wingers and conservatives weren't.
>>156135036>>156135123>Genius can’t even tell that my drawing is used directly in the imageLMAOHow many years of art college did you need to fail at basic perception?>>156135093>>156135103>>156135108You’re at 6 years and thousands of hours of pretending you don’t care about me with another gaynon or yourself.This act is just a gay degradation fantasy detached from reality. Obviously, people intensely care about my conclusive proofs that AI is a powerful tool for artists already.
>>156135128Oh also sound effects come in licensed packs. There's no work for the AI to do there. Nobody's going to spend time AND tokens to generate a sound effect that already exists. Maybe the dedicated studios that do nothing BUT sound effects for movie productions can AI generate the sound effects but I assume there's more to their job than sifting through their library of explosion noises and picking one.
>>156135040>wasn't alive for even a second of the several satanic panics.I envy you only a little
>>156135205>everyone's a same fag Maybe stop posting with your name and people wouldn't recognize you as that neice fucking autist /pol/ nigger you are.
>anti AI slop talk. Autism aside what are you guys doing? I've been able to stock up on candy thanks to sales. Halloween is fun for adults too, just usually during the same day or a day after. I'm going to a party in a few hours.
>>156135255Came back from a buffet with gf so I guess I'm just gonna chill for the rest of the nightI'm too stuffed to go out rn
>>156135255Gotta work today, so I'm gonna stay up all night playing vidya and watching cartoons.
What show is AI going to make?
>>156135291AI is a tool. Unless you’re talking about an autonomous bot in a simulation this is like asking “what show is digital art going to make?”
>>156135255I rode my bike while having Gunship and Marilyn Manson on blast.
>>156135207The line of thought regarding that is AI allows studios to skip all the licensing, sound libraries, and whatnot. The real issue is that generative AI is what they're touting to reap investment capital and drum up interest when all the actual use cases for AI are in analytical AI. But you don't get to swim in VC funds, draw retail investor interest, or get widespread corporate adoption with "leveraging large-scale data analysis and collation allows for increased efficiency of labor-hours across an organization" even if that's what you can actually expect out of AI usage.
One of the things that scares artists is that AI takes the control of creation out of their hands. If someone can ai generate some boyslop by punching some prompts into Claude, then there’s no to consume their millennial therapy slop starring vaguely queer quirk chungus girl of an indistinguishable brown race.
it was fucked before but AI getting better isn't going to help.
>>156135438Yeah I think what people don't get is a corporation doesn't care how much work something is, they care if they save money. If it costs them more to pay someone to fiddle with Morphic than it does to just license a SFX library they're going to do that, especially if fiddling with Morphic adds production time. Especially since token costs WILL go up as AI companies try to pay back the billions of dollars they borrowed.Yeah the only industries really benefiting from AI are the ones that were already using it back when we called it machine learning.
>>156134168NTA but I just want a return to the pre-clinton era of cartoons being commercials for cool toys and playsets again
>>156131895technically, we've never been in a better place than now for good animation>instead of carefully waiting for one color of paint at a time to dry, and painstakingly arranging a dozen cels perfectly on a background board, with a single mistake fucking up hours of work, we can just do it all on one screen and upload it>Instead of having to find a country poor, desperate, and hard-working enough to give you amazing artistry for pennies, we can just make a computer do the inbetweening now, once it has trained on the animator's work. So you still need skill, and you still have to do a lot of drawings, but you don't have to work yourself to deaththe problem is>anti-capitalists have destroyed capitalism, and it will never heal>everyone is fucking tired. everyone has chronic fatigue>nobody has any life experience other than watching shows>censorship is higher than it has been in decades, with people voluntarily narcing on anything even if they, personally, approve of it.>viewership is at an all-time low since the invention of film.>all the talented actors are dying off, and union rules make them prohibitively expensive to use anywayand most importantly>the world is ending very, very soon
>>156135479>control of creationYeah sorry you need a license to use a pencil. Very hard to get. Very elite.
>>156135479It's not really the boyslop or any of the shit you're talking about.The real thing that scares them is that AIslop is completely hoovering up two large, easy-to-market-to and easily-entertained audiences; very young children and social media doomscrollers.The latter is especially bad for them because the rise of AIslop on TikTok and Instagram has utterly decimated the reach and relevance of the shitty, cheap brainrot animations that used to make those platforms their bread and butter. Now that AIslop has completely replaced that market it's a lot harder than it already was (and it was already quite hard) for animators to make money off of views on social media. Combine that with the rise of age verification in Europe and parts of the US and they can't even fall back on porn (I'm excluding Asia here because Asians looking for porn art will just look towards Japan).AIslop will absolutely demolish a good 80% of animation in the west because a lot of it was retardedly centered around social media.
>>156135536oh and every animation company embezzles all the money saved by going digital. even in other countries. Like they all just nodded to each other and decided aint no way theyre gonna lower animation costs and do higher-quality shit
>>156134097rowling didn't exploit people to become a billionaire like most of them end to do. if you give any leftoid a billion dollars, they'd tell you they'd donate it all, but they're lying. most of them don't donate now, why would they start later?
I wonder if the guy who's always in these threads posting his AI works ever worries about other AI users just stealing his work.Like, there's eventually going to hit the point where the low level sloppers will steal from the regular sloppers you know? And they outnumber the regular sloppers 1000 to 1.
>>156131912If you think AI is gonna suddenly bring in a wave of le based trad pilled hetero romance. You're even more retarded than pic related
>>156135603With AI you gotta get intimate with. You basically gotta treat it as a retard. You gotta do about the half of work as writing a real story. People need to remember AI is just a tool, it can't do it all. You still gotta put in some work.
>>156135545Mr pedo can you name any successful animators working with traditional materials today?You’re a pedophile since such a laughably disingenuous presentation proves wanting to exploit ignorant children in one way or another. Even with full digital tools from pre-AI animation was a very shitty job full of cliques who want complete control of your creativity, like Vivzie “INTERPRET MY SHOW EXACTLY AS I TELL YOU!” Pop’s.
>>156135581AI databases are full of content stolen from real people. someday soon, AI slop will just be ripping off other AI slop and soon literally nothing new will be created
>>156135744Fact check: you can take one of your original stories and turn it into a full game with each moment playable.
>>156135319Foster's home, rick and morty, hazbin hotel were digital
>>156135697I can tell you're an autist but I can kinda understand your point ai can really only be useful as an assistant
>>156135711>Mr pedo can you name any successful animators working with traditional materials today?NTA, but Yasuomi Umetsu.
>>156135711
>>156135189>Lots of conservative Christians were upset at Harry Potteronly the hardcore fundies
>>156135766I don't mind AI if the person uses it puts their own art and not copying others.
>>156135040You’re just a zoomer. Right wingers have been mocking Rowling for a while now. It all started when she retroactively made dumbledore gay.
>>156135841>I don't mind AI if the person uses it puts their own art and not copying others.99% of the people using AI don't do this.
>>156135841I've seen artists who train a model or lora off their own backlog, they just flood their discord community with AI spam and stop drawing entirely. Crackheads.
>>156131912The main issue is that the corpo slop is sorta necessary for a healthy indie pipeline. No corpo slop means no jobs means no one really trains to do animation outside of hobbyists because it's such a massive time sink that you can't really make a career out of unless you're really, really lucky.
>>156132394>believing Japs make things for parasitic gaijins who have never paid but complain
>>156132631It's entirely based on contrarianism because they were more than happy to shit on it when Rowling was some radfem retconning Dumbledore as gay and celebrating black Hermione but the second she started complaining about trannies she became one of them as far as they're concerned so now her stuff is based and redpilled.
>>156136436Cope
>>156136736Arrest
>>156135103true until the real tripfag arrives.
>>156135069>I might be a child rapist but at least I'm not gay!lmao
>>156131895This is what happened when you black listed your savor and ignore everything he ever said.>>156132107More like 2010, we still got cartoons that were new IPs that were not ads for anything.>>156132291It will, MeTV Toons is already make sure that animation has a future.>>156132340Back then most cartoon characters were funny animals, humans were few and far between.
>>156131895>You don't own the stuff you make with AI since you didn't make it at all>Can just steal someone's videos and they can't do shitLMAO!
>>156134821I'm progressively becoming convinced that the real guy died a while ago and someone created an ai bot off his old posts to trollThey're posting the most retarded, perfect bait imaginable. Like it's engineered to be as irritating to /co/ posters as scientifically possible
>>156132005Just got Undergrrround invading my algorithm. It's cute and cheesy for AI slop. Sucks that it's AI slop but if this is what creators are shooting for with animation now then so fucking be it.
>>156137919why do you keep fantasizing about children being raped is their something you want to tell us
>>156132394That overseas demographic is just China and South East Asia, if it was made for the West everything Japan makes will be like this to the T.>>156132806China was the one who shat the bed, the west wants funny animals, strictly.>>156133115They don't want that style, excluding Detective Conan which got off lucky with it's art direction the top leading anime (namely Sazae-San and Chibi Maruko-Chan) is just as simple and flat as Family Guy and Bob's Burgers, what Crunchyroll and HiDIVE are pushing is despised by Japanese normies as "too geeky" and has a horrible reputation since the late 80s due to the Tsutomu Miyazaki incident, and as a result normie shows have to not look like what is essentially Filmation with Bambi eyes.>>156134238Those are shojo/josei manga in shonen magazines because they have no where else to go.>>156134681And out of all of those shows Shin-Chan was the only one normies accepted because of it's design.>>156132452NO!!!! It's...>Japanese-kinomation: 3 puppy like kids live in a water tower and escape said water tower to pester people and a fat guard named Ralph has to catch them to put them back in said water tower.>west-slopmation: you can't have a talking funny animal in your cartoon or good animation or anything creative really here take this $100 dollar budget and go make a cartoon about a human struggling or a human who got abused by another human or something.>>156132919No it did not, otherwise TMS would've got Animaniacs and Tiny Toons back (if not would still be doing them instead of Anpanman and Detective Conan) and Laura Haruna would've been TMS' ultra long runner instead of Detective Conan.Also Doraemon (and not be butchered in the dubbing prosses) and Shin-Chan (Funimation (now Crunchyroll) gag dub for adults) would still be getting dubbed into English.
Are there even people on this thread, I feel like I've seen this damn thread like 15 times this week. Exact same conversation exact same responses, evil artists versus AI, buzzwords and culture war crap from 2016. And then some random advertisements were certain AI software. Is any of this genuine or is it just desperate Indians trying to sell us some more crap. Op didn't even link to the goddamn video so this just feels so disingenuous and faking gay. I'm doubtful human beings even communicate like this rapid-firing buzzwords at each other and talking about culture war it just seems so fake and inhuman
>>156131895leftoids hate the idea that rightoids can make their own content without any talent now, because one of their cruxes relied on the fact that they control the entertainment industry. the truth is that their nepotism prevented anybody from outside of their circlejerks to produce anythingnow they will be able to, and they absolutely hate this idea.
>>15613832610 cents says OP hasn't even looked back in thread onceAnyone caring about a "culture war" is a mind raped faggot not worth your time
>>156138303>>156138057Laura Haruna is trans, by the way.
>>156138326There's lovecraft's cat, famicom, sqrlyjack, and Skyler Page, just like every culture war thread
>>156138420Are those people's handles or some sort of name of some sort of marijuana strain. This is stupidest names I have ever seen in a while.
>>156138415No she is not.
>>156138443Actual users, check the desuarchive and you'll see some of the most brainlet takes imaginable
>>156138458>AI slopOpinion discarded.
>>156138470Thats not a opinion, Laura is cis.
>>156138271guy admitted to diddling his underage niece, it has nothing to do with fantasizing about it.
>>156138702That never happened.
>>156138443I mean the last one is the creator of Clarence, and I know he lurks here because he's posted his own youtube videos here when they were at 0 views
>>156135780Pretty sure that an animator that old gets automatically canceled in America or is relegated to the most obscure of jobs >>156135781Pedophile reply
>John K, savior of the animation industryJesus Christ what a godawful take.
>>156138863That is the truth.
>>156132124>fascistWe've been over this. You're the meat shield.
i genuinely dont understand why indie animators not see the red flags. your cartoon about gays or unrelatable quirky slice of life shit is not what the audience wants. i think the malfoid shit and other ai slop really show how disconnected creators and consumers are nowadays and animators are too stubborn to learn why people like certain shit now instead of their gay cartoons
>>156139081>Bee boo bop, totally normal human talk about gays trannies buzzwords activate. Indies are dead they need to use AI ,ai future. Please hire our studio Curry Street poopers. We will make number one best show not like those Indies who make show that is successful but it does not use AI bee boo bop.
>>156138458Laura Haruna is a beautiful trans woman bigot!
>>156139135i dont really like ai shit too much but i see why normaltards gravitate towards it, im just saying indie animators need to understand this as well and find out how to capitalize on it. doesnt necessarily mean use ai to do it but retards like you will just screech ai
>>156132005It's increasingly sad seeing furfags have to amp up their cope with the fact that AI is getting genuinely indiscernible from handmade material, to the point the only point they have is>I know it looks like shit but at least it's not AI!!!News flash: most people don't give a shit if your shitty drawing wasn't made with AI because it still looks like shit, and no ebin quirk chungus wholesome performative activism will change thatI am genuinely afraid of where AI is going and I agree with many people's concerns btw, I just can't stand performative faggots that only kvetch so they can keep sucking dick
>>156139166Laura is a cis woman you sussy baka.
>>156133192Monkey Wrench exist, and Space King with its Rick & Morty-esque humanoid designs manages to look more personal and unique than any anime girl an AI image generator has made. But I guess they don't count because you don't like them because then you have to concede an argument online.
>>156139081People want funny talking animals dropping anvils on each other's heads, not unrelatable quirky slice of life shit.
>>156139283>Bee boo bop I am number one expert on everything I use Chad GPT. Please hire me big American executive, because this place has the word cartoon in it you must be a big American executive in cartoon making. Let me tell you again why you need to use AI. Beanie boo Bob look at this animation yes it uses clearly plagiarized clips from anime but it was successful on YouTube, do not talk about token cost or most of the industry of AI is having huge financial problems that is evil American words. I use AI I am smart Indian. Watch as I reply to everything bee boo bop because I am totally human
>>156131916Pretty muchFor the next ten years, thereabout, ai animation wont be better than human made. But a lot of human made will be worse than ai. After that its anyone's guess.>>156132340>we make cartoons for gay millennials because they are terminally online>white people had tons of shows to choose from>just not many with white leads>and none of them were made explicitely to tell stories about whiteness though>so any child could enjoy them>so our stories about being a gay black lesbian tranny woman and eveything being about them is the same thing
>>156133141>We will make a return to a more traditional artform by automating content creation to its coreFuck off, I want actual hand-drawn animation and Stop motion. Using AI to pretend you're making hand-drawn animation is the same shit as using CG to pretend you're making Stop motion, it'll always be wrong no matter how hard you try. I want real pictures of real materials getting moved around, not the mere illusion of it.
>>156139364As a Christian, I don’t give a damn about materialistic considerations.Stories, characters, art, creativity. That’s what I care about. No haters are speaking on that.
I think the future of animation will end up being based more on the Japanese model, where the anime is looked at more as a multimedia project.You have your show, then you have the voice actors who have their own brand, you have the composer who has their own brand, with the two groups even intersecting with the VAs singing original songs or songs in the OST, you have potential manga that the anime are based on (or a manga adaptation of the anime if it's an anime original), you have various sponsorships with other brands, you have pop-up shops and merch drops, there's just much much more beyond the show itself, and it's basically impossible for AI to replicate all of that.Problem is, I don't know how feasible all of that is outside of Japan, the only other countries that have the culture/proximity for that are Korea and China.And also, a lot of this is predicated on the people making all of this stuff actually being likeable, which is also a lot harder to pull off in the west compared to Japan since western creatives tend to, put simply, be highly-opinionated cunts far more often than their eastern counterparts, which results in generally less support and more drama, god forbid one of the people working in this intricate web of creatives has opinions that someone else disagrees with, the whole fucking project would just fall apart.
>Thread talking about future of stories in animation>No one brings up Kishōtenketsu Yeah, bot thread
>>156139304>threatening someone with a gun for misgendering youthat's the most Trans thing she could do.
>>156139452No.
>>156139304>pulling a gun someone because they misgendered youthat's the most Transgirl thing you can do.
>>156139330NIGGA READ MY WORDSTHIS AI BUBBLE IS GONNA POP YOU ARE STILL NEVER GOING TO BE A WOMAN AND THE ANIMATION INDUSTRY NEEDS TO LEARN WHY NO ONE LIKES THE SHIT THEY ARE CURRENTLY PUTTING OUT
>>156139496No.
AI is going to collapse, and China is going to invade Taiwan, and then it'll spiral into a nuclear war, and we'll all go underground into shelters where they experiment on us, and then we'll come out and I'll be a woman in the NCR
>>156131895It's fucked because these animators can't make anything that isn't tranny slop. It's no wonder Japs have been dominating the animation scene for years now.
>>156140056Only when Americans are keeping a leash on them, otherwise it's even worse then whats going on in the US.
>>156140056I don't know if this video is AI, Anime, or trannyslop
>>156140758>I don't know if this video is AI, Anime, or trannyslopthat's cause you're retarded
>>156135603Why do you think I care about faggotry and not the cliche' millennial slop writing and themes reworked in twice over. Indie is now the king of animation. YOU emabress me being on this shithole in defense of corpo slop being better than indie and not just AI corpo slop will be used to make things better.
>>156140823Zoomer slop writing, millennials all went to NASA and Medorna as the only cartoons millennials worked on were season 9B and onwards of SpongeBob, Rudish Mickey and Looney Tunes Cartoons.
>>156132005the irony
>>156131916this actual artists were booted from the industry decades ago to make it another branch of the propaganda department leftist fuckwits that put in charge are trying to pretend they earned it between screeching at pissed off audience and going scorched earth on sex in general.but they objectively suck at it period quality's in the toilet and the kind of faggot migrant experience stories they shit out as oft noted "therapy writing"is mostly to soothe their own various neuroses a lot of which is just rightful clap back for these people being generally horrible to be around period.
>>156134196I had to laugh when I met the first zoomer that called rule 63 'transing a character' and I had to explain that a gender swap meant a completely new character of opposite gender who had always been that way
>>156132040Sauce?
>>156131895I don't know. I don't care about the animation industry... I care about animations.
>>156132157?
>>156141010Where do you think animations come from
>>156131895>ship your keyframes off to minimum wage koreans to do the inbetweens>bitch and whine about this process being automatedanimators seem kind stupid and cruel
>>156131912Hexed is probably mostly AI generated anyway
What makes an animated series truly good, and what are the key elements of a compelling plot?
>someone says ai animation is so good now it's indistinguishable from real animation>look at the video in question>very obviously uncanny valley stilted and stiff 2 frames of blended ai animation spaghetti worms on the screen trying to morph into something that looks like a moving pictureyeeeeeah okayi think the real issues is people getting dumber if any of them think that looks good or at all comparable to real animation
>>156132818Yeah? In Britain who do you think are being arrested by the government for wrong think and illegal speech?
