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    Coming in less than an hour!
    https://youtu.be/3AFJtcP2cp0
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    >>156128321
    Can this be the watch thread? I was about to make one myself. Anyways:

    Teaser 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZlkMJ6H0w&t=47s

    Teaser 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AFrjp_-ODA

    Meet the Villains Promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoUxPuoB1XE

    Final Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lEUqM5ondI

    LETS GO
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    The store preview on the stream is spoiling the merch before it even comes out lmao.
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    30 MINUTES
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    Is this just another hellava hotel hasbeen boss thing? The artwork is the similar.
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    >>156128510
    It's an original show based on two characters from the series SMG4. At the end of it the characters Puzzles (tv head guy) and WPNZ (dude with gun on head) sacrifice themselves to save the world and get sucked into another universe - this is the continuation
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    20 MINUTES
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    10 MINUTES GET THE FUCK IN HERE
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    >>156128446
    they knew what they were doing
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    1 FUCKING MINUTE
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    >>156128321
    This better be worth my time....
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    >Michael Kovack's character already dead
    kek
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    >>156128321
    Lord general is probably based on General Grievous. Or atleast that's what I think
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    That was fun!! Interesting to see Mr. Puzzles hesitancy at betrayal since what he did to WPNZ
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    >>156128964
    that was the funniest shit
    >>156129136
    I like him, he seems fun a bit guy. But also something is off with the Lady Killer - I do like her too tho
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    R8 the pilot
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    I am a very cynical person with high standards and the vast, vast majority of indie pilots i've seen are outright terrible or at least carry enough issues to give me a feeling of mediocrity throughout, so when I watched this I was genuinely and pleasantly surprised that I enjoyed it quite a lot and I am eager to see the rest of the series. The few things that stuck out to me as problems are utterly insignificant compared to what I usually see. That being said I haven't yet sat down and tried to thoroughly critique it, but it passes my initial, instinctual assessment and was a very positive experience beyond that.

    I don't mean to sound like a normie who claps at flashing lights but all the touches they put into the show like the raw visual quality, shot composition, and little sound effects made it feel like I was watching a movie and that made me feel good. I'm really happy they actually seem to acknowledge how awful being a villain actually can be and aren't just using the concept as set dressing for a quirky OC showcase like Vivzie's work. Pink thing was a joy to watch and that's great because I was hoping she'd have a large presence and be a good character.

    Unironically mogs anything i've seen from GLITCH so far in my subjective objective personal opinion.
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    >>156129291
    9/10. Can be a bit too 'jumpy' and fast with the animation and action pace but that's just ZAM's style. Otherwise it was fun and got chuckles out of me.
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    So, Ladykiller is going to be revealed to be some kind of hero working to subvert the villains from within, right?
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    >>156129291
    8/10
    Solid start, feels a bit like theyre ape-ing something else but they might get their own grove.

    I know enough about 3d art and animation to personally think theyre trying to be a bit too artsy. Could save themselves some time and cost if they calmed a bit on expressions
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    >>156128321
    What's the backing of this show?
    The art, animation, song number; most corpate studios can't get stuff like that
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    >>156129458
    I wonder myself that too...but would she be hero? idk
    also I just realized, never watched ZAMation, but didn't they put the cube characters from their series in this or I was tripping? Because I recognize them from some art
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    >>156129584
    I forgot to add they were just shown on monitor with other villains. I do hope we gonna see that one eye lady also Puzzles bumped into
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    >>156129458
    That's my guess. I think by the end the team will end up as Anti-Heroes / Anti-Villains as they end up bonding
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    That was actually a pretty fun watch, I’d give it a thumbs up
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    >>156129508
    This was made by a channel that sometimes does Minecraft Fnaf animations so it’s got that content farm money
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    >>156129291
    not funny at all
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    Is it weird that I want to fuck this thing?
    Will they do a Gameoverse and lean into the fanservice?
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    >>156129658
    Probably not, unfortunately
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    >>156129291
    8/10.
    Feels like a solid introduction, but they're going to villains redeemed thing, aren't they?
    It also suffers from the typical Zamination overanimating, which isn't my thing, but at least the animation is good. They're probably never going to reference anything from SMG4.
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    >>156129648
    Such a sentence I sadly understand

    Kill me now
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    hate subversive shit like the dumb stickers or the whole general being nice thing, also the tired ironic jokes like "evil chant" thing
    really lame
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    >>156129712
    >They're probably never going to reference anything from SMG4.

    Karenbros I don't feel so good...
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    >>156128321
    ultra flop
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    >>156129658
    >Is it weird that I want to fuck this thing?
    Considering what other people get their jollies off on this board I'd say you are OK.
    I mean at least it's somewhat feminine.

    And I don't think they would lean into fanservice, not like it ever stopped a motivated degenerate.
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    >>156129291
    6/10
    The biggest concern I have is that they keep bringing up the musical number, which was easily the worst part of the entire pilot. Makes me think they're gunning for one per episode, which would be a huge mistake.
    The characters are a little one note as of now, but the pilot is intended to establish the dynamic, so that could see some big improvements from future episodes.
    Humor is pretty much a flat miss the whole way through. Part of that is the one note of every character. Every single character has a single joke they repeat throughout the 30 minutes.
    The premise is interesting. I like the idea of potentially rival teams or other villains getting in their way, and with 25 other groups, they can really be disposable with them. Dave also showed that the entire group doesn't have to succeed, so chipping down the rival team could really provide good build up.
    Really the animation hard carries it. It's some impressive eye candy to simply look at the whole way through, with expressive characters and some fun action set pieces.
    A solid watch I would recommend if you got the time to burn, but not something I'd set a schedule to watch. Could potentially see some real improvements depending what they focus on. If episode 2 is more Lord General saying 1st world problems to be evil, The Pink Thing reading a book, and a musical number that lasts three times as long as it needs to, I might just pass on the rest of the series.
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    >>156128793
    mating press
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    is this a Therapyslop?
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    Will she be in?
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    >>156129809
    isnt that the pink one's shtick minus rainbow powers?
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    Is 40k in one hour a good number?
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    >>156129801
    Not yet
    So far just "Ah shit, I did something fucked up" is all that happened.
    Might not go the crying and talking route if we're lucky
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    >>156129767
    >Karenbros I don't feel so good...
    I'd expected Mr. WPNZ making a reference to his ex-wife, but I meant the Nintendo stuff specifically.
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    >>156129846
    the designs are all over the place, damn
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    >>156129801
    Gets danger close to it. Mr. Puzzles expresses he's feelings of being an utter failure, but comes to realization mid sentence that it's normal to feel that way.
    It's not as egregious as we're used to for indie animation, but can't seem to shake the habit.
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    >>156129872
    Well, at least they're all very different; I don't know if they're bad designs, to be honest.
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    >>156129826
    >>156128321
    The guy on the left looks like Lord Darketh Deaddeath now that I think about it.
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    >>156129885
    >>156129847
    >EVERY INDIE ANIMATION NEEDS A THERAPY SEQUENCE
    I hate this
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    >>156129889
    they don't look like they belong in the same show even
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    >>156129869
    I mean ofc they won't bring up Nintendo stuff for legal reasons, even if somehow the RGB person still is now after them with a lawsuit I doubt they would want another one. I would maybe expect mention of original ones if they would, but idk
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    >>156129801
    >>156129885
    Emotional moments != therapyslop, it's a matter of balance. Even TADC had at least one good emotional moment, the problem was that the entire series became warped around them and they were done increasingly patronizingly.
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    >>156129902
    That's not necessarily a bad thing; it reminds me a lot of what was done in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.
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    so glad he straight up killed the paper king
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    >>156129967
    oh that shit
    at least that movie had multiple universes to justify that
    also those designs didnt look butt ugly
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    >>156129902
    I mean they're supposed to be from all over the universe in show, so being uniform wouldn't really make sense
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    >>156129987
    >also those designs didnt look butt ugly
    This is the actual issue. I love tonal/visual dissonance, I do not love tonal/visual shittiness. Even the MC is "we have the faggot from hazbin hotel at home"
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    >>156129994
    there is still some degree of uniformity that character designers implement in shows cast to show they exist in the same universe
    those fuckers look like from different worlds altogether not from different corners of the same universe
    like they are clearly going for this whole villain motif and theme and even gave the pink shit some villainess outfit and oooh skulls and shit which could work but it's not done really well here
    also ugly, some of the characters loo fucking ugly as sin
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    >>156130014
    If you can believe it, he's older than Vox.
    Vox officially debuted in the show proper in 2024 (he only had a cameo in the pilot)
    Tenna from Deltarune is 2025.
    This guy debuted in 2023.
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    >>156128793
    Making a hole
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    >>156129898
    You know the meme of "Isekai is either Narnia or A Yankee in King Arthur's Court"
    For indie cartoon theyre either "Gravity Falls" or "Steven Universe"

    Murder Drones - GF
    Hazbin Hotel - Steven Universe
    Moneky Wrench - GF
    Helluva boss -Su
    Now TADC seems like a GF but its actually SU
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    >>156130014
    yeah and mr i want to be a megaman boss so bad over here has the same sharp grin with big yellow eyes and shit
    honestly when i said that those design didnt make look butt ugly i was really talking about all of them except the mantis lady and maybe the big robot lord guy
    even though i find them meh personality wise
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    >>156130014
    Gunhead does also look like a the murder drones as well
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    >>156130067
    >Moneky Wrench - GF
    That require Monkey Wrench to be popular on any level
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    >>156130047
    I can't believe Deltarune created the TV-headed men.
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    It was all right. I found the voice acting strangely hard to understand at times.
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    >>156130086
    ok i worded it wrong but i meant that when i said the spiderverse designs didnt look butt ugly i basically sounded like i meant all the villain designs in the show were shit but honestly mantis thing and lord thing are fine mostly
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    >>156128321
    Mmm, but most importantly... we need more sexual appeal
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    >>156130126
    The Pink Thing is right there
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    man i hate everything about pink, from her personality to her shitty design and being an axolotl cuz lol quirky to her voice
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    gayslop?
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    >>156129658
    Nah, I'm in the same boat.
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    >>156130160
    I don't think she's meant to be an axolotl, yes its similar but she looks more of her paw hands.
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    >>156130067
    >Indie cartoons are either exploring a mystery about the world or exploring the emotions of their characters
    I feel like this is a hate the game, not the player moment. Those are the two things autistic fanbases will get hyper fixated on and talk about your show endlessly. You cant just make a funny or cool show and expect it to do well these days. Because that type of content, while fun to watch, does not have the absolute black hole of attention grabbing that spawns theory crafting.
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    The animation is great but overall not so impressed. A villain show should not have bad musical numbers, yaoi or therapy talk. Not that we got so much of all that yet but you just know its coming.

    >>156130014
    Its jarring because none of them mix or match well. Like even in isolated duos. You ever see the mockup group drawing with the mane 6's original intended colors that look unholy bad together? It gives that sort of feeling but now its not just color, its designs too.

    And all of the mains except Ladykiller look a little too much like other existing characters from past shows. If we're going to get the lame shit mentioned in the first paragraph be the first cartoon of your kind at least. MD, TADC, HH, HB and Villainous at least had unique ideas and presentation. Was not enough to redeem HB to even okay tier in my opinion though.
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    >>156130131
    It's kind of cute, but I can't "gooning" with it; something's missing from the design. For example, Kuromi is cute, but she drives me absolutely wild.
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    >>156130232
    she looks like a DA or tumblr user tried making a shitty villainess oc for something like skylanders or something
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    >Pilot ends
    >Get blasted with plushie and t-shirt ads
    I understand, making money and all that, but does every indie animation have to be advertisement for the merch? Are we back in the '80s? Except no, all the male characters are cucks that get humiliation ritualised by the girls. Is Mr. Puzzles going to be revealed as trans at the end of the show?
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    >>156130232
    >paw fetish elemental
    muh dik
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    >Half expected some reveal that Puzzles didn't do anything evil in the end after they kept hiding what he wrote
    >The King Shatters

    based
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    >>156130233
    Sad but true. Buzz Lightyear of Star Command is a funny show WITH action elements, but if it aired today as if it were an indie show (just remove the elements from Toy Story), I could see people writing it off because there's no backstory to why Zurg is evil.
    >>156130240
    Nta, but I can see where your getting at. For me Pink is just this weird little creature that just so happens to be a female.
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    >>156130240
    Speaking of Kuromi, happy birthday you little Imp
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    >>156130349
    i love my wife kuromi
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    >>156130316
    You said female creature
    OHHHHHHHHHHH
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    >>156130232
    She can give a handjob with her head haha
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    >>156130385
    >sex_with_androids.gif
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    >>156130316
    >For me Pink is just this weird little creature that just so happens to be a female.
    I just like tiny women that I can manhandle and penis would look absolutely gigantic next to. Also the fact she's a chaotic little gremlin appeals to me.
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    >>156130271
    It's literally that or Patreon grifting. Youtube pays people piss all because most of the ad revenue gets siphoned by third worlders setting up a constant stream of tv/movie content farm channels that dodge copyright by playing terrible music at 80% audio.
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    >>156130410
    just pomni
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    >>156130047
    Still a pilot debut and his lore was already being shared on his instagram/comics so Vox counts as older. I'm kind of surprised anybody from here likes Puzzles at all to be honest. He came at a time where people feel thats theres too many other male tv heads and does not do anything new, was a late addition spotlight hog that changed the show hes from and is the pet of crazy tumblr and twitter women.

    >>156130093
    He looks more like Black Hat than a drone now. In SMG4 he didnt look like Black Hat at all. Here he does thanks to the changes of the head, eyes and mouth. Thats just "vivzification" though that Alan also took from Viv. But this show also feels like its almost the same shit as Villainous too, more so the latter episodes of Villainous. It makes me feel like these companies are too comfortable borrowing stuff from others like Nintendo, Villainous, Helluva and RGB. They need to get someone competent on board to make something new and stop thinking about how they can make a melting pot of everything people liked from other stuff when they can't really even blend it together well.

    >>156130168
    Thats the main reason a majority of people cared about the two leads from SMG4 so that is *guranteed* later on. Just pray it doesnt get to be the main theme like on Helluva.
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    >>156130558
    >Just pray it doesnt get to be the main theme like on Helluva.
    I'll give SMG4 the BOTD here, he's a slop peddler but not a straight up fujo.
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    Was this the next TADC? Or just a flop?
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    >>156130558
    >>156130569
    WPNZ is straight as he bagged a cat girl in the other universe. He and Puzzles are bros.
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    >>156130581
    It'll be decently popular but I doubt it will be massive
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    >>156130581
    At best it'll be Gaslight District tier
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    >>156130624
    average performance
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    >That feel when people have no idea what this means if you haven't seen SMG4
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    What exactly is Pink Thing? I've been calling her an axolotl, but she's more like a four eared bunny thing.
    How sensitive do you think her ears are?
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    >>156130658
    We already have yaoi of these two, chat
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    >>156130672
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    >>156130658
    Where have I seen that before?
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    >>156130410
    Also this.
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    >>156130410
    >chaotic gremlin
    is another term for most generic lame ass quircky chungus character?
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    >>156130410
    >>156130908
    Can you retards get the actual character tropes being used right? She's the midget librarian girl of the group.
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    >>156130922
    fuck did i do? i hate her
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    >>156130927
    You hate her for the wrong reasons because you are a retard.
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    >>156130934
    no you retard i hate her because she fucking sucks and trying too hard to be quirky, who cares if your autistic ass wants me to say she's le librarian or not her personality and such are the same and they fucking suck
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    I think this show's animation is good but kind of hate the art style. Unrealistic art styles just don't work all that well in 3D. Bro should've gone 2D (the superior medium.)
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    >>156130948
    yeah, she fucking sucks my dick
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    >>156130948
    Hahaha you ugly fat piece of shit. I'm going to attack you over a fucking cartoon. You love taking tranny cocks up your ass. Ooh gottem'!
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    >>156131018
    ok now you're trying too hard
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    This turned out a lot better than I was expecting. Some genuinely impressive animation on display. Love every time Lord General starts mono-wheeling around the place.
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    Okay, what do you think of this thing? Goon material or just cringe cuteslop?
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    >>156131080
    ugly and weird and trash
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    I like how despite it all...they're all actually villains and know it, they're funny and all, but are actually dangerous people who make the lives of people worse
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    >>156131080
    onahole
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    >>156131097
    we'll see how long that lasts
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    >>156131080
    CnF, Nelson, Press, Hole. Many things really.
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    >>156131097
    I'm like 80% sure Lady Killer is going to turn out to be a hero infiltrating the contest.
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    I would say the jokes for Lord General were a bit weak, they could've been more clever than "Micro transactions, taxes, etc" to get him into the evil mindset
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    >>156131204
    all of the jokes were weak
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    >>156131149
    >lifted by penis
    >dangling legs
    >size difference
    >fleshlight position
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    >>156130587
    >>156130658
    The writers bar one want them together and they keep making eyes at each other. And he left his family to help him close the portal. It only wont happen if they want to go the nuclear route and pander exclusively to selfshippers.
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    >>156130067
    >>156130233
    Murder Drones does the whole mystery lore thing but is also just genuinely cool and self-indulgent autism fun too - to be fair
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    >>156131445
    I saw that weird monster beast girl.
    Why is my dick so hard?
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    >>156131445
    When does murder drones get tolerable to watch? The clips I've seen of it make it look appealing, but I've tried on 3 separate occasions to get through episode 1 and I just cant stomach it. Could I just skip to the good episode or are the prior episodes needed?
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    The Big Bad immediately killing Michael's character was funny
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    >>156128321
    Hate these kinds of lame shows about fake super heroes and fake villains. If you're not able to use actual heroes and baddies then fuck you. Same reason I hate Disney's Wreck It Ralph, oh we can't use actual gaming brands besides worthless cameos so here's our original character do NOT steal who references superior and genuine gaming franchises.

    Nah if you can't use the genuine article then fuck you. At least in Shrek they used the actual fairy tale characters. Hope this show brutally fails.
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    >>156131510
    Just watch through the pilot, then get up to Ep 3 to see if you like it. The pilot isn't representative of the rest of the show, it was very early on for Glitch (and Liam Vickers) and MD finds it footing as soon as Ep 2.
    It starts getting right into the eldritch mystery stuff after the Pilot, and pivots heavily away from the self referencial cringe stuff. I mean there's still some "cringe" but it's the purposeful humor of the show and mostly Uzi being an autistic sperg gremlin girl so it gets more endearing.

    >>156131487
    Honestly, a pretty common reaction at this point.
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    >the Big Bad is a kooky old fart
    >but still an absolute evil fucker who can still show you why he's still top dog
    I was expecting him to stay shrouded in mystery until later so this was a pleasant surprise.
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    >>156131653
    why does he have lame ass minions if he's the worst of the worse and does he give all groups special treatment?
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    >>156131653
    hope he doesn't become a jobber
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    >>156131608
    I don't know who she is and I don't know anything about the show, but I think she's attractive because of how crazy, chaotic, and unrestrained she seems, and obviously because she's a female character.
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    Any one else think it was a missed opportunity that we never got an appearance of Glitch villians or SMG villains on the scoreboard?
    Do they have to get the rights for that?
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    I want to remind everyone that this is a spinoff of a show about a fat Italian humping giant plates of spaghetti.
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    >>156131711
    Because he knew anyone too competent would've tried to gun for his throne a long time ago
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    >>156131766
    It's very funny to me how they still try to keep SMG4 in lore, when they can't touch the obvious elephant in the room.

    Frankly it's nothing less Glitch and ZAM have been allowed to exist without Nintendo bringing the hammer down
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    >>156131768
    fair what about the second point?
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    >>156131754
    Honestly more drama than its worth.
    Imagine how much autstic rage would occur if they put like Warrick or Angel Mother on the gameboard. Then, presumably, our protagonists reach rank 1, and thus performing as better villains than them.
    They know their audience after TADC. They arent just autistic, they're rabid. A small "hey I recognize that" is not worth the "omg how on earth did Cyn
    lose to fucking Mr. Puzzles?"
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    >>156131790
    He does mention he'd performed that song of his 52 times, so he likely goes all out for every group.
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    >>156128321

    >More overly Detailed character designs
    >All quickly Character tropes, and or Twig gay coated characters Hasbin/Hellofa/DC fans will ship
    >Musical Number....
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    >>156131723
    Seemed they try to put that fear to rest by having him utterly demolish the other guy
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    >>156131733
    She's possessed by an eldritch horror entity, and said entity is extremely unhinged, sadistic and has a lot of fun with its pets (you).
    Unrestrained is an understatement.

    https://youtu.be/z84B_UQdpWQ?si=_xJLxHbV63Nzla0c
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    >>156132049
    then sex with her must be lethal haha
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    >>156132113
    at your own risk and probably eternal slavery anon.
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    I wanna do things to this thing
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    >>156132160
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    >>156132160
    what's this?
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    >>156132160
    >YOU ALREADY KNOW.
    >YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA DO TO THAT THING.
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    >>156132183
    One of the villains Puzzle bumps into when he first arrives at the Big Bad's place
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    >>156132160

    >>156132183
    it's >>156129596 >>156132208
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    >>156132208
    better than pink thing but really anything looks better almost
    also better than tv guy's design, and gun guy
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    >>156129658
    >combination between twilight, pinkie and max from sam&max
    nope, wanting to bang her is perfectly reasonable
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    >>156132373
    except max is charming and easy on the eyes at least compared to her
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    >>156132432
    eh, shes got time to grow on us
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    Make predictions on which group will be the most obnoxious in the following months, the Puzzles x WPNZ Yaoi-shippers, or the people who simp for and want to fuck the Pink Thing (I'm part of the latter)
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    >"collects" villain-inflicted injuries
    She's a little freak
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    >>156131784
    Calling it now, the winner is going to be an SMG4 character who shows up in literally the last five minutes of the final episode.
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    >>156131510
    You have autism?
    You have STRONG tolerance to autism?
    No? Then Murder Drones ain't for you.
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    26 fucking groups worth of characters they're gonna need tons of episodes to introduce and possibly kill them all
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    >>156132648
    designated group stress relief toy
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    >>156128321
    heck i forgor about this and i'm already busy with a lot of shit today.
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    surprised no one in the team is the evil doomsday device dude, thought pink thing will be that but no she's just a bookworm and kinda useless/boring
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    >>156132761
    That was probably Dave before he got immediately killed
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    >>156132957
    he looks too lazy for that
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    >at the halfway point the confident female villain presents the obvious solution to everything
    >all the villains immediately agree within a millisecond it's the right solution even though they were fighting each other the whole time
    lmao
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    >>156132994
    I do appreciate that they come to that realization really quickly and not in some big dramatic moment. They realize "yeah this is fucking stupid" and actually cooperate
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    so mantis lady is super fast, doom lord dude is super strong and can somehow fly, weapon guy has lots of fire power what in the living shit can tvhead and pinkshit over there do?
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    >>156133057
    Mr. Puzzles has dominion over electricity and his powers scale with how much outside approval he accumulates. Pink is intelligent and a small arboreal mammal with a fifth limb.
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    >>156133092
    so far he didn't do anything other than mildly shock a weak-ass minion bot and the pink thing didn't display any form of high intelligence at all, she's like the brainy smurf, reads tons of books but doesn't really do anything clever or genius
    also wow a paw tail, very powerful
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    I really want to buy this plush but it looks ass
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    >>156132735
    >grabbing her by the tail and paddle-balling her face into your fist over and over
    not my usual bag but if it's cartoony violence and she's down bad for it, I can work with it
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    >>156133057
    The intent is pretty clear: Tank / Rogue / DPS / Brains / Bumbling Lead that we root for.
    I think the main issue is that pink doesn't actually do anything intelligent, lady killer is clearly the most intelligent. Hell, mr. puzzles is more intelligent than pink I'd argue. So pink doesn't really have a role in the group outside of... mascot, I suppose.
    puzzles is supposed to be outclassed, that seems to be the main point of the story. Guy over his head and all that.
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    >>156133198
    pinks purpose is to die in episode 6 or something
    that or puzzles dies instead
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    >>156133198
    that is one lame main character then
    also lame side character
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    Let me guess, another take on how being a horrible mean spirited person is actually fulfilling and a metaphor of what freedom costs you and how you shouldn't judge things at first glance because the author has the same writing skills as they did in 2nd grade, did I hit it on the head?
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    >>156133198
    >>156133215
    >>156133231
    pinks purpose is to sell marketable plushies and other such merch
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    >>156133244
    they failed that then because I'm not buying anything with her unless it's color and design matching
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    If I remember this studios historial correctly, these ZAMination fellas were working for MOB Entertainment before and doing Poppy Playtime "fan" animation for the game but decided to split off when MOB started to exploit them around the time chapter 3 came around.
    This whole collaboration with Glitch seems to be their newest attempt at a "partnership".
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    >>156132994
    I mean, yeah? What they were doing was retarded and they needed to get their shit together.
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    >>156133057
    Mr. Puzzles shines when its tech based stuff and reputation. The more popular he gets the stronger he will become. Dunno about Pink Thing. She feels like a wild card and will have some secret ability she herself doesn't know about yet
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    >>156133310
    tech?
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    >>156133326
    In the SMG4 stuff he controlled electronics to an extreme degree and even had his own pocket realm when he was "popular" enough. Current Puzzles is in the gutter and depressed. He will most likely get more powerful if/when they rise in the rankings and more eyes are on him assuming TBB is broadcasting this thing
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    >>156133198
    She COULD pull a Healer.
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    >Copper-9 is on the subjugation tour after the paper planet
    Crossover boss battle incoming
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    >partnership
    >look inside
    >it's just 3 studios (glitch, zam, and bliptoons all working on the same ip and same projects)
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    >>156133527
    well fuck, that doesn't bode well.
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    >all style
    >zero substance
    Why is every indie cartoon like this? It's like a pie with no filling.
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    Its fun but I can't help but feel a lot of the character design and story choices were done to make the characters as marketable as possible and not because that's what the creatives had in mind.
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    >>156133870
    Everyone wants to be the new TADC/most of these pilots are made by people with no writing experience, I am not a fan that Dana Terrace got her Glitch show because she has connections but at least her past experience means that you can see that KoG has better writing structure.
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    >>156134183
    all glitch shows are because of connections if glitch ever did public pitches or something every animator in america would submit to them and people would be mad if theirs wasn't picked
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    >>156133870
    There IS substance here, however it is faint
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    >>156134437
    True but with Dana it’s even more blatant.
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    >>156132160
    I think you found Gloom's older sister
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    >>156130316
    There's no backstory to why Jax or Stolas are evil and people love those shows
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    >>156132160
    >her team is 2nd to last even though they lost 2 guys in their first mission
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    >>156134959
    better villain entrance
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    >>156134978
    something tells me the other teams will not be any more or less impressive from team z other than the tops
    like the only reason why they will seem grander at least before z rise in power is simply because they get higher scores because of style and such
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    sex with this thing
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    It's a simple gag, but Lady Killer A posing all the time and just generally refusing to be ragdolled really got me.
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    >>156135054
    They OBVIOUSLY are keeping a good chunk of these villain portraits up to fan interpretation just like the door photos of TADC's pilot
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    >>156128321
    As someone who's only seen post-Murder Drones Glitch and doesn't know anything about SMG4, am I supposed to know something about the characters/creators going into this or is it a totally clean slate?
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    >>156128321
    I watched this because I got really into Mr. Puzzles last year and I did enjoy it. The content of Puzzles and WPNZ might not be as accessible to CAV-onlys as they’d hoped. I love the animation style, it reminds me a lot of the show Spookiz!
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    So is it good?
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    >>156135470
    it's better than gameoverse
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    >>156135452
    Given what is actually in the pilot, it's more "there are bonuses that you know if you know" deal, since I've never watched Murder Drones and only know a little of SMG4 - obvious example of this is the Mr Puzzles and WPNZ relationship, in that those who know, will know why Puzzles has the gun bullet at the end of the episode - and it's unlikly the show itself will recap important plot points like that for the sake of newcomers

    I'm expecting Mr Puzzles to have a banger song eventually though, his SMG4 songs are pretty good
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    >>156128321
    >purple color theme
    woke slop
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    >>156135655
    ...since when is Purple a woke color????
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    >>156133527
    They'd be fucked against Cyn unless Puzzles hax could counter her somewhat
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    >>156128321
    It was alright. The animation was really good and the quality of the 3d look very high budget. It looked as high budget as Blizzards shorts but it was 30mins. The humor as with most of these indie pilots was reddit-tier but other than that it was good. 7/10 and mainly for the visuals.
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    >>156135526
    Pretty low bar.
    Im hoping that Gameoverse just needs to find it's footing. By episode 2, it better start letting the characters... do something.
    The pilot just had all the heroes and villains actions amount to nothing. You could remove every major player from both factions and nothing would change about the story.
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    >>156136106
    >Gameoverse just needs to find it's footing.
    They need to fire Arin.
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    >Lord General punches Puzzles
    >WPNZ gets all pissy
    Cute!
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    This reminds me of that one show with the group of incompetent villians. Tiny dude with a skull face, nerd, and the fat canadian dude. Does anyone know what im talking about? It was made in the 2000s and was 3d as well
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    >>156136384
    League of super evil. I liked the games more than the show.
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    >>156136384
    You are so right - it was called League of Super Evil. VOLTAR, DR FROG!! RED MENACE, DOOMEGEDDON
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    >>156128321
    Calling it right now, plot twist will be that grandpa lich was never planning to select a winner, and that all the missions he's giving the villain teams are just parts of his plan to gain power and become immortal or something. Our team, plus whoever ends up joining them from the other eliminated teams, will have to work together to stop him before he kills them all and will ironically be seen as the heroes who beat the big bad.
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    >>156129291
    5/10 at best, that was mid as fuck
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    >>156136502
    I'm thinking you're right. There is definitely an alterior motive, I heard someone say maybe he's trying to find a villain to put his essence in and take over their body or some shit.
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    >>156131510
    It doesn't honestly. You either vibe with Liam Vickers' stuff or you don't. I don't mind it but it's clear he's not particularly good at writing or characters.
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    >>156134959
    >Over half the contestants were eliminated already
    How the fuck did that happen? Did Puzzles' team get really lucky to get sent to such a non-threatening world or are the rest of the villains just that unimpressive?
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    >>156134700
    >There's no backstory to why Jax or Stolas are evil and people love those shows
    the fuck you talking about? The entire finale was a Jax cryfest revealing his was abused by his dad and was a troon in the closet
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    >>156136592
    There was no implication anyone had to be incompetent to join, I am imagine some of these chucklefucks are literally just guys who WANT to be villains but have zero skills whatsoever.
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    >>156136623
    competent* I meant
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    >>156131080
    Desperately wants to be cute goonslop but has no real unifying concept or design cohesion. What the fuck is it even meant to be? Some sort of pink rat thing but with four ears and a hand on its tail? And some generic "evil" costume thing as well?
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    >>156136592
    They're villains.
    Most likely, they went for the throat of their teammates immediately. Puzzles' team kinda did already, just in a more vain way rather than violent way.
    Coupled with the fact that I doubt all teams actually made succeeded in the mission, half is believable.
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    >>156136548
    That scene got me rock hard, I hope for more Ryona from this weird girl
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    >>156136653
    They want it to be "Cute GoonSlop" like pomni but they forgot something important...
    the sex appeal
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    >>156136718
    bleh
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    >>156136653
    Also the names not doing it any favors.
    Pink Thing doesnt exactly spark a lot of imagination.
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    >>156128533
    ok but are the characters going to be revealed as guy one by one and cry about their relationships
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    Hopefully they get more prep for future missions, watching some SMG4 clips and I want to see the team come up with death traps and evil lairs for heroes to attack.
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    >>156136392
    >I liked the games more than the show.
    THERE WERE GAMES?
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    >>156136755
    it's goonslop for furries
    pomni appeals to normies because she just a white girl in a clown outfit
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    >>156136755
    >sex appeal
    Pomni wasn't really a "sexy" design, I think you goon to too much off model porn of her.
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    >>156136876
    the sexiest fictional girl of the century
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    >>156136867
    It's more Pomni is a simple design, just a jester girl, and the pink rat doesn't have a single unifying concept going for it to the point even its name doesn't have any thought put into it.
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    >>156136855
    No idea what the fuck you mean by "revealed as guy one by one" but personally would not put it past this show to have WPNZ and Puzzles cry at some point. They have a very deep bond which is clearly important to the plot of this show as much as it was in SMG4
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    >>156136839
    Pink Thing sounds like the type of name you would give to the pet of the group
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    Why is every indie show compared to TADC?
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    >>156136934
    Biggest fish in the pond. It's just a basic MPC mentality to compare similar things just to make a point. Looking at you Zeurel...
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    >>156136980
    >MPC
    NPC* my bad, i'm tired
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    >>156136980
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    I wonder how powerful Mr. Puzzle is gonna be.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvq9CflWEPc
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    >>156136899
    sorry I meant gay, as in men fucking men and women fucking women
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    >>156136592
    considering the death rate, we don't know how many villains died due to The Big Bad (only 1 in Team Puzzles so far), how many died due to Teamkills/mission factors, and if the team that was eliminated went to a bad world or fucked up so badly they were all killed for failure

    but if this death rate continues, Team Puzzles will rise to the top simply because their teammates don't die due to bullshit reasons and they just simply complete the missions asked of them
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    >>156128321
    It's okay, I guess. A show about wannabe supervillains is hardly an original concept, but this show gonna have to offer more than some quirky tumblrcore designs and personalites to keep my interest.
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    >>156137082
    Oh. Well I mean, WPNZ and Puzzles are not confirmed gay at this point if that helps. Just know they do have a very close friendship. Not gay though
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    >>156136592
    They did an open recruitment on public cable across the entire galaxy, they probably got more deluded edgelords and divorced dads going through a midlife crisis than they got actual villains. Plus I'm sure Dave wasn't the only one who made a play for the throne. It wouldn't surprise me if Big Bad killed half of them himself before the round even started.
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    >>156137078
    oh no
    he's gonna become caine
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    >>156137108
    I reckon they’ll take a TDI approach from Episode 2 onwards, where there’s only 20 or so villains left with each getting some time in the spotlight and a couple getting bumped off every episode, until it’s just the Puzzlers left to be pitted against each other.
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    >>156136502
    I'm thinking either that or taking over the winner's body and turning the losers into minions. Though if he is being legit I can imagine this being like Blue Lock where even losers might still be in it and there is a secret "Side B" for losers who were effective to still have a chance at winning
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    >>156128321
    >Thought the pilot was pretty good
    >Check out the channel
    >The rest of their videos are Minecraft-styled content farm slop
    What the fuck?
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    >>156137271
    *villains left with a chance to actually win
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    >>156136592
    To be fair there are other factors
    >Potentially got a hard mission
    >Some of em trying to pull a Dave and try to kill BB immediately only to get bodied
    >Team killing fucktards
    >Jobbers
    Even some teams who made it have teammates down already
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    >>156137325
    You didn't figure it out with that humor?
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    >>156128533
    What the fuck happened to SMG4? I remember watching his stuff during the mid-2010s when it was just autistic YTP-like mario parodies where he's a retarded jackass, can someone give me a qrd
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    >>156137078
    >The competition may be getting broadcasted before a galactic audience
    Dude might reach god tier if he becomes popular
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    >>156137339
    Lerdwichagul added in Puzzles for the last arc. Which as someone who's seen all of SMG4 it wasn't bad
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    It's approaching 2 million in less than a day
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    >>156137339
    First he got hit with C&D from Nintendo, so he had to change almost all the models and use Mario/Peach’s Castle very sparingly

    Then YouTube’s Terms/Conditions + social climate changed too, so he had to drop a lot of the “inappropriate” jokes that made it funny to begin with.

    He managed to keep it afloat by hard pivoting into lorebait and overarching stories, but almost everyone agrees some magic and appeal it had was lost forever because of the new restrictions.
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    good number
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    >>156137389
    >>156137408
    Not bad considering it's a holiday that's going to have most people out of the house all day.
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    >>156137408
    It surpassed Monkey Wrench, thank goodness.

    I’m not being facetious BTW, I’m genuinely happy it’s successful.
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    >>156137437
    I hope they resolve the show's problems
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    The TV man's reactions and facial expressions remind me a lot of Jax
    is he the archetype of the sexy Tumblr man?
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    >>156137457
    NTA but the only thing that really made me roll my eyes was some of jokes, but that’s unfortunately par for the course these days.

    Other than that I honestly really liked it, it felt like an actual cartoon instead of just more shameless, irony-poisoned lore/fur/goonbait.
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    >>156136718
    >>156136548
    Cute!
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    I think its got promise but they really gotta punch up the humor here. Thats probably my biggest criticism because unlike most pilots, the story isnt really the main issue and the scene with the Paper King already showed they can do impactful moments, but god the humor can be lazy. Being self-aware about evil bad guy chanting or puns is worse than the actual cliche itself. Also I do think they could've saved the villian song for later as I wish we had more time with the characters themselves, but I guess it establishes the "Big Bad" himself alright. Actually I was surprised that I liked him the most of the cast. Yeah he can be silly but he does show he can be actually evil or cruel
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    i thought it was pretty good outside of the second song
    >>156137437
    monkey wrench is better imo but that's only taking in the later episodes. this is already better than the first few episodes and that gives me hope
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    >>156129324
    It managed to execute this premise without cursing once and downplaying the terrible actions of the main characters.
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    >>156137573
    *sigh* I'm going to e621 to investigate.
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    >>156137437
    ME TOO! I want this show to do well, the team did great for a fucking SMG4 spinoff.
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    >>156129658
    >Is it weird that I want to fuck this thing?
    Not so long as you acknowledge that she comes in a distant 3rd to these two >>156129584 >>156132160
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    >>156137573
    Is this AI generated, or did some horny-headed maniac already make a lewd model of her?
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    >>156137573
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    >>156137599
    https://x.com/Pen_Islandlol/status/2114399870823920001
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    >>156137573
    >>156137599
    >>156137632
    >>156137662
    >No fur patch on her chest
    Into the trash it goes
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    >>156137589
    >the team did great for a fucking SMG4 spinoff.
    Yeah I had no hope for this whatsoever because of that, was pleasantly surprised how decent it was (aside from the jokes) when I tuned in out of morbid curiosity
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    Are the other main characters all original creations for this show or do you think they were scrapped characters that have been repurposed since SMG4 concluded
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    >>156137750
    I’d say the first thing, they seem a bit too high quality for something like SMG4, which to it’s dying breaths was just edgy shitposting
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    >>156130672
    A Lilo and Stitch thing
    Specifically Angel
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    >>156137829
    with the expressions of pomni
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    >>156137586
    >I'm going to e621 to investigate.
    hey cool >>156132754 full version is there already
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    >>156131510
    >When does murder drones get tolerable to watch?
    episode 2
    if it doesn't hook you by then, don't bother. not everything has to be for everyone.
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    I really like how expressive everyone is
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    >>156137932
    I have this strange urge to hit her
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    >>156137932
    She's gonna become illegal in the UK 'cause i'm gonna make her sit in my face
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    >>156133527
    >>156135734
    if it ain't got liam's name on it, it ain't canon
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    >>156138083
    Someone on Twitter will tell you it's not morally right to goon with her, and they'll probably call you a pedophile.
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    >>156138128
    She's a pedobait 'cause she's short.
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    You know, I thought P.T. was going to be more of a innocent type of character where she's trying to be evil but is actually kind/bumbling but no she's a psycho
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    This was absolute quirk chungus dogshit. Trend-chasing overanimated slop that is somehow even more devoid of passion than the algobait that preceded its creation. Every line of dialogue that could be considered semi-serious is undermined by a joke. Every character is an annoying amalgamation of things that only appeal to obnoxious faggots. The top comments are "theories" from spergs who think they're smart for being able to understand the basic trajectory of a children's show plotline. Along with that, there's the same lovebombing praise that never says WHY the pilot is good or interesting, but insists that "the whole industry should strive to be like this." Makes me fucking sick. Go figure, there's barely any slapstick in yet another cartoon that wants to be a comedy but won't do anything fun. Instead we get the characters acting like they have Parkinson's and violence that has 100x the budget of a stick figure fight but not even a fraction of the weight or impact. Soulless nonsense made by spiritual hylics who sincerely believe that having the cast stand around and exchange ironic pleasantries is more important than so much as HINTING towards a substantive story. Fuck YouTube for pushing this on me, just like all the other terrible pilots that magically get pumped into my feed for two days before being dropped from the discourse after everyone wakes up from their collective delusion.
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    >>156137586
    Only 7 images on e621, I'm so disappointed
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    >>156137573
    >monkey wrench is better imo but that's only taking in the later episodes
    Hell of a caveat there.
    If you compare them 1-to-1, that is, this pilot vs Ghost Egg, and monkey wrench gets blown the fuck out of the water.
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    >>156138144
    made for fleshlight position
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    >>156138158
    Holy buzzwords Batman!
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    >>156137854
    I'm sure this shit reuses TADC animation, fuck, literally Pommi does that same pose and expression
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    >>156138228
    I'll use whatever language I god damn please to express my points.
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    >>156138270
    And I'll use whatever language I want to call you a retard (:
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    >>156137517
    >facial expressions remind me a lot of Jax
    Same.
    I'm not a big fan of this show so far but I'll probably watch it anyway just to see Jax live on in some way. It feels like he's being reincarnated into a different character, given how similar the expressions are.
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    >>156138158
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    Look at this pathetic shit haha
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    >>156138158
    >wall of text
    >says no much but "I don't like this thing"
    This is the bad kind of autismo.
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    >>156138320
    She looks even more like an axolotl with no glasses. Ratxolotl.
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    >>156138293
    What do you actually like about the pilot? Honest question. It is absolutely unwatchable in my opinion, even more so than recent ones.
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    >>156128321
    They did a fantastic job establishing Mr. Puzzle's character and motivations in this pilot, I feel like I understood more about him from the opening number than I do some Indie protags from entire seasons, but I wish they'd spent a little more time showing what his powers are. I can't tell what he can actually do besides some vague electricity powers that only work on machines I think?
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    >>156138348
    I think Puzzle's powers are dependent on his "ratings" or otherwise juicing himself up. At his weakest that's kind of what he has. A bard with some electricity powers and technology manipulation
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    >>156138338
    For now it's okay, just mid-shit, not terrible but not wow either. If I have to say whether I liked it, well, I liked the plot about the TV man, I don't remember his fucking name, about not knowing what to do with his stagnant life.
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    >>156138379
    It's cool that you're telling me that, but I'd rather the show told me that. That's only a minor complaint though, we got plenty this episode and they have time to show all that in the future, assuming they end up making more episodes.
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    >>156138321
    You don't get to say I'm an autist for critiquing something that released 12 hours ago, which barely anyone has investment in to feel any emotion about more than "meh." The fact is that seeing someone articulate the problems they have with a piece of media you are uncritical towards DEEPLY offends you, hence why you resort to the automatic dismissal. Do you like it when the evil characters are actually hecking wholesome? Do you genuinely, sincerely need more theater kid faggotry in these cartoons? I know I won't get a straight answer out of you, just like I won't get an answer on any platform. Just kill the Internet at this point, having strong opinions online just means you're cringe, or contrarian, just let people enjoy things mannn.
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    Damn, what a bitch
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    >>156138449
    You can have strong opinions. But when you express them in the most zoomer-brained faggot way possible then of course no one's gonna actually entertain whatever you say. I'm not gonna spend serious time talking to a raging retard
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    >>156138320
    >is literally just 3D Peeb with 200% more ear
    11/10 would Squoosh
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    I want to see the pink thing of the pink thing
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    >>156138494
    >Zoomer-brained
    >Buzzwords for me, not for thee!
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    I thought TADC was ok. Not great, not shit. Should I watch this?
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    >>156138609
    I agree, he should've just called you a nigger
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    >>156138609
    nta but comparing ONE use of modern lingo to your wall of text with dozen of buzzwords per line is quite disingenuous. Retard.
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    On a scale on 1 to Hazbin Hotel, how many musical numbers will this show have moving forwards?
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    >>156138742
    I am thinking one every other ep or so. Puzzles tends to get musical numbers
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    Finally watched it. IT was not for me for the most part, but i like the animation, cartoonish 3D is good when done right.
    But this won over me in picrel moment, it was played so well i might keep an eye on this.
    And yeah i really like Pink and LadyKiller.
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    >>156137573
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    >>156139261
    Man i hope this person fixes this model, her haircut is wrong, and she's overall fluffier.
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    So how do you see future episodes playing out?
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    >>156129885
    I think the fact that Mr. Puzzles follows through and kills the king helped. Sure he's feeling shitty about it but there wasn't any external dwelling in the moment when he realized he had his solution to getting the pencil. It's definitely more interesting because not only did he follow through but he specifically chose to kill the king, when he could've written down for the king to just surrender outright or vomit the pencil up. I just hope they don't fumble this stuff later on, it's kinda tiring having villain stories where it's about them becoming heroes by the end.
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    >>156128321
    I started watching what was considered to be “impressive animation” on Twitter, took only about 20 seconds to see a scene designed to make the current equivalent of Tumblr girls squeal about how gay they’re being.

    Great…
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    >>156139440
    Puzzles had like a few seconds and there was much room on the note to be elaborate. Sure he could have written "The King surrenders" but the pencil would still be in his stomach. "The king vomits" gets the pencil out but away from Puzzles and the King would still be able to pull something.
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    >>156139670
    wasn't much room*. Also he had a tiny broken piece. Not exactly easy to write with
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    >>156139392
    Some guesses:
    >Elimination round against another team where some of our other crew members get to shine to bring the team to victory
    >Insight on hero faction episode and maybe the gang having to infiltrate one of their strongholds
    >Inevitable "throw a team member to elimination" ep where Puzzles probably has to screw one of them over. While I hope they avoid a retread of Puzzles and WPNZ prior arc they might end up having disputes over that stuff or if /when Puzzles has to take WPNZ out to win
    >Background episodes.
    >Squaring off against "'A' Batch"
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    >>156139440
    It's also being treated as a forshadowing note too, "the king shatters" is essentially a vague prophecy now that The Big Bad has become king because Mr Puzzles NEVER specifed which King will shatter on the note itself, so it's possible EVERY King will shatter eventually
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    >>156139834
    >C'mon man, it's all about instinct! You can't win this thing with some paper and a pencil.
    >Puzzles does exactly that.
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    >>156139878
    i love cohesive writing.
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    >>156137408
    This has Glitch/SMG4 autist following it
    Of course it was bound to do well, Mr. Puzzles alone is enough fanservice to power a series (just as he did in his SMG4 arc)
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    Lady Killer isn't a hero....She's an ANTI-HERO. One foot into villainy.
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    >>156133527
    >Bro fight literally anyone else
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    >>156140102
    probably
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