https://aiptcomics.com/2026/10/30/marvel-preview-friendly-neighborhood-mary-jane-1/looks like shit...
Just undo One More Day already
>Yeah, I used to date Spider-Man. That was a thing that happened. No need to spend more than one panel talking about it.>Now to have a four-page conversation with the guy who used to bust Spider-Man's balls in high school.
>>156120091I mean yeah, so does peter desu. And its not a romantic conversation either.Ill say, it does bring up that its one of the most important things in her life lol.
>Calls Flash Tiger...Gross. that she calls anyone other than peter tiger is gross. why is this so difficult for people to understand. Also, she's from central PA not queens.
Another woman writer for the cornfield Spoffice.It might sell better than Jackpot, but watch this crater.
why is she hanging out with Flash? Did Paul allow her to have any female friends?
>>156120215Felicia, but I think the entire universe is trying to forget Jackpot.Why didn't Paul put on the gauntlet and risk his life if he felt so guilty?
>>156120175She’s called other people Tiger even in the 1970s.
>>156120397He couldn't afford to risk his own life as long as he had hope that God would deliver him a child to molest.
>>156119843>wouldn't trade itOh so like OMD? So you're saying OMD is bullshit nonsense? Yeah that was agreed upon immediately 20 years ago.
>>156120417Yes and its always been stupid and gross. Tiger is what she calls Peter in her first appearance and should have remained his pet name.
>>156120418Traumatized btw.They need to actually match and fix the characters perception and faith from the audience, if this was Amazing Mary Jane this would be a serviceable, but she needs damage control done with far greater skill than Ewing at the park.
>>156120451OMD isn't bullshit nonsense at all, it led to incredible, well-written and memorable stories like
>>156120451Lol. Is this another femoid writer the has no clue about the character filled in by lowe and then fed to the wood chipper. I hope this bombs.
>>156120506... like....
>>156120091Thre could more to that panel then that maybe sh is remembering the times they were married. But if that's true then it could be she does remember the deal also. So her leaving peter for paul after all that would make her look REAL bad.
>>156120507They treat female writers that aren't part of the BND clique like mushrooms.Feed them shit, keep them in the dark. The backstory behind that poor woman they sacrificed during Jackpot was just sad, basically given no knowledge about Paul and fill in the blanks.
>>156120507Phil Noto art guarantees this will bomb. Also the ANV color scheme is ugly as sin.
>>156120522Like and but who could forget ?
>>156120560Shit, is this what they talked for hours about at the end of Death Spiral? No wonder Flash looked so depressed, he thought he was getting some pussy.
Eesh.We needed a better EUREKA moment for this development than what we saw the the Anniversary.As it stands it'll likely be something forever on the backburner as one of her hats in lieu of making her classic character walk in and start dancing.Also the art is giving everyone manfaces.
>>156120572>when have I ever run away from anything?DohohohohoohoooYou know she grew out of that and became a more courageous person prior OMD? Can we have that woman back again, and stop using her College age cliche's to excuse her shit writing?
this would be more fun if flash thinks its a stupid idea and she is to up her own ass to stop talking.
New interview with Zdarsky>He says Marvel were catering too much to the people above them, and finally those above them said “look, stop trying to please us and just make good stuff”>Also indicates there will be extra mini-summits with smaller creative groups and he is also pitching smaller projects as well as ones with bigger swings.>Says he plans so far ahead that he has to ask other writers to do things in their books, he says he knows what the pay offs will be with the characters and set ups, but doesn't want to conflict with some things they're doing, brings up Joshua's run on Iron Man for instance>Says he can't control previews or teasers but the one thing he can control is the plot twist and that nobody truly knows what's happening and it's impossible to predict>Says Armageddon brings Colton "down to earth" and Avengers is about him reclaiming his humanity and Spidey gives a big speech about it to him in issue seven>Says fans who praise and critique him don't know what they're talking about, and the reception doesn't make for better work, and once they get what they want, they won't be interested anymore, says Claremount's relationship with the fans were the same, citing that Wolverine got a negative reception when he started out on the team. He says he stopped caring about the X-Men as soon as they started 'shooting hoops' at the mansion, as it got boring>Says "what the public want is intention, resolution and the happy ending, but they fail to recognize that the word ENDING is in there, so it's push and pull, you want characters to have joy and success, but you want them to have obstacles and you have to find that mix there"
>>156120643>MJ being a producer is a whole different skillset that takes time, effort and connections in-house to a world not cape or modelling, there is little on your ven diagram that actually translates to sober planning of what you're getting into->WATSON PRODUCTIONS
>>156120671A lot of shit takes and false equivalences here Chip gotta say.
>>156120687It's either gonna flop hard by the end of the mini or MJ has to blow it all up (metaphorically) to deal with Chameleon like Peter did with Parker Industries.
>>156120712>MJ starts getting blackballed at a bunch of industries like Peter as they keep trying to push her as anything other than the things that made her popularWould give her something in common to talk to Peter about at least.
>>156120766They'll have her start an OF account for 'women's empowerment'.
There's plenty more wrong with this besides the Flash stuff.Mid writing, flat inauthentic cartoony MJ characterization, bad research, crappy art. Allen is cleary a fucking idiot as a writer.
>>156120418>>156120432>>156120458>>156120470>>156120560>>156120572If the want a fresh start for her why import toxic elements from the previous run, like Flash.
>>156120432>ANVshould've been Carol
>>156120795>flat inauthentic cartoony MJ characterizationThat's par for the course for Marvel though
>>156120799You have to understand.DC editors are stupid.Marvel editors are evil.Spider Office editorial are stupid evil.
>>156120799They're still on the 'controversy = higher sales' mindset even though it flopped hard the last time they tried giving MJ her own series
>>156120432>I made a real difference protecting others>shows the guy she killed>hey tiger - it's FlashI feel some malevolent force in these panels sabotaging and making meta jokes about the absolute state of things here.DOA.
>>156120843>DOAI'm pretty sure Marvel knew that already.
Not spending a penny on this shit book. Marvel can go fuck itself burn all copies of this or thow them in the trash can total trash
>>156120766if OMD is Undone wouldn't she be his Spouse during the Parker Industry stuff.
>>156120864OMD being undone isn't gonna be addressed anytime soon, you'll have to wait until at least June for that.
>>156119843she is simply depositing the parasitic offspring of her symbiote inside him
>>156120864It's not going to be a retroactive retcon (even though that's just as much thought as OMD and OMIT did and fans were expected to just accept that). The modern guys get to keep their shit takes, and MJ and Peter will fumble in neutered forms what their classic ones did easy.
>>156120864Honest question you people have spenry twenty years, discussing, debating OMD are you going to spend the next twenty or thirty years doing the same thing? give it rest old ma it should be obvious by now that they will never undo it, Besides all the signs indicate that Gwen is the one for Peter NOT Mary Jane. don't forget now Gwen only died beacuse of Mephisto's interference had Norman not made a deal with him then he would not have become the Green Goblin and thus Gwen would not have died.Therfore her death is unacceptable and must be undone. Doctor Doom may just be the answer to that if figures out a way reverse mephisto deals then the past will be changed and she and peter will be with each other.
POLAND DESERVES TO GET NUKED
>>156121020Muh gwoo?
>>156119843>>156120175>>156120418>>156120432>>156120458>>156120470>>156120572>>156120560Phil Noto is fucking disgusting, gormless retarded faces
>>156121032What has Poland given the world outside of shit like the Witcher?
>>156120787Let's be honest, a year long arc where Peter runs MJ's OF as her photographer and manager (and stunt dick) would do insane numbers. Black Cat shows up for a crossover, Deb Whitman subplot where she spends thousands of dollars on content trying to prove that Peter and MJ are behind the account but everyone thinks she's just crazy and obsessed with her ex, an issue where Aunt May finds out and approves just because she's glad that her nephew is back with Mary Jane (and she reveals Uncle Ben took some nudes of her 40 years ago), a wacky issue where MJ agrees to a collab with a big account and Peter realizes that it's Titania and the Absorbing Man. The possibilities are endless.
>>156120884>OMD being undone isn't gonna be addressed anytime soon, you'll have to wait until at least June for that.do you idiots not bother to pay attention to anything? first of all have if you have seen the solicts for the upcoming then you would there is no indictation that OMD is being undone anytime soon,
>>156121020what. are. you. on. about.
>>156121032How about we nuke you instead for being a dumbass instead.
>>156121087Peter belongs with Gwen she is the one for him so her death must be undone.
>>156121020I told you that you would be back for the next thread, you retarded pedophile.
>>156121098With what, nigga
>>156121050Is the coloring again? I try give the benefit of the doubt but I'm getting serious rushed Wells era art vibes here.Of course at least that was conveying emotion better than rolled eyes and stepford smiles.
>>156121077Sounds fun but definitely well outside the age bracket of BND, these guys might as well be living in a different planet to those under thirty.Also Peter would be called Idubbz and MJ Anisa.
>>156121117Why asre you accusing me of being something I am not? I think this thread is over.
>>156121087It's gwenschizo, just be glad he's not spamming numbered gwen images again.
>>156121077Deb Witman would make a great civilian antagonist for Mary Jane.
>>156120432She only really started acting after she fell in love with Peter though
>>156121170Posting a few pics is hardly spam now bug off.
>>156121180Civilians aren't allowed to exist except to die in modern marvel.
>>156121187You think there was knowledge about that when writing?It's four pages. They couldn't even get where she was from right.
>>156121187Yeah and now she be whore since she went for paul's dick.
>>156121020They literally got rid of OMD 48 hours now. It’s over. Without OMD, Paul is nothing. Without OMD, Mephisto is nothing. Without OMD, YOU are nothing.
>>156121232Paul’s every bit as dead as OMD lol they’re both gone forever!
>>156121236Are you stupid or something their deal was for their marriage NOT their souls so it is still valid try spamming harder.
>>156121214But they put mask in bold! Clearly this writer knows everything about MJ!
>>156121252Not Gwenschizo whose Gwen is dead and will forever remain dead, but MJ canonically choosing Paul repeatedly has to be nuked from orbit. This guy DUI a planet and she hopped on his cock whilst Ewing canonically described the smell of corpses on the wind. It's fucked.Also the only kind of people who would buy this mini are the kind of people who will be aggravated and annoyed by the moves and characterization it's doing. We are doing Jackpot. AGAIN.
>>156119870It doesn't matter if OMD is undone technically or not, characters have been ruined for 20 years and will continue to be ruined for the foreseeable future.
>>156121117>I told you that you would be back for the next thread,It's over anon once doom does reverse mephisto's deals Gwen will be back since the past wil be changed and yeah editoral will do it as fuck for sure.
>>156121279>Not Gwenschizo whose Gwen is dead and will forever remain dead,No she won't
>>156121287Remember when Doom freed Valeria and he told her that he can't bring her back to life? He could only send her to heaven.Doom is going to keep Gwen's soul in hell.
>>156121285There are those that cope like removing OMD is going to fix things, it won't. It's a philosophy and staff problem, they'll just change their in-universe excuse as to why they aren't married, because these characters are ultimately at the behest of the same office who thought a deal with the devil was a good idea. No turnover, no change.
>>156121255Now Mephisto doesn’t have the marriage anymore haha bye Mephisto time to get raped by Miracle Man
>>156121386So do you think that means they'll get back together, get married, have a kid maybe or be well written from now on?
>>156121333SHE DESERVES IT I HATE GWEN STACY
>>156121396I think there’s now one less obstacle to all of those things.
>>156121398DOWN WITH GWENUP WITH MJ
>>156121232>>156121252Always made me laugh they could never figure out how they wanted his body type to look, so he would always swing wildly between skinny manlet and Arnold Schwarzenegger from issue to issue.
>>156121333Doom wants to do good not bad him reversing all of mephisto's deals would make him a hero in the eyes of many. Even reed richards wuld be proud of him
>>156121396the deal is not undone
>>156121454>Even reed richards wuld be proud of him>Even reed richards wuld be proud of him> Even reed richards wuld be proud of him >Even reed richards wuld be proud of himDAMN YOU RICHAAAARDS! SHE WILL REMAIN DEAD FOREVERMORE!
>>156121433If the writers wanted to milk something out of this catastrophe, they would have Pauls changed body type immediately after the kids arrive part of the 'chains' affecting her mind always making her see him in some other bizarre light.Look at that 'romantic' montage and compare that to the doomed world and events around it. It's just so bizarre and conflicting.
>>156121490Kek.Doom doesn't want Reed proud of him, he's not some forgotten child, he wants Reed in awe and humiliated by him as his objective superior. What is Gwenschizo thinking?
>>156121490how would Doom react to Marvel saying the Peter and MJ cant be Married because Reed and Sue are the only Couple allowed.
>>156121476Zdarsky already confirmed the deal is undone. Miracle Man is indeed about to rape Mephisto.
>>156121521EITHER YOU TWO FOOLS SHALL BE MARRIED TO EACH OTHER…OR ELSE THE BOTH OF YOU SHALL BECOME MARRIED TO DOOM!!!
>>156120799I think it would have been cool if they had MJ still foster parenting Dylan.
>>156121606That would get in the way of her arrested development.She's had how many kids now?
>>156121512>What is Gwenschizo thinking?Absolutely nothing!
>>156121521Doom cajoles Gwenpoole and Deadpool into letting him into the bullpen and horsewhipping them until Reed and Sue aren't unique with their love anymore.
>>156121698NEITHER OF YOU UNDERSTAND ROMANCE
>>156121722Doom if there's a panel of you bullwhipping the bullpen I will stan you forever and forgive any shitty OWUD events.
>>156121677> 1 is dead, turned into an orange tabby cat, or somewhere in europe. She is not allowed to remember her.> 1 was aborted due to OMD. She is not allowed to remember her.> 2 weren't real and were created with magic by her rapists father meant to bind her to said rapist.> 1, Dylan, foster kid, is the son of a former tormenter/stalker now "family friend."MJs Mini should be her writing/ then directing a movie about taking on a the fostered son of a former/ current enemy.Or she gets cast as Mara Jade in a off Broadway Star Wars Musical.
>>156121826Is Mara Jade even allowed to be remembered? Or another casualty of Disneywars?
>>156119843>>156120175>>156120418>>156120432May i say HOW MUCH I FUCKING HATE MARVEL ARTISTS AND COLORISTS?What the fuck is this piece of shit?
>>156121852interesting dichotomy. Lucas supposedly didn't like Mara Jade for his hero. Stan made a decision to marry Peter to MJ. there is a thing there.
>>156119843Phil Noto art being so fucking sterile is a blessing in disguise, if MJ and Flash kiss it will look so awful that even Twitter trannies won't be able to jerk off to it
>>156121285>hurr you can't reverse bad decisionsYou can if you murder the people responsible for them. Why weren't Didio and Harras executed after they got fired from DC?
>>156119870if they haven't reversed it in the previous two decades than it seems unlikely to change
>>156122085I know I'm fresh from the Mora thread but sweet lord.
>>156119843I will make this very clear because apparently nobody understand what is happening…YES. IT WAS ME. I WAS THE ONE WHO SPAMMED THE AI HULK DIAPER PORN. I do not regret this action and probably will do again if you people continue with this Marywhore shit and i have to see another thread of it
Each decade I feel like has had its own interesting stories to tell but I think we’re finally reaching the “end” so to speak for all these comic characters. A lot more emphasis on AU’s and elseworlds it seems. When was the last time a truly iconic story has happened in the main timeline?
>>156122647Probably the 80s.
>>156122647The problem with modern ASM is elsewhere's and AU's are the only places to get a satisfying story, their ongoing is the worst place for a writer to be. They are asphyxiating to what the cronies call their evergreen, which the original creators moved on from because it was time.
>>156122565The more you spam my threads the more I will make. You should stay awake and not sleep.
Who is this mini for?
>>156122878The 5 MJ stan accounts on Twitter
>>156120541Source? Just want to read about it
>>156122918Even if you're a mouthbreathing, no standards and no characterization caring glorified gooner account.The art isn't it. Swap MJ's hair and she could pass for a man.
>>156122878
>>156122953They aren't gooner accounts, these MJ stan accounts want her to be a girlboss who fucks around a lot before settling down >>156122964
>>156122964Get Flash back with Felicia
>>156122964I remember the owner of this account trying to argue on his main account (I'm pretty sure it's a tranny) that Paul didn't help commit genocide or that Paul technically manipulated MJ, though I'm not so sure on that second one
>>156122964Flash was the best man who is regressing to highschool/college days, a relationship built to failure wastes everyone's time and only makes him look bad and can't lead anywhere. MJ continues to dodge, evade and not address the apparent trauma that is suppose to excuse how she has been written for half a decade.This isn't healthy for anyone.
>>156123049That actually would be interesting.
>>156123067I can't imagine being an MJ fan and a Paul apologist, I just can't reconcile Dead Language with MJ.
>>156123092I think he was arguing about it because he didn't want to accept the idea that MJ was with a man who committed genocide
>>156123092They probably buy variant covers. Completely braindead.
>>156123106She was, and Ewing said that she could smell the dead on the wind, which is certainly a thing to have in the background for your romantic montage.So if you are negligent as a company lead and get someone killed, you could be criminally liable and hounded. But if you are negligent and exploitative as the company lead and kill the world, you get off scot-free?MJ should have packed her bags and took her chances with the kids on the other side of the empty planet. Or noticed that fake kids are fake because she used to be good at that sort of thing.It's just a shit story that relies on characters imploding to carry it to where Wells wanted it. He himself said he didn't know how he got to What Did Peter Do, so he invented a Chekov's gun and fired it at his foot.
>>156122853fuck off retard you make off topic troll threads fuck
>>156123239Stay awake now, no sleeping
>>156124038Fuck off with spam retard Gwen will win
>>156124351She already won Norman's heart, the only prize she ever wanted.
>>156124351I'm going to make another MJ thread after this one because you were so rude to me!
>>156122423Because others are getting away with mass murder for things that actually matter and comics are of zero importance. They'd be the last ones to go if things were done that way.
>>156119843>Ashley Allen, the new writer you get if you want an inconsequential miniseries starring a female character.>Phil Noto, an artist who peaked at X-23 because an emotionless chick worked with his inability to draw anything exciting or facial expressions that aren't dull neutrality and is even worse now than he was.Yeah, no shit it's going to be bad.>>156120186J. Scott Campbell covers means it'll probably sell okay and the first issue has both Peach Momoko and Bruce Timm variants. Someone on LOCG complaining about Allen getting "stuck" with JSC covers when the only reason anyone buys her Magic books are because of the goonslop covers.
>>156125827What are speculators going to do if the industry dies beneath their feet (again) and they are left with a closet of the same model of beanie baby?
HOW TO FIX MJ!!!>Reveal that Mephisto trapped the real MJ inside a fucked up hellworld after OMD>The MJ that's been in her place is meant to be the literal mother of the Anti-Christ>The real MJ has been surviving, turned into an isolated creature with only one thing on her mind: getting back to Peter>Time moves different there, whatever>She finds a sword>Turns her into Red Sonja>She goes berserk and starts mowing down lesser demons>Eventually tears her way back into the real world>Find the clone MJ and kills her>Spider-Man arrives>Explains everything and has passionate sex that leads to impregnation immediately
>>156125947I'm imagining Red Sonja awakening during the Wells run in MJ's body again, and just going on a rampage.
>>156125963I'm pretty sure if Red Sonja was aware her vessel/descendent was choosing fucking Paul over Spider-Man, she'd rip herself out of MJ and fuck Peter herself.
>>156119843There was a long time when MJ was Pete's best love interest and arguably the best love interest in all of comics, and that time ended with such breathtaking stupidity that I'm not sure I've ever completely forgiven Marvel for it.That said, I'm genuinely not sure it's possible to fix it. Maybe with the Mephisto deal gone they start completely over from scratch.
>>156125995>I'm genuinely not sure it's possible to fix it.It's this: >>156125947 or pic related. Honestly preferably both.
>>156126007>womb visionWanda and Vision is yuri now.
>>156125827>Someone on LOCG complaining about Allen getting "stuck" with JSC covers when the only reason anyone buys her Magic books are because of the goonslop covers.The LOCG/Comic Twitter crowd can't wrap their heads around the fact that the people who actually do buy comics are the ones keeping Jeremy Adams employed and like cheesecake covers
>>156119843stupid whore. hopefully gets pregnant and doesn't know if the father is Tony or Flash.
>>156126729Allen kind of sucks
>>156125947MJs super power should be turn turning into a sexy frazetta barbarian lady.
>>156122647The Other could have gone places.Superior is more of a wet fart now.The just get in their own way.
>>156120671>>He says Marvel were catering too much to the people above them, and finally those above them said “look, stop trying to please us and just make good stuff”Fuck off with that shit. Pretending like the garbage was because of Disney. Marvel was shitting up the comics before that deal even came in. Faggot ass cocksuckers.
>>156127551Sure but it only got worse once Disney was involved. Like, the whole ANAD era was Fiege wanting more diversity in comics for adaptation fodder and Marvel did it in the worst way possible.
>>156120863Fuck you then. I like MJ more than current Peter.
>>156128415They're both hollow shells of themselves. Hopefully One More Day getting shitcanned will help them.
https://files.catbox.moe/7jyt90.mp4
>>156129418Gwen was always just an awful cunt, the worst.
>>156129533Peter ain't any better.
>>156129317>Hopefully One More Day getting shitcanned will help them.It won't, not under Wacker and Lowe
>>156121512Okay anon how about this >I freed the souls of hell from under mephisto's tyranny and then reversed all of his deals Yes beacuse of this the past is changed but just think how many lives are now better thanks to me even Spider-Man's ove Gwen Stacy is now alive again thanks to me and you what have you accomplished recently Richards?So at first Reed gets angry at Doom but then it sinks in to him>He is right he did manage to do all of those things and yet I did not the world is a better place thanks to and I am a failure.Thus reed is humiliated because of him and doom's victory over him is complete and it gets worse.later susan learns od what doom has done and she goes.>Wow so you are telling doom managed to do all that and yet you did not you are a FAILURE reed a nobody and what's more you keep neglecting me I want a divorce and I want one now.The ring comes off and susan leaves she then marries doom and reed considers sucide.You can't be get more humiliated then that.
>>156129730Yeaah this what recon also face facts MJ fans they will never undo it.
let's not forget that paul was not first the first man MJ left peter for they were others also such as this black african guy she fucked him also.
>>156127551He's not blaming Disney, he's blaming Marvel for trying too hard to do synergy or make adaptable stories rather than focusing on writing good comics. It's probably as critical of Marvel as he can be because it's literally something Feige told them.
>>156122853>The more you spam my threads the more I will make. You should stay awake and not sleep.Oh just give it up retard you making new threads won't accomplish anything but if i get a job at marvel Then I will undo Gwen's death so think about that and start praying I don't.
>>156130007>reconI'm sorry, what are they scouting for?
>>156130269Gwen's death was already undone they brought her back as Spider-Gwen years ago. Look here she is.
>>156129578It's okay when Peter does it!
>>156130351a retcon not recon you big dummy
>>156130420You typed "recon" though. I was just trying to help.
>>156130481Gwen Stacy fans don't appreciate help or good advice they're a small and angry people.
>>156129418this is great kinda wish these voice over comics were popular like they were in the earl 00's
>>156129418I would actually like to see Flash and Peter scrap.
>>156130133100,000s of thousands of Panels and all it takes one to ruin the mood.
>>156130133Damn, they look good together.
>>156119843Everything about Spider Man is toxic, not just MJ. However, for Mary Jane, there is no world outside of Peter. Super Hero or civilian Peter is the reason people care about her. I'm not sure why this is so difficult or why people insist on writing her with other men.
>>156132128Are you on crack?MJ can exist and have a life outside of Peter.
>>156132162>MJ can exist and have a life outside of Peter.No, retard.
>>156128415Retard lol
>>156132070Little cuck
>>156132162Cuckold faggot. Go back to the Spider senpai discord and continue gate keeping. Or are you that tranny cuck twitter pushing MJ and Flash? I simply cannot fathom faggots like you.
>>156130642bullshit.
>>156132256Yes, she can
Calling Flash "Tiger" and having him be so prominent/close to MJ after the last Venom run isn't going to win anyone over even if Allen probably can't do much with her and Peter at this point. But maybe it's part of an underlying theme that MJ just doesn't really know what to do with her life (relationship, career, etc.) so she's projecting, denying, and running like she always does by throwing herself into being a producer while ignoring her real problems. But Flash shouldn't be the one calling her out on that.
>>156133035No, she's a Spider-Man supporting character.
>>156133246As a what as cheater? Oh yeah I a sure many buy the book for tthat reason silly me.
>>156119843Flash will get MaryJane pregnant in this mini, everything is just falling into place.
>>156133587Hey he can have her for all care I just want Gwen back.
>>156133121How can they expect to use her again with retconing paul and the rest. Its all so toxic.
>>156120572The whole running away thing is no longer an interesting character trait. It was a device for ewing to use but she had long since grown out of that. He also stated she shouldn't be dragged over glass, but Honestly, I think people WANT to see her get dragged over glass. I certainly do, it could build character. I want to see her out of her depth against impossible odds and coming out on top, with bloodied nose, black eye and a missing tooth. Just like Pete, except maybe she has a baseball bat and a glock.
>>156133587What if it’s Tony?
>>156134147This is why introducing these characters is toxic. This mini is no longer about MJ finding her footing. But about who she is going to fuck next, and why do People care about that... because she is the love interest and Wife of PETER FUCKING PARKER.
>>156134147Tony's busy getting raped in prison.
>>156134408pss off.
>>156134435TONY STARK>WILLBE RAPED
MJ's not going to get with Flash or really anybody. She's in a holding pattern mini until ASM catches up with OMD being cancelled in Avengers.
>>156134472That's what he gets for creeping on MJ, Paul got even worse earlier. Flash better be careful, and not make any advances. Meanwhile, Mephisto was raped by Dr. Doom, and is going to be raped again by Miracle Man.People should know better than to pick on Spider-Man
>>156134472piss off.
>>156134618THAT WAS SO RUDE!!! BECAUSE OF THAT I THINK I'LL SAY IT AGAIN! TONY STARK IS GOING TO PRISON, AND HE WILL BE RAPED THERE!
>>156134498I agree. They're unlikely to make anything significant happen in this mini, they just needed something to fill her time between the end of Venom and whatever's going on in ASM. It's an excuse to sell covers and let Peter deal with some other shit so Kelly doesn't have to write her.
>>156134647Fuck off
>>156133599Gwen prefers the BGC.
>>156134685Never! I will never fuck off now, mister!
>>156134718Gwen's always such a fucking whore.
>>156134472has there ever been a Corpo plot to Mass produce Mindless Symbiotes that an central "mind" can control and then you attach them to workers and prisoners alike.
>>156134756Sounds like something the Life Foundation would pull. They've messed with Symbiotes a LOT over the years.
>>156134733let me make something clear to you people who piss off others for no reason Reap what they saw. Fuck off now or your WILL feel my wrath.
>>156119843Who the fuck keeps reading spider cuck comics in big 26?what are you some kind of cuck masochists?
>>156134786
>Flash, Tony, Black CatMaybe we can turn this thread healthy. its not going to happen but list of characters you want to see in MJs mini...>Aunt Annie>Gayle and her Kids, "are you still too busy to help out MJ"?>Kristy>Dylan>Bambi, Candi and Randi>Deb Witman>Glory Grant>"Gwen" maybe we can dev this 616 MJ and Spider-Gwen into a friendship.>Betty>Liz and Normiewho else?
>>156134873You'll be lucky to see Anna. Gayle and her kids are never showing up again because that would mean acknowledging MJ's backstory
>>156134873Gayle should tear MJ a new one and it would be extremely cathartic and deserved.I think MJ has to be truly held accountable so that her characters reputation can be steadied and worked back up again. Peter’s written without any spine or edge so that park conversation really is expected to be what the audience accepts as ‘finished’.Fuck it. Get Gayle to throw the book, the fake kids, the cult leader she was with, the madhouse she threw her Aunt, the drugs she was the SPOKESWOMAN for that made her go crazy, let it all out both barrels from someone who does not in fact fall to their feet to worship the husk they’ve made MJ. Actual fucking drama again.
>>156134979I’d rather see Paul memory-holed. Just treat him like a disgraced Roman senator. Damnatio in Memorae.
>>156134979When's the last time Gayle was even mentioned? There's no reason to think she would know anything.I get you think MJ should get punished because Zeb Wells is a bad writer, but I don't think it helps. It's better for everyone, including Marvel, to just pretend it never happened.
>>156135832this is why this medium is inferior...
>>156135853I mean, comics is the only medium where a dumb fuck like Nick Lowe would approve a story this fucking stupid, so sure.
>>156134873The worst thing here is that MJ has a group of supporting characters that circle her and not a single one of them is going to be used. Maybe a mention.
>>156135388Anon it's never going to be memory-holed, hell at this point MJ is still bringing him up in QIB under Ewings pen when he was the one who gave the Poochie gravestone.It went too long. It caused too much damage. It's not like the one panel slap everyone gives Peter a bizarre pass for, even though Chip brought it up because nothing that bad gets forgotten. They need to break open the grave and prove he was as fake as the kids, and the entire dumb idiot affair was Mephisto magic.
>>156135832>When's the last time Gayle was even mentioned? There's no reason to think she would know anything.Isn't it a red flag MJ adopts these kids and lives with this man for years and years but her closest relatives seem to have no idea what's going on in her life and why she is doing it?
>>156136289People are going to stop giving a fuck about Paul once Peter and MJ are back together. Maybe explain it as Mephisto had been messing with both Peter and MJ's heads all these years.
>>156136309Anna Watson seemed to have no idea who Paul even was, and seemed genuinely surprised that Peter and MJ had even broken up.
>>156136309Yeah, suddenly "I have children and didn't yesterday, I also look 4 years older and dumped Peter overnight" didn't get anywhere near enough scrutiny from anyone.
>>156136362I don't even know if the four years thing is even canon anymore, because she sure as hell doesn't look like someone who survived in a postapocalyptic hellscape for four years straight. She doesn't even act like it either.It's all going straight down the memoryhole. Future arcs will just pretend it never happened. They're already explaining that the Jackpot device as something Felicia stole for MJ, rather than anything Paul invented.
>>156134247MJ is an independent woman. She see st just fuck Peter
>>156136393It's kind of impressive how Paul became this indelible black eye for the company they can't even move past, even though they're desperate to do so. Maybe they shouldn't have doubled down on Paul for year's straight. The guy was basically an inert vegetable after Dead Language but they still kept him around because they didn't know what else to do with him. Ewing tried to polish that turd, found he couldn't, and tossed him into the bin.
>>156136393According to Venom #258, yeah, the four years is still canon. They're going to move away from the age difference thing since sliding timescale bullshit always takes over, but for now, it's still canon she spent four years with him, and years after returning. I do agree it will be memoryholed and forgotten.... some day. The Jackpot device being something Felicia stole for her is bad reading comprehension on your part.
>>156136514>The Jackpot device being something Felicia stole for her is bad reading comprehension on your part.More somebody else's part. I know that it's not the case, but that's what a few people I know claimed that this was what was said in recap pages.
>>156136446It's Lowe's fault for signing off on Wells projecting his cuck insecurities on ASM
>>156136549Ah, gotcha, sorry then. It's kinda like the bullshit for a while where people kept posting the Marvel Encyclopedia excerpt saying it only "felt like" four years for MJ, without accepting that Marvel Encyclopedias are written by interns with no real future storytelling given to them by editorial or writers, especially in the middle of an arc.
>>156136586>Ah, gotcha, sorry then.Eh, don't worry about it. I just like how Marvel is sort of just jettisoning its canon and allowing fandom to muddy the waters as much as it likes were Paul is concerned.
>>156136635Can we muddy it enough to where Paul never existed?
>>156136654Eventually. Probably after enough anons claim that Paul was trying to groom Eddie Brock's son. That shit was creepy.
>>156136654Paul barely remembered his kids. Soon, people will barely remember Paul.
>>156137257It's going to be a few damn decades before Paul isn't mentioned at least once in Spider-Man discourse.It would be faster with more immediate, obvious and clear course correction by people unaffiliated with Ground Zero Rabin and don't have sunk cost fallacy and ego trying to save the lamest world killer.
>>156121852Mara jade is in mobile games. And they reprint her comic/novel stuff. They also did a limited run of her lightsaber over at disney and it was their fastest selling. She's the biggest "break glass in case of emergency" character star wars has left ngl.
>>156121826>mara jade>mary janeWasnt there a fanart poking fun at that?
>>156137604It's going to go the way of Clone Saga, except even Clone Saga had at least a bit of "mistakes into miracles" thing going for it with Ben and Kaine.
>>156137724The clone saga had cool stuff. And it also brought us mayday. 3 popular characters. What does this have?
>>156137762Jackpot...?
>>156137770There's almost no porn of jackpot, its totally forgotten.
>>156137770Jackpot was originally from the early BND era, so this can't even claim that abortion.
>>156137724Clone Saga got some heavy and hefty retcons even during it, when's the Paul saga getting the blowtorch burnt off it needs?No killing Poochie does not undo what he said about MJ's apparent canon character. She's a terrible love interest right now, and so is Peter.
>>156137909It's still hilarious to me that MJ is actually still just Jackpot III. It was HER fucking catchphrase, and a pair of brunette lesbians in wigs coopted the whole thing.
>>156127173She's solid enough on Magik and Moonstar, characters who had very little going on and allowed for some character progression. The problem with MJ is that no single writer can save her, she's bogged down in so much shit and drama at this point and editorial won't allow any sweeping changes. The character and the Spider-Man property as a whole is radioactive and any attempts to salvage it get pushback from the top. This book won't be good but I can't lay all that at Allen's feet
>>156120418Is there vodka in that cup? Why is her nose so red so early in the day?
>>156120559Uh, I liked Superior Spidey. It would have been better if MJ was getting dicked by Otto on the regular though.
>>156140447Is just a Tumblr nose,Artists from tumblr tend to paint noses red for some reason i can't understand.It looks ugly as fuck but they don't seem to care and neither do people who hire them.
>>156139741The kinds of things that would save MJ would require a far greater acknowledgement that they have catastrophically fucked her since BND, being unable to recognise imposters and with far less courage than prior OMD, and accelerated that process with rocket fuel with Wells just making an utter alien of her. She became her mother.It requires introspection, honesty and course correction. A little humility would go a long way, and might cool the tensions between the audience and the creators which is one of mutual abuse in communication. Consider Clone Saga where they published a one-off poking fun of themselves for how much of a farce it turned into, it seems even that level of self-deprecation is absent now.
>>156140516Hi Slott.
Im a huge fan of the marriage, but Mary Jane is damaged goods at this point. There is no coming back from what they did, the more books they give her the more damage they do.
>>156140959I believe she can be fixed, but not under the current leadership. At best, they don't even realise that they've broken her. At worst, they don't want to admit that they have.
>>156140978I can't see how ASM is going to improve in anyway until Lowe is gone.It doesn't matter if OMD is torn up or not, the philosophy and apologists behind it are still right there.
I need to be redpilled on what the ai hulk diaper spammer was and who they were. It sounds like a critical mass problem. I also need a good laugh.
