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Why did Matt Hagen become so big in TNBA?
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>>156115863
He stopped caring about his weak human self and embraced his power for everything it was worth, especially since his exposure to that chemical runoff pretty much made him more powerful.
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For you
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>>156115863
He was bulking so he could make more little girls.
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I never thought it was supposed to be Matt Hagen at all, it's just another disguise he's using. Batman did not recognize him, he didn't approach him like Clayface immediately until he tested mud on the crime scene, he's treated as an unknown perp before then.
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>>156116254
At least he's happy again
>>156116457
I thought of it as Matt assuming a newer form that Batman hadn't seen yet
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>>156116457
>>156116602
To be fair, Clayface was still presumed dead after dissolving in the rain during Mudslide (one of the few continuity carryovers from the original BTAS). Batman wouldn't have any reason to think it was really him at first glance.
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>>156116661
He would find it suspicious at least if someone that looked like former movie star Matt Hagen appeared
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>>156115863
Lol I dunno
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>>156116390
All that mass has to come from somewhere.
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>>156116457
It wouldn't make for a good disguise considering how unnaturally massive he was
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>>156115863
Why did he give himself a widow's peak?
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>>156115863
Bruce Timm said fuck it, you're Ron Pearlman now and Ron wanted to be big enough so that he could say "lil Donnie" because he is physically larger.
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>>156118733
Probably easier to maintain that shape for long periods of time considering it's closer in stature to his Clayface form.
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>>156119688
But wouldn't it be easier to instead keep taking different forms unless this was his main human form?
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>>156119898
I don't think he was really caring about keeping a low profile beyond not looking like Clayface. His priority was simply getting back his rogue piece of mass because he underestimated his range of remote control over it.
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>>156120621
I think you could argue that if he doesn't care about taking on another human form and has a harder time doing so then this could count as main human form at the time
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>>156119898
There's no indication he kept this form for a long period of time. He uses it once in this episode and that's about it. He just needed to appear as a big father-like guy who could take Annie back in and maybe intimidate Robin a little.
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>>156119420
Because dudes cared less about stopping balding back then
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>>156121063
He robbed three stores in this form before that so it's not like he only had it for a little bit
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>>156119520
>>156121176
Based
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>>156115863
To height mog everyone around him
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>>156121247
why does a man made of clay who doesnt need to eat, breath or whatever, need to rob stores for money?
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>>156124527
His mind completely fractured after the events of Mudslide which led to him fully giving up his humanity and also he still needs money to not have to live on the streets of Gotham
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>>156115863
that stubble kinda sexy ngl...
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>>156126219
Even with a broken psyche Clayface knows what's up
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>>156119520
*Ron Perlman
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>>156126887
Clayface and Amethyst share some similarities when you think about it
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>>156115863
Real answer: Because TNBA is its own separate continuity and not actually the sequel to BTAS. The sooner you accept this the sooner you'll stop comparing the two and just enjoy it for what it is. Nasty-ass warts and all.
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>>156127144
In that case would TAS or TNBA be part of the DCAU?
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>>156127190
TNBA only. It was made alongside Superman TAS and the crossovers between them ultimately shaped the greater DCAU.
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>>156127736
TAS would still have to be canon to some extend though considering this episode directly references Clayface's last appearance in that
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>>156128221
They really only cherry-picked the bits of TAS that they wanted to keep canon (Clayface, Mr. Freeze) and ignored the rest. They especially disregarded Zatanna's TAS appearance where she had no actual magic and was simply a sleight-of-hand performer.
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>>156128257
Maybe only those episodes could count as canon then
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>>156115863
So he could be more imposing
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>>156115863
He just felt like it
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>>156129824
Why would he want to be more imposing?
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>>156132346
You wouldn't want to cross the dark alleys of Gotham as a scrawny guy especially if you wanted to make some cash along the way
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>>156115863
He's a big star
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>>156128257
>>156128311
That's dumb and overcomplicated, it's easier to just view it as BTAS is canon to TNBA but TNBA isn't necessarily canon to BTAS. Visual changes are just artistic license for the most part and personality changes are mainly just the characters getting more obsessive
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>>156134625
I don't know this seems more complicated to me
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>>156115863
Huh? we never saw Hagen in TNBA did we?
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>>156119420
widow's peak is the most masculine hairline shape.
>>156121176
huh? balding is the reverse, the middle of your forehead goes UP
>>156126887
wasn't he always?
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>>156128257
zatanna has always been both a stage and real magician, that's her schtick
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>>156135296
I thought picrel is Hagen's new form or whatever Hagen became but maybe after Mudslide Hagen stopped being a thing
>>156135313
>widow's peak is the most masculine hairline shape.
The more noticeable the more masculine it is?
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