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Are you an inspiring indie creator/writer that wants to avoid the therapy speak that everyone seems to hate now? Well, look no further than here.

I made a writing rubric to avoid "therapy speak" that everyone seems to hate in modern media now.

I would also like to say, that for the writing advice I'm going to give: Do not look at these as an objective rubric or write your scene around this rubric. Write in the way you want to first, and then look at any of these things and consider if adding any of these things would improve the emotional talking scene.
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For example: One thing you immediately notice in many of these scenes are that one person will completely dominate the conversation and effectively infantlize the person that's receiving the talk.

This happens in Kinger's scene with Pomni.

>Pomni breaks down to the point where she can't even say anything back, forcing Kinger to come in and give her the exact right kind of talk that she needs with the exact right message.

This is forced and messy. It makes Kinger come across as a completely perfect therapist that magically fixes all of Pomni and the rest of the cast's problems without showing any kind of insecurity or any problems of his own. Just like Pomni, he becomes a comfort blanket for the characters.
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Gobbles' scene with Kit highlights much of the same issues. Kit is portrayed as helpless to her emotions to the point where it stretches the suspension of disbelief regarding her heroic efforts.

Kit is given no opportunity to talk. She has essentially zero lines of dialogue that even slightly push back or contribute to what Gobbles is saying to her. She's not even given a chance to agree.

Gobbles comes in and acts, becoming competent super fast to the point of absurdity and giving her exactly what she needs to hear in the given moment. It even includes an especially stupid line that defies what Gobbles even knows about Kit:
>Nothing you ever did was your fault!
Aside from the pilot making Kit job and look incompetent constantly, it also makes her job to her own emotions.
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So how does that make you feel?
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What do you do about this?


I'll call the person comforting the character the "giver" and the person receiving the advice as the "receiver".

1. If the receiver is having an emotional breakdown, have the giver stand back and let the emotions play out first. The crying, the screaming, the panicking, as it might help the pacing and make sure the audience feels the emotions with the character instead of it being immediately interrupted.

2. Make it so that the giver is acknowledged either through meta-text or through their own personality, behavior or just outright saying it that they're imperfect and don't know all of the correct advice to give, or know entirely what the receiver is going through.

3. If the scene is one of one character trying to comfort another, have the giver acknowledge the receiver's positive traits/actions instead of just jumping straight to giving them the perfect advice.

4. Allow the giver to demonstrate their own vulnerability. Either bringing it up, or meta textually acknowledging them or even the receiver mentioning it.

5. If the receiver is unwilling to open up about their problems, the giver could get them to open up about it naturally, through conversation, probing, even pushing them. Unless they're super psychologically manipulative, the giver should make these topics appear through natural means.

6. Make the receiver open up at their own pace or even able to decline talking all together.

7. Make it a genuine conversation between two characters. Too often these kinds of scenes involve one person dominating the entire conversation and effectively infantlizing the person receiving the talk. Hence the Gameoverse criticism.

8. Allow humor, teasing and even disagreement between the giver and receiver. Especially if the receiver disagree with the giver, this gives the receiver more agency.

9. End it off with substantial emotional development either positive or negative instead of it being an instant fix.
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>>156089133
I would also like to say: Do NOT use this as a rubric while writing the scenes. Do not write it around these things. Write it in the way that you want to write it first and then, look at these as more of suggestions. Only do these things if it makes sense for the characters/scenes. But also don't use that as an excuse to never even consider any of these things in the first place.
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I think a way easier way to fix this shit is stop making characters be huge sobbing faggot pussies.
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Just don't make characters talk about their feelings ever, dialogue should be terse and informative
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>>156089204
And too do that we need writers to stop being so fucking ///<<<(((californian)))>>>///
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I applied that rubric to the scene in Gameoverse and this is what I came up with.
>"Gobbles, I'm sorry. I should have listened to you."
>Gobbles looks unsure before stepping closer
>"You know, Kit... I haven't known you for very long, but... I feel like I've learned so much about you already."
>Kit wipes her tears and looks up. "W-what do you mean?"
>"I've learned that you're really courageous... kind... and you're so strong and so cool!"
>Kit sighs, exasperated, and even a little frustrated. "Gobbles... not right now."
>Gobbles tries again
>"I don't know what you've been through... but... you've saved a lot of worlds so far, right?" Kit looks back at him, blinking.
>"Gobbles... I'm useless, everyone's going to die because of me."
>Gobbles now looks determined
>"I don't think you are... I'd be dead if you didn't save me."
>Kit looks up
>Gobbles begins to tear up
>"I-I can't thank you enough for that..."
>Kit begins to cry as well, reaching out to hug him. Both of them sitting there breathing for a moment
>"I don't want to lose anyone else."
>Kit begins to giggle, pulling away for a second
>"That's supposed to be my line..."
>Suddenly Gobbles looks down and remembers the map
>"Flappers gave us the name of his arch nemesis, Snappers. He has minibosses!"
>Kit's eyes widen. "If we could figure out where each of them are..."
>"Yeah! We could stop it in time!" Gobbles looks excited.
>Gobbles extends his hand and Kit accepts it.
>"Let's go save this world together!"
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>>156089133
OR
how bout this?
Make the characters mute like Coyote and Roadrunner / Tom and Jerry so they don't talk at all and rely on visual humor?
Avoid all the faggy sad talks by doing that.
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>>156089236
Not all cartoons have to be silent comedy. Just like not every cartoon has to be Steven Universe. Cartoons are mediums to tell stories in. Don't try limiting their potential just because a few shows have done it badly.
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>>156089229
See the difference here? Gobbles comes across as messy and insecure in a way that fits his characterization earlier in the pilot. He doesn't automatically have the perfect answer and doesn't say that nothing Kit did was her fault. He's simply telling Kit what she means to him and what she's done for him. It connects to something that's actually happened to the two of them, which makes it way more effective. It also gives Kit more agency because she fan flat out reject his help at first, or even disagree with what Gobbles says.
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>>156089133
These can be shortened into easy rules
>1. No "love bombing"
>2. Friends are unreliable as emotional rocks
>3. "You matter" hits more than " what can I do to help"
4. Don't wait for a magical "clutch" coming-out moment, allow outing, allow the receiver's inability to open to hurt their friends or support system directly, these types don't realize they're wrong unless they explicitly feel something is their fault
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>>156088965
Just wack the moment
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>>156088996
>>156089017
>>156089133
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>>156089716
Hope Chestnuts puts this fags in his place so you can shut up
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>>156088965
Nothing wrong with "therapy speak", it is a way of resolving conflict non-violently in stories. All live action movies and shows have it. Action films don't, but dramas and telenovelas do.

Don't listen to amateur cartoon critics unless they have worked in the industry to make something. Far too many of them claim that X is bad for not being an action film.
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>>156089908
Nice fanfic
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>>156089908
therapy speak can work the issue is the way these people go about it
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>>156090015
>therapy speak
Not the same
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>>156089908
The problem with "therapy speak" is that it isn't natural dialogue, or how humans actually interact or resolve conflicts with each other or within themselves.
It is an artificial set of buzzwords that come out of the psychiatric community, and if the character isn't from that community then they have no business talking like that.
It's lazy and shows the writer doesn't know how to interact with people outside of a therapy setting.
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>>156089752
He didn't.
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>>156089204
>>156089226
>>156089736
>I'm so cool and manly I hate emotions gaahhhh!!
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>>156090258
Go cry somewhere else, tranny
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>>156090197
He will
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i like episodic cartoons so i dont care bout this
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>>156090274
Thankfully right wingers have no place in the arts lol. You're getting destroyed.
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>>156089752
Hes gonna keep touching hatemonger's dick till the end of times.
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>>156090378
You lost
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>>156090378
The Most retarded quote ever.
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>>156090068
I don't believe it's lazy people, i believe it's because the writer has a severe level of autism that makes him write this way.
Whenever a therapyspeak scene shows up it feels like pic rel.
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>>156091405
YouTube is full of Autistic retards.
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>>156088965
i feel so bad for boys these days
they literally are not allowed to have any hobbies, pics of media, stories or heroes for themselves thansk to trannies and men hating feminist. its just sad
there is a gigantic demand for stories aimed at boys but jews literally will blacklist you if you dare to try to get funding for such a show
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>>156091458
What's your thoughts on space king?
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>>156091458
There's tons of stuff, most of it is just unpopular.
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>>156091458
>>156091997
There's always Anime/Manga.
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OP here. I hope that someone at least got something useful out of this thread.
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>>156092300
There's nothing useful in Therapyslop, anon.
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>>156092321
Get a life
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>>156088965
just have the characters express themselves organically through plot events/situations instead of having a literal 1-1 where they say exactly how they’re feeling with no nuance. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBhR4QcBtE&pp=ygUhZnV0dXJhbWEgdGhhdCBtYWtlcyBtZSBmZWVsIGFuZ3J5&ra=m
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>>156091534
NTA but I only like SK in the meta sense, since it’s a successful politically incorrect cartoon that that doesn’t fit into the general cartoon community at all. As an actual show, it’s whatever
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https://youtu.be/5rg3fo_WFB0?is=40r27E7Q5CtdhfYl
How the pre election tourist film used to handle the "all is lost" moment in the heroes journey
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>>156092373
You lost yours, tranny.
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>>156092479
Fag
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>>156092495
Even Fags hate troons, anon.
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>>156088996
>>156089017
Didn't this used to be called the Magical negro trope?
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The golden rule of emotional writing is to earn it. This is the inherent line between drama and melodrama.
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>>156092790
None of the characters are the latter
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>>156088965
Don't talk as if you've flunked out of psych 101 and read self help books.
Talk as a person having a conversation with another person.
That's it.
You can point out a foible or flaw in another persons actions or personality without comming off as if you are a failed shrink and they are on the couch.
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>>156092832
The are black-coded
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>>156088965
Base your scripts or stories on action and war movies like 1917 instead of gay novela ass shit for teenagers. Put the son of a bitch charging against hundreds of enemies I'm talking about total war/dawn of war battles. I'm not talking about a simple 1v1, I'm talking about 20 vs 300. Let him choose between honor and survival. Let him crawl among the bodies of his victims and friends while he goes for the next weapon to wield. Add goonslop at the end cuz why not?
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ENTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRD_UmFF5sU
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The real issue with "therapy speak" is that is hollow and meaningless.
A panic attack isn't only
>OMG I AM SO SCARED AND I DOUBT MYSELF OMG I CRY I CRY PLEASE TELL ME EVERYTHING IS FINE WAAAH WAAAH
And the only emotional significant moments don't just have to be fucking panic attacks.
Puss'n'Boots, The Last Wish, did the panic attack right because it wasn't about Puss being doubtful about his abilities and skills: he was literally being hunted by Death, figuratively and literally, he was afraid for his life because he always took for granted he was never going to die.
And him getting out of his anxiety wasn't Perrito going "OMG PUSS YOU'RE SO COOL AND STRONG PLS DON'T GIVE UP >///<" it was him reliving his last days, him realizing that taking his lives for granted was childish and to finally man the fuck up and fight rather than be a bitch.

Too many shows nowadays just teach you that you're helpless unless someone else helps you and that it is okay to be weak... it fucking isn't.
Being weak is not okay, it is understandable (not everyone can be perfect at everything and even being average nowadays can be a big ask) but it's not okay, it's not something you should accept: you should try to improve yourself to the point where you are not helpless.
Plus all these panic attacks are so shallow, so forced and it's always about some bullshit like coming out being gay, being a tranny, being a cuck or some other shit, as if there are no more higher goals left in this world that don't directly relate to your dick.
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>>156093132
The Alien Paul did it better.
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>>156091117
"Oh... SELF-HATRED, i didn't know i was into that"
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>>156093001
>Add goonslop at the end cuz why not?
No, retard. Add a romantic interest at the beginning, that's never present but the protagonist keeps reminding us of her as it's his motivation for survival, until the end where they reunite and get a happy ending.
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>>156093132
It really is more a matter of skill issue than of anything inherent. There's zero reason you can't have a good scene with a pep talk. But there's no emotional proportion, no realistic context (i.e. people often respond badly to being patronized), and in this case the talk is so generic that it comes off as recited.

The pilot as a whole does come off like the people who made it were checking off a list of "mandatory" indieslop story beats that get retards' attention and strip away subtext and nuance so they can understand what's happening. The therapy speak doesn't happen because it needs to happen, it happens because it's an indie cartoon and indie cartoons have therapy speak now so shut up and buy a plushie of the MC to cut a hole into.

Whether the actual series tries to have actual writing remains to be seen.

...it involves Egoraptor, so, I wouldn't hold my breath.
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>>156093025
>indie animation movie made by ace combat fans
there is hope is this shithole after all
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>>156088965
>>156088996
I didn’t have a problem with Kinger’s little therapy session.
My problem is that it ended up being 3 therapy sessions per episode after that, which makes each one less impactful.
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bump
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>>156088965
I don’t exactly know why N is included here; the reason he’s freaking out in that scene is because he’s being chased by a planet-eating demon wearing the corpse of his friend. If anything it’s a pretty muted reaction.

Most characters in Murder Drones react to the most horrifying news conceivable with mild discomfort.
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>>156093001
>Write weak, cucky sub-level characters
Nope. I don't watch content with such weak people
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>>156094732
You are weak, worm
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>>156094738
Your "hero" isn't even FTL
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>>156094748
I don’t cares about your bullshit
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>>156094762
>Cope
Yep. Your hero is KEKY rapemeat. Don't consume media where the heroes can't at least destroy the world
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>>156094780
I’ll destroy your face
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>>156088965
I have created a rubric for OP to not post pure autism: are you about to make a thread about something you noticed that everyone gets wrong but that you have unique insights about you think you need to share? Just don't! Easy!
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>>156089017
>>156088996
shower arguments, where someone imagines a scenario where they dominate a conversation while in their shower.

American writing is full of one sided "conversations" and it drives me nuts
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>>156093001
>>156093025
I guess this is what you wanted?
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>>156094785
you won't do shit.
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>>156089204
/Thread
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>>156095102
If a character isn't at least Solar System+ I don't engage with the media.
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>>156090258
You wouldn't know stoicism even if it skullfucked you to the ground
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>>156095115
You are a retard
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>>156095126
>I like weak characters
Thanks for outing yourself as a sissy.
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>>156089226
This. Just look at something like Robin's Reckoning from B:tAS. The their two parter is basically about Robin having a big emotional episode after encountering the person responsible for murdering his parents. Y'know what he doesn't do? Breakdown sobbing about it or need a therapy talk. Instead he just gets himself worked up until he flies off the handle and goes running off to handle his business and eventually blows off enough steam that he calms down. Then when he actually confronts Bruce and has a "heart to heart" with him Bruce just says: "I was being kind of dodgy because I know if the situation was reversed I'd probably fly off the handle and I was worried about losing you." and then they're good. That is far more realistic than any of these therapy moments I've seen in countless media at this point
>>156090258
Yeah the thing that never happens and is very inauthentic is super good writing
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>>156090378
You're going to be really upset when you find out about the Renaissance
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>>156088965
>>156094667
Yeah why the fuck is Murder Drones even here? It doesn't even really do this.
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>>156089133
>>156089017
>>156088996
Good advice
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>>156093001
You're supposed to pay attention to the way people talk in real life but imitate fictional characters
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>>156095138
Stop projecting, fagtard
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>Realistic
This is the wrong word to use. The right words are "allowing suspension of disbelief". Because dialogue in media shouldn't be realistic; you know how much nonsense is in real-life dialogue?
>>156095247
Kind of like he said. Gotta go in on subtext
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>>156095250
>My hero isn't continental
Apologize.
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>>156095012
YUP
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>>156094780
>le shonenbattle mentality is this retarded
kys
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>>156095279
Gtfo
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>>156095398
>>156095405
>>156095279
>Wants strong "non-baby characters" who dont cry
>Loses their mind over someone not wanting "Weak, non-planet destroying characters"
You're all the same btw
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>>156088965
These talks too often resolve conflict when they should rather be the conflict itself

People should say the wrong thing, or put their foot in their mouth. Or they should say the right thing and it still causes issues.

What makes therapy talk so nauseating, beyond the condescension and generally poor writing, is that it comes across like an HR training video
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>>156088965
>N is remembering being torn apart and put together over and over, with a loved one being forced to share the same fate as him, by a sadistic eldritch horror that specifically has it out for him as its favourite pet to torment
>Meanwhile Uzi is trying to resist said eldritch horror's constant, repeating attempts to possess her and wrestle control over her counciousness - with the repeating Callback Pings causing her own heart to start trying to rip its way out of her chest infront of her own eyes
>MEANWHILE said eldritch demon is literally right behind them waiting for them to make a sound so it can rip their hearts out and consume them
>They hold eachother's hand and use eachother as a reason to resist and keep going
Holy fucking shit one of these scenes in OP is not like the others.
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>>156088965
>Indie artists want us to be their therapists.
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remember that ace thruster mogs the powerlevels.
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>step aside, amateurs
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>>156090373
Based
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>>156093025
>by the composer and the writer of project wingman
I'm watching this for that alone
Project Wingman was some exquisite plane drama schizophrenia
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>>156088996
Kinger works for this trope because he's an old man with a lot of experience under his belt. If TADC were good and for adults, Kinger and Queenie would fill the roles of Jax and Ribbit in episode 9 and their falling out would be about the things he talked about during this scene.
>>156089017
This shit sucked though, the villains should've raped Kit while Gobbles watched helpless.
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>>156098089
The final boss of therapyspeak
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>>156090197
Oh that's why he's named that.
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>>156090258
Yes
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>>156090258
>I'm so cool and manly I hate emotions gaahhhh!
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First, you have to define what therapyspeak is irl.
It's a manipulation tactic designed to make one person in an argument seem more like they're arguing from an area of authority, as if their own side is impartial reality, using words that should only be used upon a careful, clinical examination of a situation.

In /co/, therapy speak is similar. In using the show as a therapy session; the writer is both patient and therapist. Thus, the best way to realize this is noticing just how every character turns into this weird sanded down reasonable version of themselves long enough for the big speech to happen.
Sometimes you can work it in naturally by having a character just breakdown to the point of partial shutdown or loss for words, but you'll notice because the other character just turns completely fucking zen.

Either way, the solution is not assuming you're smarter than the audience, so you don't write scenes designed to spell out how you demand they feel about your characters and their situation
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>>156094667
This.
Even when N was distressed over finding out how he had been rebuilt into a disassembly drone, he got over it within seconds. The closest thing to him engaging in therapy speak were brief instances of N trying to reason with V / possessed Uzi / Nori, with some brief 2-3 lines per each.
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>>156088965
>I made a writing rubric to avoid "therapy speak" that everyone seems to hate in modern media now.
Anyone who actually needs this is severely mentally damaged. Possibly beyond repair.
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>>156098089
you been talking about this crap for a week now
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>>156099023
A lot of people seem to since it's permeated a lot of media.
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>>156090258
You don't have real emotions you're not a person you're lower than an animal and shall be treated as such.
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>>156091458
Holy fucking victim complex Batman
There's a shitton of stuff aimed at boys, it's all anime and manga and video games and that's all they need
You're just a giant projecting fag that's just mad this new shit isn't for you. Go watch what you like instead of always looking for a new thing to consoom you cocksucker. You don't care about what boys want, you're just a pussy getting upset over cartoons.
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>>156089017
>>156088996
>>156088965
I don't think you know how to write
Or how emotions work
Or the purpose of this kind of scene
Or what a primer is

Enjoy being mad at a vague trend
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>>156088965
I suggest going back to webcomics.
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>>156089017
If you think this is the problem with that scene you should not be giving writing advice.
That scene has so much wrong with it and none if it is what you said.
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>>156095465
Stfu, retard
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>>156089017
>jobs

I think they wanted to avoid the MC coming and easily overcoming whatever obstacles the villains were throwing at her. It's a matter of preference, some people hate to see this and call it jobbing while others get bored seeing the protagonist being an unstoppable machine.
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ITT chuds mad that art expresses the author's emotions pretend a lack of realism or the expression of helplessness is "bad writing."

Bad writing exists. The Kit scene is terribly written. Not because it's a panic attack and a speech, that's fucking fine. It's a stock second act low point.
The Kit scene is terribly written because the lead up is rushed and out of character for both parties, and it's literally in the wrong place in the runtime of the episode.

If you have a visceral negative reaction to these scenes that is not because of some issue in the writing. It's because of something you should probably go to therapy for.
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That's what you get when you don't have male MCs.
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>>156098682
But i rather the fruit.
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>>156089716
>>156090197
>>156092321
Space King has the opposite problem. All the characters are such retards that I have a hard time caring about the stakes.
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Therapy speak is just specific language, which should be easy enough to avoid.
The issue is the ACTUAL therapy sessions in the shows. The writers are clearly into this saccharine bullshit if they keep doing it in purpose.
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>>156101074
>boys already have plenty of media from a completely different country bro, they don't need to have anything made specifically for them from their country of origin anymore even though that used to be the norm
Also
>video games
lmao
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>>156089017
And then Kit mating pressed her while going on about why Zelda sucks.
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>>156101329
Keep crying, faggot
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>>156091274
Nigger! It's indie there's something for literally everyone! I know multiple indie animated shows that mog all of those creators related. I'm not gonna let you faggots learn about them because you refuse to look for new shit
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>>156101846
>I can't write
Thanks for letting us know
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>>156090258
>CUT YOUR DICK OFF BECAUSE YOU FEEL SAD
No. Consider suicide.
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>>156101875
That’s you, lowly
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>>156101263
>>156101273
Then enlighten me. What did I get wrong? Or is this just the classic
>LOL you're stupid and wrong
Without any sort of elaboration?
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>>156101986
Show me some of your prosework real quick
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>>156102007
You don’t know shit
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>>156101329
Yes, I am a chud.

>the expression of helplessness
It doesn't appeal to me. It is prevalent. I am going to complain about it.
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>>156101869
Cope harder bunilith
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>>156101331
again, ace thruster is the dream we all share.
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>>156090068
>isn't natural dialogue, or how humans actually interact or resolve conflicts with each other or within themselves.
>For some reason people in cartoons and fiction should speak exactly like real life.
It isn't how people socially interact, but it's the only inner dialog that helps us resolve our deeper problems and in fiction important to understanding inner depth.
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>>156089204
So they should all be screaming neanderthal retards like you?
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>>156103413
You are both
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>>156088965
This seems related to what you're discussing, OP. Might want to check it out.

https://youtu.be/WwhuZ6W1tYE?&t=327
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>>156088965
You put so much thought and effort into this. Yet its on a website filled with trolls where the post is going to disapear in about most 3 days.

If you were to put it on reddit, youtube, or your own blog it would be up potentially forever.

I just don't understand why you would put so much effort into something so fleeting.
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>>156103499
>never put effort into anything, life is fleeting, just be an irony poisoned redditor like me who hates sincerity
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>>156103528
But you don't anything sincere. You want keydangling slop to clap your hands to and absolutely hate anything that steers you away from that for even a single second.
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>>156103450
>NO U!
Great counterargument.
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>>156103933
Nice delusions
>>156103946
It's what you deserve
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>>156088965
I know how it feels like to not be funny. To have all of your work be forgotten memories.
I was… Adam Sandler
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>>156088996
>>156089017
These are literally just anime tropes that aren't done well because in anime the animation and story can handle drama, gravitas and serious topics while western cartoons are sloppy slapstick shit where the same type of anime speeches don't make any sense, like hearing Bluey try to give an emotional monologue from some shonen or something.
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>>156103984
>like hearing Bluey try to give an emotional monologue from some shonen or something.
Miscarriage is canon in Bluey
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>>156089736
>>156088965
So why don't you just go watch Teen Titans Go or new spongebob reruns then? You won't find any therapyspeak, you can even ask your mommy for a blanket and juicebox while you clap whenever they make fart noises. Nothing requiring your already bare-minimum cognitive capacity.
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>>156104010
But do they have a speech about it?
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>>156104022
Triggered chick.
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>>156103528
I gave you three options. One of them was reddit which you don't like. You ignored the other 2 and fished for an arguement.

I am suggesting you preserve what you put effort into. But forget, this is my last reply.
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>>156103953
You want validation for your entitlement and critiques about getting less entitlement but cannot handle when others point out how daft and pathetic it makes you look, because are a child mentally.
Fuck off.
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>>156104034
Worse.

"The Show" (Season 2, Episode 25): Bluey and Bingo put on a backyard play for their parents mimicking how Chilli and Bandit met and grew their family.
• The Balloon Pop: Bingo places a balloon under her shirt to simulate being pregnant, but it suddenly pops.
• The Parents' Reaction: While Bluey initially plays for laughs, Chilli looks visibly heartbroken and despondent, and Bandit gently reaches out to hold her hand in comfort.
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>>156103953
>Gets proven retarded
>the world deserves my retardation!
Gross
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>>156104022
Funny that therapy speak dialogue is derided so much because it's such a shallow, surface level, telling and not showing way of solving an internal conflict and you're over here acting like it's deeply intellectual writing. You must be a Steven Universe fan.
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>>156088996
>One thing you immediately notice in many of these scenes are that one person will completely dominate the conversation and effectively infantlize the person that's receiving the talk.

I do that too much. Maybe not the infantilization part but where one side yaps the other side just asks questions to propel their monolgue.
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Just put the therapyspeak into a fight scene where the characters are beating the shit out of each other.
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>>156103984
>These are literally just anime tropes
Are they? In your standard talk no jutsu, Naruto isn't telling his enemies "You're seen, you're heard, you're valid. I'm here for you, king." He's affirming his convictions in the face of theirs and telling them they're wrong and he's right. It's nowhere near the same thing. Or do you have different example in mind?
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>>156104071
Sure
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Main problem is... why should I care?
At least wait til 7 ep in to put this in. Even if the scene was good I don't care enough about them yet
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>>156104055
That's you
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>>156104108
>You must be a Steven Universe fan.
You must love how your reference pool for animation is so shallow you can probably only name or think of a few handful of cartoons you even care about, so you imagine others are confined to the same 5 shows that cause you to mald and give panic attacks in the form of these shitthreads.

>>156104316
That's literally what he tells Pain to talk-no-jutsu him and convert his entire ideology in one speech. "I hear and see you bro, I feel you're pain n shite."

Only it was dumb there because it actually works, but whatever.
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>>156104316
Lmao this nigga never watched a single episode of Naruto
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>>156104353
>PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME I AM VERY WACKY

Geez fuck off and play roblox already 4toddler.
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>>156104376
Sorry, you can't accept the truth
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>>156104389
Nice meltie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWH8nU7Vlc

GAAAAAAAAAAH why is Naruto giving therapy lessons?!?! Bros I'm literally shaking rn did Kishi invent panic attacks and therapy speeches?
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>>156104418
Don't deflect glitchcuck
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>>156104418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPrwl7G6RBs

FUCK FUCK FUCK BLEACH IS DOING IT TOO WHERE DOES IT STOP?
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>>156104441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARkRWvqZ5sg

EVEN ONE PIECE THERAPY EPS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE WORLD WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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Guys I'm literally breaking down shaking and crying why did the trannies put therapy talks in dbz even vegeta gets one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6mXU4rJ24U
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74razKdmaW0

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HOW DO WE STOP THE THERAPY SHIT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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>>156104501
>>156104451
>>156104441
>>156104418
>Crashing out this hard and ran out of shit after the first clip
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>>156104553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjRDjZDQbR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EoYLgasmfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH9c7X3-Crc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrBvf3XMEKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrvoQqyvRKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za4mN7YL1fA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVpi1wTKMEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w59RO2Q1g_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWhQdt-FafY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PzumWUyKiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18foq__Yut0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7TQcQUfGUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ415T113Bw

MY GOD THERE'S SO MUCH FUCKING THERAPYSPEECH IN ANIME I'M SICK OF IT SICK OF IT I HATE IT WHY SO MUCH SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PUNCH SOMETHING BE COOL TALKING AND FEELING AREN'T COOL I HATE BIG WORDS I WANT SOMETHING NORMAL SO HURRY UP WITH THE FIGHTING
DAMN IT STOP TALKING! I'M SICK OF IT SICK OF IT SICK OF IT SICK OF IT SICK OF IT SICK OF IT SICK OF IT SICK OF IT SICK OF IT SICK OF IT SICK OF IT SICK OF IT!

HOW ARE THESE WORDS STILL COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS WHY DON'T YOU JUST STOP FUCKING INVADING MEDIA EVERYWHERE WITH FEELINGS AND THERAPY ALREADY
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>>156104674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBve-mC2SJI

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PANIC ATTACKS IT'S SO JOEVER AGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRR THERAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPY
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holy shit
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>>156104708
>this is what chuds actually think modern cartoons are
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>>156088996
>One thing you immediately notice in many of these scenes are that one person will completely dominate the conversation and effectively infantlize the person that's receiving the talk.
Doctor Who syndtome. The Doctor makes moralizing multi-paragraph speech while everyone stands and listens to his nonsense.
In other words, the combination of smartass sue and show don't tell.
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>>156104726
Sneed
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>>156104418
>>156104441
>>156104451
>>156104674
Blud finna be crashing out RN, fr fr.
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>>156101450
It's a comedy about literal manchildren fighting a war like it's a playground game. If you are worried about "stakes" you are missing the point.
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>>156105045
teehee
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>>156105045
You could say he's suffering a panic attack.
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>>156092431
As another random anon I want to second this. SK isn't my style, but I'm glad cartoons exist that are this out of style.
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>>156102041
Everyone knows your antics.
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>>156105358
Comedy shows have stakes too.
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>>156101278
Gtfo, newfag.
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>>156101278
>Seethe
Yep. Offboarding newfag
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>>156095250
Stop deflecting, newsperg.
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>>156103953
Of course you are, son of disappoint.
>>156101846
Keep being gay, sperg.
>>156095126
And you're a newfag.
>>156094738
You are worthless, twerp.
>>156094762
Cared enough to reply
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